Fri, Jul 31, 2009 | 10:57 BST
Rage runs faster on 360 than PS3 [Update]
id’s John Carmack’s told Edge that the Xbox 360 and PC versions of Rage currently have higher framerates than the PS3 version.
Apparently the Xbox 360 SKU – which uses id’s new Tech 5 engine – matches the 60fps framerate of the PC version, while PS3 runs at just “20-30fps”.
More on CVG.
Update: Edge has put up a story containing more quotes from the mag. Basically, the PS3 version’s lagging behind, but it’ll all be OK in the end. Phew.
“Everything is designed as a 60 hertz game. We expect this to be 60 hertz on every supported platform,” Carmack said.
“The work remaining is getting it locked so there’s never a dropped frame or a tear, but we’re confident that we’re going to get that.”



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#51
Phoenixblight
31/07/09, 1:29 pm
“Most console FPS are pretty poor”
So says the PC biased person…
Any console fan boys want to say otherwise….
#52
DrDamn
31/07/09, 1:33 pm
@Artheval_Pe
“there’s a good reason why nobody tried cross-platform FPS between consoles and PC”
Shadowrun.
#53
crippledhooba
31/07/09, 1:36 pm
The article didn’t originally say it would be fixed, thats why us fanboys were going crazy.
#54
theevilaires
31/07/09, 1:41 pm
Its what us console gamers grew up with Artheval_Pe. I suck using a keyboard and mouse playing games even if its the sims
I’m just so use to consoles that I’ve adapted to playing any genre with a console controller at peak superior performance. If my skills were matched up against a superior key board and mouse FPS equivalent and I lost just about every game say 10 out of 10 then I would say PC controls are the best for that genre but as it stands I think a standard console controller feels better.
#55
Psychotext
31/07/09, 1:44 pm
I’m really glad I’m not affected with this PC elitism affliction. Halo was my first console FPS… and you know what? I enjoyed it just as much as any PC FPS I’d played (and I’d pretty much played them all going all the way back to Wolfenstein).
A good game is a good game, no matter the platform.
#56
DrDamn
31/07/09, 1:48 pm
The relatively level playing field of a console FPS is also a big thing. Everyone is getting the same frame rate and using the same tools to play. No one has hacked the game or tweaked the settings to gain an advantage.
In our old office Quake 2 games one guy changed his settings so everyone appeared bright white against a plain and dark background – he didn’t consider it cheating obviously.
#57
cachucha
31/07/09, 2:54 pm
“360 owners get saddled with a multidisc game, and PS3 gets a compromised frame rate.”
And in the end the universe tends to unfold as it should..
“Actually, doesn’t OpenGL on PC pretty much go through DX API’s anyway?”
No, its it own API, thats why is crossplatform(used almost in every console, even on the freaking iphone)
On other note, im pretty sure they will have the game running on 60fps(also could expect graphic differences between the 360 and ps3, not to mention pc which is obvious :p), id is always evolving their engines, so maybe it was a risky move programming one game for console where the engine is heavily based on pc experiences.
And yes id tech is based on Opengl, they wont let MS win so easily.
#58
G1GAHURTZ
31/07/09, 3:15 pm
Errmmm…
What’s all this crap about PC FPS’s being a level above console ones??
Utter rubbish.
Sorry, but I’ve been playing both PC and console FPS’s for a good few years now, and I can tell you that console FPS’s have overtaken PC in more ways than one.
I own CoD4 on both PC and 360, and I play the both of them online and the PC isn’t significantly more fun to play than the 360 version by any means.
All this crap about using a mouse/keyboard being some sort of l337 weapon is utter nonsense for the simple fact that it’s all relative.
If you play on PC, you play against other people with the same setup as you. If you play on console, it’s the same. Everyone (apart from hackers) is on a level playing field, so the good gamer learns to adapt to the controls in front of him and beats the oposition.
The whiney, whinging player moans because he/she can’t figure out that you have to play in a slightly different way, so they start crying when they can’t turn like they can with mouse control.
If it was joypads v’s mouse/keyboard, it would be a different story, but that’s not the case.
In any case, any real FPS player knows that the art of winning is based on timing, movement, knowledge of the map, knowledge of spawn points, areas of cover and the correct choice of setup/weapon.
Sure, if you can only run and gun, and your game is based on running around in the open, shooting people quicker than they can shoot you, then turning speed is going to be an issue.
If you’re a good FPS player, and realise that everyone using a joypad is in the exact same boat as you, it isn’t.
#59
theevilaires
31/07/09, 3:46 pm
Go get em G1ga
#60
G1GAHURTZ
31/07/09, 3:56 pm
Pow, pow, pow!
/shadow boxes.
#61
MushroomStamp
31/07/09, 3:57 pm
Amen Brotha !
#62
Galactic_Barret
31/07/09, 4:41 pm
Is this id’s first current-gen game? If so, I can understand the difficulties of making the PS3 version; Every 3rd party developer has had problems programming on the machine on their first, even second or third, outing. I don’t know much about John Carmack, and I don’t expect anything close to 1st or 2nd party games, but if he is a great as everyone believes he is, I’ll take his word that he will make the PS3 version of RAGE the best he can with what he has to work with.
#63
fearmonkey
31/07/09, 10:38 pm
I agree with Psyhco, and mostly with Giga.
I have quite a few friends who are mostly PC gamers and they whine consistantly when they attempt to play Halo2, Halo3, UT3, COD4, COD5, etc. A few are PC trackball users, and the others are Mouse users.
They hate the controller as they arent instantly attuned to them, and since they think they have a better chance at being number one wiht PC controls, they whine or refuse to even play it.
I explained to them that I was heavy Doom – Heretic player and when Quake came out, i sucked at it. I took me awhile, but I worked at it and got good at it. Same with consoles.
The first time I played Halo multiplayer was at a party against two young brothers that wiped out anybody in the room. All they did was play aginst each other after school, and no one could touch them. Eventually I beat them, but it took some investment.
Now I play RPG’s more than FPS games, and not so much into the multiplayer deathmatch anymore.I still play dm but nowhere near what I used to.
And if you’ve been touched by my story, please send cash to…………..
#64
Tonka
03/08/09, 8:52 am
OMG, the PS3 really is shit, isn’t it?
#65
Psychotext
03/08/09, 9:40 am
You’re slipping Tonka. That’s a seriously poor response time.
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