Black Ops 2 team threatened by fans over latest PC gun tweaks, Acti calls for end of violence

Wednesday, 24th July 2013 10:17 GMT By Dave Cook

Call of Duty: Black Ops 2 developer Treyarch published a list of PC gun balancing notes this week, and it has triggered a spate of violence aimed at Treyarch’s design director David Vonderhaar. Activision’s Dan Amrich has blogged to call for an end of the violent threats.

PCGamesN reports that these updates in particular caused fans to apparently lose their shit:

Multiplayer Game Balancing

  • AN-94: Damage slightly reduced.
  • DSR 50: Rate of fire reduced.
  • Ballista: Rate of fire slightly reduced.

The changes prompted fans of said guns to suggest that Vonderhaar be killed and other such ghastly things.

Amrich blogged on the matter, “This has happened with every Call of Duty game that’s come out for the last few years, and it will continue to happen — a gun’s stats being adjusted should not be a surprise to anybody at this point.

“Yet [Vonderhaar] often gets told he should die in a fire or kill himself or is a horrible person. If anybody thinks for a second that this is okay, it is not. But if the loudest voices in the Call of Duty “community” act like an angry mob instead, guess how the entire world views Call of Duty?

“Now consider that these Internet Tough Guy rants and demands are not unique to COD, but exist everywhere, in many gaming communities. This is why the world often does not take gaming seriously; this is why gamers are assumed to be immature, whiny assholes. Because the immature, whiny assholes are louder.”

Amrich then asked gamers to put themselves in Vonderhaar’s shoes for a second and added, “If you enjoy your games, have a little respect for the people who make them — and stop threatening them with bodily harm every time they do their job.”

One glance at Vonderhaar’s Twitter will show that he is quite the helpful chap among the Black ops 2 community. Do you think he has the patience of a saint, or have fans got reason to be upset when their favourite guns are nerfed?

I’m guessing you guys will go with the former?



  1. KAP

    This what kind of crowds COD draws in now, mindless bullies that cant verbally communicate there feelings so result in sending death threats.

    Then you wonder why so many of us gamers disregard COD as anything but a respected franchise.

    #1 1 year ago
  2. Eregol

    ‘This is why the world often does not take gaming seriously; this is why gamers are assumed to be immature, whiny assholes. Because the immature, whiny assholes are louder.’

    Quote of the day for me.

    #2 1 year ago
  3. Zidane

    Just when I thought the COD community had hit rock bottom they somehow delve even deeper.

    #3 1 year ago
  4. Dave Cook

    @1 I play CoD online more than any other game and I rarely see these kind of people. Amrich is right, it’s a tiny minority of fuck-nuggets that give the rest of us a bad name. Annoying.

    #4 1 year ago
  5. KAP


    This doesn’t reflect so much on gamers then it does the franchise.
    Gamers will always have a bad rap for the simple fact its “videogames” where passionate about, this though is just taking the biscuit.

    Its the Call Of Duty crowd that loves K/D ratios and racial abuse, alone with homaaphobia comments all day long online that then thinks it ok to send death threats to the very devs that support the game is incredible.

    You’d never get that on Battlefield forums, thank god! – COD players, stay where you are, for the love of god!

    #5 1 year ago
  6. Eregol

    @5 Inside of gaming it reflects on the Call of Duty crowd, outside of gaming however it reflects on all gamers.

    #6 1 year ago
  7. xxJPRACERxx

    I know the answer to violence is not more violence but damn, I would like to kick some of these people right in the face!

    #7 1 year ago

    Vonderhaar has always come across as being incredibly arrogant whenever there are any changes made.

    I’m not surprised at any of the threats, like I’m not surprised at any of the abuse that other gaming related companies have gotten recently…

    #8 1 year ago
  9. Dave Cook

    @8 seems to be sticking around for now, doesn’t it?

    #9 1 year ago

    ^ What do you mean?

    #10 1 year ago
  11. Dave Cook

    @10 just saying this culture of giving developers immense amounts of shit for changes like these won’t go away any time soon.

    #11 1 year ago

    Well yeah, it’s people raging over first world problems, then following the mob mentality wherever it goes.

    It just goes to show what a huge amount of over entitled yobs that there are in gaming, who’ve lost touch with reality. Spending their time raging and feeling a sense of injury over luxuries that most people in the world could even dream of affording or having the free time to waste on.


    Doesn’t change the fact of Vonderhaar’s apparent arrogance. He could do with being a lot less cocky.

    #12 1 year ago
  13. Dave Cook

    @12 “Doesn’t change the fact of Vonderhaar’s apparent arrogance. He could do with being a lot less cocky.”

    Agreed. He is helpful at times but the tone needs fixed certainly.

    #13 1 year ago
  14. _LarZen_

    The retards in the world is always the ones screaming the loudest. And sadly it often reflects back at the normal people.

    In regards of these threats from gamers, David Vonderhaard should report them to the police. About time people understand that what wont be tolerated in real life is not different when hiding behind a keyboard.

    #14 1 year ago
  15. Ireland Michael

    This is not unique to Call of Duty by a long shot, and its just as bad in countless other games. Anyone who think this is somehow the domain of the CoD games is just using confirmation bias to justify their dislike of the franchise.

    Play League of Legends for more than five minutes and you’ll see a culture that makes Call of Duty’s look like a gathering of suit wearing, tea sipping, English upper class in comparison

    #15 1 year ago
  16. CPC_RedDawn

    Maybe if they put in guns to BO2 that were actually fun to use and not overpowered SMG’s the game would actually be somewhat balanced in the first place. The maps are so small in size that any SMG can dominate any game at literally any distance and this has not been fully adjusted yet either. The game is a mess and treyarch know this otherwise gun balances wouldn’t be prominent at such a late time in the games life span.

    This however, does not warrant death threats. Those are just butt hurt people who like a gun simply because its easy to get kills with.

    #16 1 year ago
  17. bradk825

    Vonderhaar has shown he likes to nerf guns just for being popular, even if they are not unbalanced, so I do find sometimes he goes too far with the nerfs.

    But I think the proper response would be to just tell him that, you know, without threatening to kill or maim him.

    #17 1 year ago
  18. Silent Killer01

    I always hated the 1 shot sniping(not headshot) but it never changes :(

    #18 1 year ago
  19. SplatteredHouse

    @6: That’s just ignorance, though. And it’s, yet again, not a new problem/potential obstacle. But instead, an example of another thing people are seemingly all too content to let stick, instead of doing something about to alter.
    WHO speaks to the world beyond the hobby, from it? Do you want them to do so?

    What happens to the bad apples when they are called out, or their actions bring them to light? In the more extreme cases…They can even end up featured in papers! Which have a much broader readership than this website. There isn’t an audible enough response from everybody else, to counter the stinking cacophony.

    What of gaming “trade” shows? The widely broadcast and reported upon ones. Is gaming and its surrounding culture presented, showcased and reveled in, or is it more celebrity/personality that becomes the focus. They need not be mutually exclusive, but the subject should not be overshadowed by the “extras” sent to enhance it. That happens, on occasion. Should these events be All About The Games?

    #19 1 year ago
  20. JavelinX


    #20 1 year ago
  21. dizzygear

    @1 Actually this kind of shit pops up with any game when the devs nerf something popular. Ive seen people go apashit in WoW as well over class nerfs.

    #21 1 year ago

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