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Kaos basically forced to use North Korea as antagonist in Homefront, says former employee

Friday, 6th July 2012 15:50 GMT By Stephany Nunneley

Former members of Kaos Studios have opened up to Gamasutra regarding what went wrong at the studio, and the reasons behind the closure of the Homefront studio.

According to a source of the studio which didn’t wish to be named, stating that despite the creative input of former core boss Danny Bilson, the studio “didn’t exactly deliver.”

“[Bilson] got very involved during the middle of our production. I really can’t slam the guy… He gave us a great opportunity and all the resources to accomplish it. We didn’t exactly deliver,” said the source.

The only decision the studio wasn’t too keen on was making North Korea the antagonist in Homefront, when originally, the team wanted the invaders to be China.

However, THQ was worried over the potential conflict which might have occurred to its business in China. The result, according to the source, was a “demoralizing” atmosphere over being forced to use North Korea.

Employees said Bilson did a good job helping Kaos with the game’s story and creating hype, but he lacked experience with gaming mechanics, which frustrated the design team.

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  1. DSB

    It just get’s dumber and dumber.

    It’s stupid enough to use North Korea in the first place, it’s ten times more stupid to force them to use it.

    #1 2 years ago
  2. mickey2002

    I wonder about HF2 with crytek doing it :/

    #2 2 years ago
  3. absolutezero

    I like how no one gives a shit about the Russian audience.

    #3 2 years ago
  4. OrbitMonkey

    China would have been a good antagonist… But business is business I guess. Though they could have bought out a Chinese friendly version where you play as a Chinese stormtrooper invading the USA… Would have been fun :-D

    #4 2 years ago
  5. pukem0n

    just use the russians, they dont fucking care if they are being portraied as the bad guy :D

    #5 2 years ago
  6. DSB

    Do Russians really give a shit about anything? They’re basically skullfucking dead Syrian children at the moment.

    #6 2 years ago
  7. absolutezero

    I don’t think Russians™ really have a say in that. Much like us plebs in the UK never had a say in going to war with Iraq.

    #7 2 years ago
  8. Erthazus

    I still think NK is a good idea just for variety. Crytek did it brilliantly in Crysis 1 so no wonder why they are developing a sequel to Homefront 1. Koreans will be there probably.

    @6,7 Yes, they care and what Russians have to do with dead Syrian children?

    #8 2 years ago
  9. DSB

    @7 Well, that’s kinda the point. Why would they have a say in invading America?

    @8 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-18642032

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/05/world/middleeast/syria-homs-death-toll-said-to-rise.html?pagewanted=all

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-18462813

    #9 2 years ago
  10. Dragon246

    North Korea was the probably the best choice, the only country in the world whose government has no redeeming features whatsoever.

    #10 2 years ago
  11. The_Red

    @9
    Wow man, I’m speechless. This is going off topic but my god, FUCK Russian and Chinese goverments . This is outright giving a license to kill to that Syrian butcher. It’s both sad and funny how Middle East is filled with violent dictators like him and any international action can be veto’d by a couple of Communist countries (I know USSR fell and Russia isn’t communist anymore officially but still).

    #11 2 years ago
  12. DSB

    @10 I guess that depends on what you mean by best, but ultimately they picked a country that will never in a million years be able to even sail troops to America, let alone invade.

    They might as well have picked Cuba.

    Cuba rises to prominence as Fidel Castro dies and is succeeded by the radical reformer Gustavo Bonanza, uniting Venezuela, Colombia, Peru, Paraguay and Bolivia under his rule, ultimately forcing Brazil to agree to annexation, and launching a war through Central America to Mexico, which is when the US becomes engaged, and that’s when they reveal their secret Superman weapons which suddenly makes half the population of the US unable to hold a gun and defend themselves.

    It would still be a lousy and impossible scenario, but at least they’d be able to reach the beach :P

    #12 2 years ago
  13. Erthazus

    @9, oh jesus christ. Western media. Do you actually believe in the shit they write? CNN, BBC… Nothing new.
    When it comes to Russia it is always Putin-soviet regime-no democracy and other bullshit. When it comes to Arab Spring it’s Regime-Assad-Iran’s nuclear program-Russia+China and USA fuck yeah or Democracy fuck yeah.

    for your info, without that Mad Putin and western media shit Russia defends Syria only because there is their military base, there are more than fifty thousand Russian people live and they don’t want a Libyan scenario in which they will lose all support.

    also, for your information. USA is the biggest seller when it comes to weaponry, but that does not make them bad. It’s business.
    so if Russia sells some old shit that they don’t need anymore it’s a crime? Of course it’s not.

    “Russia and China Block U.N. Action on Crisis in Syria”

    and btw thank god for that. I don’t want Lybia 2 or Iraq 2. All these stupid wars are out of hand. This shit needs to end.

    #13 2 years ago
  14. DSB

    @13 Oh, right. It’s all a great worldwide conspiracy. It makes perfect sense now.

    http://english.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/07/02/223954.html

    http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/insidesyria/2012/06/20126382342333369.html

    So… Literally every news service outside of Russia, from Berlin to Bagdad, to Bangkok, to Manilla is a direct arm of the US government?

    Again. Perfect sense. That’s an extremely rational analysis, with a truly likely conclusion.

    Actually it is a crime to enable another country to commit heinous warcrimes against its own people.

    I agree though, it sure was terrible when Muammar Ghadaffi was ousted and the country was given back to the people who live there. We sure wouldn’t want that to happen again.

    #14 2 years ago
  15. Erthazus

    @DSb, Aljazeera is another Western media. Everyone knows that. It’s in Katar.

    “So… Literally every news service outside of Russia”

    and outside of Kazakhstan, Belarus, Armenia, China, Kirgizija, Tajikistan, India and other countries. Do you actually know that there are another countries than USA and Europe? That is a sarcasm of course because there are others opinions on that matter too you know?

    “from Berlin to Bagdad”

    i don’t know about Berlin, but i know that saying something about Bagdad is the same thing like saying about Katar which are occupied by USA long time ago. One is finished by war by USA, another one is a great ally which really wants Iran and Syria down for it’s own good.

    You should really stop believing that shit. I don’t live in Russia, but I know Russian language and i pretty much know what’s happening from Western point of view and Russian point of view.

    Russia is not a saint, but shit like this is not better than FOX NEWS.

    “I agree though, it sure was terrible when Muammar Ghadaffi was ousted and the country was given back to the people who live there. We sure wouldn’t want that to happen again.”

    Do you actually lived there to know something about people’s opinion there? For your info Lybia was the most developed country in Africa. Now it’s in ruins and people still fight there but now for power. Awesome freedom. Nothing changed.

    #15 2 years ago
  16. DSB

    Like I said, it’s obviously a global conspiracy. You’ve convinced me, because that makes perfect sense.

    And Muammar Ghadaffi was a lovely, lovely man.

    #16 2 years ago
  17. Erthazus

    He was not a lovely man. I hate him, but that does not mean that you need to kill him in the most brutal fashion and show him in front of the TV and than make photos with him in some refrigerator. that’s just disgusting.

    #17 2 years ago
  18. DSB

    @17 He did far worse to other people. Should we feel sorry for him, in your opinion?

    No, he was not a good man. I enjoyed the fact that he was killed. Maybe if he had been nicer, he wouldn’t have died the very first time he met his own people without an army to protect him.

    Also:

    Kyrgyztan doesn’t have a free press according to independent organizations.

    Source: http://en.rsf.org/kyrgyzstan.html

    Tajikistan is a party-based dictatorship.

    Belarus’ president won his last election by 80%, in a country where they have no term limits (so “presidents” can rule forever) and they apparently arrest journalists for critisizing him.

    Source: http://www.amnesty.org/en/library/info/EUR49/007/2012/en

    China is a party-based dictatorship.

    India is the only country you mentioned that actually has a recognized, fair democracy, and as a result they also have a free press that can write whatever they want:

    http://zeenews.india.com/news/world/india-should-push-russia-over-syria-arms-sales_781509.html

    http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2012-06-15/middle-east/32253842_1_syrian-opposition-syrian-people-assad

    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/india-backs-regime-change-in-syria;-russia-china-veto/908106/

    But of course, all of this dirty slander can all be perfectly explained by the global press conspiracy.

    Personally I think we should get all our news from dictatorships though. It’s the only way to get rid of those filthy lies that come out of these amoral western democracies, with their civil liberties and elections and all that nasty junk.

    #18 2 years ago
  19. Erthazus

    @DSB, “He did far worse to other people. Should we feel sorry for him, in your opinion?”

    Like for example creating the best country in Africa?

    “Belarus’ president won his last election by 80%, in a country where they have no term limits (so “presidents” can rule forever) and they apparently arrest journalists for critisizing him.”

    Yeah. Fact. But that does not change the fact that someone need to “Change” something in that country. It’s his and his people problem not others, yours or mine.

    “China is a party-based dictatorship.”

    Yeah. True. So what?

    I just don’t get your point. So what?
    United Kingdom for example has “constitutional monarchy”.

    “Source: http://en.rsf.org/kyrgyzstan.html

    Tajikistan is a party-based dictatorship.

    http://zeenews.india.com/news/world/india-should-push-russia-over-syria-arms-sales_781509.html

    http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2012-06-15/middle-east/32253842_1_syrian-opposition-syrian-people-assad

    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/india-backs-regime-change-in-syria;-russia-china-veto/908106/

    But of course, all of this dirty slander can all be perfectly explained by the global press conspiracy.”

    All these sources are in english and pretty much covered by Western Media.

    I can give you 10-20 links but in russian language or in belarusian language where everything will be completely opposite.
    Does not change the fact that others have different opinions and different points of views.

    I know mine and i know what Western Media writes about Russia, China or Arab Spring and in most cases i know all of this is bullshit at the level of Fox News. If you don’t believe me, that’s fine.

    But i will repeat myself. I know two languages at least at the level where i can see two point’s of view and Western media is very aggressive.
    Russian people when read these stuff laugh their ass off from these things because they know it’s not true at all about stupid things like Bad Putin, fake elections, “double standards” or “NOO democracy”!11

    “Personally I think we should get all our news from dictatorships though.”

    It’s not that different from a Western Media because superpowers like USA has it’s own interests like China or Russia.

    #19 2 years ago
  20. DSB

    This is getting more than slightly silly. Actually it started out silly, now it’s glaringly moronic.

    You want news from dictatorships who depend on Russia, or indeed Russia itself, and I want news from journalists in free societies, who are actually free to say whatever they like, without fear of getting beaten, fired or murdered.

    Here’s a Russian paper:

    http://en.novayagazeta.ru/politics/8647.html

    I think I’ll just leave it at that.

    #20 2 years ago
  21. Erthazus

    double post.

    #21 2 years ago
  22. Erthazus

    “You want news from dictatorships who depend on Russia, or indeed Russia itself, and I want news from journalists who are actually free to say whatever they like.”

    but they are not free. Who said they are free? Free from what? From money?
    and who said that i want news from dictatorships? I just have logic and know news from both points of view that are from reliable sources and not from silly New Your Times/BBC or Russian 1TV, Kommersant and etc.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fk-qRU2nAUQ&feature=fvsr – do you actually believe in this shit from “the most” democratic country in the world?
    this is what i’m talking about.

    and before you say something. I have friends who were in protests.

    “Here’s a Russian paper:

    http://en.novayagazeta.ru/politics/8647.html

    I think I’ll just leave it at that.”

    Thanks for proving my point. This paper hate basically every Russian except for liberals who protested last and this year.
    this is a well knows US wester media in Russia and it’s not only “NewPaper”, there is “Lenta” and “Seven days”.

    #22 2 years ago
  23. DSB

    So any Russian newspaper that dares to disagree with Vladimir Putin is corrupt and wrong?

    Okay. Again, that’s flawless logic.

    http://en.rsf.org/report-russia,131.html

    Ultimately if you want to be in denial, you can be in denial. I think it’s a shame to close your eyes to the obvious, but at the end of the day, all I can do is make fun of it.

    #23 2 years ago
  24. Erthazus

    “So any Russian newspaper that dares to disagree with Vladimir Putin is corrupt and wrong?”

    You don’t know that president and you don’t know the political situation in Russia to say such things. For your information he does not give a flying fuck about any newspaper or media.
    But as i said you know shit about that country and trying to put “Evil Putin” bullshit like narrow minded people in Western countries that have zero knowledge about Russian culture, language and political situation or people and their opinion at all.
    When i said that “http://en.novayagazeta.ru/politics/8647.html” is shit it was not because someone from politics (Mad Putin!1) don’t like it, it is because 95% of people that live there dislike this stuff because it is not true.

    “Ultimately if you want to be in denial”

    you are the only one in denial here. You know nothing about that country, never even been there and trying to put links from the internetz, trying to prove me something that ultimately have no basis in it.

    That “http://en.rsf.org/report-russia,131.html” is the biggest bullshit there is. It is at the level of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fk-qRU2nAUQ&feature=fvsr

    Mad Putin, slaughtering everyone and no free press, no democracy, but Medvedev is good!1 Suddenly.
    They are working together and they are from one party to begin with. They are friends for your info and things like “Dmitry Medvedev showed signs of wanting to allow more freedom”

    Is hillarious bullshit.

    Here some cool links, one of them even from Yahoo.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2091948/U-S-falls-47th-press-freedom-rankings-Occupy-crackdown.htmlhttp://www.infowars.com/confirmed-us-cia-arming-terrorists-in-syria/
    http://www.sott.net/articles/show/242425-Syria-Terrorists-Admit-France-and-US-Are-Supplying-Weapons
    http://freepress.org/columns/display/1/2005/1102
    http://news.yahoo.com/syria-takes-swipe-u-support-terrorists-175801638.html

    But you like them as facts i think. It’s free Western Press.
    I think you are just a UN/US fanboy. You should really calm down seriously. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fk-qRU2nAUQ&feature=fvsr Here you go again, after this video you can stop pretty much your link spam because in that video it shows how Western Press works.

    So in the end the one who is skullfucking Syrian children… or attacking Lybia, Iraq, Afghanistan and etc. Cool story bro.

    #24 2 years ago
  25. Old MacDonald

    I once dated a russian girl. There was hardly a day that went by without her criticizing the way we do things in my country, but the relationship ended when I dared say something potentially negative about her country. It was absolutely true, but she completely blew up and stayed angry for weeks.

    I realized that no matter how the Russians feel about the situation in their home country, westerners are always wrong and never allowed to comment on anything. However, Russians are allowed to criticize western countries all day long (and they will!).

    #25 2 years ago
  26. Erthazus

    “I realized that no matter how the Russians feel about the situation in their home country, westerners are always wrong and never allowed to comment on anything. However, Russians are allowed to criticize western countries all day long.”

    Because Westerners know nothing about That country and russians criticize Westerners if they do give a shit and they give a lot of shit recently in the political situation and etc.

    “here was hardly a day that went by without her criticizing the way we do things in my country, but the relationship ended when I dared say something potentially negative about her country”

    than she was stupid. Ending relationships because of this is retarded by definition.

    #26 2 years ago
  27. Old MacDonald

    26: I think it’s more about nationalism, tbh.

    #27 2 years ago
  28. solid warlord s

    I think next Homefrom game should be about normal Americans liberating America from the jews who run the banks, media, politics and other major institutions. Americans fighting to liberate against Zionits control should be the next game, i know the jewish run media will come out and pull a holocaust history lesson but its the truth. We have the right to say and be artistic the way we want..FREEDOM!

    #28 2 years ago
  29. Fnoros

    All media is corrupt!

    The western media is controlled by money-hungry corporations (which, while not a global conspiracy or anything like it, tend to have very similar goals(namely: MOAR MUNNEEZ!!!) and support similar policies)

    The Eastern media either does not exist or is controlled by the local governments, which all want to consolidate power, gain resources, etc.

    “independent” media usually either isn’t really independent or lacks the resources or popularity to spread information!

    Bias is human nature! TRUST NOBODY! Not even yourself!

    #29 2 years ago
  30. freedoms_stain

    Wasn’t Homefront near-future? If you’re going to do that I don’t see why you have to use Earth as your setting.

    Set it in Hicksland and have it invaded by the Redcommies of Dictatorland.

    #30 2 years ago