Thu, Jul 29, 2010 | 13:54 BST

PoP film director: Games “cannot do” drama

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We’re pretty sure that David Cage might have some choice words about this.

Prince of Persia movie director Mike Newell has told CVG that games “bore the arse” off him.

“The Prince Of Persia movie is a great big, general entertainment with a romance, a boy and a girl, comedy, action and a very good melodramatic story. It should be enormous, free reign entertainment. That’s what a Bruckheimer movie is, and that’s what this tries to do,” he said.

“But when the discussion turns to the minutiae of the games, it begins now to bore the arse off me, frankly.”

He went on to add that games can’t do the type of drama found in TV shows like 24 and The Wire. What about Lost and the polar bears?

“When people watch 24, they’re watching for the surprise, you know – when is the great big bad surprise going to step out from behind the palm tree,” he said.

“When they watch The Wire, they’re watching the human drama of it.

“You can’t do it without the human drama. And the video game cannot do that. The video game can do all sorts of face-pulling, all sorts of: ‘I am a bad man, I have a mean jagged sword,’, but it can’t do any more than that.”

The PoP movie released back in May alongside The Forgotten Sands. Let’s just say it did less then alright.

Via FileFront.

36 comments

#1

Crysis
29/07/10, 2:03 pm

he’s just making excuses so his movie doesn’t sound as bad to himself

#2

Gheritt White
29/07/10, 2:10 pm

BioShock and Portal say “hi”.

#3

Filofax
29/07/10, 2:10 pm

Games and Films two very different forms of entertainment.

#4

Tallon 4
29/07/10, 2:28 pm

The guy is an asshole. I was more overwhelmed by Ico and Flower than by his awful movie.

#5

Freek
29/07/10, 2:30 pm

Hilariouse statement when you consider the PoP games have more story, charm and character development then the movie.

#6

fdelfino
29/07/10, 2:30 pm

Apparentelly, his movies also “cannot do”, ‘ cause the POP flick was a piece of shit.

#7

Boris Fett
29/07/10, 2:35 pm

Funny, didn’t they say the same thing about film back in… oh… the 1930s? Then a little known movie that goes by the name of Citizen Kane was released…

It’s always hilarious when people who don’t “get” gaming lecture on about the hobby. This guy though, he makes Ebert look educated about the hobby in comparison.

#8

Yoshi
29/07/10, 2:40 pm

This is why someone needs to step up that likes games and movies to be the director that can create game to movies.

#9

Blerk
29/07/10, 2:42 pm

Games might not be able to do drama, but film directors sure can! :-)

#10

themadjock
29/07/10, 3:13 pm

He obviously hasn’t played Bioshock or Metal Gear Solid 4 then

#11

itsucks
29/07/10, 3:17 pm

Heavy Rain proves the contrary?… good job OP for making him almost sound right about his bullshit with your poor choice of games.

#12

Psychotext
29/07/10, 3:28 pm

“Metal Gear Solid 4″

…no.

#13

Telepathic.Geometry
29/07/10, 3:29 pm

Freek hit the nail on the mother-fuckin’ head.

#14

LOLshock94
29/07/10, 3:46 pm

i think what he did was good he used the characters yet he never used the PoP story and made his own why dont all movie games not just do that and if this was turned into a movie it would be bad and thats HALO

#15

Yoshi
29/07/10, 3:48 pm

@12

“Metal Gear Solid 4″

…Yep. :)

#16

NiceFellow
29/07/10, 3:51 pm

Can they do drama? Sure. Can they do it as well as other mediums? Not yet.

Was PoP a good dramatic film? Nope.

Moral : people in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.

Easy.

#17

DaMan
29/07/10, 3:53 pm

Metal Gear Solid is as dramatic as C.C. Catch..

#18

themadjock
29/07/10, 3:55 pm

@17 Did you actually play the game? Or are you just trolling. If you actually watch the albeit long cutscenes the cinematic experience was second to none

#19

LOLshock94
29/07/10, 3:56 pm

best drama game is portal just watching the <3 cude fall into the fires of hell
me had tear in my eye :(

#20

DaMan
29/07/10, 3:58 pm

I played the original when it came out, when I was 14 I also thought it’s the epitome of emotional drama.

#21

Psychotext
29/07/10, 4:01 pm

@21: Have you spent any time with real cinematic experiences? Kojima makes fantastic video games… but he’s a god awful storyteller, and an even worse editor.

#22

themadjock
29/07/10, 4:01 pm

@20. Sorry I didn’t understand your C.C. Catch reference.

#23

themadjock
29/07/10, 4:04 pm

@Psychotext – Perhaps bad editor, ecentric genius definately. The story to MGS 4 was amzing and very relevent in today’s society. He somehow also managed to tie the previous storylines of the games together. Granted the ending was a bit like the ending of LOTR

#24

AHA-Lambda
29/07/10, 4:06 pm

evidently neither can this director >_>

#25

Psychotext
29/07/10, 4:10 pm

It’s easy to tie a story together when you don’t have to follow any basic rules of common sense… or sense full stop. :D

#26

CaptPierce
29/07/10, 4:12 pm

Red Dead Redemption had some pretty heavy drama in it. A lot more than PoP, as far as I know.

#27

LOLshock94
29/07/10, 4:14 pm

peeps they have just comfirmed that theres a sequel for 30 days of night

#28

The_Deleted
29/07/10, 4:29 pm

Aren’t most games dramatic by their very nature, be it a God / Gears of War, Call of Duty or Flower and Joe Danger? If you’re invested in the theme, then any sense of drama comes from how involved you are in any given game.
You cannot say that about a lot of films these days, what with them being soulless, CGI infested moving images.
I’ll take Red Dead Redemption over another Transformers movie any day.
And I say that as life long Transformers geek who’s never given a toss about Westerns.

#29

_LarZen_
29/07/10, 5:15 pm

Mayby someone should tell the PoP film director that ALOT has happend since Pong?

But seriusly..there are alot of shity games out there. Seams he have seen 1 to many of them…saying that a game like Heavy Rain dont have drama is like pissing on a electric fence if you ask me….

But then again..no one did aske med did they? Oh wel..

#30

Phoenixblight
29/07/10, 5:31 pm

@28
+1000

There are plenty of games that deliver drama and its just a matter preference. I can name lots but why bother fueling a flame war. This director is just using a pathetic scapegoat to explain why his movie bombed.

#31

Nathan Grayson
29/07/10, 7:28 pm

Are some or all of Cage’s “choice words” words “JASON”?

Sorry. I had to. :)

#32

The_Red
29/07/10, 9:37 pm

Game may not be able to do drama but you sir, are definitly able to go and fuck yourself. Seriously, the idiot has ruined one of the best game stories of all time and still has guts to say stuff about video games?

#33

hitnrun
29/07/10, 11:56 pm

It really does sound like he’s describing his own work when he’s talking about games.

It’s not so much that he hates videogames that annoys me. Lots of people hate them, and we as gamers are too sensitive and insecure about it.

No, what horrifies me is that he was paid a large sum of money to transform a major property into a movie that he doesn’t know anything about. He doesn’t know or care about the medium. He doesn’t know or care about the specific (much beloved) property.

It would be like Hollywood commissioning someone to adapt Tolkien whose thoughts on the Lord of the Rings and Middle-Earth were “I don’t read.”

#34

LOLshock94
30/07/10, 1:40 am

like del toro????

theres a rumour that these are the marvel and capcom characters for marvel vs capcom
MARVEL
•Captain America
•Deadpool
•Dr Doom
•Elektra
•Emma Frost
•Hulk
•Iron Man
•Juggernaut
•Magneto
•Mr Fantastic
•She Hulk
•Shuma-Gorath
•Spider-Man
•Super Skrull
•Taskmaster
•Thor
•War Machine
•Wolverine
•X-23
CAPCOM
•Akuma (Street Fighter)
•Albert Wesker (Resident Evil)
•Amaterasu (Okami)
•Arthur (Ghosts ‘n Goblins)
•Chun-Li (Street Fighter)
•Chuck (Dead Rising)
•Chris (Resident Evil)
•Dante (Devil May Cry)
•Felicia (Darkstalkers)
•Hsien-Ko (Darkstalkers)
•Mike Haggar (Final Fight)
•Morrigan (Darkstalkers)
•Ryu (Street Fighter)
•Spencer (Bionic Commando)
•Trish (Devil May Cry)
•Tron Bonne (Mega Man Legends)
•Viewtiful Joe (Viewtiful Joe)
•Zero (Mega Man

#35

IL DUCE
31/07/10, 6:35 am

Yeah these movie people need to shut up before they start a war man…what did he play like the most boring hack and slash game ever? Prime example: Red Dead Redemption – play that game thru and you tell me that game doesn’t do drama right there, you play that ending and tell me you don’t feel nothing…not to mention games like Mass Effect (really anything BioWare), and especially Alan Wake as well, twists and turns around every corner in that game and plenty of “drama”

#36

Detale
31/07/10, 7:39 am

Having read the whole article over at CVG, I’d actually have to agree with some of the things he has said. A lot of the stuff above is taken out of context and he actually has some very interesting points on the whole nature of video game movies and the expectations of them.

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