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Cage – industry suffering from “Peter Pan syndrome,” needs to “grow up”

Thursday, 16 August 2012 19:48 GMT By Stephany Nunneley

David Cage wants the games industry to “grow up” and start developing mature title which aren’t shooters.

Speaking in an interview with Gamasutra during gamescom, Cage said he believes the industry is suffering from a case of “Peter Pan syndrome.”

“I think we should have more courage in our industry and take more risks, because I think this is what the industry needs now,” he said. “I mean, how many first person shooters can you make? How many monsters/aliens/zombies can you kill in games? There’s a moment where we need to grow up. We need to grow up.

“I often think that the industry suffers of the Peter Pan syndrome. It’s the fact that we don’t want to grow up, so we stay kids. But there is a moment where you need to grow up as an industry. And you cannot keep up with the Peter Pan syndrome. You need to grow. And I think this is the right time.”

Beyond: Two Souls is the latest from Cage’s firm Quantic Dream, and it’s slated for release on PS3 with a date still unconfirmed.

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28 Comments

  1. Razor

    “Related posts

    David Cage wants the game industry to grow up”

    He must still be spinning at 45rpm.

    #1 2 years ago
  2. OrbitMonkey

    You might as well ask for the porn industry to stop being so sleazy. The content is dictated by the audience.

    #2 2 years ago
  3. ManuOtaku

    “I often think that the industry suffers of the Peter Pan syndrome. It’s the fact that we don’t want to grow up, so we stay kids. But there is a moment where you need to grow up as an industry. And you cannot keep up with the Peter Pan syndrome. You need to grow. And I think this is the right time.”
    I almost agree completly if it isnt due the fact that gamers have their inner kids pretty much alive, not that they arent inmature, is that they see things like videogames, cartoons and animes ,like we were little kids IMHO, and for that it will be hard to take that out of the industry, because thats what the main target is, i dont mind killing zombies multiple times if the gameplay, setting and story are different, the same from FPS as long as they add something new, like xotic, zeno clash, bulletstorm, borderladns, i dont have a qualm, because they are very different IMHO, But i understand where he is coming from, i think he means having a more cinematic mature feel into the games and broken that barrier, which is also good, they can co-exist together, but in the end we are like little kids while we play our precious hobby, and if you ask me thats great, we are not getting old in our insde.

    #3 2 years ago
  4. LuLshuck

    How about you do your own shit and let others do there

    #4 2 years ago
  5. Froseidon

    This sounds like he is trying to advertise his own game but in a more subtle way.

    #5 2 years ago
  6. OlderGamer

    I think it will happen as we move forward. Every year the average age of gamers gets a tad older. So do many of the people making the games. I think there will always be room for less mature “Mature” rated games. But there is likly going to be a growing void for games for actual mature gamers.

    #6 2 years ago
  7. M. K.

    Everytime this guy opens his mouth, I can exactly tell, what’s he’s trying to say…

    “Every year the average age of gamers gets a tad older.”

    No not really, the exact opposite is the case ;)

    #7 2 years ago
  8. DSB

    How many quicktime events can you make?

    #8 2 years ago
  9. OlderGamer

    How do you figure M.K.?

    As guys like us age, we don’t stop playing. Trust me, I am not going anywhere. And at some of the ages of readers/posters we are pioneers. Last I knew the average age was 30yrs old.The youngest gamers won’t get any younger, but the oldest ones will get older every year.

    #9 2 years ago
  10. polygem

    maths

    #10 2 years ago
  11. ManuOtaku

    #9 yeah my next gen gamer tag-psn id, wii U account will be oldermanuotaku T_T

    #11 2 years ago
  12. monkeygourmet

    Man pitching new ‘adult exclusive’ video game telling everyone gaming needs too ‘grow up’…?!

    Stop the presses! :)

    Seriously I’m fed up of this awful bullshit style of promoting a game. I enjoyed heavy rain, and I’m sure I’ll enjoy this, but as Dave Cook stated earlier: the gameplay section is basically Ghost Trick on the DS…

    Same as LA Noire was basically Pheonix Wright…

    The sooner Cage admits he’s creating interactive movies the better. It’s a huge step up from the Mega CD games and 7th Ghost, but that’s effectively what they are…

    Not knocking them, but spouting this kind of shite to try and drum up some media interest in your new movie (sorry game), just comes across as a dick manoeuvre and an insult to the huge amount of ‘adult’ games out there if you actually bother looking…

    What he is doing is putting his game on a huge block, which will no doubt be knocked down a peg or two on launch. He’s becoming the new Molyneux…

    Also, saying we need new styles of play is a bit of a piss take since his last 3 games have had very similar themes running through them… This also looks to follow suit…

    #12 2 years ago
  13. OlderGamer

    lol @ Manu ;)

    #13 2 years ago
  14. Hybridpsycho

    Go play The Witcher 2.

    I’m not sure where this guys has been getting his games, but not all games on the market are Call of Duty or Battlefield…

    Compared to what other games there are out there that are really great, I’d say that the generic FPS games are quite a small percentage of what there actually is on the market.
    These are just some of the good games that came to mind that are not your generic shooter and still mature.
    Dragon’s Dogma
    Dark Souls
    Demon’s Souls
    Darksiders 1 &2
    God of War 1,2 & 3
    Assassins Creed 1 & 2
    Enslaved
    Skyrim
    Batman Arkham Asylum / City
    Mirror’s Edge
    Dead Space 1 & 2
    Saints Row 2 & 3
    Dragon Age: Origins (go to hell Dragon Age 2)
    Infamous 1 & 2
    Metal Gear Solid 4
    Mortal Kombat
    Prototype (haven’t played second game)

    Not gonna make a list of ALL The great games that are not FPS, in fact even though I love FPS games they’re far from as many as any other type of game I play.
    Just because CoD and Battlefield has alot of players doesn’t mean they’re the only games out there.

    #14 2 years ago
  15. Kuwabara

    He’s right. People need to stop playing that shit call of duty and developers should ease on fricking releasing generic shooters every year or two. So many greater titles are selling poorly and aren’t getting sequels because of the idiots who only play shooters.

    #15 2 years ago
  16. Phoenixblight

    @16

    Does it ever come to your mind that the people that buy COD just play COD and aren’t exactly willing to play anything else? Publisher are only trying to grab some of that market by making their FPS. It never works because why buy X game when COD does it better.

    #16 2 years ago
  17. Ireland Michael

    >says games need to be more risky and mature
    >can’t write a decent story.

    #17 2 years ago
  18. Telepathic.Geometry

    @15: I don’t think that many games in that list are mature in the proper sense. Of them all, I would say only: Demon’s Souls, Enslaved, Mirror’s Edge, Dead Space 1 and Metal Gear Solid 4 felt mature to me. And despite never having played The Witcher II, it looks mature to me.

    I mean mature in the sense that it’s built with mature adults in mind, not just people who are adults. The Last of Us looks like it’ll measure up too…

    #18 2 years ago
  19. Giskard

    To be fair, most entertainment media suffer from this. The most popular movies are blockbuster action films. The most popular books are mostly detective stories and / or romances.

    It’s a simple thing to get right, and make it somewhat relateable, and people buy it.

    Why should the game industry charge ahead to the greater unknown when more traditional media has managed fine without it? I don’t see movie buffs asking for “more serious films”. They get their share of deep indie love, and then leave the blockbusters well alone.

    There have also been some very good, mature games coming out. The Witcher instantly springs to mind. Walking Dead, to some extent, was quite mature, as it wasn’t a mindless zombie killing simulator.

    As much as I like Cage’s games, he just comes off as a major douche here. There’s no real way around it.

    #19 2 years ago
  20. Ireland Michael

    @19 Mirror’s Edge is a great gsme, but it’s world is so lacking in actual story and depth that it’s impossible to gleam any sense of maturity out of it. Metal Gear Solid is crash, juvenile and pretentious, and the furthest thing from mature that you can get.

    Dead Space definitely sits in the mature category, for obvious reasons. Demon’s Soul has a very serious and mature style about it too. I would probably put Enslaved on the list as well.

    Everything else on that is either immature or obnoxiously violent.

    @20 The indie movies are the “more serious films”. Indie and small studio games tend to fill that same niche for gaming, when it comes to keeping creativity alive in our medium.

    #20 2 years ago
  21. Omelette

    @5 Totally agree. We should not forget this was said in an interview. He’s simply trying to sell his product.

    #21 2 years ago
  22. Telepathic.Geometry

    @Ireland Michael: Yeah, if I thought about it a bit longer, I’m sure I’d come up with a better list. Of course, it’s subjective too…

    #22 2 years ago
  23. Docker Al

    Who does this prick think he is? I like shooters.Don’t try and tell me what I should like.

    #23 2 years ago
  24. Telepathic.Geometry

    Nobody’s telling you anything of the kind. Try reading the article…

    #24 2 years ago
  25. pleasant_cabbage

    I agree with Cage 100% We really do need to bring gaming into a more mature space. I propose that ultra-classy sex minigames be included in the majority of games, with not-at-all creepy shower scenes in the rest. Take that Peter Pan.

    #25 2 years ago
  26. Dragon246

    @Manu,
    +1000000000!!!!

    #26 2 years ago
  27. Da Man

    As an infantine child who read way too many bs books I play testosterone fuelled shooters to stimulate my power fantasies, as opposed to experiencing mature adult art with clever mini games and realistic portrayal of humans.

    I’m too stupid to realize that I ‘m not helping modern artists to leverage this amazing medium.

    #27 2 years ago
  28. Digital Bamboo

    What does it mean to “grow up” exactly?

    If it’s becoming an adult, and therefore more mature, then how would that translate over to the games industry?

    I honestly have no idea. The only examples I can think of would result in either very boring, (Fiscal Responsibility 2012)or very depressing (Downfall: The Game) experiences. Are games not meant to be fun?

    If the future of video games involves Mario settling down, reconciling with his weirdo cousin, & them building a deck together out behind the Mushroom Castle, then I don’t want to have anything to do with it.

    #28 2 years ago

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    Tetris fans have a new western champion. Tetris is one of those gaming obsessions that goes much deeper than you might expect. For example, did you know that some versions of the game assess your performance and over you the chance to become a “grand master”? Turns out that’s a thing, and according to Polygon […]

  • Ken Levine’s next game teased as “sci-fi-ish” small, open-world RPG

    A series of tweets from BioShock creator Ken Levine has shed a sliver of light upon his next project. According to Levine he and his team are considering something a bit sci-fi and contemplating first-person mode. The team is developing the game for PC with a large in scope, expandable, systems-based narrative where more can […]

  • Become a lynx in new Shelter 2 trailer

    Shelter 2 casts players in the role of a lynx, which makes for quite a different experience to the badger of the first game. The first Shelter game had you evading predators, but in the second, you becomes one yourself. That doesn’t mean there are no dangers to face, of course. Judging by the trailer […]

  • Why King of Fighters 13 isn’t coming back to Evo

    Evo, the premiere western fighting game tournament, has dropped support for a few previously favoured titles. King of Fighters 13 had a loyal following, but isn’t featured in the Evo 2015 line-up. “Many things go into what games makes it to Evo, but the most obvious one is, ‘Is the community playing this game?’” Evo […]

  • An average Evolve match takes less than ten minutes

    Evolve players are pretty quick at hunting each other down. Evolve developer Turtle Rock has released an infographic brimming with statistics garnered from its recent beta test. One of the key takeaways is that all three monsters, and all four classes, are working as intended – their performance in game matches Turtle Rock’s designs. If […]

  • Super Mario Amiibo can be pre-ordered on Nintendo UK, Mario and Peach sold out

    The latest set of Amiibo in the Super Mario series is now available for pre-purchase through the Nintendo UK Store. Each of the following sports a red base and will run you £10.99: Bowser, Luigi, Mario, Peach, Toad and Yoshi. It looks like Peach and Mario are both sold out, though. All six can be […]

  • The Music of League of Legends Vol. 1 free to download now

    League of Legends has excellent music, and now you can have it too. The Music of League of Legends Vol. 1 collects 15 tracks from the MOBA’s history, and is available for free. You can grab the music from iTunes, Google Play or via direct download. Tere’s an example track below to get you in […]

  • Super Bowl 49 update arrives on Madden NFL Mobile

    With Super Bowl 49 occurring this coming Sunday, February 1, EA Sports has updated Madden NFL Mobile with new feature enhancements and Super Bowl-themed Live Events. Updates include: League vs League Tournaments Obstacle Course Super Bowl Bonus Players Tom Brady and Richard Sherman Super Bowl Legends Super Bowl Moments Upgraded Auction House The Super Bowl […]

  • See Super Smash Bros.’ unused custom moves

    Super Smash Bros. was originally intended to have 16 custom moves per character. The final version of Super Smash Bros. only features 12 custom moves per fighter, but Nintendo left animations for some of the cut moves in place. A Youtuber called RED has dug these cut mvoes out of the brawler’s code, and displayed […]

  • The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt contains 16 hours of sex scene mo-cap data

    Sex is nothing new to the The Witcher games, and The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt is no exception. In fact, it contains 16 hours of sex scene motion capture data. Giggity. There’s a reason for the bedroom dalliances though, as Geralt is a flesh and blood human, or a modified human at any rate, with […]

  • Here’s the launch trailer for Fahrenheit: Indigo Prophecy Remastered

    A launch trailer for Fahrenheit: Indigo Prophecy Remastered has been released after an Amazon listing was revealed for it over the weekend. Key upgrades include: High-definition Graphics — All of the in-game textures have been meticulously recreated in HD for mobile and desktop. Widescreen Support – A true widescreen (not cropped) view strengthens the game’s […]

  • The open beta for Battlefield Hardline will be dated tomorrow

    The exact dates as well as more information on the Battlefield Hardline open beta will be shared tomorrow. This is according to the latest blog post from developer Visceral Games. “We’ll share the exact dates and info on the Battlefield Hardline open beta tomorrow,” wrote Visceral boss Steve Papoutsis. “Stay tuned, thanks again, and keep […]

  • Upcoming Hearthstone patch to apply balance change to Undertaker

    An upcoming Hearthstone patch will apply a balance change to the Undertaker card, Blizzard has announced. After the release of Goblins vs Gnomes, Blizzard said it kept an “eye on the state of game balance” as more matches were played using the additional cards. Released with The Curse of Naxxramas, Undertaker is considered an overly […]

  • February Games with Gold offers up Brothers: A Tale of Two Sons

    The free games on offer in February via Xbox Live Games with Gold have been announced. Xbox Live Gold members on Xbox One can download #IDARB during February. Xbox 360 users can grab Brothers: A Tale of Two Sons from February 1-15, when it will be replaced by Sniper Elite V2 from February 16 -28. […]

  • Kinguin blames unidentified Russian for deactivated Far Cry 4 keys

    Third-party game key seller Kinguin is issuing refunds to those who found their games deactivated through Ubisoft’s Uplay service. Customers which purchased keys for Assassin’s Creed: Unity, Far Cry 4, The Crew and Watch Dogs are affected. Kinguin said 4,600 customer tickets were submitted over the last 72 hours and 35 out of 3,400 of […]

  • Video Unlimited to be re-branded as PlayStation Video starting in February

    Like Music Unlimited, Sony’s Video Unlimited service is being replaced and re-branded PlayStation Video. PlayStation Video will become part of PlayStation Network to streamline digital services for the over 64 million PSN users. PlayStation Video and PlayStation Music will be added to PSN which is already a destination point for the PlayStation Store, PlayStation Plus, […]

  • Spotify arrives on PlayStation Music this spring, Music Unlimited closing

    Spotify will launch on PlayStation Network this spring as part of a new music destination called PlayStation Music. PlayStation Music is a replacement for Music Unlimited, and those with a PSN account can link to Spotify which can be used just for music, or when playing games on PlayStation 4. Existing playlists from current Spotify […]

  • Closed beta for Alone in the Dark: Illumination starts tomorrow

    The private beta period for Alone in the Dark: Illumination starts on January 29. Those who pre-order the game via Steam, will automatically be included in the beta, enabling them to provide feedback on the first campaign in single-player mode. An additional beta period will be announced in the weeks leading up to launch. The […]

  • Majora’s Mask Special Edition New 3DS XL available once more on UK store

    UK residents who want to get their hands on the shiny Majora’s Mask Special Edition New 3DS XL can once again pre-purchase it through the Nintendo UK Store. If you want one, you better hurry because units will likely go rather fast. Only one per customer is allowed, and once you drop £209.99 on it, […]

  • Nintendo Q3: 1.9M New 3DS models sold, Wii U lifetime sales hit 9.2M

    New 3DS XL has sold 1.3 million units as of December 31, 2014, Nintendo announced in its Q3 financial results today. New 3DS moved 580,000 units by the end of the same period. Lifetime sales of both systems combined total a little under 1.9 million. Combined global sales for current 3DS models available in Europe […]

  • Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare’s exo zombies reanimate a familiar format

    Advanced Warfare’s exo suits manage to bring an undead format back to life. Dave Cook welcomes zombies back to Call of Duty. “The challenges start to spike early so seasoned zombie slayers needn’t worry about being coddled.” Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare’s first DLC went live this week, dropping four very solid maps for multiplayer […]

  • YouTube app and Maps will be removed from PS Vita

    Sony said that it will end support for the YouTube and Maps apps, as well as remove the “near” feature in an upcoming firmware update. Sony has revealed that a system update releasing in March will remove the Maps app and prevent the “near” feature from obtaining location address or display maps, making it redundant. […]

  • There is a Destiny loot cave Easter egg in Dying Light

    Dying Light is the latest game to take a jab at Destiny by having its own loot cave. Destiny’s infamous loot cave has been recreated in Dying Light, sort of. Of course the loot cave in Dying Light is only an Easter egg and doesn’t actually net you any loot. Instead, upon entering it, you […]

  • Resident Evil: Revelations 2 supports co-op in story mode, but only offline

    You can play the campaign of Resident Evil: Revelations 2 in co-op, but not online. 4gamer spoke to producers of Resident Evil: Revelations 2 and made out with a few details concerning story, setting and more. The site confirmed that while you will be able to switch between characters in the single player, and have […]

  • The Witcher 3 may have a permadeath “Insanity” mode

    Although not yet confirmed, The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt developer CD Projekt RED is working on a difficulty mode dubbed “Insanity” that will delete your save if you die. During Monday’s Twitch stream, the developer took a few questions from the chat and we’ve got a bunch of answers. There are many interesting little bits […]

  • Dragon Age: Inquisition is the most successful launch for BioWare, based on sales

    Dragon Age: Inquisition is responsible for the most successful launch in developer BioWare’s history, according to EA. During last night’s EA Q3 2015 earnings call, the publisher said that Dragon Age: Inquisition was the most successful launch for developer BioWare. Today, we get a bit more detail. “In particular, Dragon Age: Inquisition had by far […]

  • Here’s a walkthrough of one mission from Far Cry 4 Hurk Deluxe DLC

    Far Cry 4′s latest DLC pack, Hurk Deluxe, seems like good fun, judging from this video. The Hurk Deluxe Pack was released today on all platforms. It comes with five new missions. The video below takes a look at the “Call of the Wild” mission. In the walkthrough you’ll get to see some of the […]

  • Battlefield Hardline beta date confirmed on Xbox Store

    The beta date for Battlefield Hardline has popped up on the Xbox Store, confirming the rumoured date. The listing for the Battlefield Hardline beta is available for anyone to see right now on the Xbox Store. Granted, it’s for Xbox 360, but unless EA is starting this beta early on Xbox 360, this will pretty […]

  • GTA player flies jets backwards in impressive stunts

    Doing stunts with jets in GTA 5 can be impressive, but it’s nothing like flying them backwards. Making videos of your jet stunts has become too mainstream. Which is why the latest video from YouTube channel GTA5Videos is all about defying that. The video below features some insane stunts mostly done by flying jets backwards, […]

  • CoD: Advanced Warfare balance patch out, System Hack nerfed, HBRa3 buffed

    The latest patch to Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare is here with some major changes to game balance. Making good on the promise to nerf System Hack, developer Sledgehammer Games has released the latest patch to Advanced Warfare to do just that, and much more. The patch is out now on Xbox platforms, with PlayStation […]

  • Grinding three purples in Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel may crash your game [UPDATE]

    Update: Gearbox Software has announced there’s currently a hot-fix in place for Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel as a temporary solution to crashes caused with the DLC update. Until a permanent fix can be made, the hotfix should correct crashing issues. All will be fixed in the next major game update. Original Story A bug that snuck […]

  • Havoc maps up the tempo for Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare

    Dave Cook dons his Exo suit to find the new Havok DLC maps a great change of pace for Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare. Given that Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare places great emphasis on verticality, it’s little wonder that Sledgehammer Games has designed the first of its four DLC map packs with elevation and […]

  • G2A responds to deactivated Far Cry 4 keys debacle

    G2A, one of the third-party sellers that were named in the ongoing episode of deactivated Far Cry 4 keys has decided to release a statement. G2A is a well known third-party key sellers online. Most users know it through its sponsorship deals with many YouTube and Twitch channels. The service sells keys both through its […]

  • Petroglyph’s Victory resurfaces with Korean co-developer

    End of Nations, Mytheon and Grey Goo developer Petroglyph Games seems to have salvaged a stalled project. Victory popped up back in early 2013 after Trion Worlds took End of Nations in-house. Petroglyph’s attempt to crowdfund the unusual strategy title ended in iniquity, but it vowed to do whatever it could to bring the game […]

  • Far Cry 4 Hurk Deluxe DLC now available

    Far Cry 4′s latest DLC pack adds new story missions and a pile of new weapons. Far Cry 4: Hurk Deluxe is now available on PC and Xbox platforms, and is rolling out to the PSN in line with local network updates. The pack bundles five story missions, including Yak Farm, Blood Ruby and Hurk’s […]

  • Yes, Resident Evil: Revelations 2 has microtransactions

    Resident Evil: Revelations 2 has microtransactions, but thankfully they’re not as outrageous as initial reports suggested. The subject of Resident Evil: Revelations 2′s microtransactions arose earlier today with reports filtering out of a European press event that you’ll be able to pay to keep playing after your character dies. The ramifications of this are pretty […]

  • Play mini-games to unlock Magicka 2 content

    Magicka 2 publisher Paradox Interactive has invited fans to earn in-game rewards by playing other games. The Magicka website will host various mini-games in the build up to Magicka 2′s launch later this year on PC and PS4. Playing these games controbutes to a community score total which will eventually unlock in-game content as well […]

  • Deactivated Far Cry 4 keys were purchased through Origin

    Far Cry 4 owners who found their games deactivated without warning may be surprised to learn where they came from. Many copies of Far Cry 4 purchased through third-party re-sellers have been deactivated without notice. Although resellers affected by the deactivations argued that they had made authorised purchases, Ubisoft has denied this. The publisher told […]

  • Will Assassin’s Creed visit Japan in 2016?

    The next Assassin’s Creed game after Victory may finally bring ninja and assassins together. An Assassin’s Creed fan has spotted what certainly looks like a heavy hint that the next game after Victory will be set in Japan. Ubisoft forums member Cornik22 was looking through the Assassin’s Creed 4: Black Flag official art book when […]

  • Resident Evil HD modder aims to restore original, terrible voice acting

    Resident Evil and its early sequels are justifiably famous for their simply dire voice acting. Some Resident Evil fans feel they just can’t enjoy the experience of exploring Umbrella facilities if someone isn’t talking at them with absolutely no regard for pacing, content or tone. As a result, modder Bunny has stepped up to the […]

  • Record iPhone sales drive Apple to revenue spike

    The iPhone is still going strong – in fact, it’s selling better than ever. Apple has announced its financial results for the quarter ending December 27 2014, exceeding expectations with a 29.5% increase in revenues to $74.6 billion. This was a new record for the company. One of the key factors in this spike is […]

  • HoloLens has “mind-blowing” potential for games, says Microsoft CEO

    Microsoft’s VR wearable HoloLens is going to be great for games, according to CEO Satya Nadella. Speaking to investors, Nadella made Microsoft’s entertainment plans for the device explicit. “It’s also getting clearer how the games people love today will evolve to mind-blowing experiences in the future when designed for the mixed reality that Windows 10 […]