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New BioShock game possible if Irrational falls in love with another idea, says Levine

Wednesday, 9 October 2013 11:49 GMT By Dave Cook

BioShock: Infinite director Ken Levine has said that Irrational Games would make another entry to the series if it fell in love with the right idea. If not, he has suggested that another studio would probably have a crack.

The quotes come from this Reddit ‘Ask Me Anything’, in which Levine and lead level designer Andres Gonzalez answered fan questions about the game.

When quizzed about the possibility of another full BioShock title from Irrational and why he moved away from Rapture in Infinite, Levine replied, “I think it actually has a lot in common with the first game. I’ve said in a bunch of interviews that we had to step back when we started working on this game and say “What makes a BioShock game?”. If it was Rapture, there would be no Irrational BioShock game coming out now.

“After a lot of soul searching, we determined it was a) The game takes place in a world that is both grounded in reality and fantastical at the same time. That world needs to be more detailed than any other game world out there. b) The combat has to have a strong improvisational nature, with a suite of player tools that lets everyone approach combat differently.

“In terms of more Irrational BioShock games, it’s way too early to say. It will ALWAYS be dependent upon us having an idea that we’re in love with and excites us. IF we don’t have that, I suspect it would be another studio making one, if there was one to make. But I can’t imagine doing it if we weren’t in love with the idea.
I didn’t work on Bio 2, so I wouldn’t change anything.”

Would you like to see more BioShock adventures? Would it have to be an Irrational joint or would you be keen to see what another studio could bring to the table? Let us know below.

Meanwhile, you can watch the first five minutes of BioShock: Infinite – Burial at Sea here. Beware spoilers though.

Via OXM.

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17 Comments

  1. SameeR_Fisher

    I like Irrational approach to Bioshock, having different adventures in epic places, Rapture, Colombia, I hope they get another idea and take us to another awesome world.

    #1 1 year ago
  2. Pytox

    Bioshock X Disney? ;D

    #2 1 year ago
  3. YoungZer0

    Do something new. Airshock was boring. A game with a good story that doesn’t rely on some plot-twist would be interesting. Because right now all people are doing is wait for the plottwist.

    @2: We already have Bioshock Infinite.

    #3 1 year ago
  4. AmiralPatate

    Idea: Bioshock… IN SPAAACE!

    #4 1 year ago
  5. monkeygourmet

    I really hated Bioshock Infinate. Columbia was a cool city, but there was almost zero interaction with the inhabitants or scenery.

    So, so dull. It just felt like one horde mode after another held together by a flimsy story.

    It really felt like they scrapped alot of the game halfway through and cobbled together some gameplay to make a final product…

    #5 1 year ago
  6. Pytox

    @5 i didnt like you could only have 2 main weapons :(

    #6 1 year ago
  7. Docker Al

    Most over rated game this year. Dull gun-play and a weak story with an abysmal ending. I feel genuinely cheated by the gaming media that hyped this up.

    #7 1 year ago
  8. TheWulf

    That’s kind of the tragedy of BioShock though, innit? You have this amazing, atmospheric, beautifully designed location plucked right out of someone’s dream. In the first ten minutes you can see how this could be one of the most incredible games you’ve ever played, something that’ll stay with you for decades. And then, so quickly, it devolves into witless shooting galleries, gore, violence, ad schlock writing.

    why

    I want to hate Levine for that. At the very least he deserves to have his head flushed down a toilet, so that the soothing swirling toilet waters might purify him of his OCD attachment to FPS games. All you need for an FPS is some idiot space marine and a spaceship, or a modern day marine and some exploding buildings. You do not, you do not need a setting as mesmerising as Columbia or Rapture. You do NOT.

    How do you turn something glorious, with a brilliant atmosphere, something engaging that could be remembered for decades to come, and then quickly turn it into garbage? Ask Irrational, they’re apparently taking classes on this, and it turns my stomach.

    I’ve recently been replaying Uru via Myst Online with a friend.

    I’ve been soaking up the atmosphere, living it, loving it, being immersed in it, reading the notebooks, absorbing the lore, basking in the truly stunning places they’ve created for me to walk in. A game so powerful that it has me attached to a 3D model, no longer a 3D model, now a creature I go back to visit every year.

    ilu Shroomie

    Usually a game can slide by if it has a lot of things I like. I tolerated Skyrim because it was nice playing as a werewolf character, but I didn’t enjoy it in the same way that I enjoy Uru, because it’s all about killing things.

    So, riddle me this? why

    What I’m getting at here is that every open, amazing setting we have lately has been all about us wanting to prove our manly, male superiority by boning people with guns or swords. What’s the bloody point? I’m confident enough in myself that I don’t need that kind of power fantasy to get by. In Skyrim, I spent most of my time just running around as a werewolf and exploring, using a mod that stopped people freaking out at me being one, as I just wanted to explore.

    So much violence. Here is an amazing world! Think of the things you could do! Think of the millions of possibilities. Now let’s toss those possibilities out of the window and go kill shit.

    Yeah, killin’ shit!

    Are we sure we’re not all crazy sociopaths? Sometimes I do wonder.

    But you have something like BioShock and it’s… you know, why? Why? You have such an amazing setting, and it could have been so memorable, so legendary, it could have been something that would have been history rather than having been forgotten amongst the annals of history. All that potentials, ruined! Ruined because killin’ shit is popular.

    Yeah, I can’t help but despair. Can you honestly blame me?

    We have so, so, so many games with brilliant settings where all we do is kill shit. And kill more shit. And then more. We have puzzle games, sure, but the forte of most of those isn’t story, or setting, or world, which are things that I crave.

    That we have so many killing simulators, and that something like Infinite had to be a killing simulator, and that we have so few games like Uru? I think that says something about us and our hobby.

    I’ll let you figure out what that is. Or deny the truisms here, whichever.

    #8 1 year ago
  9. YoungZer0

    LOUD NOISES!

    #9 1 year ago
  10. dizzygear

    Add me to the list of people who thought Bioshock infinite was a massive disappointment.

    Dumb gameplay mechanics like having a weapon upgrade system while you can only carry 2 weapons and you have to swap them all the time rendering the whole upgrade thing pointless if your in a area with enemy’s that dont carry the guns you upgraded.
    And lets not forget the tacked on plasmids, uh, vigors. I played the game on hard and i got by with only crows and lightning. The rest of them just felt meh.

    The story was ok but felt poorly paced. And half the plot was hidden away in audio logs which sucked IMO.

    I think they should take a break from Bioshock instead.

    #10 1 year ago
  11. archaven

    Ken Levine should look at Dishonored gameplay.

    #11 1 year ago
  12. fearmonkey

    Add me to the list who absolutely loved Bioshock Infinite and the other two games. Those three games are part of the best of this generation.

    #12 1 year ago
  13. Pitts

    @8- I haven’t had the time to dive into Infinite, but the dilemma reminds me heavily of Dishonored.

    I found the lore and lifestyles of Dunwall much more fascinating than a bunch of offensive weapons and a revenge quest. I can stare at the art in the game for hours and the most fun for me was blinking around trying to avoid everyone, though I did find turning the tables on Daud’s assassins pretty amusing.

    Beyond Myst I don’t know too many games that cater to the explorer except tangentially.

    #13 1 year ago
  14. Jonathan42TD

    I’m a big fan of the Bioshock franchise, and to me, the first game will always remain as the best one among the three. I was surprised with the changes in Infinite like the weapons system, the type of vigors, and the enemy classes.

    To be fair, I also didn’t like the fact that I could only carry 2 weapons, as opposed to 6 or 12, depending on the variations of the same weapon you could find. All in all, I was happy that they made several (and sometimes very direct) mentions to the first game, since it all makes sense up to a certain point. I’m not mad with Levine with his take on the latest game, but I do see that he wanted to strive for something different as to what many people where expecting from a Bioshock experience.

    I can’t wait to see Rapture AGAIN with the upcoming DLC, and I hope they give us more on the whys, whats and hows of raptures society, given that a lot has been explained through audio diaries from the first two games, there still remains a few things to check and find out.

    @4- Love the idea, a lost city floating in the depths of space +1 :)

    #14 1 year ago
  15. BrahManDude

    PLS NO i was disappointed but go back to make System Shock 3 and fix the combat which was broken

    #15 1 year ago
  16. animekid

    Jesus fikin christ why won’t you people stop complaining! If you dont like the game tuen dont keep blabvering like a bunch of greedy 10 year olds! I personally liked this game and yes it did had some BS in it but was verry entertaining to me. You dont have to keep saying why you hate the game, ITS A FUKING GAME!

    #16 1 year ago
  17. swaggerbeast

    If it was in SPACE it would be awesome

    #17 1 year ago

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    Destiny PvP will shake things up next week with a new way to slaughter your mates in the Crucible. Destiny is already a skilled PvP game, but the new Inferno playlists will turn things up a notch with a focus on “basic gunplay”. The first of these, Inferno Control, kicks off on March 3 and […]

  • First-person camera coming to Guild Wars 2 next month

    ArenNet has announced its adding nonrestrictive first-person view to Guild Wars 2. Here’s what top expect come March 10: First-person Camera: Zooming in all the way will allow players to experience a first-person view. First-person mode is available while standing in place, walking, running, jumping, playing PvP and just about anything else. There aren’t any […]

  • Shadowrun Online signs on with Nordic

    Shadowrun Online has been given a nice little boost thanks to a distribution deal with Nordic Games. Shadowrun Online is a new team tactical RPG from Cliffhanger Productions. Although it’s already available through Steam Early Access, Nordic has agreed to distribute the finished version, which is due on Linux, Mac and PC in the second […]

  • Final Fantasy 15 is 60% finished, game world ten times the size of demo

    Final Fantasy 15 is 60% finished, according to director Hajime Tabata. Speaking with IGN, Tabata said development will kick into high gear once the Episode Duscae demo is released. “It’s about 60% now. People may look at that and say ‘well, you’ve only done five more percent!’ [since 55% in September] but it’s actually a […]

  • Destiny: you don’t need to visit the tower to access your vault

    Destiny players, you asked for it and Bungie has delivered it: you can now swap items in and out of the vault using the companion app. “Destiny needs more vault space” you cry – and yes, this is true. But while we all struggle with the limitations imposed on us by Bungie, we face all […]

  • Mortal Kombat X will contain over 100 Brutalities

    During the Mortal Kombat X stream today, NetherRealm Studios revealed Brutalities are back for the game, and stated there will be over 100 to pull off. You won’t gain any extra experience for being overly cruel with your painful moves, but you will at least get to laugh at some and “cringe” at others, according […]

  • Numenera: Strand is a film based on the game up on Kickstarter

    Numenera, the 2012 Kickstarter success and foundation for Torment: Tides of Numenera, could become a film if the Kickstarter for the movie is successful. With five days left, Monte Cook Games and Swedish film company Valdes/Eriksdotter needs £22,542 to reach its goal. Titled Numenera: Strand, it tells the tale of a drifter who “roams a […]

  • Gran Turismo 6 update adds MINI Clubman Vision, more

    A Mini Cooper has invaded Gran Turismo 6 via a new update. The Mid-Field Raceway track has also been added, and its a new and improved version of the original track from previous Gran Turismos. The new B-Spec Mode feature has also been added which allows the AI driver to race on your behalf. Additional […]

  • Nintendo is bringing New 3DS Xl and some playable titles to PAX East

    Nintendo is bringing New 3DS Xl and Splatoon with it to PAX East next month. The E3 2014 build of the game lets eight players transform into squids in a race for “splattered-paint dominance.” Code Name: S.T.E.A.M. will also be playable and featured in stage presentations at the Nintendo booth. Upcoming or newly released Nintendo […]

  • Battlefield Hardline Premium information seems to have slipped out early

    Battlefield Hardline Premium perks have apparently leaked a bit early, according to a post on Reddit. Over on the Hardline subreddit is an image which was take at a GameStop location, noting two week early access to content additional Battlepacks and more. Here’s the rundown: Four expansions Two weeks early access 12 additional Battlepacks Exclusive […]

  • Final Fantasy: Record Keeper arrives in the US this spring

    Final Fantasy: Record Keeper will be released in the US on iOS and Android this spring, DeNA and Square Enix today. The mobile titles allows players to “relive favorite moments” across all Final Fantasy installments and build a team of classic characters from across the entire franchise. If you sign up for email updates, you […]

  • Battlefield Hardline now available for pre-order, pre-download on Xbox One

    Battlefield Hardline is now available for pre-order and pre-download on Xbox One. You can pre-order it now from the Xbox Store and once you have paid for it, you can start your pre-download. Battlefield Hardline releases on March 17, and will be made available to pre-downloaders come 12.01am EDT. Check pricing and availability for your […]

  • Dying Light interactive video allows you switch between day and night

    A new video for Dying Light has been released, which allows you to hit the Z key to change between day and night. Titles Life and Death in the Quarantine Zone, the interactive story video showcases how the game changes between day and night. Daytime and nighttime are shown side-by-side but the z key allows […]

  • Havoc DLC for Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare out on PS3, PS4; PC delayed

    The Havoc DLC for Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare is now available for PlayStation 3 and PS4. Havoc contains the four multiplayer maps Core, Drift, Sideshow, and Urban along with the AE4 directed energy assault rifle, its custom variant, and the Exo Zombies cooperative mode. You can purchase the DLC separately or pick up the […]

  • Here’s a teaser for Resident Evil Revelations 2: Episode 2

    A teaser video for the second episode of Resident Evil Revelations 2 is available, so if you’ve yet to play the first episode, you may want to skip this. Resident Evil Revelations 2′s first episode is out now. Thanks, GamesHQMedia.

  • North American eShop update is full of Donkey Kong games

    Nintendo has updated the North American end of the eShop with Titan Attacks, Donkey Kong Land, Donkey Kong Country and more. eShop on 3DS Ironfall Invasion Titan Attacks! Donkey Kong Land – Virtual Console Donkey Kong Land 2 – Virtual Console Donkey Kong Land 3 – Virtual Console Luv Me Buddies Wonderland Around the World […]

  • Venture into the Valley of the Yetis next week in Far Cry 4

    The next batch of Far Cry 4 DLC, Valley of the Yetis, releases in March and Ajay Ghale will be tasked with surviving violent cultists and the mythical Yeti. Apparently the cult is looking for a secret hidden in the valley, and Ajay has discovered their motives. The DLC features co-op with a friend taking […]

  • The Butcher’s AK/CAR Mod Pack out for Payday 2, has dino masks

    The 19th DLC pack for Payday 2 title The Butcher’s AK/CAR Mod Pack is available on Steam from today. The pack will run you $4.99/€4.99 and features: 11 new weapon modifications for the AK rifles in the game 11 new weapon modifications for the CAR rifles in the game Four new masks together with their […]

  • Battle Chasers slated for PC, consoles; comic picks up where 2001 storyline left off

    Darksiders creator Joe Madureira and Vigil co-founder Ryan Stefanelli have confirmed a Battle Chasers game and a new comic are in the works at their new studio Airship Syndicate. Speaking to Polygon, Madureira and Stefanelli wouldn’t provide details on the the game, but did divulge it will be an adventure RPG with player-controlled Battle Chasers […]

  • Shovel Knight, Hotline Miami 2 discounted for Sony’s annual Spring Fever Sale

    Sony is hosting its annual Spring Fever Sale which runs for eight weeks and features a new title each week. The sale starts next week on March 3 with the launch of Helldivers. Here’s just a few items included in the sale: HELLDIVERS (PS4/PS3/PS Vita) March 3 Hotline Miami 2: Wrong Number (PS4/PS3/PS Vita) March […]

  • The gold Super Mario amiibo is a Walmart exclusive

    The Super Mario Gold amiibo which surfaced via a CPSIA certificate earlier this month will be a Walmart-exclusive, Nintendo has announced. The gold-colored Mario amiibo will be released the same day as the Mario Party 10 game for Wii U and will run you $12,96 at 3,000 participating Walmart stores in the US. Along with […]

  • Here’s an overview trailer for Final Fantasy Type-0 HD

    As new gameplay overview trailer for Final Fantasy Type-0 HD, culled from the Active Time Report, stream has been sent over by Square Enix. The video provides a look at the history and environments of the Kingdom of Orience; the 14 memebers of Class Zero; the battle system with customizable magic spells; and the ability […]

  • Final Fantasy 15 video gives you a look at the game’s wildlife

    A new video shown by Final Fantasy 15 director Hajime Tabata during the latest Active Time Report, contains a look at the game’s wildlife and ecology. You can watch the full stream two hour stream through here, or a smaller clip courtesy of GamesHQMedia below.

  • Lionhead ventures into the free-to-play space with Fable Legends

    Fable Legends will be free-to-play when it launches on PC and Xbox One. According to Lionhead, the one versus four cross-platform title borrows from MOBA games such as Dota 2 and League of Legends as it will contain free, rotating heroes which will be added to a roster for a two week period. Once the […]

  • Win! 5 pairs of tickets to the Call of Duty European Championships

    We have five pairs of tickets to giveaway for the Call of Duty European Championships, taking place in London this weekend. The event takes place this Saturday February 28 and Sunday March 1 at the Royal Opera House in Covent Garden. Winners can watch teams will go head to head for a $10,000 prize pot […]

  • Republique Remastered has released on Mac and PC

    Republique Remastered, which was announced earlier this month, is now available for Mac and PC. The game is 20% off through Steam, GOG and the Humble Store for $19.99 until March 4. Thereafter, it will run you $24.99. The Remastered edition contains all five episodes of the game, with 1-3 available now and the remaining […]

  • LA Cops coming to Xbox One in March

    Isometric shooter LA Cops is coming to Xbox One on March 13. Already on Steam Early Access, the game looks like it’s been heavily inspired by Hotline Miami. Walk into a room, open fire, leave bloody puddles in your wake. It’s being published by Team 17. Check out the video below for some 70s cop […]

  • We have $500 of Steam Wallet funds to giveaway!

    We’re giving away 10 Steam Wallet prizes worth $50 each to VG247 readers, courtesy of Bundle Stars. All you need to do to be in with a chance of winning $50 Steam credit is to enter your details below. Join the Bundle Stars Steam group for entry in the sweepstake, and gain extra entries for […]

  • Lapsed Final Fantasy 14 players tempted back with 10 day freebie

    Square is offering lapsed FF 14: A Realm Reborn players a chance to come back to the game for 10 days worth of free adventuring. Provided you’ve already bought and registered an account you’ll be able to play free of charge from Feb 27 to March 9. Square wants you to sample the new content […]

  • Advanced Warfare: Sledgehammer looking at “opportunities” to recreate classic Call of Duty maps

    Sledgehammer Games has told VG247 it’s looking at opportunities to recreate classic Call of Duty maps in Advanced Warfare. According to co-founder Michael Condrey, players of the latest Havoc DLC are asking how Exo abilities and verticality can be added to classic franchise maps. “We’re taking a look at some opportunities to really highlight the […]

  • GTA Online reader playlist week 7: and the winner is…

    Stuff was shot. But only one player emerged victorious. GTA Online player e031271 won last night’s VG247 reader playlist, beating myself, Matt and regulars solidorwot and Revolting. Congratulations, Mr e031271. A deserved victory. We play a GTA Online playlist in an open session every Wednesday on PS4, because it’s both funny and fun. Anyone’s welcome […]

  • Leaked screens reveal The Reef as Destiny’s new “social space”

    A handful of leaked Destiny screens seem to confirm that The Reef location will be the new social space in Destiny. The new addition is likely to be revealed as part of the upcoming House of Wolves expansion. Reddit user Megamanexe4 dropped the screens on the site earlier this morning, along with grabs that reveal […]

  • Darksiders creator teases Battle Chasers game

    Joe Madureira, creator of Darksiders, has released art that strongly suggests a Battle Chasers game is in the works. Battle Chasers was a comic book from the late 1990s that suffered notorious production problems between issues and was never finished. Madureira formed Airship Syndicate after the collapse of THQ, where he co-created Darksiders. His latest […]