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UPDATE: Tomb Raider Definitive PS4 confirmed at 60FPS, Xbox One still unconfirmed

Thursday, 23rd January 2014 16:21 GMT By Dave Cook

Tomb Raider: Definitive Edition has been confirmed to run at 60 frames-per-second on PS4, but the Xbox One version is still up in the air. Square Enix has now sent us a statement on the matter.

UPDATE: A Square Enix representative has sent us the following statement on the whole frame-rate issue. It reads, “Both platforms offer the same outstanding Tomb Raider experience. Delivering the core Tomb Raider gameplay at native 1080p and running at 30fps was always our primary goal given the type of experience Tomb Raider is and the exploration we want players to do. Anything beyond 30fps for this version is gravy.”

ORIGINAL STORY: The news follows my Tomb Raider: Definitive Edition interview, in which we discuss the game’s new improvements, next-gen tech, and how the experience will help fuel the Tomb Raider sequel.

It was confirmed in a GamesRadar livestream by executive producer Scott Amos.

During the stream he addressed claims the game was locked at 30FPS on both formats and explained, “Uh, no, I mean, you’re seeing it right here. So, there definitely, you know, one of the things that people had asked, they had heard various quotes, actually heard some misquotes, our goal from the beginning was always to be 1080p gameplay at 30 frames per second minimum.

“Some people have taken that and misconstrued like, ‘Oh, it’s locked to 30!’ Actually, no, it’s literally, the game was always from the beginning, our absolute requirement was gameplay at 1080p and minimum 30 frames per second. And anything past that was gravy. That’s the kind of game we are, the kind of world we are, and as you’re sitting here looking at it, like we said on the PS4, this is running at 60.”

He didn’t mention the Xbox One build. However, RocketChainsaw writer and NeoGAF admin EatChildren claims to have heard from “verified sources” that the Xbox One build is averaging at 30FPS, while both run at 1080p native resolution.

He added, “For most of your play, and during action scenes, the Xbox One build will sit on around 30 fps. On the other hand, the PlayStation 4 build will attempt to hit 60 fps as often as possible, and does a pretty good job of doing so, but does have slight dips under 60 fps during certain scenarios.”

Meanwhile, we’ve asked our own Square contacts for confirmation. Stay tuned.

What do you make of the above? Let us know below.

Via Gematsu.

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  1. Hcw87

    If this turns out to be true, and the same thing happens with Destiny for example, i will firmly shift my multiplat gaming over to PS4 (or PC). A shame really, my gamerscore is FAR bigger than my trophy collection, and most friends are on XBLive.

    #1 6 months ago
  2. Fin

    That’s pretty damning really.

    “Oh yeah it runs at minimum 30 across both platforms…but PS4 runs at 60″

    #2 6 months ago
  3. DuckNation

    60fps on Ps4, 30fps on Xb1

    nothing new here

    #3 6 months ago
  4. fengato

    “If this turns out to be true”

    Once we got the specs, it became pretty obvious that the PS4 was going to be the right choice for 3rd party. I don’t understand the surprise or wait and see approach. For those who own both, it’s pretty simple.

    #4 6 months ago
  5. Djoenz

    Well since I have been a console gamer my whole life I was always used to fps lower than 30…you pc fellaz are way too spoiled.

    Using terms like console peasants and pc master race…We console gamers should work together and defeat these evil pc scum!!!

    Off with their heads!

    @Hcw87
    Look on the bright side bro at least XboxLive is way more secure with XboxOne having dedicated servers and all.

    #5 6 months ago
  6. _LarZen_

    This pretty much sums it all up:

    The XBO, it’s trying so hard. But it just cant get it right.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOF80wX3EN8

    And then we have the PS4, the song pretty much sums it up.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UmaFTEIZ84

    #6 6 months ago
  7. Xbone

    I really really hope that this game wont run on 60 on this pos machine called xbone.

    #7 6 months ago
  8. absolutezero

    So its a swap from the last generation.

    Its not that much of a big deal. The PS3 ran most multi-plat games slightly worse than the 360. Now its the PS4 running games a lot better than the XBone. Games are still going to be released for each. Good games. Worth buying.

    I’m far more concerned about the complete silence from MS about when the updates for Live and the console are going to start rolling out. If that awful Party system is still there when Titanfall comes out I imagine a lot of people are going to be pretty pissed.

    #8 6 months ago
  9. KAP

    Here we go again.. Xbone and Nintendo are really having a crap start of the year.
    Like they say, if all this bad press is smoke, there’s fire soon to follow.

    #9 6 months ago
  10. Belazur

    The PS4 is the clearly more powerful hardware, for a better/cheaper price.
    So no suprise here.
    All multiplats will look better on the PS4.

    #10 6 months ago
  11. The_Red

    What happened after Xbox One’s release?
    - Resolution (1080p vs 720p) no longer matters.
    - Frame-rate (60fps vs 30fps) no longer matters.
    - Being caught while illegally bribing no longer matters.

    #11 6 months ago
  12. Pytox

    omg LOL :D

    #12 6 months ago
  13. absolutezero

    I’m not really trying to downplay anything, sorry if it came across that way, as it stands right now no one should buy the Xbone version of this game, its distinctly worse.

    The resolution I can give or take, its not really all that important in the scheme of things. Frame-rate however, is very important.

    The more console gamers we can expose to 60FPS and the difference it can make, the more eyes we can educate the more games are going to start seeing it as an obtainable target. 60FPS is a wonderful beautiful thing, you just don’t know it yet.

    Let us educate your eyeballs.

    #13 6 months ago
  14. aseddon130

    Wow, the first few comments seemed promising in this not just turning into your typical fanboy warfare but then comment #6 lets me down :(

    Still preordered this game, i’d like to play this game again with enhanced visuals as it was an extremely solid game on the 360, if it runs the same as that and looks better then that’s enough for me.

    #14 6 months ago
  15. Djoenz

    @Absolutezero

    COD Ghosts on PS4 Singleplayer 60fps or 30fps? Cause like I heard Killzone has 30fps in SP but 60fps in MP. I have to say there is a huge difference between Ghosts on PS3 and Ghosts on PS4 however I guess its still ok on PS3 you spoiled brat!

    #15 6 months ago
  16. The_Red

    @13
    Sorry about my earlier comment. After reading some seriously defensive / downlplaying reactions from twitter and GAF, I was on “hyperbole” mode. I’ve edited the comment seeing how your comment was actually balanced and fair.

    #16 6 months ago
  17. Fin

    @15

    60fps both SP and MP.

    #17 6 months ago
  18. Gekidami

    ^ And 1080p, unlike on XB1. Same goes for AC4. Last gen ports failing to meet those basic standards despite being straight up carry overs should have been more than enough of an alarm. This news should surprise no one.

    #18 6 months ago
  19. Nickwpearce

    Ghosts was 1080p for PS4 with slowdown and 720p upscaled on xbox one with no slow down… I played last gen at 720p cause i was sick of slowdown and screen tearing…

    IMO its quick lazy porting for both consoles, we know PS4 is more powerful but all this crap ’3rd party is for ps4′ honestly with sonys servers???

    also this is an article that doesnt confirm a thing, lately all the bashing for m$ and nintendo is getting out of control while sony is close to being bankrupt the other two companies are financially fine for many many years unlike sony.

    Tomb raider which is a fast action platform shooter at 60fps sounds awesome, but no one has mentioned that it isnt constant, it dips! this isn’t the n64 and this isnt goldeneye or perfect dark frame rates staying at 30fps is better than 60fps dropping to 40fps

    each to their own i guess

    #19 6 months ago
  20. Gekidami

    ^ Excuse me?
    http://www.gamepur.com/news/12653-cod-ghosts-xbox-one-has-frame-rate-issues-and-main-reason-not-buy-says-ex-i.html

    #20 6 months ago
  21. KAP

    @11

    World war 1. No longer matters.

    World war 2. No longer matters.

    9/11. No longer matters.

    Everything wrong with the world. No longer matters.

    lol.. you see where I’m going with this right?

    #21 6 months ago
  22. Mike W

    @19

    You sound like a bitter fool. Do you even know the point you’re trying to make?

    #22 6 months ago
  23. Ireland Michael

    I have a dream…

    I have a dream, that one day we will live in a culture where games will not be judged by the format they are released on, or the resolution and framerate they run at, but by the quality of their gameplay!

    Some day!

    #23 6 months ago
  24. absolutezero

    In certain genres FPS is directly tied to quality of gameplay. Resolution less so much.

    #24 6 months ago
  25. Ireland Michael

    @24 Yes, I know. I even made that argument to Dave that in certain cases (depending on genre), the framerate can have a huge impact on gameplay.

    But at the end of the day, we’re all gamers. We can enjoy our games on numerous format that gives us what we want, and that’s all that matters. Whether it’s PC, PS4, Xbox 360, or a freaking GameBoy.

    Someone called me “The Martin Luther King of gaming” earlier today, which I found funny. So I just decided to run with it. Hahahaha.

    #25 6 months ago
  26. absolutezero

    I’m with you brother.

    Preach it. Walk a mile in another man’s games.

    #26 6 months ago
  27. Digital Bamboo

    Well, this is good news, since I plan to get a PS4 in a few years.

    To be honest, I thought Tomb Raider looked and played great on PS3–one of the years best–but if the improvement is really this dramatic, then I guess I’ll sell my PS3 copy and pick up the Definitive Edition later on…or just get it for PC. It remains to be seen how well my future rig will run this.

    #27 6 months ago
  28. Ekona

    I can’t even tell the difference between 30fps and 60fps. 20fps and 30fps yes, but not any higher.

    As long as the game is good, I don’t really mind if it’s technically inferior. Ghosts was superior on PS4, but to my eyes it looked better on the Xbone due to the colouring and lighting.

    #28 6 months ago
  29. absolutezero

    FPS is not linked to how good a game “looks”. Which is why using the cinematic FPS of 24 wrong-headed.

    FPS is directly linked to interaction, it makes everything smoother and far more responsive, it makes your link to the gameworld better, faster, stronger.

    So no a higher FPS will not make your cut-scenes look better but will always improve the actual meat of playing games, which is interaction. Your a passive viewer of a movie you never change the camera position and the way movies are produced means that there is almost constant motion blue which obviously helps disguise the slower frame rate.

    I can easily believe that there are people that can not tell the difference between 60 and 30 FPS but I also believe that if you sit down one of those people in front of a PC displaying a variety of games at 60 and have them play for a few hours they really will begin to notice the difference not necessarily in visuals but in the smoothness of gameplay and controls.

    #29 6 months ago
  30. Belazur

    #28
    Jesus…. Ekona please…!

    It’s funny how every Xbox fan got faulty eyes after the generation switch.

    As it seems, they can’t see a difference anymore between “native 1080p” and “native 720p” or 30FPS and 60FPS.

    “Uh…..it’s all the same to me.”
    Yeah, sure!

    #30 6 months ago
  31. Ireland Michael

    @28 Trust me mate, there is a huge difference. Not just in how it looks, but how it *feels*.

    60FPS is 30 extra frames in which an imput can be calculated or done. That allows for more precise aiming in a shooter, better steering in a racer, tighter controls in a beat-em-up, and skillful timing in a spectacle shooter.

    I agree with you in that it shouldn’t be the be all and end all. The willy waving about specs and hardware and all that crap is so tedious. Let people enjoy their games on whatever format offers them the experience they want.

    #31 6 months ago
  32. Panthro

    The Xbox is a potato compared to the PS4, confirmed once again.

    Happy at least one side will be experiencing 60fps though, it isn’t as overrated as you all think!

    I agree @31, it shouldn’t be a factor of “if this game isn’t running at 60fps I wont buy it” otherwise I wouldn’t have played GTA V, The Last of Us, MGS4 and the rest of the good part of the console library but if I had a choice in the matter I would never play 30fps again.

    #32 6 months ago
  33. Moonwalker1982

    Weird these conflicting reports. On January 20 they said 30fps for both.

    Either way, it’s ridiculous if one can reach 60fps and the other can’t. This is a fucking old-gen game too with some improvements. Is the difference between X1 and PS4 really that night and day after all? I recall multiple devs saying the difference between the two would be even smaller to PS360. Bullshit, this actually would be far worse and we are this early in the consoles’ lifecycle, what could this mean for future multiplatform games? Similar differences to this or even worse?

    As a big Xbox guy this is definitely bad news, not because i give a shit about this very unessecary Tomb Raider edition, but because this could mean the same kind of difference or worse for other upcoming multiplatform games. Not good at all.

    #33 6 months ago
  34. pandulce1

    The denial is strong with some xbone fans, and this is only month two of the consoles release. Will they be able to withstand five or six years of this?

    #34 6 months ago
  35. Panthro

    @33

    Just enjoy your games on your platform of choice.

    Graphics and FPS don’t matter after all remember…

    #35 6 months ago
  36. Ireland Michael

    @34 Most will be too busy enjoying the games on their format of choice to give a fuck.

    The rest will be ailing on the internet exercising their this because a misguided sense of superiority requires them to justify their life decisions regarding pieces of hardware.

    #36 6 months ago
  37. Someboooodie

    Well this just says it all. Ps4 the TRUE next gen.

    #37 6 months ago
  38. Ireland Michael

    @38 There is nothing “next gen” about either piece of hardware, because they’re both only roughy at the level of what would be considered a half decent gaming PC.

    In five years, these machines will be more outdated than the Xbox 360 or PS3 are now.

    But who honestly cares which is “better”? Why are people so invested in that fact? Why do they get so wrapped up in it? What does it really matter?

    #38 6 months ago
  39. Panthro

    @38

    Michael don’t be nasty, allow them to think their consoles are something “new” for a little bit longer… It’s nice to see them happy, bless.

    _____

    At this point all they have is the argument of which console has more power since they have no decent software to compare yet.

    #39 6 months ago
  40. Moonwalker1982

    @38

    That’s why i really don’t see these consoles lasting as long as the PS3 and 360 did.

    Resolution is not even that big of a deal for me. I thought it was until i saw the difference and it really ain’t all that noticeable for me. But 30fps vs 60fps….is very noticeable. Especially on a 110 inch screen. If all my friends weren’t on Xbox, i’d be going all PC, but sadly there are still plenty games that only release on the consoles and it will stay that way too.

    #40 6 months ago
  41. Eregol

    Regardless of the difference in frame rate the PS3 to PS4 comparison video didn’t really show enough of a difference in the general look to convince me to part with my money for this version. I’ve already played and completed it on PS3, and really enjoyed my time with it.
    I could possibly be swayed if they were to do it as a PS3 to PS4 upgrade. But really I’m struggling to see the point in this new version.

    #41 6 months ago
  42. Nickwpearce

    @22 can you read? posting some twitter post of an ign (worse site online) editor is proof? there is various reports of the ps4 having lots of issues with games running at 60 fps

    I’m not bitter at all i enjoy my games on all consoles, but a constant frame rate is more important than one that drop from 60 to 40/50 IMO

    most pc dickheads are too far up on their pedestal to even admit it

    this console ‘war’ is far from over in all honesty i hope sony goes bankrupt because they are one of the worse companies around and have been for years

    “PlayStation 4 build will attempt to hit 60 fps as often as possible”

    if it isn’t constant whats the point??

    oh and i love this game but why would i for out full price for some upgraded visuals that dont even compare to the pc??

    #42 6 months ago
  43. Panthro

    @42

    Wow, he is right though.

    You sound like one bitter dude.

    “i hope sony goes bankrupt because they are one of the worse companies around and have been for years” – Nahh they are not that bad like, you just sound angry you ‘sided’ with Xbox and now the PS4 is pushing more power.
    ______

    I would rather have an inconsistent framerate trying to hit 50-60 than play a full game running at 30fps.

    “slight dips under 60 fps” hardly matter, you won’t feel them.

    ______

    “oh and i love this game but why would i for out full price for some upgraded visuals that dont even compare to the pc??”

    At least your consistent with what you say, most of them have been shouting that graphics don’t matter for years but this proves once again they are all mostly ignorant fools since they are all running out to pay more money for ‘upgraded visuals’…

    #43 6 months ago
  44. xxxGamesMasterxxx

    60fps on Ps4, 30fps on Xb1? oh dear Xbone fails again.

    #44 6 months ago
  45. Dragon

    Major Nelson – “I cannot wait for truth to come out”

    #45 6 months ago
  46. Tormenter

    Really? More of this?

    I may have to make a longer appearance here in the near future.

    #46 6 months ago
  47. X14EVR

    I heard they still are working on code for some secret optimisation/part to kick in in the xbox inside.

    It was in the news ages ago i am surprised none of you even saw. xbox have a lot more power than ps4 and pc but since they had to rushed xbox to get it out to the fans faster so we could enjoy it longer they didnt finish the code properly unlocking its true power, few more months and the code will be done I heard and I should know I have a relative at microsoft who helped make the xbox.

    #47 6 months ago
  48. CyberMarco

    @47 You are so funny, and delusional! :P

    #48 6 months ago
  49. Tormenter

    @47

    Actually I’ll agree with you on this.. not that it’s MORE powerful than PS4, but yeah, there is some optimisation going on, I read that also. Isn’t it something to do with the eSRam?… or something along those lines..

    At the end of the day though I still think the PS4 will have it.. There’s only so much optimisation you can do.. and the PS4 does actually have the better HW.

    #49 6 months ago
  50. X14EVR

    see even people know its true like tormentor
    all the rumors about the second graphics card were fake but were true as well because thats what they were calling the secret optimisation i think thats what my relative says anyway

    #50 6 months ago
  51. Moonwalker1982

    @49

    Yeah this stuff was being said last year too, that some development tools weren’t fully ready yet and that is why some multiplats weren’t the same resolution as PS4. But damn…a game that came out for the last-gen consoles, only with some graphical improvements and can’t reach 60fps while the other can? That is bad. But i hope you are right about optimisation, fact is…CD did not mention Xbox One at all, not a good look.

    #51 6 months ago
  52. Tormenter

    @50

    Woah up there, cowboy.

    I don’t know nothing ’bout no second gpu.. The issues are down to the existing configuration leaving room to be improved on.. but it’s not going to become some uber machine.

    #52 6 months ago
  53. X14EVR

    dont lose faith xbox has always been better and always will be it just needs to unlock the new code they are making

    #53 6 months ago
  54. Ekona

    @30 I made my commitment to Xbone knowing that it was the technically weaker platform. I’m still comfortable with that, as for me it’s a system I prefer in all other aspects.

    720/30 and 1080/60 are not the same, not by a country mile, I don’t disagree with that. I don’t disagree that the PS4 version of most (if not all) multiplats will look better on that system to most. I’m only telling you what my eyes tell me. It’s the same reason I prefer LCD TVs to Plasma ones: They simply look better to my eyes. There may be a hundred technical reasons why plasma is better, but I can’t see it.

    Once you have a game in the isolation of your living room, and cannot do a direct comparison, then as long as it looks amazing to you then nothing else matters. If it looks and plays like arse as well at that time, that’s when you have a problem.

    @31 It’s a fair point about reaction times, but then again I’ve never noticed the difference in previous gens between 30 and 60fps, even back when I was gaming on the PC and could change it at will. I’m not saying that I’m right and everyone else is wrong, as the reverse is more likely true, but it’s not something I considered important when I made my next-gen gaming decision.

    TLDR: As long as I’m happy, people can argue over specs all they want.

    #54 6 months ago
  55. Fin

    @54

    Srs about never noticed difference between 30 and 60?

    http://boallen.com/fps-compare.html

    #55 6 months ago
  56. Bomba Luigi

    Yeah, 60 FPS are better then 30, at least as long as they are stable. But do you have to care? No. Some do, some not, its fine, you can have the same fun with 30 like someone other has with 60.

    In the End, if you didn’t have a Problem with 30 FPS on the old Consoles why should you have one now?

    #56 6 months ago
  57. One-Shot

    Jokes on the PC fanboy commenters in the last TR thread that were holding onto the belief TR:DE was only 30fps. (which didn’t even matter then either.)

    #57 6 months ago
  58. Mike W

    @42

    Right back at you, I never stated anything in my first post on whether this article is fact or fiction because I could give two shits about this whole “my console can do more frames than yours” debate.

    Like I stated before you sounded “bitter” and even immature with your original post, because this article stated that the PS4 version of this game runs at a higher fps than the Xbox one and something about that appeared to upset you.

    You first mentioned COD: Ghost’s resolution for both the PS4 and Xbox one, which made no sense regarding the information provided to you by this article.

    You then stated how you’re upset on how both the XBO and Nintendo are receiving negative press at the moment and Sony is not, which again, made no sense regarding the information provided to you by this article.

    Then you took a turn for the worst when you starting mentioning on how both Microsoft and Nintendo are doing well financially than Sony and “Sony” is on the verge of going bankrupt when its finances is compare to its competition.

    Once again, you’re making no “sense” regarding the information provided to you by this article.

    So like I stated before, do you even know the point that you were trying to make?

    And you know what?

    You don’t even have to answer that, cause you’re clearly to foolish to realize what you even wrote..

    #58 6 months ago
  59. Moonwalker1982

    @54

    Agreed about the Xbox One, i prefer it too in all the the other aspects. That is why i am so gutted about this news. I had definitely expected X1 to do 60fps too. Interesting what you said about LCD and Plasma. I can never ever get used to LCD after having owned Plasma. The ghosting/blurring is terrible on LCD. Might have gotten better through the years, but in 2012 i owned of the best LED/LCD’s for gaming and the blurring was just impossible for me.

    #59 6 months ago
  60. pukem0n

    who the fuck cares about 30 or 60 fps?

    #60 6 months ago
  61. Ireland Michael

    “TLDR: As long as I’m happy, people can argue over specs all they want.”

    Quote of the motherfuckin’ year. Stick this one in a plaque folks, we’re done for 2014!

    #61 6 months ago
  62. Fin

    @60

    Dude, playing at 60 is a faaaarrr better experience. Seriously.

    Again:
    http://boallen.com/fps-compare.html

    #62 6 months ago
  63. Dragon

    This alt account thing needs to stop.
    Although, you can easily guess who it is.

    @62,
    I checked that, but I am not sure if its far better. Its better though.
    Just my opinion.

    #63 6 months ago
  64. X14EVR

    true I dont even care about fps really i have a gaming pc thats really powerful and has the 60fps setting and when i put on my xbox and pc at the same time i cant even tell the difference when 30fps on xbox looks better anyway 60fps is to fast.

    i think fps is just a word that you pc and sony gamers made up to make you think your console is better when in fact it is not

    #64 6 months ago
  65. Fin

    @64

    “i think fps is just a word that you pc and sony gamers made up to make you think your console is better when in fact it is not”

    Trolling’s a fine art, but you went too far here :P

    #65 6 months ago
  66. Dragon

    ^He is an alt account. Quite easy to guess who.

    #66 6 months ago
  67. CyberMarco

    @66 Why are you “afraid” on calling out people? Or better yet, why do you hesitate?

    #67 6 months ago
  68. Hcw87

    Man, the PS4 fanboy gloating is massive in this thread. If this was so obvious from the start, why bother reacting this way whenever there’s a story like this? It’s like we finally have proof just now that PS4 will handle multiplats better and you have to rub it in just for good measure. Kindergarden mentality.

    #68 6 months ago
  69. gomersoul

    Hey I took 7 years of bashing from xbots, now my loyalty is paying off I’m gonna enjoy it for all its worth! Ps4 ftw

    #69 6 months ago
  70. CyberMarco

    @68 I don’t care what console is better or not, but that’s very hypocrite of yours to say something like that regarding Sony fans.

    lol xbots! :P

    #70 6 months ago
  71. Hcw87

    @70
    Uhm what? Read the very first post in here.

    If anything, people should want the consoles to be as good as possible, as competition only makes things better for us gamers. I’m sure there are some dumbass fanboys out there wishing MS/Sony will go bankrupt or something, but that would not be a good thing for gamers at all.

    #71 6 months ago
  72. CyberMarco

    @71 I’m not referring to this particular post, but attitude in general to bash Sony/defend MS at any given opportunity.

    But whatever keeps you happy I guess…

    #72 6 months ago
  73. Dragon

    @67,
    Because I have no proof.

    But since you asked, see from end of last page, when the guy first appears. It should give a good idea of who it is. I think I am guessing right, but in the end, its just a guess.

    #73 6 months ago
  74. Hcw87

    @72
    Feel free to link a single post where i’ve bashed Sony.

    #74 6 months ago
  75. CyberMarco

    @74 I’m not that bothered to search for any link, but that Microsoft/Machinima, you said something that it’s just common practice, while it’s clearly not. And by that I mean to don’t say anything about being a paid promotion, non-disclosure agreement and stuff like that…

    I’m sure other users must have something similar to say…

    #75 6 months ago
  76. Arcnail

    You really would have thought they would have made these consoles powerful enough to play locked in 1080p, 60fps games. It should have been baseline.

    If that was too expensive, they should have just waited. There’s still a ton of life in the PS3/360.

    #76 6 months ago
  77. Kuwabara

    its a last gen game with minor updates, id expect it to run at 120 fps at the least.

    #77 6 months ago
  78. Panthro

    They really need to stahp beating around Lara’s bush and just admit the obvious.

    #78 6 months ago
  79. The_Red

    Funny how Square’s updates calls 60fps “gravy”. Unlike resolution, 60fps is actually an important gameplay element as seen in games like Burnout , Call of Duty and pretty much anything on a decent PC.

    #79 6 months ago
  80. OneLifeCycle

    Personally, I like seeing XBone suffer from lower spec hardware. Karma from their horrendous roll-out of the system, their policies, backtracking of policies and outright arrogance – all while trying to force the Kinect on every one of their loyal gamers.

    Congrats Microsoft! Your “gaming” console is second best at playing the games people want to play (and that’s because there’s only two worth considering here)! But I can channels surf cable on it!!! YAY!!!!!

    #80 6 months ago
  81. fearmonkey

    Wow….It seems someone posting on here is a fan of the baloney misterxmedia and his “insider”s keep preaching. Dual layer MB that will be powered by optimization and it’s only half performance, secret GPU, etc etc.

    As a Xbox Fan, I realized the fact the PS4 was more powerful long ago, and I own a PS4 because of it. No amount of optimization can overcome the fact that one console simply has a more powerful GPU and faster Ram. If optimization could fix it all, then none of us PC gamers would need anything past a mid range video card because they could simply optimize it, right?

    Give it up already, it’s $500 for a less powerful gaming console that gives you better motion controls and a better multimedia experience. it’s what it is #dealwithit.

    #81 6 months ago
  82. Spider Law

    I dont have a problem with either 30 or 60fps, even though i would prefer 60fps either way. But still, the FPS for this game shouldnt determine whether to buy it or not.

    My problem is the people saying there isnt much improvement. Yeah, ok. There are tons of improvements and if you cant see them, i feel bad for you because you will be missing out.

    #82 6 months ago
  83. raftos

    @47 and 49

    This?

    http://www.giantbomb.com/xbox-one/3045-145/forums/x1-esram-dx-11-2-from-32mb-to-6gb-worth-of-texture-1448545/

    It’s promissing, but ps4 will still be better.

    #83 6 months ago
  84. Legendaryboss

    Another thing not to care about for certain reasons.

    #84 6 months ago
  85. raftos

    According to Anandtech, Tomb Raider on High Quality, 1920×1200, runs at 73fps using a Radeon HD 7870 and at 40fps using a Radeon HD 7770. Considering they’re almost the same GPUs used on PS4 (7870) and X1 (7770), but with less shaders, I think these numbers are what we should expect.

    #85 6 months ago
  86. SplatteredHouse

    “On the other hand, the PlayStation 4 build will attempt to hit 60 fps as often as possible, and does a pretty good job of doing so, but does have slight dips under 60 fps during certain scenarios.”” It was confirmed in a GamesRadar livestream by executive producer Scott Amos.”
    DEVELOPER UNCHAINED
    …oh god! Noooo! He’s broken free of his handler! :p

    Publisher (cowering) “Anything beyond 30fps for this version is gravy.”

    #86 6 months ago
  87. Kalain

    I do remember, reading on here and other sites, when the 360 had a better FPS than the PS3, the Sony owners where saying FPS didn’t matter. Now, all of a sudden, it does matter. People have a really short memory when it comes to their blind fanboyism for their device of choice.

    But really, does it matter?

    #87 6 months ago
  88. Dragon

    @86,
    Which makes even more sense considering how TR DLC released first on 360.
    Its just PR funded by MS money.

    #88 6 months ago
  89. _LarZen_

    @60 Gamers care.

    #89 6 months ago
  90. OmegaSlayer

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BerB0ttIEAAFbbu.jpg

    #90 6 months ago
  91. Xbone

    I love how they say “who cares”. They are so cute :D

    #91 6 months ago
  92. Djoenz

    Havent you noticed how a lot of these sources say one thing first and different things later. This is marketing and hype. They are on top of this. Either deliberate statements or dumb fuck ups which I really doubt.

    I can not trust the interwebz anymo. Tsk.

    They will probably both end up with 60fps.

    #92 6 months ago
  93. dontbescaredhomie92

    @91 If you look at the update you muppet you’ll find the developer doesn’t care, such a cute little fanboy aren’t you :)

    #93 6 months ago
  94. kisame

    hahaha the next gen is still to bee seen yet peoples are talking big

    I guess when GTA 6 will come out and will run 25 fps on both then they will say who cares this looks insane oh dear

    #94 6 months ago
  95. dtyk

    @92

    It’s deliberate. You can’t just come out and say things that damage the image of your business partners. Especially when that business partner has enough money to bury you 3 times over.

    #95 6 months ago
  96. Spider Law

    @87
    Except with Xbox 360 and PS3 it was usually a difference of 3-5 frames, which doesnt make a huge difference (rather small) and it wasnt a consistent frame rate difference. Now with Xbox One and PS4 we are seeing a difference of 10-30fps which makes a big difference, and its consistent.

    #96 6 months ago
  97. NECR6MANCER

    so will there be a multiplayer for this as well? making a all new leader boards

    #97 6 months ago
  98. Tormenter

    @73 DRAGON… your name goes first in the hopes that you are still around to read this in the comment stream so early.

    This fucking comment here…

    “But since you asked, see from end of last page, when the guy first appears. It should give a good idea of who it is. I think I am guessing right, but in the end, its just a guess.”

    Considering that I am the only only one who posted after him on that page, and that is what you are getting at.. I take it you are calling me the alt. That’s not a guess.. that’s a fucking wild stab in the dark, with shit all to back it up except the buzzing in your head…

    Get your fucking facts straight before shouting your mouth on things like that….I don’t give two fucks what people think of me, let alone enough to hide behind different accounts.. WANKER…Sorry, cowardly wanker… Next time you have something to say, say it instead of hiding behind your words because you’re too shit scared that you’ve got it wrong..

    #98 6 months ago
  99. Spinergy02

    So I picked up a copy of this game for Xbox One today and must say…the framerate is far closer to 60fps than 30fps. I haven’t noticed a lick of stuttering so far and everything is very smooth. Thanks for the previous speculation, though.

    #99 6 months ago
  100. Phoenixblight

    @99

    Anecdotal =/= Fact. People will wait for DF to do a comparison with actual video and analysis than someone saying they played an unreleased game and it being “far closer to 60fps”.

    Especially with your clear bias for the Xbox One.

    #100 6 months ago
  101. Spinergy02

    @100 There was no edit. Gamestop is already selling the game.

    Edit: (this is how I edit my comments, by the way) If you want, my nick here is my Xbox gamertag. Check out the game I’m currently playing if you need proof.

    #101 6 months ago
  102. Phoenixblight

    Its not released until next week and it doesn’t matter as I said anecdotal is not fact. Any person can tell a story.

    #102 6 months ago
  103. Spinergy02

    @102

    http://www.videogamer.com/ps4/tomb_raider_definitive_edition/news/tomb_raider_definitive_edition_release_brought_forward_in_us.html

    “Tomb Raider: Definitive Edition is available to buy now in stores across North America, multiple user reports claim, days in advance of its official release date.”

    http://www.gamestop.com/xbox-one/games/tomb-raider-definitive-edition/113245

    Unlike many users here I’m not much for speculation. There is your proof that the game is out, and you can obviously check my gamertag to see that I’m currently playing Tomb Raider: Definitive Edition on Xbox One.

    Edit: Just for you, I’m about to record a clip of my current game.

    #103 6 months ago
  104. Phoenixblight

    @103

    Its irrelevant whether its been prematurely released or not. No person is going to bother listening you bang on about how its “closer to 60 FPS”. You have no evidence other than your hear say to prove otherwise. Digital Foundry will do a comparison and when they do there will be cold hard facts on the matter. For all we know you are just a Xbot trying protect your precious.

    Edit: Make a video but know this Youtube only plays videos at 30 FPS. Thanks for playing.

    #104 6 months ago
  105. Spinergy02

    @104

    http://puu.sh/6wZ0D.mp4 I used Xbox Record Now to capture a clip. Uploaded to skydrive and then puush. The point of the video is that you should probably check some other sources before you spout old information. The release date was pushed up.

    #105 6 months ago
  106. Phoenixblight

    @105

    *cough* http://www.polygon.com/2013/8/5/4591972/xbox-one-game-dvr-720p-30-fps *cough*

    Keep arguing about the game being pushed on its release as I said its pointless. It has nothing to do with the argument.

    #106 6 months ago
  107. Spinergy02

    The point wasn’t to prove actual framerate. You stated earlier that the game wasn’t released.

    #107 6 months ago
  108. Phoenixblight

    @107

    I said it was unreleased. Which it is as the official release date is the 28th. I was arguing about your claim about it being 60 FPS. I could care less about people having it right now because a few stores went ahead and sold it.

    You are like a broken record. I never denied that gamestop wasn’t selling it.

    #108 6 months ago
  109. Spinergy02

    You obviously didn’t check my sources showing that the release date was pushed forward and that it is available for purchase. Anyways, I’m going to go play some Tomb Raider. You guys can keep arguing about the framerate being 30fps on Xbox One.

    #109 6 months ago
  110. Phoenixblight

    @109

    I did nor do I care as it has nothing to do with this article or the argument against Xbox One version being subpar.

    #110 6 months ago
  111. Spinergy02

    @110

    Shouldn’t you wait until Digital Foundry officially compares the two, since as of now you have nothing official to go off of? Also, good job on going back and ninja editing most of your posts.

    #111 6 months ago
  112. Phoenixblight

    @111

    I only edited for clarification. My point still stood and was the same only that much clearer.

    “Shouldn’t you wait until Digital Foundry officially compares the two”

    That is exactly what I said. You came in this article claiming the Xbox One version was 60 FPS when I said DF will have videos and actual analysis so it was better to wait.

    #112 6 months ago
  113. justerthought

    There is a lot xbox frustration in this comment section all arguing about nothing. The frame rate is the issue. Who gives a toss if someone got the game early. It’s still 30fps. If you are not happy, complain to those who caused the problem. MS made the lame console, so get angry with them. You don’t gain anything arguing with people who have PS4 because we are happy. I’m just glad Crystal Dynamics had the sense not to gimp the PS4 version to match the lame XB1 version. That would have been wrong.

    #113 6 months ago
  114. Spinergy02

    @112

    Your first reply to my first comment on this article was originally that I did not have a copy because the game wasn’t even out yet. I never stated it was running AT 60fps, but it was much higher than 30 and closer to 60. Anyone that has played video games for a few years should be able to easily spot 30fps and 60fps.

    @113

    The game looks gorgeous regardless that it’s probably running a bit slower than PS4. I’ve put in a couple hours of gameplay and still haven’t noticed any hiccups or obvious drops so I’m very happy with it. They did a great job with the voice commands, but I could care less about their usage of the kinect (you can lean to change POV in certain situations). Also, I wasn’t targeting PS4 owners with my comment. Merely stating that the game runs great on Xbox One regardless of if running at a slightly lower framerate (and definitely not 30fps).

    #114 6 months ago
  115. Phoenixblight

    @114

    Lrn2Read

    “Anecdotal =/= Fact. People will wait for DF to do a comparison with actual video and analysis than someone saying they played an unreleased game and it being “far closer to 60fps”.

    Please point out where my argument was about the game not being out. I told you what unreleased means as the game is not officially out. Only select stores selling it as a large majority still have January 28th for release date.

    #115 6 months ago
  116. Spinergy02

    Your ORIGINAL comment, not the edited one. This community would be so much better if you guys would stop editing your posts after someone points out your error. It seems to be common practice here from what I’ve seen so far.

    #116 6 months ago
  117. Phoenixblight

    @116

    The only thing I did remove was saying you had edited your post when in fact you didn’t just posted another comment on a similar article. I deleted like 4 words.

    #117 6 months ago