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BioShock 2 was not “hugely successful,” admits Feder

Monday, 28 June 2010 16:16 GMT By Patrick Garratt

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Take-Two CEO Ben Feder has admitted that BioShock 2 wasn’t the smash it should have been.

“It was ultimately successful, but not hugely successful,” he said, talking to VentureBeat at E3. “We are also looking forward to other hits coming this year.”

Feder added, though, that the game had made money.

“BioShock 2 is profitable for the company and is a great success. The franchise is viable and has a lasting impact on consumers,” he said.

The exec pointed towards a lack of “surprise” as a reason for the relative flop.

“The surprise factor is always going to be there,” he said. “Sometimes they work for you and sometimes they work against you. Our goal is to have them work for us. More often than not. We are in the business of creating huge franchises and launching hits.”

BioShock 2 released on February 9 for 360, PS3 and PC. The 360 version scored 562,900 sales in the US in its launch month, while the PC and PS3 versions failed to chart.

Take-Two said at the beginning of March that more than 3 million units of the title had shipped to retailers.

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27 Comments

  1. The Hindle

    This is weird, didnt Bioshock 2 sell like 3m or something?

    #1 5 years ago
  2. Erthazus

    Because it was just a Bioshock 1.5 without that atmosphere.

    It’s not a Bioshock 2.

    #2 5 years ago
  3. StolenGlory

    @Erth.

    Couldn’t have said it better myself.

    #3 5 years ago
  4. Dralen

    @2 agreed. They shouldn’t have rushed it out the door so quickly. Instead they should have put more time into it and then hyped it up by showing it at a game convention a few years down the line.

    #4 5 years ago
  5. blackdreamhunk

    same guy blaming his sales on PC when the game just bombed! how is that drm doing these days? This very reason I am spending less money on games these days!

    with all the new tech out there I need Microsoft less and less too thank god!

    #5 5 years ago
  6. Aimless

    I think it’s a better game than the first in a lot of ways, its main issue is that the first game exists so the sequel didn’t have the shock of the new.

    It doesn’t help that the opening is probably the worst part of the game. Somewhat ironic, really: the first game had an amazing intro but petered out towards the end, whereas the sequel has a grand finale but starts off very humdrum.

    #6 5 years ago
  7. AHA-Lambda

    shame actually as unnesscary as it was i highly enjoyed it =/

    #7 5 years ago
  8. The Hindle

    When this first came out Take 2 were saying it was a massive success now they have backtracked strange if you ask me.

    #8 5 years ago
  9. Goliath

    I enjoyed Bioshock 2.

    #9 5 years ago
  10. Quiiick

    Blame it for being another boring “prequel”-game.
    Make proper sequels and while you’re at it, add something innovative to the table …

    #10 5 years ago
  11. Quiiick

    @ 8
    Just look how fast the price of Bioshock 2 was lowered on Amazon.uk.
    You can get it for £14.99 already.
    This is always an strong indication for initial bad sales.

    #11 5 years ago
  12. NGCes26294BIV

    What’s the point of posting comments on this site when wordpress then tells you to log in with an admin pass, then tells you that you’re posting too quickly.

    You lose your entire post, and your patience.

    Fix it already.

    #12 5 years ago
  13. Tourette syndrome guy

    @12. yeah, i thought it was just me. that shit sucks. fix it already.

    FFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    #13 5 years ago
  14. Goliath

    @ Quiiick

    Bioshock 2 wasn’t a prequel. It was set 10 years after the events of the first. The problem was that what made the first game great, the setting and the protagonists, were underwhelming in the second. The setting and gameplay was familiar and the story and protagonist were underdeveloped and plodding.

    #14 5 years ago
  15. StolenGlory

    @12 They are in the process of fixing it. In the meantime, just do what I do; before you submit your comment just highlight it all and copy it to clipboard.

    That way if you get the message that you’re posting too quickly (which you’re not), just paste the copied comment back in and hit submit.

    Works for me.

    #15 5 years ago
  16. Egon Superb

    “Shipped” is very different from “sold”. A certain Olympics title shipped something like 800,000 copies, I’m told – but only sold 20,000 in its first week. Announcing how many you’ve shipped is a good, confusing tactic – it tells retailers and the market you’ve got confidence in the product, whilst making the consumer think it’s selling well and must be awesome.

    #16 5 years ago
  17. Hunam

    I enjoyed Bioshock 2 more than Bioshock 1.

    The biggest problem is when you start playing the game you think that using rapture again was a cheat and that the place really was tapped out in the first game and by the end you are thinking that actually, there is so much more to rapture than before and wouldn’t mind seeing it again.

    #17 5 years ago
  18. MushroomStamp

    I disliked the retro feel. The graphics were not improved over the first. I did not like playing a slow trodding robot (big daddy). Enemies were more of the same. The environment seemed to be a rehash with less life/atmosphere. The multi-player was fun 1 time, then after that it was dead. The story was convoluted and had no “feeling” to it. Didn’t care about the antagonist or why things were the way they were. I played thru the single player and thankfully it was short because going into the 4th hour I had already seen it all and was bored fast. Tedious comes to mind.

    #18 5 years ago
  19. theevilaires

    Was with my girlfriend she loved it :D

    #19 5 years ago
  20. chronoss2

    I liked the first, but not B2. I bought it anyway day one but i couldn’t play it more than an hour. It’s technically behind!

    #20 5 years ago
  21. mington

    the AI partner and the prison level at the end was good, but it was too little too late by then.

    for me it failed the second they made you a big daddy, it might have worked if they made it more of a horror game…but they went the action route :(

    #21 5 years ago
  22. Malmer

    I really liked Bioshock 2. Now the difference between them wasn’t that big, but it was a solid game worthy of purchase.

    #22 5 years ago
  23. Dannybuoy

    If truth be told I didn’t like Bioshock. I’m really not keen on art deco so it tainted the game for me. Yeah, I really don’t like art deco

    #23 5 years ago
  24. fearmonkey

    I thought story wise, Bioshock 1 was better, but the combat was better in Bioshock 2.

    #24 5 years ago
  25. Joe_Gamer

    GFWL and Securom = no sale

    #25 5 years ago
  26. hitnrun

    I was disappointed with BS2.

    The new studio managed – beyond all my expectations – to tackle the problem of making a sequel to the complex and allegorical BS1, namely by sidestepping the political issues completely in favor of a paternal love story. The shallow ethos they end up with is not very challenging (“Political extremism is bad” – thanks for that insight guys), but it came out better than the cheap imitation I had expected.

    The problems lay in the many awful design decisions. The gameplay didn’t change one iota – the weapons and plasmids were either the same or simple reskins. Hypos, ADAM, Medkits, Vending Machines: all identical. The Little Sister Defense game, while creative, is forced and forced until it becomes a tedious chore. The story never delivers any kind of revelation, despite 10+ hours of build up, and in fact (due to the way the game ends) the entire last two hours end up feeling like a huge waste of time.

    Going back to Rapture, in particular, felt like finding out that Emperor Palpatine had survived the Death Star explosion and had decamped to Endor, converting the Ewoks into an army of evil teddy bears to await Episode 7.

    #26 5 years ago
  27. frostquake

    The Early Spring saw a TON of game releases, I bought the Game day one, but had a ton of new games coming out before and after, and it just sat on the shelf….Maybe not put a game out along with a ton of other new games, at the same time, stagger them out.

    It seemed liked Feb, March was like a Christmas of Game Releases. If I recall right…Feb and March 2010 saw more game releases then Dec. 2009…Which is odd considering…Last year it was kind of a Dry spell of games in Spring of 2009.

    #27 5 years ago

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    With Super Bowl 49 occurring this coming Sunday, February 1, EA Sports has updated Madden NFL Mobile with new feature enhancements and Super Bowl-themed Live Events. Updates include: League vs League Tournaments Obstacle Course Super Bowl Bonus Players Tom Brady and Richard Sherman Super Bowl Legends Super Bowl Moments Upgraded Auction House The Super Bowl […]

  • See Super Smash Bros.’ unused custom moves

    Super Smash Bros. was originally intended to have 16 custom moves per character. The final version of Super Smash Bros. only features 12 custom moves per fighter, but Nintendo left animations for some of the cut moves in place. A Youtuber called RED has dug these cut mvoes out of the brawler’s code, and displayed […]

  • The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt contains 16 hours of sex scene mo-cap data

    Sex is nothing new to the The Witcher games, and The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt is no exception. In fact, it contains 16 hours of sex scene motion capture data. Giggity. There’s a reason for the bedroom dalliances though, as Geralt is a flesh and blood human, or a modified human at any rate, with […]

  • Here’s the launch trailer for Fahrenheit: Indigo Prophecy Remastered

    A launch trailer for Fahrenheit: Indigo Prophecy Remastered has been released after an Amazon listing was revealed for it over the weekend. Key upgrades include: High-definition Graphics — All of the in-game textures have been meticulously recreated in HD for mobile and desktop. Widescreen Support – A true widescreen (not cropped) view strengthens the game’s […]

  • The open beta for Battlefield Hardline will be dated tomorrow

    The exact dates as well as more information on the Battlefield Hardline open beta will be shared tomorrow. This is according to the latest blog post from developer Visceral Games. “We’ll share the exact dates and info on the Battlefield Hardline open beta tomorrow,” wrote Visceral boss Steve Papoutsis. “Stay tuned, thanks again, and keep […]

  • Upcoming Hearthstone patch to apply balance change to Undertaker

    An upcoming Hearthstone patch will apply a balance change to the Undertaker card, Blizzard has announced. After the release of Goblins vs Gnomes, Blizzard said it kept an “eye on the state of game balance” as more matches were played using the additional cards. Released with The Curse of Naxxramas, Undertaker is considered an overly […]

  • February Games with Gold offers up Brothers: A Tale of Two Sons

    The free games on offer in February via Xbox Live Games with Gold have been announced. Xbox Live Gold members on Xbox One can download #IDARB during February. Xbox 360 users can grab Brothers: A Tale of Two Sons from February 1-15, when it will be replaced by Sniper Elite V2 from February 16 -28. […]

  • Kinguin blames unidentified Russian for deactivated Far Cry 4 keys

    Third-party game key seller Kinguin is issuing refunds to those who found their games deactivated through Ubisoft’s Uplay service. Customers which purchased keys for Assassin’s Creed: Unity, Far Cry 4, The Crew and Watch Dogs are affected. Kinguin said 4,600 customer tickets were submitted over the last 72 hours and 35 out of 3,400 of […]

  • Video Unlimited to be re-branded as PlayStation Video starting in February

    Like Music Unlimited, Sony’s Video Unlimited service is being replaced and re-branded PlayStation Video. PlayStation Video will become part of PlayStation Network to streamline digital services for the over 64 million PSN users. PlayStation Video and PlayStation Music will be added to PSN which is already a destination point for the PlayStation Store, PlayStation Plus, […]

  • Spotify arrives on PlayStation Music this spring, Music Unlimited closing

    Spotify will launch on PlayStation Network this spring as part of a new music destination called PlayStation Music. PlayStation Music is a replacement for Music Unlimited, and those with a PSN account can link to Spotify which can be used just for music, or when playing games on PlayStation 4. Existing playlists from current Spotify […]

  • Closed beta for Alone in the Dark: Illumination starts tomorrow

    The private beta period for Alone in the Dark: Illumination starts on January 29. Those who pre-order the game via Steam, will automatically be included in the beta, enabling them to provide feedback on the first campaign in single-player mode. An additional beta period will be announced in the weeks leading up to launch. The […]

  • Majora’s Mask Special Edition New 3DS XL available once more on UK store

    UK residents who want to get their hands on the shiny Majora’s Mask Special Edition New 3DS XL can once again pre-purchase it through the Nintendo UK Store. If you want one, you better hurry because units will likely go rather fast. Only one per customer is allowed, and once you drop £209.99 on it, […]

  • Nintendo Q3: 1.9M New 3DS models sold, Wii U lifetime sales hit 9.2M

    New 3DS XL has sold 1.3 million units as of December 31, 2014, Nintendo announced in its Q3 financial results today. New 3DS moved 580,000 units by the end of the same period. Lifetime sales of both systems combined total a little under 1.9 million. Combined global sales for current 3DS models available in Europe […]

  • Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare’s exo zombies reanimate a familiar format

    Advanced Warfare’s exo suits manage to bring an undead format back to life. Dave Cook welcomes zombies back to Call of Duty. “The challenges start to spike early so seasoned zombie slayers needn’t worry about being coddled.” Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare’s first DLC went live this week, dropping four very solid maps for multiplayer […]

  • YouTube app and Maps will be removed from PS Vita

    Sony said that it will end support for the YouTube and Maps apps, as well as remove the “near” feature in an upcoming firmware update. Sony has revealed that a system update releasing in March will remove the Maps app and prevent the “near” feature from obtaining location address or display maps, making it redundant. […]

  • There is a Destiny loot cave Easter egg in Dying Light

    Dying Light is the latest game to take a jab at Destiny by having its own loot cave. Destiny’s infamous loot cave has been recreated in Dying Light, sort of. Of course the loot cave in Dying Light is only an Easter egg and doesn’t actually net you any loot. Instead, upon entering it, you […]

  • Resident Evil: Revelations 2 supports co-op in story mode, but only offline

    You can play the campaign of Resident Evil: Revelations 2 in co-op, but not online. 4gamer spoke to producers of Resident Evil: Revelations 2 and made out with a few details concerning story, setting and more. The site confirmed that while you will be able to switch between characters in the single player, and have […]

  • The Witcher 3 may have a permadeath “Insanity” mode

    Although not yet confirmed, The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt developer CD Projekt RED is working on a difficulty mode dubbed “Insanity” that will delete your save if you die. During Monday’s Twitch stream, the developer took a few questions from the chat and we’ve got a bunch of answers. There are many interesting little bits […]

  • Dragon Age: Inquisition is the most successful launch for BioWare, based on sales

    Dragon Age: Inquisition is responsible for the most successful launch in developer BioWare’s history, according to EA. During last night’s EA Q3 2015 earnings call, the publisher said that Dragon Age: Inquisition was the most successful launch for developer BioWare. Today, we get a bit more detail. “In particular, Dragon Age: Inquisition had by far […]

  • Here’s a walkthrough of one mission from Far Cry 4 Hurk Deluxe DLC

    Far Cry 4′s latest DLC pack, Hurk Deluxe, seems like good fun, judging from this video. The Hurk Deluxe Pack was released today on all platforms. It comes with five new missions. The video below takes a look at the “Call of the Wild” mission. In the walkthrough you’ll get to see some of the […]

  • Battlefield Hardline beta date confirmed on Xbox Store

    The beta date for Battlefield Hardline has popped up on the Xbox Store, confirming the rumoured date. The listing for the Battlefield Hardline beta is available for anyone to see right now on the Xbox Store. Granted, it’s for Xbox 360, but unless EA is starting this beta early on Xbox 360, this will pretty […]

  • GTA player flies jets backwards in impressive stunts

    Doing stunts with jets in GTA 5 can be impressive, but it’s nothing like flying them backwards. Making videos of your jet stunts has become too mainstream. Which is why the latest video from YouTube channel GTA5Videos is all about defying that. The video below features some insane stunts mostly done by flying jets backwards, […]

  • CoD: Advanced Warfare balance patch out, System Hack nerfed, HBRa3 buffed

    The latest patch to Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare is here with some major changes to game balance. Making good on the promise to nerf System Hack, developer Sledgehammer Games has released the latest patch to Advanced Warfare to do just that, and much more. The patch is out now on Xbox platforms, with PlayStation […]

  • Grinding three purples in Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel may crash your game [UPDATE]

    Update: Gearbox Software has announced there’s currently a hot-fix in place for Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel as a temporary solution to crashes caused with the DLC update. Until a permanent fix can be made, the hotfix should correct crashing issues. All will be fixed in the next major game update. Original Story A bug that snuck […]

  • Havoc maps up the tempo for Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare

    Dave Cook dons his Exo suit to find the new Havok DLC maps a great change of pace for Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare. Given that Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare places great emphasis on verticality, it’s little wonder that Sledgehammer Games has designed the first of its four DLC map packs with elevation and […]

  • G2A responds to deactivated Far Cry 4 keys debacle

    G2A, one of the third-party sellers that were named in the ongoing episode of deactivated Far Cry 4 keys has decided to release a statement. G2A is a well known third-party key sellers online. Most users know it through its sponsorship deals with many YouTube and Twitch channels. The service sells keys both through its […]

  • Petroglyph’s Victory resurfaces with Korean co-developer

    End of Nations, Mytheon and Grey Goo developer Petroglyph Games seems to have salvaged a stalled project. Victory popped up back in early 2013 after Trion Worlds took End of Nations in-house. Petroglyph’s attempt to crowdfund the unusual strategy title ended in iniquity, but it vowed to do whatever it could to bring the game […]

  • Far Cry 4 Hurk Deluxe DLC now available

    Far Cry 4′s latest DLC pack adds new story missions and a pile of new weapons. Far Cry 4: Hurk Deluxe is now available on PC and Xbox platforms, and is rolling out to the PSN in line with local network updates. The pack bundles five story missions, including Yak Farm, Blood Ruby and Hurk’s […]

  • Yes, Resident Evil: Revelations 2 has microtransactions

    Resident Evil: Revelations 2 has microtransactions, but thankfully they’re not as outrageous as initial reports suggested. The subject of Resident Evil: Revelations 2′s microtransactions arose earlier today with reports filtering out of a European press event that you’ll be able to pay to keep playing after your character dies. The ramifications of this are pretty […]

  • Play mini-games to unlock Magicka 2 content

    Magicka 2 publisher Paradox Interactive has invited fans to earn in-game rewards by playing other games. The Magicka website will host various mini-games in the build up to Magicka 2′s launch later this year on PC and PS4. Playing these games controbutes to a community score total which will eventually unlock in-game content as well […]

  • Deactivated Far Cry 4 keys were purchased through Origin

    Far Cry 4 owners who found their games deactivated without warning may be surprised to learn where they came from. Many copies of Far Cry 4 purchased through third-party re-sellers have been deactivated without notice. Although resellers affected by the deactivations argued that they had made authorised purchases, Ubisoft has denied this. The publisher told […]

  • Will Assassin’s Creed visit Japan in 2016?

    The next Assassin’s Creed game after Victory may finally bring ninja and assassins together. An Assassin’s Creed fan has spotted what certainly looks like a heavy hint that the next game after Victory will be set in Japan. Ubisoft forums member Cornik22 was looking through the Assassin’s Creed 4: Black Flag official art book when […]

  • Resident Evil HD modder aims to restore original, terrible voice acting

    Resident Evil and its early sequels are justifiably famous for their simply dire voice acting. Some Resident Evil fans feel they just can’t enjoy the experience of exploring Umbrella facilities if someone isn’t talking at them with absolutely no regard for pacing, content or tone. As a result, modder Bunny has stepped up to the […]

  • Record iPhone sales drive Apple to revenue spike

    The iPhone is still going strong – in fact, it’s selling better than ever. Apple has announced its financial results for the quarter ending December 27 2014, exceeding expectations with a 29.5% increase in revenues to $74.6 billion. This was a new record for the company. One of the key factors in this spike is […]

  • HoloLens has “mind-blowing” potential for games, says Microsoft CEO

    Microsoft’s VR wearable HoloLens is going to be great for games, according to CEO Satya Nadella. Speaking to investors, Nadella made Microsoft’s entertainment plans for the device explicit. “It’s also getting clearer how the games people love today will evolve to mind-blowing experiences in the future when designed for the mixed reality that Windows 10 […]