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H1Z1: Sony outlines monetisation stance, game wouldn’t exist without DayZ, says Smedley

Friday, 11th April 2014 08:58 GMT By Dave Cook

H1Z1 developer Sony Online Entertainment has made clear its monetisation stance in its zombie survival sandbox game. While it’s free to play, there will of course be payments, and company president John Smedley has discussed his team’s approach in a second Reddit update.

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Details of his first H1Z1 Reddit session can be found through the link, and saw him laying down some initial details. It’s a good first start if you’re keen on the project.

But now the issue of money has come up, and Smedley was happy to oblige with some feedback.

“You will be surprised to hear we have intentionally left the decisions about what to monetize until we can hear from you,” he opened. “This isn’t some contrived thing.. I’m being serious. It is a nearly blank slate.
So the floor is open for ideas.”

He then offered the following pointers to help fuel gamer’s opinions and ideas based on internal discussions around H1Z1′s monetisation:

  • 1) This will be a F2P game (after early access). During early access it’s going to cost $19.99 to play.
  • 2) We are not interested in selling weapons. Weapons are only aquired by crafting or exploring and finding one. We are not selling power.
  • 3) The game at it’s core is about survival. Our preference is not to sell ANYTHING that can help with that. If this game is too hard for you play another one. We don’t want to give shortcuts for our core mechanic.
  • 4) Wearables – we DO see wearables as an obvious “heck yes” kind of thing. I think it’s perfectly reasonable to have most wearables be purchaseable. Of course we will still have plenty to craft, find and wear for free.
  • 5) We made this game because we love making games and entertaining our players is why we exist. That being said, we do need to make money. Your ideas are appreciated greatly but if we can avoid the “hey give us everything for free because you owe it to us since you’re a big company and we should get free games” commentary it would help a lot.

Smedley closed, “So with the above in mind, we welcome a serious dialogue about this. We’re listening and if you want to have a say in this, now’s the time.”

Finally, Smedley addressed an understandable, initial thought process following H1Z1′s reveal on Twitter:

We’ll have more on H1Z1 as it comes.

Via DualShockers.

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15 Comments

  1. ChristopherJack

    I’m more interested in this than I ever was for DayZ standalone. Particularly how they emphasized base building & crafting in general.

    #1 8 months ago
  2. end0rphine

    I’m mainly interested since it’s a survival game with a decent engine.

    Damn Arma 2 engine…

    #2 8 months ago
  3. ChristopherJack

    DayZ really has some some excellent ideas & really kickstarted the chase to he ultimate post-apocalyptic zombie survival mmo that we’ve always dreamed of but I just don’t think they’re the right studio for the task.

    For one thing there’s so much wrong with the engine such as glitches, walking through walls, funny(not ha-ha funny) hit boxes & so many other things I won’t even begin to mention. I think my biggest issue is that the zombies are fucking Olympic gold medallists, since when did loss of nerves & post-mortem decay make anybody faster?? Also they haven’t centralized the communities ideas into the full game which means a fragmented community, perhaps they’ll adapt the better mods into the full game but I don’t see it happening at any reasonable pace.

    #3 8 months ago
  4. TheWulf

    I wish the game hadn’t existed, anyway.

    Not to be mean, because I like SOE, I like them for having created one of the few MMOs that was genuinely fun and not at all grindy (Free Realms). But I’m bitter to see that Free Realms is going away to be replaced with this nonsense. Someone at SOE, in charge of marketing, has their head on wrong. There’s just a point where an entire genre has jumped the shark, and is barely clinging onto life. I think the whole zombiepocalypse genre has hit that point.

    Even The Walking Dead is barely hanging on for dear life, whilst The Wolf Among Us laps up all the popularity. This is according to both the reviews and the community threads I’ve read about both, I think that people like the evolved interpersonal politics and drama in TWAU, and that the antagonist is actually something worth being afraid of. Zombies aren’t really scary any more, at this point, they’re just schlock horror. So even something that’s actually well written, like The Walking Dead, is falling out of favour.

    I think that you can only do something so much before even the mainstream herd gets sick of it. I think zombies are at that point. When the mainstream is sick of something, you know it’s time to put it aside.

    I just don’t see this being successful at all.

    I can’t imagine what possessed them to think that this was a good idea. I’m genuinely worried for you, SOE. I hope Landmark and Everquest Next saves them, or I can see SOE being casualties at Sony, and that particular division being shut down for good.

    #4 8 months ago
  5. ChristopherJack

    @TheWulf I really don’t think that you know what you’re talking about. DayZ is STILL Steam’s top seller at the moment. Just because a genre is polarizing doesn’t mean that it isn’t popular, look at wrestling- it’s fake but many still love it while others hate it. Justin Bieber is another good example, every adult male hates or dislikes him but he’s still one of the most popular singers in the world.

    #5 8 months ago
  6. Dragon

    “hey give us everything for free because you owe it to us since you’re a big company and we should get free games”
    Its surprising how many people believe in this bullshit.

    #6 8 months ago
  7. Michael Ireland

    DayZ is a piddling carcas of a game, devoid of creative intent, intelligent design, high quality aesthetics, or even competent gameplay. It’s a “shining” example of this weird obsession people seem to have developed in recent years to be a part of perpetually incomplete experiences. Nothing should ever be inspired by it.

    Zombies are the creatively vapid dead-end corner of gaming.

    Paying to trial a free-to-play game is a complete horseshit idea. Obviously people are free to vote with their wallet, but nobody does that anymore so this will undoubtedly end up encouraging the idea rather than deter it.

    #7 8 months ago
  8. Michael Ireland

    @TheWulf Im pretty sure “community threads” is not a valid enough measure of that sort of thing. Correlation =/= causation. Without factual sales number, a claim like that is baseless and entirely circumstantial.

    Free Realms was shut down because barely anyone was playing it. Companies chase after popular ideas, and stop supporting unpopular ones. Like it or not, zombie games are popular. Claiming they aren’t is factually untrue, as can be supporter by the consistent sales of DayZ.

    #8 8 months ago
  9. Legendaryboss

    “I happen to think Day Z is an incredible game. H1Z1 wouldn’t exist if not for Day Z. I don’t want to run from that.”

    That is a pretty open view on the inspiration of the existence of a game .

    #9 8 months ago
  10. DuckOfDestiny

    “Hey, let’s take DayZ, and try to make even more money out of it!”

    #10 8 months ago
  11. azpharon

    “If this game is too hard play another one”
    Are you fucking kidding me? Don’t try and make thus game seem hardcore. All games released on Xbox or PS have no required skill. In comparison to dayz this game will be a walk in the park

    #11 8 months ago
  12. ChristopherJack

    @azpharon I think what I hate most about my fellow gamers is when they act like they know the future- like how a game completely operates without even playing it and afew best watched a 2 minute video from 4 months ago and a handful of screenshots.

    #12 7 months ago
  13. polygem

    i disagree with many of you about dayz. the game isn´t even really about zombies at all and as a videogame it is a huge achievement and one of the most interesting things happening in gaming atm.

    the way you interact with others is something i have never experienced before in a videogame after decades as a gamer.

    it´s a fresh and unique concept and that´s why it has so many followers. it´s not so much about zombies. it´s about player interaction. the weird mix of fun, abuse, fear, despair, hunger and finding food and weapons. it´s a game about inventory tetris, running and looking for the next weird stuff happening, trying to survive, help people to do that as well, or kill them and steal their stuff (your choice). i think that´s something many people do not understand. i ahve played the game for 100 hours and i can safely say, i had an outstanding time this far.

    if you are getting attacked in dayz by another human player, your heart beat goes up like in no other game. it is intense. the game gives you all the time that you want. you pace the game. no restrictions in how you play it, no narrative is getitng in the way. it really is your story as a survivor. it´s your game. it´s a great experience.

    this one….looks like anohtermainstream blockbuster cash in zombie game – i agree- big corps sell games but kill gaming most of the time.

    #13 7 months ago
  14. polygem

    @Michael Ireland

    i completely disagree with you about early access. since i have a pc these early access games have been among the best expeiences i have ever had a s a gamer. the community in these games. the ingame discussion with other players, the interaction with the devs…it´s all good fun that adds to the game experience itself. war of the vikings is anohter example. i bought the game for 18 euro – another 70 hours spent wit the game since. fantastic hours. early access can be pretty damn good if done right.

    on the other hand, i bought bioshock infinite for a tenner and still thought i paid too much for that uninspired mess of a game. i bought batlefield 4 for ps4 and crashed to desktop for weeks, all the time, after paying full price for the game and the brandnew console. i played far cry 3 and while not a bad game – wow- how generic and boring in design, full price, finished game. still not worth the cash…no, early access is a blessing!

    #14 7 months ago
  15. polygem

    @MichaelIreland

    sorry mike, got that one wrong – you were talking about paying for F2p access not early access.

    my opinion about the early access stuff stands though.

    #15 7 months ago

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