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Minecraft Oculus Rift deal cancelled because Facebook creeps Notch out

Tuesday, 25 March 2014 22:43 GMT By Brenna Hillier

Minecraft creator Markus “Notch” Persson has cancelled plans to implement Oculus Rift support, following Facebook’s acquisition of the virtual reality headset manufacturer.

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“We were in talks about maybe bringing a version of Minecraft to Oculus. I just cancelled that deal,” Persson wrote on Twitter.

“Facebook creeps me out.”

There is a Minecraft mod that supports the tech, Persson added.

In a lengthy update on his personal blog, Persson elaborated on his disappointment in the acquisition, saying VR is going to change the world, and that he was greatly impressed by a recent visit to Oculus HQ,

“What I saw was every bit as impressive as you could imagine. They had fixed all the major issues, and all that remained was huge design and software implementation challenges. As someone who always felt like they were born five or ten years too late, I felt like we were on the cusp of a new paradigm that I might be able to play around with,” he said.

“I could be part of the early efforts to work out best practices, and while I have no doubt that in ten years we’ll look back at the problems with early VR applications in the same we look back at GUI problems with early PC games, it still felt exciting to me.”

Mojang wanted Minecraft oin the system, which wouldn’t really work with Oculus, so Persson suggested a free, stripped-down version similar to Minecraft PI Edition. Both companies began sorting out the details.

“And then, not two weeks later, Facebook buys them,” persson said.

“Facebook is not a company of grass-roots tech enthusiasts. Facebook is not a game tech company. Facebook has a history of caring about building user numbers, and nothing but building user numbers. People have made games for Facebook platforms before, and while it worked great for a while, they were stuck in a very unfortunate position when Facebook eventually changed the platform to better fit the social experience they were trying to build.”

Persson said he believes VR can do great things with social – but he doesn’t want to work with social, he wants to work with games, and as such he will be looking to oculus Rift’s competitors – at Valve and Sony, among others.

“I definitely want to be a part of VR, but I will not work with Facebook. Their motives are too unclear and shifting, and they haven’t historically been a stable platform. There’s nothing about their history that makes me trust them, and that makes them seem creepy to me,” he said,

“And I did not chip in ten grand to seed a first investment round to build value for a Facebook acquisition. I have the greatest respect for the talented engineers and developers at Oculus. It’s been a long time since I met a more dedicated and talented group of people. I understand this is purely a business deal, and I’d like to congratulate both Facebook and the Oculus owners. But this is where we part ways.”

Facebook announced its $2 billion acquisition of Oculus Rift today. Reaction has been mixed; on the one hand, it’s great that Oculus will have access to significant financial resources and Facebook’s user base. On the other, John Carmack now works for Facebook, which is a world we never envisioned.

Minecraft could have been a major coup for Oculus, as it has 100 million registered users and has sold over 35 million copies.

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17 Comments

  1. Fin

    Facebook creeps him out, but Twitter is a-ok.

    #1 1 year ago
  2. salarta

    Didn’t see this until after. The majority opinion I’ve seen so far is businesspeople (as in, people that mostly don’t care about video games) saying it was a smart move by Facebook in trying to break into an emerging market after failing to succeed with mobile games, while most people that would have ever actually used the Oculus Rift are either already dropping all support or trying to convince themselves it just might work out.

    And when I say “convince themselves,” I mean they just about always say something like “… well, I know it’s Facebook and that really limits it, but at least Oculus Rift will get more money behind it?”

    Luckey just killed the Oculus Rift, and it’s pretty obvious what the motive really was. The generic, robotic PR speak makes that very clear.

    @Fin Facebook has a long, long list of things wrong with it that Twitter does not share: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Facebook.

    #2 1 year ago
  3. Hyperx64

    As long as Oculus VR remains autonomous, than continuous funding from Facebook is a good thing. Facebook ain’t going anywhere, and John Carmack did not come down in the last shower.

    $2 Billion dollars ain’t nothing too sniff at, either.

    #3 1 year ago
  4. Hyperx64

    A positive headline; “Kickstarter company now worth $2 Billion dollars.”

    #4 1 year ago
  5. Hyperx64

    @Hyperx64 Wrong Tab :P

    #5 1 year ago
  6. Dragon

    So, he was probably making a Rift version for little money in compensation.
    Makes sense to back out now, and then come back when a big fat check arrives at your doorstep :lol:

    #6 1 year ago
  7. Tr0n

    @Fin There’s a pretty big difference between FB and Twitter. Look it up. :)

    #7 1 year ago
  8. Fin

    That wikipedia article is the most circlejerk bullshit I’ve seen on there in a long time.

    Nobody’s been able to articulate why this is a bad deal, other than “i hate fb”.

    #8 1 year ago
  9. IceLemming

    I hate Facebook. And I was a kickstarter backer.
    Looking forward to Sony VR.

    #9 1 year ago
  10. silkvg247

    I don’t know why Notch just started an anti FB war. I don’t really use FB, I have no love or hate for it but I can see its purpose. I think if the money can accelerate the tech then it’s good for everyone. I doubt FB will stomp out the tech being used for games or anything.

    Quite an ignorant move by Notch tbh.

    #10 1 year ago
  11. Kreion

    @Fin

    If you’d read the damn article you’d know.

    Facebook is not a company with the interests of Gamers at their heart – Facebook games are shit. Now they are in control of something which core gamers were very much looking forward to as a new way to experience their games – huzzah. We have no reason to trust Facebook to not screw everyone over here by making it into a social media thing. But 90% of gamers don’t WANT social media in their games they are two distinctly different thing which most people thing should remain separate.

    And now we come to today, when social media buys out a potential advancement in gaming. Why should anyone be happy about that other than Facebook and Occulus rift? Occulus Rift will not remain in control of the project – at the end of the day now Facebook has the final say in everything – a company whose main gaming product is the advancement of pay to win.

    This is why most people think this was a bad move.

    #11 1 year ago
  12. Michael Ireland

    This thread is pretty much exactly what I expected to happen – people will end up blaming Facebook for the future failure of the tech instead of the tech’s own failures and limitations.

    #12 1 year ago
  13. piss4sucks

    ^ bleh bleh bleh shut up the only reason vr would fail is because its on pc if it was on xbox it would be massive and everyone would have one but pc is shit and only has like 6 customers who would be virgins anyway

    minecraft is good on xbox but is pretty shit on pc so i wouldnt be surprised if he has cancelled it for pc but then is still going to put it on xbox even he knows pc is the shittiest gaming place

    #13 1 year ago
  14. Fin

    @Kreion

    Facebook don’t make games. Saying Facebook games are shit is like saying iOS/Android/Sony/MS/PC games are shit. They’re a platform, not a developer (PROTIP: Oculus is a platform, not a developer too!).
    Er, why do we have a reason not to trust Facebook? Have they destroyed an acquisition before? Have they cancelled games? Do you have stats to back up “90% of gamers don’t WANT social media in their games”? What about “Occulus Rift will not remain in control of the project”?

    #14 1 year ago
  15. dorjenks

    @Fin Actually, Microsoft and Sony ARE developers too.

    #15 1 year ago
  16. TheWulf

    Pretty much what salarta said. Though I feel the Oculus Rift people got sheistered and they’re just trying to save face.

    It’s a sad day, really. Another promising venture owned by a faceless corporate enterprise. And Zucker is as identity-less as they come, but hey, with Facebook he can pick any number of identities!

    #reasonswhyfacebookiscreepy

    But, yeah, Twitter has actually been pretty ethical compared to the horrors of Facebook.

    #16 1 year ago
  17. TheWulf

    @6

    That doesn’t sound anything like what Notch would do, but it does sound like something a jealous Notch detractor would claim of him!

    Why do people despise the small, successful, ethical ones so much and fap all over the faceless, unethical, horror-laden corporate bodies? One continues to wonder. But hey, it doesn’t have anything do do with brand tribalism and social conditioning, right? Right? (Hint: That was sarcasm! Of course it does.)

    (I think I’ve been watching too much Stuart Ashen, I’m starting to pick up his sense of humour.)

    #17 1 year ago

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    Blizzard has announced the WoW Arena World Championship will culminate at BlizzCon 2015. World of Warcraft 3v3 Arena teams from around the globe will compete for spot at the 2015 WoW Arena World Championship and for a share in the $250,000 prize pool. Online qualifiers will be held for North America, Southeast Asia, Australia, New […]

  • The Crew two-hour demo now available in US, tomorrow in the UK

    Ubisoft has announced a free trial of its driving MMO The Crew will be available tomorrow, March 25 in the UK. It’s live today in North America. For current players, the Vintage Car Pack and Vintage Live Update, including a new PvP mode, are now available. The Vintage Car Pack included the Chevrolet Corvette C2 […]

  • Minecraft Mass Effect Mash-Up and Pattern Texture Pack out from today

    A Mass Effect Mash-up pack and the Pattern Texture Pack will release on PlayStation 3, PS4 and Vita today in North America and tomorrow in Europe. The Pattern Texture Pack is also available for Xbox consoles today. The Mass Effect Mash-Up pack contains the Mars Facility from Mass Effect 3 plus textures and craftable items […]

  • The Talos Principle expansion pack Road to Gehenna announced

    An expansion for The Talos Principle has been announced titled Road to Gehenna. The expansion follows the narrative of Uriel, Elohim’s messenger, as he explores a “strange, hidden part of the simulation” on a mission of “mercy and redemption.” Uriel is attempting to free the souls of the damned “at all costs.” Road to Gehenna […]

  • Twitch Plays Pokemon finally catches ‘em all – even the rare Mewtwo

    Twitch Plays Pokemon players have captured all 151 original Pokemon which were included in a modified version of Pokemon Red, and this includes the rare Mewtwo. It took 39 days for Twitch players to catch ‘em all. Have a look at the impressive feat for yourself below. Thanks, Polygon.

  • GameStop will have limited units of Majora’s Mask New 3DS XL back in stock

    Those who missed out on the Limited Edition Majora’s Mask New 3DS XL will have another opportunity to purchase it outside of eBay. Tomorrow only, GameStop stores in the United States will have four units in stock, according to and internal memo sent to Kotaku. This is every store in the country, and again, only […]

  • Second phase of Fortnite closed Alpha launches today

    Fortnite’s second closed Alpha test will go live this afternoon, according to the official website. Those currently participating will have until April 14 to test the online aspects for 12 hours per day (noon -12am EDT). All progress from the previous Alpha test will be wiped, and other changes are listed in the patch notes. […]

  • Dragon Age: Inquisition: Jaws of Hakkon out now on PC, Xbox One

    As promised yesterday, the single-player DLC for Dragon Age: Inquisition, Jaws of Hakkon, is now available on PC and Xbox One. It will run you or £11.99 or your regional equivalent. The new content expands the land of Thedas with mountainous regions and forests, and it is full of “vicious enemies.” Players will also be […]

  • Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare trailer shows Ascendance gameplay

    Activision has released a new gamepay trailer for Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare to support the Ascendance DLC which releases next week. Ascendance, will release first on Xbox consoles March 31 and includes the next chapter of the Exo Zombies Saga, Infected, along with four new multiplayer maps: Perplex, Site 244, Climate and Chop Shop. […]

  • Batman: Arkham Knight will be a digital only release on PC – report

    It appears Batman: Arkham Knight will not see a physical release on PC, according to ShopTo. The retailer was told by its buyer the Rocksteady game will only be released on PC in digital form. ShopTo is currently double checking the information. If accurate, it is unknown if this will be case in North America […]

  • Bloodborne patch focusing on load times, performance optimizations in the works

    A patch for Bloodborne which will address load times is in the works, Sony has said The load times were one of the issues noted in Digital Foundry’s report on the From Software title. Sony told Eurogamer the patch would also explore other issues as well. “The development team is currently exploring another patch for […]

  • Gearbox would “love” to have entire Borderlands collection on current-gen

    An Xbox One and PlayStation 4 version of the original Borderlands game is something Gearbox Software is interested in, according to studio boss Randy Pitchford. Speaking in the latest Major Nelson podcast, Gearbox CEO Randy Pitchford said should Borderlands: The Handsome Collection prove successful, 2K Games might consider a current-gen version. “The fact that The […]

  • Wolfenstein: The Old Blood artwork shows the catacombs, dock, more

    Over the weekend we posted Wolfenstein: The Old Blood artwork along with news of a retail release in Europe. Today, we have better quality images of said artwork to share with you. Enjoy. The standalone prequel will be released digitally on May 5 on PC, PS4 and Xbox One in North America, and digitally on […]

  • Slender: The Arrival terrorizes PS4 and Xbox One this week

    In case you forgot, what with Bloodborne out today and other high profile releases of late, Slender: The Arrival is out today on PlayStation 4 in North America. The scary game will arrive on Xbox One tomorrow, March 25, and in Europe on PS4. Slender: The Arrival is an expansion on the original Slender game […]

  • World of Warcraft’s WoW Token rollout slated after launch of patch 6.1.2

    Blizzard has announced it will start rollout its WoW Token option in the weeks following the launch of patch 6.1.2 on March 24. WoW Token allows players to exchange in-game gold for game time and vice versa. Blizzard will release WoW Token first in realms serving North America, Oceania, and Latin America and will expand […]

  • The Evil Within: The Consequence dated for April, teaser video released

    Part 2 of Juli Kidman’s adventure in The Evil Within will arrive next month with the release of The Consequence. Above is a brief teaser showing some of the “madness” Kidman will encounter. The Consequence will arrive on Tuesday, April 21 on PC, PlayStation 3, PS4, Xbox 360 and Xbox One. European PlayStation players will […]

  • Bloodborne sometimes “struggles to run at a smooth frame-rate” per performance analysis

    Bloodborne has been analyzed by Digital Foundry and according to the report, even with a 30fps cap the game sometimes “struggles to run at a smooth frame-rate.” The game’s day-one 2.69GB update 1.01 is “essential” as it contains improvements to game performance and stability and the frame-rate tests run by Digital Foundry were in single-player […]

  • Borderlands: The Handsome Collection reviews round-up

    Borderlands: The Handsome Collection reviews are out in the wild so we decided to catch a few of them for you. Borderlands: The Handsome Collection is out today on PlayStation 4 and Xbox One. The collection packages Borderlands 2 and Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel along with each game’s DLC content on one disc. Better graphics and […]

  • Evolve, Forza Horizon 2, WWE 2K15 are this week’s Deals with Gold

    Evolve, Forza 2 Horizon and WWE 2K15 are just some of the games which are part of this week’s Xbox Deals with Gold. You can also pick up the Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare Pro Edition for 20% off as well as the standard edition for 33% off. For the Xbox 360 crowd, there’s also […]

  • Xbox 360 2015 Spring Value bundles now available starting at $250

    Microsoft is offering a discount on three Xbox 360 bundles with prices starting at $250. The Xbox 360 2015 Spring Value bundles feature various content such as a Kinect, 500GB console bundle and one month of Xbox Live Gold. Xbox 360 500GB Spring Value Bundle: comes with Plants vs. Zombies Garden Warfare download and Fable […]

  • Rainbow Six Siege beta sign ups now open

    Ubisoft is letting everyone register for the upcoming Rainbow Six Siege closed beta. Rainbow Six Siege is due for a closed beta sometime this year. Ubisoft has opened registration to everyone. All you need to do is enter your preferred platform and log in using your Uplay account. You will be entered into a waiting […]

  • Advanced Warfare: Exo Zombies map Infection is creepy

    The upcoming chapter in Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare’s Exo Zombies mode is called ‘Infection’ and Activision has been slowly revealing bits and pieces about it. A few teasers have been dropping ahead of Ascendance launch this month. The teasers are about the second episode in the Exo Zombie story, Infection. First off, the map. […]

  • This is the Bloodborne press kit in all its glory

    Bloodborne is a gorgeous game so it’s only fitting that the press kit it came in is a reflection of that. The pictures capture the many amazing bits of the Bloodborne press kit. A press kit is what’s usually sent to the reviewers alongside the review copy. They’re usually very ornate and almost all of […]

  • This Hearthstone turn is taking over 40 hours and you can watch it happen

    A very smart Hearthstone player has rigged his game to make one turn take over 40 hours, and it has been going for over 22 already. Hearthstone player Mamytwink set up a game against his friend to try and achieve the record for the longest turn in Hearthstone ever. Basically, Mamytwink set the game up […]

  • The Witcher 3: Geralt’s beard grows over time, but not Gandalf-long

    The beard of The Witcher 3 protagonist Geralt will grow over time, but you can trim it if you choose to. As part of a recently published impressions piece by German magazine Gamestar (translated by NeoGAF), The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt developers revealed that Geralt’s beard will in fact grow over time. Not content with […]

  • Sony mistakenly abandons Bloodborne trademark in the US

    The administration side of Sony Computer Entertainment has not been in the best of shapes recently. Sony has abandoned four game trademarks yesterday, one of which is for Bloodborne. The trademarks were all registered with US Patent and Trademark Office. All of the games trademarks pertain to unreleased games and Sony would’ve had to either […]

  • Payday 2 will be supported until 2017

    Payday 2 developer has announced that it will continue to support the game for the next two years. Payday 2 developer Overkill has revealed today that it’s planning to support the game until 2017. What this means is that more free content as well as paid DLC are in the works for release later. Payday […]

  • These are the top Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare weapons, according to the developer

    Based on their overall kill-to-death ratio, what are the best guns in Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare? Developer Sledgehammer reveals the top 5. Sledgehammer’s Michael Condrey has revealed on Twitter the top 5 weapons in Advanced Warfare based on their overall kill-to-death ratio. Here’s the list: ARX-160 – Hole Puncher Ameli – Heavy HBRa3 – […]

  • H1Z1 has sold more than 1 million copies

    H1Z1 has already sold over 1 million copies on Steam. H1Z1 may still be in Early Access on Steam, but it has already sold more than 1 million copies. Daybreak president John Smedley announced on Twitter earlier. H1Z1 launched in January and instantly became a hit. The game has consistently been on Steam’s top 10 […]