Wed, Oct 08, 2008 | 09:26 BST
Ubisoft creative director: “Piracy’s basically killing PC”
Ubisoft Shanghai creative director Michael de Plater has told VG247 that a PC version of EndWar would most likely be shipping alongside the console SKUs if it wasn’t for rampant PC piracy, and that copyright theft is essentially destroying the PC games market.
“To be honest, if PC wasn’t pirated to hell and back, there’d probably be a PC version coming out the same day as the other two,” he said, talking of the voice-controlled RTS.
“But at the moment, if you release the PC version, essentially what you’re doing is letting people have a free version that they rip off instead of a purchased version. Piracy’s basically killing PC.”
We asked if piracy was the main reason to keep EndWar off PC.
“Yeah, at the time of release,” he said. “You know, the level of piracy that you get with the PC just cannibalizes the others, because people just steal that version.”
De Plater also told us that a PC version is likely to be released further down the line, as reported yesterday.
Tom Clancy’s EndWar does appear to be very good, from what we played of it. Looks as though you’re not going to be leeching a PC version for a while yet, though. You know who you are.



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#51
Psychotext
09/10/08, 12:03 pm
Herlock: Yet somehow 360 games still sell millions. Somehow I doubt they’re that concerned about the 360 piracy issue in comparison to the PC.
#52
G1GAHURTZ
09/10/08, 12:21 pm
“You cant expect from somebody who are making 300$ a month to pay 50$ for every game.”
IF YOU DON’T HAVE THE MONEY, DON’T PLAY THE GAME!!!
I can’t afford a Bugatti Veyron, but you won’t hear me complaining that it should be perfectly fine for me to steal one, do you!!??
Ever heard of having a little patience and saving up enough money to play a game??
In fact, you’re only making your own problem worse, because the more that you steal games, the more the price will go up.
So when there finally is a totally fool-proof DRM, you’ll definitely not be able to afford ANY games.
#53
Psychotext
09/10/08, 12:24 pm
G1GAHURTZ: Pretty much. I can’t afford high class hookers. Doesn’t mean I go around sexually assaulting models.
#54
G1GAHURTZ
09/10/08, 12:26 pm
LOL
#55
Herlock
09/10/08, 12:39 pm
@Psychotext
Yu can found Fallout 3 on internet now and not on PC so…
#56
Psychotext
09/10/08, 12:46 pm
So what? Maybe 5% of 360 owners have their machines hacked… if that. Pirated PC games are available to anyone with a PC and a net connection.
#57
XDamage
09/10/08, 1:00 pm
Well I’ll be… It’s every hacked 360′s birthday today.
#58
vezon
09/10/08, 1:58 pm
“IF YOU DON’T HAVE THE MONEY, DON’T PLAY THE GAME!!!”
As I see dont understand the hole point. If you dont play a game or play it for free it doesnt alter the INCOME.
I dont say the piracy isnt a bad thing, but its the main problem in teh PC Gaming.
Do u think that the movie industry is in decline? Or microsoft loosing money?
#59
G1GAHURTZ
09/10/08, 2:30 pm
Actually, it does affect the income of both the publisher, and the developer.
If you’d spent 18-24 months or more working on a game, I’m pretty certain that you’d expect to get paid for it. You’d probably also hope for some nice bonuses if you’d made a really good game too.
Where do you think that that money comes from??
It comes from people who actually buy games! So what you’re actually doing is taking full advantage of the end products of the games industry without putting anything into it.
Your effectively not only stealing from the people who make the games, but also from the people who actually spend their hard earned money on them too.
If no-one bought any games, then Activision would have no money. They couldn’t even borrow it from a bank, because the bank would say ‘no-one buys games, so you won’t be able to pay us back.’
If Activision had no money, they couldn’t afford to give IW the $6-8 million that they need to pay their staff wages, pay the rent, overheads, other bills, etc.
So basically, the only reason that games are made the way that they are today is because of the people who actually buy them. Activision got their money from selling games!
Without these people who actually BUY games, you would have no games to play because no publishers would have any money to give to the developers, and the developers wouldn’t be able to pay any wages, so no-one would make any games!
If you want to say; ‘that’s ok, I don’t mind. I’m not hurting anyone.’ Then you’re wrong.
You’re wrong because every $50 game that you pirate is another $50 that isn’t going back to the people who made the game.
If you really wanted to play those games, and you didn’t pirate them, then I’m sure that you’d find a way of raising the $50 to pay for them.
Which is the whole point.
Every single pirate copy of a game that someone owns and plays is money lost for both the developers and the publishers of that game, because if you couldn’t get it for free, then you would only be able to play it if you could buy it.
At the end of the day, if you don’t want to pay money for games, then you shouldn’t play them.
#60
m3nAc3
09/10/08, 3:59 pm
@G1GAHURTZ
I agree with you in pretty much everything you said, with few exceptions… Of course piracy is a crime, and basically it’s theft. But not all of the illegal downloads are possible customers. Research must be taken that proofs how much of money is really being lost. Until then, no one can say for sure that piracy is the main reason for someone to go in bankruptcy.
Let’s set an example: I’m Rpg fan from the very beginning (Fallout, Baldur’s Gate, Planescape: Torment etc i have them all on my shelf.), and we all know that Fallout 3 has just been made gold. There is no demo. In my country, new games, from store, will cost you 70$! Also you must take into consideration that there is a big possibility that this game will be crap, or at least it won’t be a real successor of the original series. In best case scenario it would be great, but there is risk, and if you don’t have money to throw around you will download it for free via torrents and see what the game really is. If the game is great, I will buy it in store, if the game is crap, I will uninstall it from my computer and never play it again.
So am I a thief, or am I just being careful?
If you think that it would be better to buy the game in any case. In the end you would have one dissatisfied customer, with possibility of five more (my friends etc.). So is it better for Bathesda, in this case, to have one dissatisfied customer, or five more…?
On the other hand it would best for Bathesda that they have made a really great game, and not “Obilivion with guns”…
About anti piracy protection – it’s not working. And it never will. Every anti piracy protection will be broken, and so what is the result?
The result is that you have millions of people, who bought their copy of the game absolutely legally, totally dissatisfied because they are treated like criminals from companies witch live from them.
On one hand you have normal people, true fans, who are regularly buying original games, and for their thanks they are being molested by different anti piracy programs. On the other hand you have people that never bought original game, and never will, but they don’t have any problems what so ever with anti piracy programs, limited numbers of installation, and who knows what else…
So I ask you, where is the sense in that?!
#61
blackdreamhunk
09/10/08, 4:44 pm
There is as much pircay on consoles too. I just found this link today. I found out about your site yesterday. I had to say something!
http://www.videogamer.com/news/09-10-2008-9606-1.html
http://kotaku.com/5044010/capcom-explain-r4-lawsuit-participation
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Weekend-Reading-Fighting-Against-Piracy-91313.shtml
http://www.edge-online.com/news/activision-sues-alleged-cod-pirate
looks like console games get pirated too
#62
G1GAHURTZ
09/10/08, 4:48 pm
“So am I a thief, or am I just being careful?”
Sorry fella. There’s no excuse for that. If you are genuinely just trying to asses the quality of the game, and will genuinely buy it if you find to be a good game, then that’s at least better than someone who never pays for games.
However, that’s not the only way to find out if a game is good or not before you buy it.
Why not just read the reviews?
You can check sites like Metacritic and Gamerankings to see what professional games reviewers think of the game.
You can check blogs, forums, Youtube vids, etc to see what the overall opinion of a game is.
That’s what I do.
Sure, I’ve bought games that I’ve hated after buying them, but when I went back and read the review again, I’ve seen all of the issues that I had with the game mentioned in the review.
Sometimes I’ve been really keen on getting a game before release, but then after reading bad reviews, I’ve saved my money and not bought it.
Fracture on the 360 is the most recent example of this. Actually, I only decided to get Fracture because of the Demo, which was quite good, but when I saw the reviews that said the the whole thing was repetitive the whole way through, I decided against it.
So demo’s and playing the first few levels of a game doesn’t always work!
I’m not saying that you’re always going to agree with the press opinion of games, because there’s always someone who disagrees with something.
I mean, could you imagine someone just walking into a cinema through the back door, watching the first 20 minutes of a film, and then deciding whether he wanted to pay for it or not??
It’s totally unnecessary. If you buy a bad game, then ‘fanboy blitz’ it to death on the net, and the company will suffer for it.
There’s no need to support illegal torrents and promote their use at all.
“On the other hand you have people that never bought original game, and never will, but they don’t have any problems what so ever with anti piracy programs, limited numbers of installation, and who knows what else…
So I ask you, where is the sense in that?!”
Well I could just as easily say that the only reason that those people who buy the game are treated like criminals…
Is because of the criminals!
If it wasn’t for pirates in the first place, then I’d say that no developer would see the need to put any protection on their game other than something simple like a serial number.
If people want that stuff to go away, then they should stop pirating games.
#63
m3nAc3
09/10/08, 7:07 pm
@G1GAHURTZ:
, on condition you buy the original in case you liked it. It’s a gray area, but I understand the people who are doing it.
Yeah, your right mate. But it still stands if you want to be 100% sure, you can download it via torrents
I don’t believe some of the reviews, but hey thank god for metacritic and game forums…
Let’s go back to the subject. When some big companies (like Ubisoft, Crytek and others) declare that “Piracy is killing PC”, in other words, they are losing a whole lot of money, it should be expected that they provide some proof for that kind of statements. You know, it’s in their best interest…
So why there is no proof for that kind of statement, because it’s lame excuse to go on console market and make much more money. Some people will say – that’s the real proof that PC market is corrupted by piracy… And people who say that are ignorant to say the least. You can’t compare PC with Wii, Play 3 or Xbox 360. Not because PC is better or something, it’s because it’s much more complicated as a gaming platform than consoles (it’s more single guy exp.). So consoles will always be easier platform if you look at it that away. And more attractive to regular customers. In the age of SNES, games on PC were nothing special (in comparation with SNES), a Nintedno made it’s name because of that console. But no one will now say that SNES was a success because of piracy on PC market.
About piracy protection. I should have said that this kind of aggressive anti piracy protection we have now, is contra productive for the publishers who make a living of this industry.
Cars are also being stolen. And they have alarms against burglars too. But you can enter in your car, and alarm will not kick you in the balls, smash your teeth or something like that…, of course under excuse that it was “thinking” that you were the burglar…
#64
G1GAHURTZ
09/10/08, 10:37 pm
lol. When the SNES came out, the internet was relatively unknown amongst most people, and the people who did know about it were using 16k modems and the like!
At that time, piracy pretty much involved copying your mates 3.5″ discs using xcopy or something similar.
These days all you need to do is type the name of the game that you want into Google, followed by the word torrent and you’re away.
It’s true what you say about gaming being easier on console though. I personally think that PC gaming will eventually disappear in the future as everyone turns to consoles for their gaming needs.
The way that I look at it is this…
I could buy a £1000 PC that can play the best games now, but probably won’t be able to play most of the new games in 3 years time. Or I could buy a console for £150-£300 now, and in 3 years time, the games will be better than they were when I bought it.
Simple choice as far as I’m concerned. (Even though I have a decent gaming PC at the moment.)
Anyway, the reality is that in this case, the proof for the claim about piracy killing PC GAMING could only ever be circumstantial.
But that doesn’t mean that it’s any less valid.
I suppose that without a Minority Report style ‘Pre-crime’ system, no-one could ever prove or dis-prove that little ‘Joey Pirate’ would or would not have bought a game if he wasn’t able to download it for free.
But I think that it’s enough for a company to spend about two years working hard on a game, and then see the thing plasetered all over bittorrent the day after it went Gold.
Then what happens is that if the game doesn’t sell well, the first thing that gets the blame are the pirates.
See here for a perfect example.
I see what you’re saying about copy protection affecting those who wouldn’t even think of pirating. But I still say that the real people to blame for that are the people who scared the developers into coming up with it in the first place.
#65
vezon
10/10/08, 7:06 am
@Gigahurtz
copy protection existed and will exist many years, its engineering fault if its affecting the real customer.
NO, the free play doesnt affect the income (there was given countless of example which prove that).
And no its not the same with stealing a Bugatti Veyron. If u manage to make a copy of it, that’s case is identical to this. U heard somewhere that a guy was sued because he made a replica?(I’m not talking about selling replicas)
As I see u cant comprehend the fact that there are MANY MANY MANY people out there who cant afford to buy games, they barely manage to upgrade their computer to be in midbudget even if there passionate gamers. I am talking about East Europe and Asia, those big numbers of downloads are coming from that directon. THEY ARE NOT POTENTIAL CUSTOMERS.
I wanted to mention before but wroted both comments in a hurry, if publisher would give another option to countries like them to buy the game from the internet with less, lets say 10-20$ and from those downloads 50% would pay that fee that would make a good profit, but oh no, the case its exactly the opposite.
so the solution is making replicas.
It is a false statement to say that the console have better income because of the piracy, actually is because more people are moving to consoles, even if its hindered by the lack of controlers like mouse.
#66
Shatner
10/10/08, 8:38 am
Let’s go back to the subject. When some big companies (like Ubisoft, Crytek and others) declare that “Piracy is killing PC”, in other words, they are losing a whole lot of money, it should be expected that they provide some proof for that kind of statements. You know, it’s in their best interest…
As I already stated (but you choose to ignore) it is impossible to provide proof of things that don’t happen. When you stop acting like you’re the good guy for stealing other people’s products and think objectively, just HOW would you propose a company present quantifiable proof of sales that haven’t occurred due to people stealing their products?
Furthermore, the stance that the THIEF should be demanding proof of the effects of their actions is ridiculous. You’re not in the right. You knowingly steal products instead of buying them. You have no right to act like you’re the party being hard done by. You attitude in playing the victim is absolute nonsense.
I could ask YOU for proof that you buy games after you ‘assess their worth’. When do you choose to decide to buy the game? I mean after you’ve played it so long to decide “Hey it’s great!” you’re more likely to continue to play the freebie than to suddenly get an attack of the morals and spend some of your money on paying for something you (mistakenly and illicitly) believe you already own.
And what if the game’s fun wears off on you? Do you then, after hours of playing, decide you’re bored of it and don’t need to pay for it at all?
No. Sorry. The perpetrators’ attempts to make their theft sound like a “try before you buy” scheme doesn’t wash. There will be endless excuses as to why you never felt it was worth parting with cash for the game you already stole.
And let’s not forget – games are not subject to some arbitrary escrow service that the thieves like m3nac3 decided to invent. Their ‘worth’ is stuck on the outside of the box with a little “£” sign in front of it. If you don’t agree with that then you don’t get the product.
IF YOU TAKE SOMETHING WITHOUT PAYING FOR IT YOU ARE STEALING FROM THE PEOPLE THAT PRODUCE THE PRODUCT.
M3nac3 – you are a thief first and foremost. Legally, you are a pirate. You have no moral argument. You have no justification. YOU are a big reason why game prices are at the level they are.
Legitimate business don’t need to justify their businesses and revenues to thieves m3nac3. You’re under some ridiculous notion that you’re the one being wronged. You’re not. YOU are the guilty party. YOU are the problem.
What’s laughable is that you acted offended when there was the insinuation that you might be a software pirate. Except, by your own admission, you ARE a software pirate. What a telling state of affairs eh? You seem to depend wholesale on your belief you’re a victim when, in fact, you’re the one committing the crime.
Sorry. All your arguments are worthless.
Vezon, if people can’t afford LUXURY goods like videogames then they have to grasp the notion that’s stood for centuries: YOU DO WITHOUT.
Your argument suggests that people are ENTITLED to videogames whether they’re in a position to pay for them or not.
Not so.
If this was about healthcare, food, clean water then your argument might make some sense.
But we’re talking luxury goods. If you can’t pay for it you do without.
As usual, the pirates and thieves are spinning this as a case where they’re the victims and their ‘only option’ is to steal. No. The real option is YOU DO WITHOUT.
The comparison about recreating a car is not even remotely accurate either. If, perhaps, pirates re-DEVELOPED every single line of code and remade every single audio and graphical asset that the hundreds of programmers, artists and designers had taken years to produce THEN they would be copying something in the same context as you presented.
They don’t. They sit on the fat asses and click a mouse a couple of times and then they go off to the internet to whine about how hard done by they are and what poor victims they are.
EVERY SINGLE JUSTIFICATION for piracy I’ve ever heard is fatally flawed because the thief believes they are the victim or that the manufacturer doesn’t need the revenue or that they have some entitlement to things they either can’t afford or refuse to pay for.
Piracy is grim. But the incessent spin that greedy thieves present in some attempt to suggest their consistent law breaking and stealing is a reasonable (even charitable) act is fucking atrocious. Pirates are bad. “Moral” pirates are just scum.
#67
vezon
10/10/08, 12:38 pm
The comparation with replicas is prety accurate just the balance between inteligence property and manufacturing cost is different. You only stole the first part.
THEFT is THEFT nor matter the circumstances, even a LIE is THEFT. And I never make justification that anything is rigth with THEFT.
I only stated that “piracy is killing PC” is false.
And the solution for piracy is not inventing some ridiculous protection which affect customers, almost any protection can be beat, or make excuses like this to dont make games. If its not profitable its profitable dont do it, piracy wont change that.
I even agreed with this kind of movement against piracy, if they can put some moral questions in possible customers, but I think its weak to base some propaganda on false statements. There are better ways, even mentioned one.
PS. I even wonder if you never played a game without paying in your entire life.
#68
m3nAc3
10/10/08, 5:02 pm
@shatner: Are you reading this…, I know you do…, now I want you to take a step back… and literally fuck your own face!
(tnx for this Les)
Real thief were your parents when they conceived brainless monkey such as yourself…
“As I already stated (but you choose to ignore) it is impossible to provide proof of things that don’t happen. When you stop acting like you’re the good guy for stealing other people’s products and think objectively, just HOW would you propose a company present quantifiable proof of sales that haven’t occurred due to people stealing their products?”
In this world you can get statistical information of how many flies dies in one hour around the world. And your are telling me that it’s impossible to find proof about piracy damage?! Because you can’t imagine it, so the conclusion is: it can’t be done…
Now I want you to take a step back… and literally fuck your own face!
(tnx Les)
I don’t play PC games as much as I used to. I got three games installed on my computer right now: Neverwinter Nights Platinum, Neverwinter Nights 2, and Mass Effect. All three I had bought legally in store. My friends are looking at me in kind of a weird way, the look that’s saying: why did you buy it when you could have it for free? They don’t understand that I truly believe in supporting developers when I buy their game. And I liked to watch them on my shelf.
So when some douche bag calls me a thief because I was talking about hypothetical situations, and I was trying to explain that the world isn’t in black and white colors, and on top of that he doesn’t even know me in real life to make such accusations, I say to him:
Now I want you to take a step back… and literally fuck your own face!
(tnx Les)
About anti-piracy protection, cars are the perfect example. They are luxury goods, more than any video game will ever be. And they are being stolen at an incredible rate. But if you want to buy decent anti-burglar alarm, you must buy it separately from regular equipment you get with your car. I don’t suggest any similar thing with video games.
So I will say it again because I think I didn’t get any fair explanation: “you can enter in your car, and alarm will not kick you in the balls, smash your teeth or something like that…, of course under excuse that it was “thinking” that you were the burglar…”
And when we are at it: car company will not ever try to limit your car on only three drivers…
Yeah I know, you can’t copy a car as well you can copy a video game, but you sure in hell can you easily steal it. If you are a professional witch big game pirates are, or in my example big game car thief, there is no difference. It’s easy in both cases. And there is no protection that will stop them.
So in the light of that, why can’t I install Mass Effect more than 3 times on my computer? I bought it legally, why can’t I do it. It’s not because of pirates (as Gigahurtz said), It’s because of greed. Human greed – that is all what’s this is about. Human greed people. They don’t want you to borrow your game to your friends, or something like that, because they will maybe (and this is a big maybe) loose some money because of it.
And on other hand you have “big bad piracy” problem witch is perfect example of a scape goat.
But I’m a nice guy, I don’t believe that Ubisoft, a large multinational corporation, would ever lied to us. Because corporations don’t lie…
And when Ubisoft says “Piracy is basically killing PC” they are basically saying, we want more money, and the console market is the right way to go!
Greed…, nothing else.
#69
st00rm
10/10/08, 5:08 pm
That’s a bunch of BS. The reason PC sales are so low is because PC games are a lot more “demanding” than consolers, what i mean is if you look at the x360 sales one of the most sold games is the one where you press 5 buttons as they show up on screen (Guitar hero or something) which is what the PC had 10 years ago, so don’t expect PC gamers to buy the game, just because they’ll put those 5 buttons on a guitar-looking piece plastic(which you have to pay for).
And as for piracy, well some research says that people that download a game weren’t going to buy it anyway so no money lost there, and the movie piracy is apparently even larger, yet all the movie studios keep on making more and more money.
#70
Shatner
10/10/08, 6:04 pm
“@shatner: Are you reading this…, I know you do…, now I want you to take a step back… and literally fuck your own face!
(tnx for this Les)
Real thief were your parents when they conceived brainless monkey such as yourself…”
Oh. That’s some quality justification for theft. Excellent work!
Sorry, but considering that you’re getting so shirty for being called a thief (which is accurate considering you steal products without paying for them), that you’re pathetic “victim” act doesn’t wash. That, as a thief, you have no grounds to insist anyone prove you wrong (you’re a thief – you’re wrong by DEFAULT).
So now, as well as continuing to ignore EVERY bit of logic and detail that doesn’t suit your corrupt cause you decided to just go slinging insults.
Poor thief. When he gets cornered he just turns nasty.
Sorry thief, you have NO rights, NO sympathy and NO justifications for your actions. You’re GREEDY, SELFISH, IMMORAL and shamefully corrupt.
THIEVES do NOT have the right to demand a company prove that THEFT HURTS TRADE. Of course it hurts trade. You don’t need proof, it’s common sense. You have no rights to demand any proof because YOU ARE THE THIEF DOING THE STEALING. It’s YOU who are answerable to the people, not the other way around. That you can’t (or won’t) see the complete backwards-ness of your whining is excpetionally offensive to anyone with a shred of logic and who isn’t THIEVING SCUM who thinks they’re better than people who DON’T STEAL FROM OTHER PEOPLE.
You’re still trying to make the fact that YOU STEAL FROM PEOPLE into something righteous and proper.
You’re a thief and you’re the worst kind of thief: one that can’t admit that what he’s doing is wrong or even express regret for it.
You steal from PEOPLE I KNOW. You steal from MY FRIENDS. You steal from people I RESPECT.
The fact of the matter is: YOU STEAL. You then squirm about it trying to make excuses for why (unlike ALL OF SOCIETY FOR HUNDREDS OF YEARS) you believe you’re entitled to something without paying its price. All your pleas and stupid attempts at justification are TOO LATE because YOU STOLE FROM PEOPLE FIRST. Don’t you see? You AUTOMATICALLY put yourself into the worst possible position.
STOP STEALING FROM PEOPLE AND THEN MAYBE SOMEONE WILL GIVE A DAMN ABOUT WHAT YOU SAY.
And, even though you can’t admit it you KNOW you’re in the wrong. You KNOW what you’re doing is theft. You KNOW theft is wrong. But you’re too selfish and self absorbed in your own sense of corrupt logic that entitles you to rip off thousands of people’s work and make LAW ABIDING consumers pay higher prices because of the CRIMES YOU COMMIT.
You’re immoral, law-breaking scum and you deserve to be fined EVERY PENNY that your multiple law-breaking offences warrant.
Whatever you do, whatever you say, whatever names you think you can call others – IT DOESN’T MATTER. You’re still worse than ANYONE that you point your sticky little fingers at. You’re a thief. You have no position in any sort of moral argument because you’re MORALLY BANKRUPT. You LOSE by default.
Legally and morally YOU ARE DEAD IN THE WATER. You have no leg to stand on. Because you DON’T make the law. You don’t dictate how trade works. You’re just a selfish thief who wants his luxury goods without paying for them. You’re not a victim. You’re just despicable filth that believes their entitled to STEAL from people. I very much hope someone steals from you and then spits on any rights you believe you have. Karma’s a beautiful thing.
If I ran this site I’d collect your IP address and give it to every games publisher I know and hope they choose to press charges against you.
#71
m3nAc3
10/10/08, 7:17 pm
oooh ooh my, oooh my, such temper… Go to bed honey, momma will get you a cookie, so you will not piss in your pants anymore… It’s okay don’t worry… I know the people who think differently then you can get you so upset, so you yell, and you get all slobber, it’s okey… Momma will tell you a story: It’s black and white world out there, full of fairies, magical gnomes, and colorful dragons, and if you are going to be good boy maybe someday you will live with them… And don’t forget to eat your vegetables tomorrow in school, unless you wanna visit from mister Pirate when you are asleep.
#72
Shatner
10/10/08, 8:25 pm
The world isn’t black and white.
But the world is very clear on what software piracy is. It’s illegal. Its perpetrators are thieves.
That makes you a criminal.
Shrug it off or try to apply your silly efforts to smokescreen what you do as much as you like. But you wilfully and knowingly repeatedly break the law.
You are totally and utterly in the wrong and without any justification to support your actions. You are greedy. You are immoral.
You are not a victim. You and people like you are what damages the industry and raise prices that good, decent, law abiding people have to pay.
You are the problem.
You know this. But your selfishness and pride won’t allow you to admit it. So you carry on your pathetic act and just make yourself more contemptable and ridiculous every time you say anything.
You’re pathetic.
And let’s not forget that earlier in these comments, you suggested offense at the insinuation that you might be a software pirate. What a blatant attempt at manipulation that was! You KNEW the insinuation was accurate but you still went ahead with the charade of mock offense.
I guess, apart from knowing that you’re a thief and a criminal, we can also deduce that you’re a liar too.
Based on your own pride, greed, selfishness (and lets not forget ignorance!) demonstrated in these comments it’s amazing that you think anybody could possibly give a shit about you or your view on piracy.
You’re selfish. You’re out for what you can get and are happy to steal and lie to people to get it.
You’ve condemned yourself in these comments. I look forward to you crawling back under whatever fetid, stenching rock you came from. Nobody cares about you. For those of us that don’t steal and don’t break the law and DO enjoy videogames and DO pay for the games we play (that’s BEFORE we obtain them, not after) it’s people like YOU that cost us money and make our hobby more and more expensive.
Nobody likes you. Go home thief.
#73
deanimate
11/10/08, 2:43 am
scones are, i believe, part of the bread family
#74
Esha
11/10/08, 4:19 am
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Zounds. As bad as I may sometimes be, simply because I’m opinionated and a bit of a contrarian, I can take comfort in the fact that I’ll never be as bad as this thread.
And to be honest, I doubt I’ll be able to take anything said by the names involved with more than a grain of salt, ever again. And I think that’s fair.
Really, I’d rather see this thread talk about scones too.
Can we talk about scones? I think it’s needed.
Anyway. Scones are indeed part of the bread family, and they taste particularly nice with clotted cream and jam, and the whole experience is enhanced with a cuppa. The humble scone makes for a grand breakfast experience, in my opinion. It’s almost right up there with pancakes.
#75
Gamoc
11/10/08, 4:50 am
Indeed, scones are very nice, but I have to say, pancakes are much better. Especially with syrup. Mmm, yes please.
Emotions are certainly high in these comments. Try taking the high road, Shatner, you can’t change him, so ignore him.
#76
wrathfromabove
04/06/09, 6:26 pm
Michael de Plater’s words = RUBBISH.
That whole piracy is ruining the pc thing is getting old. It’s pure bulls**t. Except for the ps3, all other consoles are easy-peasy to hack. Not to mention that selling games as downloads on the pc puts 3 times more $$ in the pockets of devs as console games sold retail. What’s ruining pc gaming? Impossible DRM that forces people to get a *clean* pirated copy and late releases (makes people pissed and unwilling to pay — especially if you add that pesky DRM issue into the equation). Industry hacks: STOP. LYING.
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