PS4 sold 66% more units than Xbox One last month – Pachter

Monday, 9th December 2013 21:34 GMT By Brenna Hillier

PlayStation 4 is significantly outselling Xbox One, Wedbush Morgan analyst Michael Pachter said in a recent note to investors.

As reported by MCV, Pachter estimates the PS4 sold 1.25 million units in the US during the month of November, while the Xbox One sold 750,000 – putting the PS4 in front by 66% more unit sales.

Before you sound the victory bell, remember the PS4 launched on November 15, giving it 15 says on sale during the month, while the Xbox One launched on November 22, leaving it just eight days.

Pachter’s estimates, which we’ll know the accuracy of once the November NPD report releases, suggest sales of new consoles have come at a cost to existing hardware. The analyst believes the PS3, Wii U and Xbox 360′s hardware sales have fallen 28%, 65% and 44% year-on-year respectively.

Pachter has always been a strong believer in Microsoft but has warned the platform holder must drop the price on the Xbox One or PS4 will “win” this generation.

Thanks, Legendaryboss.



  1. Pytox

    wow :o :P

    #1 1 year ago
  2. KineticCalvaria

    @1, ‘Pachter’ and ‘estimates’.

    So pretty much pulled out of his arse.

    #2 1 year ago
  3. Battler624

    this “Pachter” needs to know that X-1 has released in the middle-east and africa yet the PS4 still hasn’t and it will be released in 3 days time.

    #3 1 year ago
  4. CPC_RedDawn


    Yea pretty much pulled out of his arse along with a boat load of money, his two luxury houses, his massive yacht, and of course another boat load of money.

    Remember this is what he does for a living, he tells people like Microsoft, EA, Activision, etc, etc where the market is going what they should be doing in the market and also talking to investors and showing them where is best to invest and probably a lot more.

    He may get things wrong from time to time, which I think sometimes with his predictions he is trolling us all and loving it. He is a seriously intelligent guy who maybe a little out of touch with technology but he knows the money side of the market like the back of his hand.

    #4 1 year ago
  5. lookingglass

    66% more units and 88% more days at retail.

    See what I did there?

    While I have no doubt that more early adopters will opt for the PS4 over the XBO once 2013 is said and done, the numbers here are overly dramatic and verge on irrelevant.

    Neither console is worth owning at this point. Mine already have figurative dust on them; the XBO getting at least Netflix use.

    The first must-have title hits next gen on XBO in the form of Titanfall this spring. That will likely surge sales for the platform. Then the real competition starts next holiday season.

    By then resolution-gate will be just a memory. A memory of launch games built on outdated XBO dev kits when the release console ended up with almost 20% more GPU power under the hood.

    If XBO can manage a price cut, we’ll have an honest console war on our hands come holiday 2014. Exclusive titles will duke it out, multiplatform games will grow even more similar, and both console experiences will be far more refined.

    Next year, I think everyone will win.

    #5 1 year ago
  6. xxxGamesMasterxxx

    Next gen is Sony’s for the taking. :)

    #6 1 year ago
  7. MadFlavour

    You know what this means?

    Nintendo is doomed.

    #7 1 year ago
  8. Arcnail

    Been into video games for a long long time, and never ever heard of this guy.

    This gen, as was last gen, and the gen before it, will be about the really good games.

    Neither of which either console has right now.

    #8 1 year ago
  9. fengato

    Lookingglass “By then resolution-gate will be just a memory. A memory of launch games built on outdated XBO dev kits when the release console ended up with almost 20% more GPU power under the hood.”

    You’re going to be sorely disappointed if you’re expecting the X1 to reach visual parity with the PS4 – the apples vs apples hardware numbers simply don’t stack up. Just as I had no time for PS3 fanboys claiming that their system was uber (when it invariably under-delivered for 3rd party titles) I’ll be calling out the X1 fannys for doing the same. You need to face the fact that MS have different priorities this gen – and it’s going to continue to show despite better dev tools and overclocks.

    #9 1 year ago
  10. mhunterjr

    Hmm, theses aren’t estimates… these are the exact totals of each console available in NA during their respective launches.

    they both sold out, but Sony naturally sold more in NA, as they had shipped more at that time.

    It’s clear to me that Sony’s demand is greater, but, this ‘analysis’ is woefully incomplete.

    #10 1 year ago
  11. The_Red

    With the fewer days for XB1 taken into consideration, I’d say both systems are doing great.

    The troubling news / prediction is for Wii U. If it really had a 65 percent drop compared to last year, then it has sold less than 200k which for November (+Price Cut, Mario 3D and Zelda) would be catastrophic. Of course these could go either way. Anything above 500k means there is hope for the system while 200k and below are the final nails in the coffin.

    #11 1 year ago
  12. Doppleganger

    I don’t think it even matters that PS4 had a head start as they both sold out the first day anyway.
    I work retail and we finally got second shipment of PS4′s today and sold out right at opening.
    Whats gonna make XboxOne suffer is that theres no date of retail stores getting them back in stock so theres a much higher amount of PS4 going out to the public. If people don’t see an Xbox One in stock they might just end up buying a PS4.

    No offence but sure PS4 has more raw power but the Xbox One is a better console and IMHO I’m reading that as theres 66% more dumb asses in the world.
    Heck if you wanted graphics (which hasn’t been proven yet on PS4 as Ryse:Son of Rome actually has better graphics then KillZone) why don’t you just play PC?

    #12 1 year ago
  13. Reddpayn

    But doppleganger, tell me then why i should buy a more expensive and weaker machine instead of the more powerfull and cheaper ps4? And dont talk about exclusives, it is just an opinion which ones you like the most.

    #13 1 year ago
  14. Reddpayn

    Btw, if somebody wants some facts about the specs, just type gamedebate and xbones gpu is hd7790 and ps4′s hd7870. Then you can easily tell that ps4 has better gpu.

    #14 1 year ago
  15. Ekona

    @13 But is that not the whole point?

    I’d be tempted to argue that buying a console simply because it has bigger numbers under the hood and lower ones on the box isn’t the right way to go. Shouldn’t we be looking for the overall experience? Those games you simply won’t find anywhere else? Those features that define the console, like PSPlus with all the free games or the voice control of the Kinect? Or even something as simple as the controller you prefer, as that’s your main way of interacting with your chosen device?

    IMHO, that’s what should drive sales. The overall experience is far more important than gigaflops and an inconsequential price difference.

    #15 1 year ago
  16. fengato

    ^ Graphics do matter – the better looking/running 3rd party games on 360 swayed me to make it my default 3rd party system (only got first party stuff for PS3). Boot is on the other foot this time when it comes to the overall experience – 3rd party + Sony exclusives on PS4, then Titanfall, Halo and Forza on X1.

    As for #12 – I care about graphics (it’s all part of the immersion) though a gaming rig is not on my radar whatsoever. At the end of a day the last thing I want to do is to sit up to some PC gaming. I wanna use a good controller; I don’t want to tweak menus, or dick around making it work properly. It’s not a matter of cost (my Mac costs a great deal more than most gaming rigs); it comes down to convenience and having the first party stuff that MS, Sony and Nintendo are capable of.

    #16 1 year ago
  17. Legion

    @16 Graphics do matter but if it all came down to just graphics then for the most part we would all be on high end PCs.

    I want a system that allows me the best multiplayer experience.
    I want a system that gives me the game titles that I want.
    I want a system that my family and friends can enjoy.

    And if I can also have a system that cooks me breakfast in bed… then more the better. :D

    #17 1 year ago
  18. Lord Gremlin

    Well, the only reason to buy these consoles now is if you want a particular exclusive. Like, I got a PS4 cause I’m a big fan of Killzone and was dying to see what happened to Stahl and destroyed Helghan. And those answers I got. Much more satisfactory ending than Killzone 3, I’d give them that. But dear god they dropped the ball with gameplay – worse than Mercenary.
    But again, if you don’t want a particular exclusive right now, there’s really no point in buying a system now.

    #18 1 year ago
  19. Ilovesony

    at the end of the day… no matter what your choice is…. Sony is gonna kick microsofts ass.. yall can whine about the graphics yall can whine about the exclusives.. yall can whine about the GPU and its overclocking or the native 1080p but the fact is… YOUR SYSTEM SUCKS.. I feel sorry for anyone who purchased a Sockbox One… You will continue to convince yourselves that your system is better because you already bought it. You can’t swap the harddrive.. your games will never be true 1080p and your kinect is watching you while you jerk off at night to yo gabba gabba.. but you guys will never admit to that why? “Because thats how Xbox people are” -Stan Marsh

    #19 1 year ago
  20. sean9080

    There are already a plethora of games that are native 1080p on the xbox one. Your comment and username shows how stupid you are that you would support one company over the other. Your language and references also show your maturity level. How does it feel to be mentally inferior to the smart people on the planet?

    #20 1 year ago
  21. Gigabomber


    #21 1 year ago
  22. jw2428

    so 1.25 million consoles over 15 days is 83,333 consoles a day.
    750,000 consoles over 8 days is 93,750 consoles a day
    …..kinda paints a completely different picture now.
    The consoles are so similar there isn’t much to tell them apart, yes the PS$ is a bit faster but if you care about that a pc is a better option anyway.
    BEST ADVICE YOU CAN HAVE: buy what your used to and for the selection of exclusive games you care about. Or simply whichever meets your budget. leave the stupid fan-boys to argue it out and buy what you want.

    #22 1 year ago
  23. DarkSoulz


    #23 1 year ago
  24. The_Red

    This adds up. PS4 reached 2.1 million in fewer days (14) and most of those days were US only.

    #24 1 year ago

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