Bethesda ‘pushing’ Microsoft on playing Elder Scrolls Online without Xbox Live Gold subscription

Tuesday, 27th August 2013 13:05 GMT By Dave Cook

The Elder Scrolls Online will use a subscription model, much the the bafflement of those firmly behind free-to-play models, and Bethesda’s marketing boss Peter Hines has confirmed the company is pushing Microsoft about removing the Xbox Live Gold requirement for those who want to just play the MMO on Xbox One.

Speaking with OXM, Hines said of the matter, “We feel like most people such as yourself currently pay that subscription not to pay a game, but to play all games online. So in that sense, when I’m playing Call of Duty online I don’t feel like I’m paying my monthly Xbox Live sub for Call of Duty – I’m just paying it because that’s a thing that I do, and whatever game I’m playing at the time is the one that benefits.

He continued, “Having said that, we have been in talks with Microsoft about that very thing, and seeing whether or not there’s any room to change their minds about that, for folks who are only paying The Elder Scrolls Online and don’t want to pay for an Xbox Live Gold subscription, just to pay the Elder Scrolls Online.

“The answer right now is that’s the way it works, but it’s something that we’re aware of and we keep pushing on, to see if there’s something that can be done. We’ll let you know if there’s movement there.”

Currently, it will cost $14.99/£8.99 a month to play The Elder Scrolls Online per month, as well as an Xbox Live Gold or PS Plus subscription fee for those looking to play on Xbox One and PS4 respectively.

Would you like to see Microsoft remove the mandatory Xbox Live Gold fee for those looking to play TESO?

Let us know below.



  1. Pytox

    lol MS won’t bend over for this one …

    #1 1 year ago
  2. Zeronohero

    I don’t know why it says that at the end. You don’t need a plus subscription to play this game on ps4 o.O

    #2 1 year ago
  3. Dave Cook

    @2 PS Plus is mandatory for anyone looking to play PS4 online, like Xbox Live Gold at present.

    #3 1 year ago
  4. Lengendaryboss

    Your thinking of this:

    #4 1 year ago
  5. RoboJesus

    @3 Plus is not mandatory for playing all games (F2P like PlanetSide 2 can be played without PS+), so it might not be mandatory for games that require monthly subscription.

    #5 1 year ago
  6. Lengendaryboss

    Anyway Dual subscriptions i’m seeing i’ll only be paying for one, no more no less.

    #6 1 year ago
  7. Dave Cook

    @5 Well…obviously not for free games. I thought that much was obvious.

    #7 1 year ago
  8. Lengendaryboss

    Stealth Edit! Like a Ninja!

    #8 1 year ago
  9. Bashtee

    @7 Are you sure about MMOs being behind a paywall? There is a ton of stuff that’s not behind the paywall, like netflix and cross-gamechat.

    #9 1 year ago
  10. DSB

    I don’t see any way that this could end up being worth a sub.

    #10 1 year ago
  11. SplatteredHouse

    I don’t see bethsoft being very successful at getting them to concede. As soon as they make that exception, they’ll have lit the touchpaper on pressure to widen their new policy, if not from developers themselves then, from players who feel their game of preference deserves the same treatment.

    #11 1 year ago
  12. bradk825

    On the one hand it sounds fair enough to offer the option of just paying the one subscription if they don’t want to pay for gold.

    On the other if they open the door for that, it could lead to more studios doing sub-based games on console, which is a trend I don’t really want to see. I was excited for ESO until I found out there is a subscription for it, now I won’t be getting it.

    #12 1 year ago
  13. onlineatron

    @9 @5 wording’s strange here, but kinda reads like shue is saying it will be up to publishers whether they put their mmos behind a paywall. stands to reason bethesda will opt not to.

    could be out of context, though. might refer to f2p stuff only.

    #13 1 year ago
  14. ps3fanboy

    oh god i hope micro$haft bend over for this one, that would be hilarious if it happens :D

    #14 1 year ago
  15. actuallyisnotafox

    then again ps plus is forever one and its significantly cheaper, you basically need gold to anything, so :/

    #15 1 year ago
  16. Max Payne

    Considering this is always online game and you need to buy it first, there is no reason that MS would allow it.

    #16 1 year ago
  17. illuminatusv

    No matter what, I will not pay subscription for a ES game after played Dark Souls / demon Souls anyway. Bethesda need to overhaul completely their combat systems before I will even think about playing this.

    #17 1 year ago
  18. pezzulca

    Let me get this straight. For Xbox one, you need to buy the game ($60), have a valid Xbox gold account (about $60 a year) AND pay the monthly fee ($15)? If so, no play for me.

    #18 1 year ago
  19. Tavarish

    @18 Same goes for PS 4 currently when it comes to ESO so… PC Master Race?

    #19 1 year ago
  20. VibraniumSpork

    I’d have thought that the subscription fee for the MMO includes payments towards the upkeep of Bethesda’s dedicated servers, no? If so, it seems cheeky to have to pay MS extra for theirs when you may very well not use them at all. Same goes for Sony really.

    Having said that, surely we all know how this’ll go: MS say “No” – Interwebs cry foul – MS say “Yes”. Simples. ^_^

    #20 1 year ago
  21. Cobra951

    @18: Boggles the mind, doesn’t it? A lot of people will pay it too. I just won’t be one of them.

    #21 1 year ago
  22. Unknown_Gamer

    @Tavarish Read the Fxxxen comments , stop being shaded from that .

    #22 1 year ago
  23. Lv01

    what does any of this matter?

    im assuming that MOST people that play TESO on xbox one or PS4 will also be buying and playing other games?
    and they will more than likely be playing those games online? (with all of these persistently online gaming worlds, how can they not?!)

    u will still need to buy your Xbox live gold sub or your PS+ sub ANYWAY.

    the choice is, do you want to play this MMO (and others, like FFXIV) or not? if you do, you need to pay their sub.

    i dont think this matters all too much, bethesda…

    #23 1 year ago
  24. Muetsch

    Just to throw it out there:

    Final Fantasy XI doesn’t require Xbox Live Gold. So it’s really not that unlikely that this will be any different

    #24 1 year ago
  25. DigiMatt

    Or Bethesda could, you know, drop subs. After all, they are still pissing us with a cash shop.I wouldn’t mind a sub for a great game, but no shop. Want that awesome mount or epic piece of gear, etc.? Earn it. You should look like a seasoned veteran by being a seasoned veteran. Too many companies pining to casuals who want to play dress up.

    But, back to the topic at hand. Bethesda could at least drop subs for Xbox and PS4. After all, we all know its a console game, because they’re further fudging PC gamers.

    #25 1 year ago
  26. Riseer

    @23 Well you can still play all the F2P games w/o PS plus.MS needs to get with times and let these F2P games be well….FREE

    #26 1 year ago
  27. KTF26

    you will pay money for psn plus to play online games on PS4
    i will play the division on my PC with out extra fee
    poor fanboy

    Edit: That comment has been deleted

    #27 1 year ago
  28. frylock539

    First if all, ESO shouldn’t even have a monthly subscription, even on the PC! Now, if microsoft doesn’t back down, they will be expecting people to pay $20 dollars a month to play ESO on a console. That’s f*cking ridiculous. If ESO insists on having a monthly subscription, then they should at least remove the subscription from consoles.

    Please tell me im not the only one thinking this…

    #28 1 year ago
  29. madamillion

    I seen videos of the game and it’s not wroth it ya I want the game but not to pay for both xbox live and a subscription it’s not happening I rather buy the game to look at

    #29 8 months ago

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