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Bowling: I-Ward will “not rely solely on platform security” after PS3 crack

Monday, 17th January 2011 09:56 GMT By Johnny Cullen

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Infinity Ward community head Rob Bowling has said that it will no longer solely rely on the first-party security of consoles, following reports that Modern Warfare 2 online stats were affected on PS3.

PS3 Modern Warfare 2 players have reportedly had their stats hacked and, in some cases, fully deleted.

The news comes after PlayStation 3 was fully compromised by hackers this year.

One user on the IW forums described the situation as “horrible, just horrible”.

“Games rely on the security of the encryption on the platforms they’re played on, therefore; updates to the game through patches will not resolve this problem, unless the security exploit itself is resolved on the platform,” said Bowling.

“Regretfully, Call of Duty games are receiving the bulk of the hackers’ attention, due to its high player counts and popularity. However, the number of legitimate players severely outweighs the bad apples.

“If you are concerned about playing with players who are hacking, I encourage you to play exclusively with friends by utilizing the party or private match options in Modern Warfare 2 and Call of Duty 4 to avoid such players as much as possible until this issue is resolved by Sony.

“Let me assure you, while we are very reliant on Sony updating their firmware and security to address the core problem of this issue. We are looking at EVERY option available to us to help any user affected.”

Bowling concluded: “This only applies to legacy games such as Call of Duty 4 and Modern Warfare 2.

“In the future we plan to adjust our approach to not rely solely on platform security and reduce the ability for this to happen in our games, as has already been displayed by the work Treyarch has done on Call of Duty: Black Ops to prevent similar measures.”

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34 Comments

  1. Joe Anderson

    Sony need to sort this out, otherwise the PS4 may be here sooner than they thought.

    #1 4 years ago
  2. The1stMJC

    Call of Duty was being hacked way before the security codes were broken who the fuck knows how bad it will be hacked now.

    #2 4 years ago
  3. Blerk

    That sounds really bad. Bit crap of Acti just to wash their hands of it, though – surely they could do something?

    #3 4 years ago
  4. Erthazus

    It’s impossible to do something really. Console hacked in it’s full glory. You have access to everything.

    It’s a company’s fault if they had a security codes inside the machine. That security code must be in Kutaragi’s brain, safe, Sony’s headquarters.

    To close something like that you need a redesign of old SKU and have a completely new OS.

    Sony is screwed here completely. You can’t fix this. Just can’t.

    #4 4 years ago
  5. Razor

    Sony have completely dropped the ball.

    But there’s no solution. There’s obviously going to be no PS4. They’ll just have to try to contain it.

    God knows how though. Would not want to be at Sony right now.

    @Erthazus, the codes weren’t in the PS3. Hackers worked it out because of the botched random number implementation.

    #5 4 years ago
  6. where

    Playing for fun and with friends? No problem than…

    #6 4 years ago
  7. Erthazus

    They can even decript future games with binary security codes. But who cares if they will be hacked in about… 2 days?

    With this shit, if they will not win the Hotz and overfl0w shit, they can soon just sell their 1st party stuff to other companies. Sony is a primary target of all hackers right now.

    This is a really serious shit down here and Sony is making some seriously tough decisions.

    @Razor, thats exactly called a security codes inside the machine. They worked their assess off to have them.

    #7 4 years ago
  8. Erthazus

    Maybe Sony have something up their sleeve, but they wait for that to happen when they can win Hotz and overfl0w stuff.

    It’s just they didn’t do much after 3.55

    #8 4 years ago
  9. Razor

    Erthazus, unless I’m misunderstanding what you’re saying, the PS3 absolutely did not have the private key in the machine or in the firmware. But because the random number was a constant, the hackers were able to do simple (apparently…) Maths to work out what the private key was.

    If the public-private key system had have worked properly i.e. having a random number instead of a constant, then the PS3 would not be in the position it is now, and the private keys would not be public.

    #9 4 years ago
  10. OrbitMonkey

    Ahh crap, just what you need, arseholes fucking up online play for shits & giggles :(

    #10 4 years ago
  11. anuekr

    Why the fuck Sony isn’t sewing GeoFuck and throw his douche ass to jail?

    #11 4 years ago
  12. KrazyKraut

    its idiotique…look what problems you had on pc or mw2 on 360. blaming ps3 for security is just what Activision do because they dont like the PS3 so much. (what they often said)

    #12 4 years ago
  13. NinjaMidget

    I’ve heard it’s more than just leaderboards and profiles being hacked on MW2. Teams are starting out with 1 bullet in a clip, people on the other team aren’t dying etc.

    Not that I care much for MW2, but some basterd on AC: Brotherhood was running about the map, invisible to other players. It completely ruined the game.

    Perhaps now I’d be justified it calling Geohot a wanker!

    #13 4 years ago
  14. Razor

    Don’t blame Geohot, blame Sony.

    It’s simply their fault, no question about it. If they’d have implemented cryptography as it’s supposed to work, the PS3 would not be in this postion.

    #14 4 years ago
  15. get2sammyb

    Are we sure this is to do with the hack in the first place? I’m not really sure I understand how running custom code can affect OTHER PLAYERS in the same game. If the hackers were giving themselves unlimited ammo and stuff, I could understand it. But how are they able to TAKE AMMO AWAY from other players on legit systems?

    #15 4 years ago
  16. get2sammyb

    @14 – Thing is, mistakes happen. Yeah, it’s a big blunder, but Sony kept the PS3 secure for four years already which is some achievement in the scheme of things.

    The way I see it, it is GeoHot and the other team’s fault. If they wanted homebrew they could have got it and kept it to themselves. They would have got what they wanted. Releasing the keys has opened a can of worms, where there are far more negatives for the legitimate playerbase than there are positives for the small minority of people who want to run SNES emulators and grab XMB images.

    Unfortunately, the scale of their ego looks like it’s going to affect the rest of us for some time. That’s really disappointing.

    I’m still not convinced there’s nothing Sony can do though. Maybe they can’t stop the problem entirely, but I’m sure they can make it difficult and awkward for the hackers, which might be enough.

    I agree we’re getting new hardware this year though.

    #16 4 years ago
  17. NinjaMidget

    @15 Good point, I have no idea how hacking works in the slightest! I was just putting it down to the fact that this stuff didn’t start happening until after the hack.

    #17 4 years ago
  18. Blerk

    Someone has to be the ‘host’ for the game, surely? So if the hacker’s hosting, he can do what he likes, yes? That’s a complete guess, btw. :-D

    #18 4 years ago
  19. DEADEYES

    Hahhahaha, finally games on consoles need protection not from the system, but from itselves -> that’s means we’ll see “crack” for console games not so far, PC gamers now can laugh! =))

    #19 4 years ago
  20. Blerk

    Video. Nasty!

    #20 4 years ago
  21. Rhythm

    For stuff that I play online with friends this isn’t really a problem but it seems to have royally fucked up Demon’s Souls and promises to devastate TDU2 next month :-(

    #21 4 years ago
  22. EscoBlades

    Yes Blerk.

    #22 4 years ago
  23. Psychotext

    Users running around with admin level rights in a multiplayer game… fun.

    /smh

    #23 4 years ago
  24. OlderGamer

    The solution is Onlive(or some other cloud based gaming).

    Physical hardware can be hacked.

    Basicly everything happens on your system and then gets reported/displayed at the server side of the service like xbl/psn/steam. But, if the whole game was hosted and played server side, and highly highly encrypted … might be a solution.

    I just beat Fear 2 on Onlive this weekend. The service plays flawlessly. Zero lag, maxed out graphics. I played on a laptop that can’t even run Titan Quest on low settings.

    Maybe what these hackers are really showing us is that the traditional model of gaming is obsolete? Maybe new thinking is in order. Making a new Playstation isn’t going to solve anything, it will just get hacked too.

    While I don’t feel that the PS3 hacking in this case will spell doom for PS3, it didn’t kill xb360, I think it could get out of hand. Esp if the hacking targets the actual services of PSN and XBL. I stoped playing WoW because both of my accounts have been repeatidly hacked.

    In the end it maybe something live Cloud. or it may be something that games become DD only and must be online verified before, during, and after playing so the proccess can be monitered closer. Hacking is far more sophisticated then it used to be. And we aren’t playing Offline SP SNES games anymore. It certianly a challange for the game industry.

    Maybe some good will come out of it, maybe some of the NA price fixing will lighten up. If it drives prices down, could be a silver lining.

    #24 4 years ago
  25. McLovin85

    Hopefully Sony can just ultimately ban these users and their PS3s from PSN so they can’t play online this would cut down the numbers of hackers/cheaters etc. straight away.

    It’s just that Sony haven’t been in this situation this generation so it will probably take a bit of time before they have set up a process for doing this.

    #25 4 years ago
  26. Yoshi

    WTF??!!! The Wii and Xbox have been hacked too f**k since launch and now because the PS3 has finally been hacked everyone is only JUST realising its not a good thing?!!!

    #26 4 years ago
  27. Kuwabara

    This is great news.Hopefully all those idiots can move to a better game, KILLZONE3!

    #27 4 years ago
  28. Keivz

    Wait, Demon Soul’s has been affected? I was planning on getting that game, too. Is the online experience now ruined?

    #28 4 years ago
  29. Lord_Rahl

    This is old news. This same thing has been going on with the 360 for a long time now so why now have all the fuss?

    Sony started a war they thought they could win when they decided to cripple people’s consoles THEY own by removing other OS. That was Sony’s way of shooting a salvo over the hackers head saying “hey you can’t touch me”. All the hackers wanted were to have their Linux and homebrew and they could care less about piracy or game cheating. However the process it took to get the ability back on their console that they paid for resulted in what you see now with the cheaters and such.

    I 100% support people who want to do whatever the hell they want with the hardware they paid their hard earned money on. How many of you would like if their TV manufacture came into your house and removed your TV ability to play MTV because they don’t like rap? Or how about they remove Fox news because they don’t like conservatives?

    That is what Sony did to ALL OF YOU! It does not matter if you could care less about homebew or Linux the point is that they have decided that none of you own that nice expensive peace if hardware sitting in your living room that you enjoy playing your games on. I don’t know about you but I don’t like ANYONE telling me what I can or can’t do with something I bought and paid for and nether should you. For now it is inly game consoles and some electronics. Where will it end?

    There is a thing called consumer rights and that is being taken away from you one small piece at a time and you all should be pissed.

    Again this all started because Sony was afraid someone would load an nes emulator on Linux that someone legally installed onto their consoles hard drive. Now it has leaded into what we have now.

    Sony’s only recourse is to instant ban every PS3 that loads homebrew, pirated software, and game cheats. To this end I totally agree with Sony doing this and HOPE they start implementing it right away. THESE MODIFIED CONSOLES DO NOT BELONG OS PSN or Live for that matter on the 360 side of things.

    BUT DAMNIT DONT EVER TELL ME WHAT I CAN OR CAN’T DO WITH MY CONSOLE OFFLINE!

    #29 4 years ago
  30. LOLshock94

    wtf why is everyone crying like bitches about a fucking company that doesnt give a shit about you or the workers fucking idiots yous all are. and its not like everyone is going to use these mods and shit so grow some and suck is

    #30 4 years ago
  31. lexph3re

    Hehehe…. ^someone doesn’t understand the user agreement they agreed to when they took their console online do they? Its a difference between modding your console and never going online. But, the moment you go online your subjected to a completely new user agreement.

    Also, t.v takes away from us all the time. Lol. Rememeber the whole digital t.v conversion. You were told “hey, buy a converter or new t.v or you can’t watch these free public channels!” Anything you don’t make your subjected to the “creators” terms. Removing the os on ps3 was not a huge deal the only people it really effected was the air force and I think they let them keep that feature.

    But, since your so against people telling you you can’t play what you buy. How are your views on buying a 60 dollar game and the realise you can’t access the multiplayer unless you pay for the online service? Or how about when you buy internet from a cable provider they cut the basic cable you received because its in the internets cable cord?

    A business doesn’t ask for people to hack, or steal from them. They actually do ask that you don’t mistreat or use the product that they supply to you. All you can do is accept it or not.

    #31 4 years ago
  32. Lord_Rahl

    lexph3re, Why do you assume just because someone buys a console that they want to take it online? How does one accept a user agreement if they dont want a PSN account?

    As I said people who use PSN should never change their consoles ability to do anything other than what Sony wants them to do because they did agree to such a contract. People who break their contract should be banned. But had Sony not taken that first step in this war those losers who think they must cheat to play on PSN would not have that ability now.

    And your analogy about an outside source of content changing their broadcast signals don’t apply. Now had you said that Universal Studios came into my house and told me that I can’t play a DVD that I bought because they are afraid I may play it for my neighbors when they visit then that would apply.

    If console manufacturers want to dictate what you can or can’t do with their hardware then they need to change their business from selling their consoles to renting them. If they want to dictate their terms of use to a consumer then make sure nobody can ever buy their console and only rent it for a monthly fee.

    Again this all comes down to Sony’s actions that resulted in this mess.

    #32 4 years ago
  33. XxT_I_K_IxX_PR

    Instant banning problem solved.

    #33 4 years ago
  34. mackb0lan

    LMAO. Bowling is a fag. I can’t believe anyone pays him.

    #34 4 years ago

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