Battlefield 4 shipped “with dirt all over it” – Lanning

Tuesday, 25th March 2014 09:19 GMT By Matt Martin

Publishers push incomplete games out of the door to please shareholders – stitching up customers and developers, says Oddworld creator.


“Why did Battlefield 4 ship? You know that team was crying. You know that team knew that game wasn’t ready to go.”

Oddworld creator Lorne Lanning believes that publisher’s continue to publish incomplete triple-A games just to please shareholders, undermining the hard work of developers and the experience of paying customers.

“Fuck that business. I don’t want to play with that business, because it was a losing business,” he said, in an interview with VG247 published today.

“I’d rather not make games than go fucking be a slave for public companies who care more about their shareholders than they do about their customers.”

He pointed to the online problems of recently released Battlefield 4 as an example that profits are more important than finishing a game for publicly traded companies.

Today, DICE has announced that DLC for Battlefield 4 has been delayed, with no new release date given by the publisher.

“Why did Battlefield 4 ship? You know that team was crying. You know that team knew that game wasn’t ready to go.

“You know that team fucking spent a lot of sleepless nights building that shit out to look as good and play as good, when it was able to be experienced, being played as they were intending it to be played. Someone made a decision that the shareholders are more important than the customer. And we see a lot of that. How do you blow that? How do you take that fucking jewel and ship it with dirt all over it?”

The full interview with Lanning, in which he discusses building Oddworld: New ‘n’ Tasty from scratch and developing for the fans, can be read here.



  1. pablo2008jedi

    An honest interview for once. Publishers are scum….

    All you have to do is look a to see what can be done without them..

    #1 8 months ago
  2. dsr

    DICE wasn’t crying. They were laughing, all the way to the bank.

    EA gets a lot of flack, but DICE is the devil here. I have no respect left for those bullshitters. BF3 was broken, no fixes in sight, still same bugs remained in BF4. Like they don’t even care anymore, just sad.

    #2 8 months ago
  3. ChristopherJack

    Maybe major publishers should consider early access deals, slight discount &/or bonus features to early adopters who won’t feel like total idiots because they know for certain that they’re playing an unfinished game. Win-win in my opinion.

    #3 8 months ago
  4. Michael Ireland

    Well if the consumer actually stopped buying these in a broken state…

    Open Access has shown me recently that a lot of gamers don’t actually care about the quality of the games they’re playing. Half finished, barely playable games top the Steam charts all the time.

    There’s no legit reason for garbage like Rust or Day Z to be selling as well as they are. It’s like people get some sort of accomplishment out of dealing with the punishment.

    @dsr, DICE isn’t the publisher. How the heck is it their fault?

    #4 8 months ago
  5. Panthro

    @Michael Ireland

    People like feeling like they have contributed to a games development.

    Saying Rust and DayZ are garbage solely because they are buggy and unfinished is unfair, the games are still in development and in alpha stages I might add.

    All games are like this at one point, TLOU would of been buggy, so would have GTA V, so would alot of good games, they aren’t finished so you can’t really judge.
    BF4 is entirely different though, that game released as a ‘finished product’ so it’s completely fair to call that garbage, what they did was despicable and hopefully they have learned from what they have done.

    I have had tons of fun with both Rust and DayZ, even in the states they are now, the games are constantly changing with the type of stuff I like playing around with. Being in early access is almost like a game itself, I studied game development for a while so I like to see games as they grow.

    #5 8 months ago
  6. ChristopherJack

    @Michael Ireland It’s not just the contribution, that may affect some people’s decisions but the majority just enjoy the game & don’t mind going through a few rough bumps to play it. If they had marketed BF4 as early access people would have been far less contempt with it’s launch, then they could have delayed it until they believed it had reached it’s true finished state for an official launch. The issue here of course is the official launch missing better sales periods with an unknown affect on sales.

    #6 8 months ago

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