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Wii U sales up 200% in September, 3DS best-selling US console – NPD

Thursday, 17th October 2013 22:48 GMT By Brenna Hillier

Drawing on this month’s NPD figures, Nintendo has announced excellent sales results for both the Wii U and 3DS.

Pre-empting the release of general sales figures by the NPD Group, Nintendo issued a press release announcing that Wii U hardware sales increased more than 200% month-on-month in September.

The significant sales surge is almost certainly the result of a price cut, which saw North American retailers drop the price of the Deluxe bundle by $50 to match the Basic, but may have been helped along by the Wind Waker bundle.

The 3DS also had a good month, managing to be the territory’s best-selling console for the fifth consecutive month; the launch of Pokémon X & Y and the 2DS in October is likely to see that trend continue this month.

Further details from the NPD group’s monthly report on US retail sales is expected shortly.

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243 Comments

  1. YoungZer0

    Why would anyone buy the Wii-U?

    #1 10 months ago
  2. Legendaryboss

    In before Francis fanboy nonsense.
    In before shitstorm.

    #2 10 months ago
  3. monkeygourmet

    You can put lipstick on a pig…

    But it’s still a pig.

    @3

    Because people are idiots.

    #3 10 months ago
  4. absolutezero

    So dead.

    Let me get my NPD. Its dead.

    No wait listen to me.

    What do you mean do I even like games?

    Well no not really.

    Wait come back please.

    #4 10 months ago
  5. Sini

    I guess 200% of 2 units is 4 units sold. Someone tell nintendo that’s still bad.

    #5 10 months ago
  6. Hcw87

    They should turn into a publisher and whore themselves out to MS and Sony.

    #6 10 months ago
  7. zinc

    Sony/MS Fanbot “Oi Ninty your home console sucks!”

    Ninty “Sorry we can’t hear you from under this huge pile of cash our handhelds bring in!”

    Ninty “Lol, #vitaloses$$$, #DSmoneymaker, #SonyWishes”

    Ninty “Good luck in Japan MS! #Only1market :)”

    #7 10 months ago
  8. Max Pain

    Sini
    17/10/13, 11:19 pm
    I guess 200% of 2 units is 4 units sold. Someone tell nintendo that’s still bad.

    100% of 2 is 4

    200% of 2 is 6 :)

    #8 10 months ago
  9. monkeygourmet

    @8

    Basically that :)

    Hardcore pure console manufacturer still holding their own.

    #9 10 months ago
  10. Francis O

    @2 Legendarydope

    - but but but the media create sales.. lol

    How about those US AND EURO Wind Waker sales? Like I said. Zelda is more popular and sells better in the West than Japan.

    #10 10 months ago
  11. fengato

    @1. Why? Got my premium on clearance for $185 aud (110 pounds). Worth every cent. :D

    #11 10 months ago
  12. Hyperx64

    That’s 2 X 100% Oh my gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad http://youtu.be/3NMGsRmZTFQ?t=12s

    Will be great when proper Mario, Zeldas & Metroids come out. Then I will buy a WiiU no problem.

    #12 10 months ago
  13. monkeygourmet

    Zombie U
    Mario 3D World
    Wind WakerHD
    Lego a City Undercover
    Wonderful 101
    Pikmin 3
    NSMBU
    Nintendoland
    Wii U Party
    Sonic Lost World
    Monster Hunter 3U
    Warioware U
    Tank Tank Tank!
    Scribblenauts Unlimited
    Wii Fit U

    That’s 15 exclusives Vs. The Xbone / PS4 lineup. A cheaper console with a lot of (cheaper) and quality titles. But people ain’t interested.

    Yay gaming!

    #13 10 months ago
  14. fengato

    @15 The retailer was doing so poorly with Wii U that they finished up with Nintendo entirely. It was a buying frenzy with everything Nintendo half or more off. Everything (aside from copies of black ops ii) was gone in a couple of hours.

    #14 10 months ago
  15. monkeygourmet

    @18

    Great deal!

    #15 10 months ago
  16. monkeygourmet

    @20

    In UK Wii U is pretty well priced, but people still want to play Xbone / PS4 COD over games like a Wonderful 101 for some reason. :/

    Also, new games are pretty cheap on Wii U, Sonic is £34.99 on the e-store, that’s pretty low for UK pricing.

    #16 10 months ago
  17. CPC_RedDawn

    @9

    100% of something is the same as the “something” you complete and utter idiot.

    100% of 2 is fucking 2!

    2 is the 100%. Like 100% of 100… is 100! How can anyone get this wrong!?

    200% of 2 is double 100% so its 2×2=4

    400% of 2 is 4 times as many so 2×4=8

    You sir, should not even be able to venture outside, and how on earth your brain managed to function properly to even get out of bed, get dressed, turn on your computer, sit down, and type that comment is well beyond my knowledge!

    #17 10 months ago
  18. Francis O

    Seriously, you can tell how drone occupied this community is.

    The Media create charts had Damage Control Dragon running rampant. And Legendaryjackass right behind him.

    Positive news on Wii U. Both of them have ran away scared.

    #18 10 months ago
  19. Dragon

    No numbers, sigh….
    Poor hardcore fans, getting all wet after listening to 200% of xxx. Seriously, some people cant stop being a salesman and giving Ninty magical titles. Good for them I guess.

    Btw, to put some perspective, 3ds had a increase of over 1000% after price cut while Vita had same boost after Japanese price cut. So 200% is a rather ordinary boost considering holidays incoming+price cut, that too with no solid numbers said means the numbers are still pathetic.
    Wedbush has a guess of 55k, whereas VGC has it at around 100k, its probably safe to say its somewhere in between. Awaiting leaks.

    @6,
    They know its bad, hence the marketing spin with no numbers.

    #19 10 months ago
  20. pcbros

    @22 – Actually…

    If previous sales were 2,000 per month, a 100% increase in sales would equal an additional 2,000. You are basically saying that sales went up 100% of the previous amount.

    So a 200% increase = 4,000. So if the previous sales were 2,000 per month, adding the 200% increase (4,000) would amount to 6,000.

    @24 – “Poor hardcore fans, getting all wet after listening to 200% of xxx.”

    Who overreacted to this article? Everyone seems pretty calm to me. Just because some people are happy for Nintendo that they are experiencing ANY kind of increase doesn’t mean they are being foolish.

    I grew up playing the Sega Genesis, SNES and TG-16. I never knew who was selling what and didn’t care. In this internet era, people seem to care too much about figures. We aren’t CEO’s, we’re gamers. If you like the games, buy the system…

    #20 10 months ago
  21. Dragon

    @25,
    “Who overreacted to this article?”
    You can see for yourself. Only 1-2 of them, mind you. Not all fans are like that.
    Not naming them since its ok

    “In this internet era, people seem to care too much about figures.”
    Really? Why are you in this thread then? Numbers are important, and if you “don’t care” why not leave that discussion to people who know their importance?

    #21 10 months ago
  22. Dragon

    @25,
    Ignore my above comment.
    “Who overreacted to this article?”
    You can see for yourself. Only 1-2 of them, mind you. Not all fans are like that.
    Not naming them since its ok to have differing opinions on a company. I think you don’t know, but those guys have a made a account on VG247 for the explicit purpose of defending ninty and rile other users, by their own admission. So I am not interested in engaging in a slugfest with them nd giving them what they want, hence not naming them.
    Although I wont be surprised if one of those hardcore fans who feel they have such behaviour responding with insults.
    They aren’t different from a passionate Arsenal fan and a Spurs fan sparring using virtual ink. Yet both of them pretend to be neutral, hilarious.

    “In this internet era, people seem to care too much about figures.”
    Really? Why are you in this thread then? Numbers are important, and if you “don’t care” why not leave that discussion to people who know their importance?

    @LB,
    Leave it man. Engaging with platform trolls is just what they want. The fanboy left commenting on dualshockers since no one took the bait there, he will do the same here if you ignore his religious cult talk.

    #22 10 months ago
  23. pcbros

    @26 – Any positive Wii U news grabs my attention. These numbers however will not dictate whether I buy a Wii U or not.

    I have never purchased a console based on numbers and I never will.

    EDIT: “So 200% is a rather ordinary boost considering holidays incoming+price cut, that too with no solid numbers said means the numbers are still pathetic.”

    If someone’s house gets destroyed by a tornado and that person is happy that one of their personal items was saved… do you remind them that 99% of their stuff is gone?

    #23 10 months ago
  24. Dragon

    @28,
    “Any positive Wii U news grabs my attention.”
    Selective bias huh?
    So you have no trouble with positive Wii U numbers, but have one with negative ones? Duh.
    Btw, industry works on numbers, not magic or abstract things like that. If you don’t like numbers, ignore them. Why do you care if people talk about them? But they are very important, despite whatever you want to say.

    “If someone’s house gets destroyed by a tornado and that person is happy that one of their personal items was saved… do you remind them that 99% of their stuff is gone?”
    I am sooo soooory, I didn’t think Wii U was the equivalent of a homeless man hit by a tornado named PS3 and 360.
    Sorry homeless Wii U, I apologize, I didn’t know you had such bad life :D

    #24 10 months ago
  25. pcbros

    @29 – I don’t care about numbers. You are the one begging for numbers. I’m just happy some positive news hits Nintendo. Sorry if I don’t sit in my basement crunching sales figures trying to determine a system’s worth.

    I think it’s no surprise that based on previous comments, you are not a Wii U fan. So not sure what brings you to these threads.

    #25 10 months ago
  26. Francis O

    Damage Control Dragon alert Damage Control Dragon Alert!

    Face it, you thought WWHD was going to bomb and Wii U sales would not get better, and quite the opposite is happening.

    Hence you coming with the Damage control

    #26 10 months ago
  27. Joe Musashi

    200% increase of what?

    This is neither positive nor negative information. It is meaningless information. The only way to regard it as negative or positive is to add personal bias.

    JM

    #27 10 months ago
  28. Maabren

    Console War or just getting the globale numbers as games boost console sales.

    Wind Walker!

    Wii U console sold:
    August ca 124000 vs September ca 148000
    Wii U increased ca 20%

    GTA V!

    Xbox360 console sold:
    August ca 293000 vs September ca 481000
    Xbox360 increased ca 64%

    PS3 console sold:
    August ca 514000 vs September ca 810000
    PS3 increased ca 57%

    Maybe Nintendo miscalculated and throw in an extra zero as if that makes news more positive.

    And we may look at total console sold in Q2FY2013 as those numbers may tell how much makeup our pig needs:

    Wii
    ca 0,3 millions

    Wii U
    ca 0,4 millions

    Xbox360
    ca 2,1 millions

    PS3
    ca 3,4 millions

    I belive Nintendo have to throw a party as Q1 vs Q2 gave Wii U a increase of ca 14%.

    #28 10 months ago
  29. CyberMarco

    @monkey (17)

    Well, that list was filled in the last 2 years (or so) of Wii U’s life-cycle, so who says that PS4/XB1 wont have a big first party lineup down the road?

    Sure you can say that in December the Wii U will have more 1st party exclusives compared to the rivals, but that is expected for every launch of gaming console.

    Cherry picking much… :P

    #29 10 months ago
  30. monkeygourmet

    @34

    It was just based on the 3 consoles as it stands this Xmas. That list obviously doesn’t apply to someone who owns a Wii U, more to people who don’t (yes, believe of not, some people don’t own a Wii U!) :)

    #30 10 months ago
  31. monkeygourmet

    But, yeah without figures it’s just nothing. And while figures are important, they don’t make quality games disappear, as much as some people would like them too.

    Nintendo potentially have one of the highest rated exclusives this Christmas (Mario 3D World) compared to ‘next gen exclusives’. Does it mean anything to me how it scores or sells? Not really, I’ll be playing it alongside PS4 or Xbone.

    Games not consoles.

    #31 10 months ago
  32. mistermogul

    @1 – to play Nintendo games?

    @32 – Exactly. Sony, MS and Nintendo need to stop hiding behind percentage figures and give actual sales figures. Talk about patting yourself on the back when you (probably) don’t deserve it!

    #32 10 months ago
  33. Madlink

    @CyberMarco While I agree that monkeygourmets comparison isn’t exactly fair, what it does do is show that there are plenty of reasons (software-wise) to pick up a Wii U.

    Also the Wii U has only been out for roughly 11 months, not 2 or so years. ;)

    #33 10 months ago
  34. monkeygourmet

    Nintendo sold over 140,000 CONSOLES compared to Sony / MS in Japan recently. Do I give a fuck? Not really, people have ups and downs to to have a company that only produces consoles still standing toe to toe with 2 huge global powerhouses is always amusing.

    Personally I think people are still a bit butt hurt over Wii smashing everything last gen. :)

    #34 10 months ago
  35. polygem

    @1: because it´s a fun console with great games. i personally wonder why people want to buy ps4´s and x1´s to be honest. i cannot see much greatness in those devices yet. not at all.

    again, in my personal opinion, if you are into gaming and you are interested in gaming “culture” in general, if you want a well rounded opinion about gaming today, there´s no way not to own a nintendo console. imo the 3ds is the better nintendo console contentwise atm but the wiiu is an awesome, innovative and fun machine. that so many so called gamers aren´t buying it but shit their pants because of the ps4 x1 launch is a bit sad imo. the strange joy and weird kicks many posters are getting out of bad wiiu sales is disgusting.

    #35 10 months ago
  36. CyberMarco

    @monkey “yes, believe or not, some people don’t own a Wii U!” No shit! :P

    @38 Oh, my bad. then less than 1 year! :)

    Well to counter that, I can say “as I waited almost 1 year until the Wii U had a big 1st party lineup, I can always wait for the PS4/XB1 too”

    @Poly “i personally wonder why people want to buy ps4″

    I’m interested in the PS4 mostly for Kingdom Hearts 3 (if that wasn’t obvious already), Final Fantasy XV and Metal Gear Solid GZ/V (I know it’s a current-gen game too). As you see I’m mostly interested in 3rd party games, but 1st party games are welcome too, like Infamous, GT and future Naughty Dog games.

    Also I’m interested in buying a PS Vita in the near future, so I could use some extra features with the PS4, and with PS+ it sweetens the deal.

    You can say I can get the same experience/feature with the Wii U and 3DS, and I agree. I would gladly get a Wii U and 3DS, they have several games that I’m interested in, but I have already “invested” in the Playstation brand, and as getting the Wii U now isn’t really a big problem money-wise, the problem is time-wise, already have a huge backlog on Steam and PS3, not mentioning the PS+ games and the ones for the PS Vita in the future.

    Also, I feel “uncomfortable” buying things and not getting the most out of it *cough* Steam Sales/Bundles/PS+ *cough*, so by adding more to the pile isn’t helping much! :P

    #36 10 months ago
  37. matirishhh

    Great news!
    I got it two days ago, and I love it.
    I’m glad I waited – price is lower and there is more games now.
    I’m not buying X1 at all. I will buy PS4 maybe this time next year.
    I own a VITA but WII U gamepad is WAAAAY more comfortable and has a bigger screen. Very good machine!
    I’m sure WII U will sell amazingly well when NINTENDO launches more quality games. This is gonna be the same as with 3DS…first it was a disaster now it is the best selling console of all time. Nintendo knows what to do!

    #37 10 months ago
  38. Legendaryboss

    Yes i was right, booyah: Francis, Dragon, Polygem and Monkey messages.

    @Dragon
    Just one comment, forseeing this.

    @Francis
    I was right, yeah Francis i’m not acknowledging your dribble but to correct you:
    First. You will never find anywhere where i said anything about US or EU sales.
    Second. I’m not on VG247 24/7 made that comment then slept at a point.
    Third. You don’t know official EU sales, you only said US and you weren’t even sure what you thought when you said always/usually.
    Finally. You were right once compared to the many lists of wrongs.

    @Polygem
    Thats a new approach to your salemans tactics, variety is the spice of life :)

    @Monkey
    Yes we get it the Wii U has a lot of exclusives, they will sell to the people who want it and its a pity it took Zelda for that.

    #38 10 months ago
  39. monkeygourmet

    @Cyber

    I think you hit the nail on the head with:

    “but I have already “invested” in the Playstation brand”

    The Xbox and Playstation brand have created an ecosystem that rewards long term subscription. Weather that be Trophies / Achievments or a strong multiplayer friends list or like for certain titles.

    Nintendo didn’t really achieve that with the Wii (crappy friend code system and almost zero online), and you could say they pay the price for not setting up a similar system sooner.

    That definatly matters to some people. The herd mentality generally sticks to what they know (not saying you are a sheep obviously) and it takes a lot to sway people away from MS, Apple, Sony if they are a fan of there products.

    I knew people (and TEA was a good example on here), who ONLY bought Sony products and hence bought into the Playstation brand because they thought it equalled quality. Missing that fact that Sony’s products can be as hit and miss as anyone elses.

    I have an Apple tablet / Phone, Samsung TV, Windows Acer Media Center etc etc… Not to mention consoles from all brands. I personally buy what ever product I think offers the best quality, features for the price. Console wise, I try and get them all eventually, but I can definatly see people being stuck with a particular brand. It happens all the time.

    The difference with a media ecosystem is you generally get rewarded for sticking with a single company: For example, Im looking at Android phones for my next upgrade, but I will lose all my iPhone / iPad apps so the temptation is to stick with Apple, they tend to make it easy and worthwhile to stick with their products.

    Same goes for consoles. It’s only after MS royally fucked up the reveal that we have heard about people ‘jumping ship’ but many people would have stuck with Sony / MS regardless of what Nintendo had created, just based on the factors I’ve listed above.

    It’s very hard to pull a limpet off a rock.

    #39 10 months ago
  40. monkeygourmet

    @Lboss

    We can see what is popular. That doesn’t always mean something is good / better though.

    Hype train and all that.

    #40 10 months ago
  41. polygem

    @cyber. i can totally understand that. i am having the same problem. i am focussing on 3ds and wiiu atm. this changes all the time though. i had a very playstation heavy phase at the end of the last year, first half of this year. was a huge xbox gamer for many years.
    right now i just don´t get excited about whats in the pipeline for the next sony ms machines. if people are excited about it that´s fantastic. all i´m saying is that there´s still no need to hate on wiiu. it´s a great device – gamers should try it themselves. it´s sad that they don´t. it would be alright if they´d leave it like that but not buying it, not knowing what they´re actually talking about AND spitting hatred all the time just looks extremely stupid to me.
    that´s not aimed at you though i know you´re not one of the platform fanboys :)

    @LB: i just checked your house via your internet connection. i still can´t find a wiiu anywhere. go buy one now. i warned you mate :)

    #41 10 months ago
  42. Legendaryboss

    @46
    LOL, you never know what the future holds.

    #42 10 months ago
  43. pcbros

    @32 – “This is neither positive nor negative information. It is meaningless information. The only way to regard it as negative or positive is to add personal bias.”

    Even at one unit per month, a 200% increase is still a positive number. Might be a small positive, but it’s still a positive.

    #43 10 months ago
  44. Dragon

    @30,
    So you come to a numbers and sales thread only to tell other people to stop talking about numbers in anything less than an overly positive tone about your favourite console?
    Okay then. Maybe you like attaching Ninty with hyperbolic meaningless adjectives like “Disney of game world” which makes no sense whatsoever.

    Have a nice day.

    Btw, since oddly, we dont have a NPD thread, I will just put these numbers here (courtesy creamsugar)-
    Wii U – ~91k
    PS3 > 360
    PSV > 40k

    Killzone: Mercenary – ~41k
    Rune Factory 4 – ~17k
    Etrian Odyssey Untold: The Millennium Girl – <10k
    The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker – 123k (including bundles)
    Rayman Legends – <70k (Wii U: 55.5%)
    Grand Theft Auto V – Over 7 million including PS3 bundles (360: ~58%)
    Diablo III – ~550k (360: ~61%)
    Kingdom Hearts HD 1.5 Remix – 273k
    The Wondeful 101 – A little less than 20k

    For the first time in 32 months, PS3 leads home console market in US outselling 360 due to GTA 5 bundles.

    #44 10 months ago
  45. Joe Musashi

    “200% increase of [NULL] volume now gives [NULL]!”

    Logic overlooked. PR man satisfied. Job done.

    @49 The ‘c’ stands for “contradiction”. Seems to happen an awful lot.

    JM

    #45 10 months ago
  46. Legendaryboss

    Might as well: http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/THISGONBGUD.gif

    @48
    No its not. 91K is positive but compared to PS3/360 it isn’t all that.

    @49
    Oh wait The Wonderful 101 was supposed to be a system seller? Someone told me so, in a long list of supposed saviours. Well at least he was right once about Zelda, unless usually means i should take him seriously.

    Killzone Mercenary did 41k? Well thats good for a title without any ads whatsoever. And PS Vita did 40k in similar factors as KM, well i don’t know what to say.

    @50
    Yeah, not much to add.

    #46 10 months ago
  47. pcbros

    @49 – So you come to a Wii U article just to put down the product?

    Funny how I can’t talk down numbers in a numbers thread. Yet, you can talk down the Wii U in a Wii U thread.

    Btw, according to your numbers, the PS Vita is a complete fail. Should we go around talking about how pathetic those numbers are?

    “PS3 leads home console market in US”

    Should 360 owners trade in their consoles for a PS3 because of these numbers? No matter how to put it, numbers mean very little to consumers. Some hardcore gamers might love them but the average person doesn’t care.

    #47 10 months ago
  48. Dragon

    @LB,
    Sony was moronic in not releasing a KZM Vita bundle in US like they did in Europe. Most of US sales of Vita came from Walking Dead bundles.
    Really stupid.

    @52,
    “the PS Vita is a complete fail. Should we go around talking about how pathetic those numbers are?”
    Really? You haven’t seen me in Vita threads calling it a walking dead, which it is? Ask people above you.

    “Funny how I can’t talk down numbers in a numbers thread. Yet, you can talk down the Wii U in a Wii U thread.”
    And this makes me sure that talking anymore with you on this thread is useless. I cant believe you cant see how silly your arguments look like-
    “compares wiiu to a homeless man” “says numbers are useless in a numbers thread”
    Again, have a nice day.

    #48 10 months ago
  49. Legendaryboss

    @53
    “Really? You haven’t seen me in Vita threads calling it a walking dead, which it is?”
    Don’t be too hard on him, he makes comments without researching it first or backtracking later or comparing Wii U to a homeless man or making up his own definition of words like Francis.

    Anyway agreed on the bundle stuff, it seems like Sony US have nearly just about given up on it.

    #49 10 months ago
  50. absolutezero

    “I am talking with people interested in numbers.”

    I had hoped you’d been blown away like the Wizard of Oz.

    #50 10 months ago
  51. pcbros

    @50 – Simple math tells me you can’t have a 200% increase from a null number.

    @51 – It’s still a positive. We aren’t talking in relation to the competition. An increase is good by any measure.

    @53 – Why is my opinion that numbers don’t matter much affect you so much? I don’t live or die by the numbers, deal with it.

    Did I ever accuse you of being a Vita advocate? My point was you shouldn’t trash a system based on numbers alone. And just for the record, I don’t think the Vita is an epic fail.

    #51 10 months ago
  52. monkeygourmet

    This is relevant, I’ve mentioned it before:

    If a user purely exists to remind or rub ‘teh numbers’ in someones face, then there is an underlying motive for doing that.

    Personally, numbers don’t effect my enjoyment of a console or game series.

    When a company does good numbers on a series – it’s milked

    If they don’t do enough – they’ve failed

    Miley Cyrus might sell a metric shit ton of music, doesn’t mean I want to listen to it or think it has any merit.

    My beef with the Vita was more about games (at the start), the merits of offering AAA experiences and pricing (memory cards etc…). The numbers the console sells don’t really have significance for me unless I purchase a new machine and it tanks so badly it only has 1 or 2 games on it. Neither the Wii U or Vita is in danger of that.

    What it comes down to are people entering threads regarding a fantastic looking and original title (Wii U / Vita), and rather than talk about the game quality or ideas, start bean crunching. Even when right, does that effect your purchase or the overall quality of the game?

    History shows many fantastic games fail to do COD numbers or anywhere even close, it’s not a good barometer of quality and makes for a very boring discussion topic IMO.

    But, when it boils down to it, the numbers vs. quality arguement has become somewhat clouded with people from either side stepping over lines that either show unrealistic expectations or gleeful relish when something fails.

    If you refuse to purchase something that you know you will enjoy because it’s not selling xxx numbers, you are either cutting off your nose to spite your face, or are a fanboy and the numbers were irrelevant in the first place (you will always find something to complain about.)

    The Wii is a good example: Good numbers, some people still hated on it.

    Gamecube: Powerful, unique games, no ‘gimmicks’, people still hated on it…

    #52 10 months ago
  53. Legendaryboss

    @56
    Its only positive if the initial figure is big. If so we wouldn’t need to be told so in percentages. We? You aren’t doesn’t equal me. I’m talking about Wii U with the competition, so whos the “we” you are talking about?.

    #53 10 months ago
  54. Legendaryboss

    @57
    Sigh, never has it been proven that people won’t buy into something because “it’s not selling xxx numbers” Theres no correlation between the two nor is there any proof.

    All thats been stated is that Wii U is selling at this figure and its games are selling at this figure, just because the person may or may not say it in a way that pleases you does not equal “cutting off your nose to spite your face, or are a fanboy and the numbers were irrelevant in the first place”

    “When a company does good numbers on a series – it’s milked” No, milked is coming out every year or having many games within in a year with no signs of letting up.

    “If they don’t do enough – they’ve failed” By that logic, Jak And Daxter, Timesplitters and many others are failures, and i refuse to believe that.

    #54 10 months ago
  55. monkeygourmet

    @59

    “All thats been stated is that Wii U is selling at this figure and its games are selling at this figure, just because the person may or may not say it in a way that pleases you does not equal “cutting off your nose to spite your face, or are a fanboy and the numbers were irrelevant in the first place”

    This would be fine from many commentators ‘without prior knowledge’ or history.

    If you want to break it down (it’s going to be hard until we get the final figures), then any increase no matter how small is positve. You can’t make an increase in sales a negative outcome.

    All you can do is say:

    “Well, that was an increase but it wasn’t enough to help it” etc…

    Or, they are hiding behind percentages (although there was a small increase unless they are completly lying here).

    We saw that before with Sony hiding Vita figures etc…

    But that isn’t really helpful or meaniful in any way.

    Vita had a good spike recently, still not great or anywhere near whats needed but you gain nothing by pointing that out.

    People enjoy the number counting because it generally gives an absolute. A figure you can tout or use to crush an argument. XXX is selling YYY isn’t hence XXX is better.

    By that argument Justin Bieber produces some of the finest music in the world.

    also,

    “never has it been proven that people won’t buy into something because “it’s not selling xxx numbers” Theres no correlation between the two nor is there any proof.”

    Thats shown by weather something is ‘popular’ or not. Wii U is not popular atall at the moment.

    #55 10 months ago
  56. Joe Musashi

    “Simple math tells me you can’t have a 200% increase from a null number.”

    Exactly. It’s meaningless.

    JM

    #56 10 months ago
  57. pcbros

    @57 – “If a user purely exists to remind or rub ‘teh numbers’ in someones face, then there is an underlying motive for doing that.”

    Well said.

    #57 10 months ago
  58. dreamcastnews

    Every…God….Damn….Time.

    #58 10 months ago
  59. Legendaryboss

    @63
    0:38 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qR0Uke2XNI#

    #59 10 months ago
  60. Francis O

    Legendary and Dragon you guys are dancing like clowns in here.

    The damage control is off the charts here. LOL

    And Legendaryjackass, I never said The Wonderful 101 would be a savior for Wii U. I said that with ALL the games coming to the Wii U help the Wii U. Zelda isn’t the only game. The price drop helps too.

    I said that W101, Pikmin 3, Zelda, Super Mario 3D World, Smash Bros, Mario Kart and all the games coming to the Wii U are all going to help

    I never said The Wonderful 101 by itself was going to “save” The Wii U, the Wii U doesn’t need saving.

    Oh, the Nintendo overall is dominating the NPD.

    #60 10 months ago
  61. fearmonkey

    Hooray for Nintendo!

    I don’t see how anyone could be unhappy about this news, whether you like the Wii-u or not, having Nintendo in the running is good for the game industry and for Nintendo and for us gamers!

    Is it that some people want Nintendo to fail because they want them to be more like they once were? I can understand that (I wish Nintendo would make a more powerful console comparable with the others or better) but
    I don’t want them hurting.

    I don’t get the glee in watching Nintendo suffer with the Wii-u, or the unhappiness whenever there is good news regarding the device. It seems every Nintendo article is just filled with comments, between the Nintendo faithful and others, and I don’t get why exactly.

    #61 10 months ago
  62. Legendaryboss

    @65
    I’m not feeding you beyond @43 whats been said and still isn’t proven.

    Another point, where am i damage controlling?

    Your going to have to troll harder.

    #62 10 months ago
  63. pcbros

    @66 – According to the elite, there is nothing to be happy about. Simple logic supposedly tells us these figures are null and expressing any happiness is foolish. Since no numbers are given, we are to assume there were no prior sales and therefore a 200% increase is meaningless.

    Although I will go on a limb instead and pretend there were actual prior Wii U sales and see any increase in sales as a good thing.

    #63 10 months ago
  64. Francis O

    Legendary

    You know you are not going to buy a Wii U, exactly why are you interested in every single thing Nintendo does. Both you and Dragon are Sony fans. You guys like Sony’s games and 3rd party stuff.

    Why do you come to every single Nintendo article to give your 2 cents when you have NO INTENTION of playing or buying the Wii U?

    You’re the troll in this case. You just doomed the Wii U on Wednesday because of the Media Create sales. Yet claim the Vita is alive and kicking because of a marginally good week in Japan where the Vita received a price cut and new model.

    Yet still got crushed by the 3DS.

    When it comes to Nintendo you know nothing. You don’t play their games, you don’t care about their systems, WHY are you always coming to Nintendo stories?

    #64 10 months ago
  65. Legendaryboss

    @69
    Stereotyping and generalizing me, bravo.

    All of what your saying isn’t true, just based on your warped opinion of me.

    I never said PS Vita was alive and kicking, try again.

    #65 10 months ago
  66. pcbros

    People say the 200% increase is meaningless but I think coming here to trash a system is more pathetic.

    You will never hear me say, _____ system is destined to fail. I love the diversity in consoles. PS4/XB1, Wii U, Ouya, 3DS, Vita and Steam Machine all bring different things to the table.

    Why people would want to call any of them a failure is beyond me and shows how little they really enjoy gaming as a whole.

    #66 10 months ago
  67. monkeygourmet

    @71

    Yep, that’s about it.

    #67 10 months ago
  68. Dragon

    So, still going?

    Funny thing, of all defenders out there, none wanted to point out when I bashed Sony for poor Vita management in this very thread , which is frankly of the same dismal level as Wii U. Selective bias?
    Also, I see some people harping that they like all consoles, yet I see them bashing on Sony threads giving hyperbolic reasons as to why they hate their output and that they suck (not aimed at you pcbros).

    This thread has, as expected, gone the same way as multitude of other ninty defender threads.

    Oh, and last thing. Getting angry on calling a spade a spade is, frankly, silly. It just shows how narrow minded people are when it comes to things they like. Giving esoteric reasons to stop people from talking about it only shows your own selective bias.
    Live and let live.

    #68 10 months ago
  69. pcbros

    @70 – “Don’t be too hard on him, he makes comments without researching it first or backtracking later or comparing Wii U to a homeless man or making up his own definition of words like Francis.”

    Stereotyping and generalizing me, bravo.

    So you ask Francis not to do it, yet you yourself do it to others. You constantly tell people not to feed the trolls, yet you do it (of course excusing yourself along the way).

    What do you call someone that says one thing and does the complete opposite?

    Hypocrite.

    @73 – See ya in the next “Ninty” thread.

    Definition: Ninty – Word created by trolls to reference Nintendo. Can also be the way a small child, unable to pronounce more than two syllables, refers to Nintendo.

    #69 10 months ago
  70. sebastien rivas

    Finally a good news for Nintendo and Wiiu. Hope these numbers persist. Hopefully Devers will consider the platform in no record time.

    #70 10 months ago
  71. monkeygourmet

    @74

    Which is ironic considering the thread (rant) he made. Also PCbros, you should check this thread:

    http://www.vg247.com/2012/08/20/nintendo-were-not-milking-mario-franchise-iwata/comment-page-1/#comments

    Shows you how things have gone, and how people have changed their posting style to get more attention. It’s a long one but it’s good to have a bit of history now and again.

    #71 10 months ago
  72. Legendaryboss

    @74
    The difference is those things actually happened, do i have to link examples? Because I can remember them, one is even present. Francis can’t prove what hes saying i can.

    Titanfall = XB1 exclusive backtracked, make up a new definition of exclusive to fit Titanfall platforms. Didn’t research definition kept pursuing it as exclusive in a context.You just said the homeless man in this thread.

    I’m warning others of the trolls just so they know, nice that you think thats bad, nice that you think Francis is a troll proving that point further. Also he admitted he was one.

    The second time you have used hypocrite on me and it is invalid.

    @75
    It simply isn’t all whats happening now is giving me more incentive to revive it.

    #72 10 months ago
  73. Dragon

    @74,
    “Definition: Ninty – Word created by trolls to reference Nintendo. Can also be the way a small child, unable to pronounce more than two syllables, refers to Nintendo.”

    And here I thought you were a decent and respectful poster…

    #73 10 months ago
  74. Joe Musashi

    + 200% of [NO INFORMATION] is [NO INFORMATION]*. Had Nintendo seen fit to give meaningful information it might mean something. They chose not to do that. The information is meaningless due to the specific way it was delivered – which, of course, was no accident.

    The only way you can inject meaning here is to abandon logic and insert bias.

    Waving arms around and concocting melodramatic fallacies about hate is mere distraction. Some here are simply choosing not to abandon the real world in order to swallow vacuous PR spin.

    For a real world demonstration grab your calculator, switch it on and enter “+ 200%” and see what number it returns.

    There’s your meaning. There’s your worth. Now you can tell the world how much of a Nintendo hater your calculator is.

    JM

    *I refrain from using the word “nothing” because of the trauma and hyperbolic misinterpretation it will no doubt cause by the ultra-sensitive. But the result is actually the same.

    #74 10 months ago
  75. absolutezero

    “This thread has, as expected, gone the same way as multitude of other ninty defender threads.”

    So why not stay out of them?

    No really, what has been gained here? Look at the first page of the comments, there was one retarded Francis post and little else. Now look at it. I wonder what caused that?

    But but but I just want to talk about numbers ;_;

    #75 10 months ago
  76. monkeygourmet

    @79

    I do agree with you here (not using figures is a classic way out of showing the cold hard numbers). But, unless they are lying about TEH 200% completly, then it is a positive.

    Sales have gone up, may Nintendo hope that continues to a point they don’t mind actually sharing the figures.

    To make it out that this has changed the Wii U’s fortunes round would be wrong though, although I don’t really see any people jumping for joy here?

    #76 10 months ago
  77. polygem

    some people on the internet suffer from narcissistic personality disorder

    always remember that

    @joe: it’s loveley to see you calling others melodramatic-then you go on…like a weird emo queen

    you’re either a genius troll or you need professional help, or both

    #77 10 months ago
  78. Joe Musashi

    I’m not saying they’re lying. Just that they’re deliberately giving meaningless (and, to a degree, misleading) information and letting others inject meaning.

    It’s the same as saying “Yes, we are thinking about a Zelda game” or the “something something Zelda” statement, as I prefer to call it.

    In real terms it means diddly squat. But it’s a deliberate ploy to get the easily excited rushing to their keyboards to tell the rest of the world just what it means.

    Every faction has its zealots that will tirelessly spread the Good Word of their Lord to the heathen unbelievers in the hope of making them see the pure and holy light. Either that, or declare a digital jihad.

    Or there’s others that simply fling mud and call names over and over.

    JM

    #78 10 months ago
  79. polygem

    “Or there’s others that simply fling mud and call names over and over”

    like yourself?

    #79 10 months ago
  80. Joe Musashi

    Oy vey!

    JM

    #80 10 months ago
  81. monkeygourmet

    @84

    To be fair, Joe can keep pretty calm. It’s part of his thing, but occasionally he goes mental.

    I always imagine it as the Demon from the Exorcist when it’s giving you loads of shit when you are trying to exorcise it.

    He can get his shit coming thick and fast when he wants, it’s all part of the keyboard ‘fight’.

    #81 10 months ago
  82. Joe Musashi

    And, just like that, the derail was accomplished.

    JM

    #82 10 months ago
  83. polygem

    well joe, that you cannot see that your post nr.79 is actually an insult from start to finish is a bit disturbing. wrapping it in a semi-intellectual package does not change that fact.
    talking about contradiction.

    #83 10 months ago
  84. monkeygourmet

    @87

    Don’t pretend this dance had long out stayed it’s welcome. You keep people embracced any longer and you’ll go on the sex offenders register.

    It’s done, nothing else to be said.

    You yourself made the same point about 3 times, why on earth would you want to continue?

    #84 10 months ago
  85. monkeygourmet

    inb4 tag team

    #85 10 months ago
  86. Joe Musashi

    Whoomp. There it is.

    @90 Guilty conscience. Good. Good. A sliver of self awareness is finally starting to show through.

    After that you and your partner can just go back into denial-mode (already evidenced in the posts above) and return to trolling, insulting, stalking, harrassing and accusing everyone you don’t agree with whilst strutting about acting like you’re whiter than white.

    Same old, same old.

    JM

    #86 10 months ago
  87. pcbros

    @77 – “he makes comments without researching it first”

    Generalizing.

    I’m pretty sure everyone at one time has posted a comment that was later corrected. Actually, recently you were corrected about DriveClub PS+ version not being delayed, when it fact it is delayed. Isn’t that commenting without researching first? That makes you a hypocrite as well.

    “I’m warning others of the trolls just so they know”

    You’re exact words to others are, “stop feeding the trolls”. Yet, you continue to feed those whom you label “trolls”. Doesn’t get clearer.

    Perfect example in this very thread:

    @67 – “I’m not feeding you beyond @43 whats been said and still isn’t proven.” (Directed to Francis)

    @70 – You continue to feed.

    Hypocrite and lack of self-control.

    @78 – Calling people Ninty defenders isn’t exactly decent and respectful. Coming to a Nintendo thread and

    All I said at the beginning is that with the internet gamers are giving too much importance to the numbers. That’s my view. I don’t recall back in the old days going to the Toys R’ Us clerk and inquiring about sales figures before buying a game or console.

    You have your own view and that’s fine.

    @79 – But in the real world, those unannounced numbers exist. Just because they are unannounced doesn’t mean magically there were no prior sales.

    So you can enter ANY number you want on that calculator and multiply it by 200% and you will achieve a higher number than what you first entered.

    #87 10 months ago
  88. Joe Musashi

    “But in the real world, those unannounced numbers exist. Just because they are unannounced doesn’t mean magically there were no prior sales.”

    I never said that. Nor did I even imply it.

    “Just because they are unannounced..”

    Which is why the statement is meaningless. Its context and meaning has been deliberately removed.

    Do the calculator test.

    “So you can enter ANY number you want on that calculator and multiply it by 200%”

    Well done. You’ve not read and you’ve not understood.

    Do the calculator test using only the information provided by Nintendo’s PR statement. Do not add any information other than what they have seen fit to provide in their statement.

    Your result is the real-world worth of that statement.

    JM

    #88 10 months ago
  89. monkeygourmet

    Holy shit!!!

    Of course the number is at least 1!!!!

    I mean… WTF?! Why would they release ANY percentage if they knew they had either sold less or 0?! That would be the weirdest boost in hstory.

    If you want to follow logic, you have to start with at least 1.

    edit:

    If you want to nit pick, then yeah, put 0 down, -10, 10,000 whatever makes you feel good.

    #89 10 months ago
  90. Joe Musashi

    Bless. Logic really seems to offend some people.

    JM

    #90 10 months ago
  91. pcbros

    @93 – How about you put any number in your calculator and try the same test. Since the numbers exist, you can’t just put nothing. That just wouldn’t make any sense. How can something unknown be nothing?

    But since it’s unknown, I’ll let you pick any number that floats your boat. Even fractions…

    #91 10 months ago
  92. monkeygourmet

    @95

    But does it keep you warm in the middle of the night? – Shania Twain

    #92 10 months ago
  93. Joe Musashi

    Whether the numbers exist or not isn’t the thing that is making the PR statement meaningless.

    JM

    #93 10 months ago
  94. Legendaryboss

    @92
    “That makes you a hypocrite as well”
    I have already proven the second poor attempt wrong. “Titanfall = XB1 exclusive backtracked, make up a new definition of exclusive to fit Titanfall platforms. Didn’t research definition kept pursuing it as exclusive in a context” Unless refuted and doesn’t exist, this happened.

    “Isn’t that commenting without researching first? That makes you a hypocrite as well.”
    The difference is i did actually research as i stated but you conveniently forget, but the research itself was wrong (Not my research, not my error). Another attempt wrong. “Changed, misread another article.”
    http://www.vg247.com/2013/10/18/sony-confirms-driveclub-delay/comment-page-1/#comment-551552

    I’m not saying i don’t make mistakes (who doesn’t?) but i usually pick up on it when corrected either by myself or others, which is something you can’t do with XB1 exclusive Titanfall?

    “You continue to feed.”
    Not by my usual standards of arguing/feeding, at this point i just want him to prove his words which wasn’t in my @43 statement. “I’m not feeding you beyond @43 whats said” I’m pretty sure that meant i’m not feeding him beyond what i already said:

    What i said: “First. You will never find anywhere where i said anything about US or EU sales. Second. I’m not on VG247 24/7 made that comment then slept at a point. Third. You don’t know official EU sales, you only said US and you weren’t even sure what you thought when you said always/usually. Finally. You were right once compared to the many lists of wrongs.”

    He makes a new point with new factors @69 Then i resume to comment, because he said stuff beyond whats in @43. “I’m not feeding you beyond @43 whats been said and still isn’t proven.”

    “You’re exact words to others are, “stop feeding the trolls”. Yet, you continue to feed those whom you label “trolls”. Doesn’t get clearer.”
    Key word is others and me. I said feed you beyond the statements made at that post. But that is wrong: My exact words generally (not here) to others are “you do know person X is a troll?” Really, seriously? The stop feeding is implied by gods know what but not said.

    “Hypocrite and lack of self-control.”
    Disproven i have self-control when i most need it. The hypocrite part, the fourth time used and disproven.

    The only thing thats real sad, is how i disprove all of what your saying and you keep coming back with attempts at hypocrisy that fail to prove your points.

    #94 10 months ago
  95. pcbros

    @95 – You take things too literal.

    So if Sony announces, “We have more surprise exclusives for the PS4 launch.”

    Normal people would say, “Cool, maybe Uncharted 4 is coming” or “awesome can’t wait to find out”.

    You would translate it to: “Since no exact number was given of how many surprise exclusives are coming, the above statement is meaningless. In fact, using only the information provided we can conclude that MORE of [NOTHING] equals [NOTHING].”

    #95 10 months ago
  96. pcbros

    @99 – “The difference is i did the research as i stated but you conveniently forget, but the research itself was wrong (Not my research, not my error). Another attempt wrong.”

    Pretty sure you said you “misread another article”. Doesn’t that mean the article was correct but you misread it?

    EDIT: Could you provide the link of the article that stated DriveClub PS+ was not delayed?

    Also, in that same Titanfall example you love to swing around, I did say immediately that I meant it was coming out for the XB1 and not the PS4 (Link). But you conveniently forgot that too.

    “Didn’t research definition kept pursuing it as exclusive in a context”

    So now you are a liar. Read the thread (Link). Never did I insist in calling it an exclusive. I even said that calling it an exclusive was a poor choice of words

    Maybe you should do more research before you comment.

    “He makes a new point with new factors @69″

    Now I understand. We should not feed or continue to feed the “trolls” unless they make new points. Ok, got it.

    #96 10 months ago
  97. Joe Musashi

    @100 “You take things too literal.”

    Ugh.

    No, I take them for what they are and don’t dance the dance that the PR man tells me to dance.

    It is no accident that context and meaning was removed from the PR statement. I am not the one concocting meaning and inserting information into something that has had both extracted deliberately.

    Your cute go-to Sony ploy attempt at flipping this around also doesn’t work. But it’s says a lot that you feel the need to fictionalise even more information to argue with.

    JM

    #97 10 months ago
  98. Francis O

    Joe, there are numbers.

    The Wii U sold around 34K in the August NPD

    The sales were 200% increase month on month

    Therefore the sales are around 90-100k

    Which is a massive improvement from before. And shows that people will buy the Wii U when there is more software available.

    November is packed with great games as well. Super Mario 3D World is going to sell a lot of Wii U’s

    #98 10 months ago
  99. Joe Musashi

    Yup, still missing the point. Still doing the PR man’s work.

    JM

    #99 10 months ago
  100. polygem

    article:

    “Nintendo has announced excellent sales results for both the Wii U and 3DS”

    “The significant sales surge is almost certainly the result of a price cut”

    some take that for what it is: good news

    others are making a caricature of themselves again trying to spin it.

    #100 10 months ago
  101. Legendaryboss

    @101
    “Doesn’t that mean the article was correct but you misread it?”
    Another article means i’m looking at two articles or possibly more at that point in time, two containing the same theme, i misread the article that was wrong in favour of one that wasn’t: messed up message and then corrected by others. Hence “Changed, misread another article.”

    “So now you are a liar.” I’m referring to this
    The definition was put in front of you but you said “do you feel it’s ok to call Titanfall an XB1 exclusive in the context of PS4/XB1?” Thats what i’m talking about, a game is exclusive only in that definition context or in timed or in PC/another console.

    “Never did I insist in calling it an exclusive.” In a context? “Didn’t research definition kept pursuing it as exclusive in a context” “Do you feel it’s ok to call Titanfall an XB1 exclusive in the context of PS4/XB1?” I know what i’m remembering, not that article.
    http://www.vg247.com/2013/10/16/ps4-vs-xbox-one-sonys-launch-line-up-is-populous-but-whimsical/#comment-550762

    “We should not feed or continue to feed the “trolls” unless they make new points.” Not what i said.

    I never phrased it like that, did you even read what i said? I said I’m not feeding you beyond @43 whats said I’m pretty sure that meant i’m not feeding him beyond what i already said, so when a new point is made with factors that aren’t in @43, its being resumed.

    #101 10 months ago
  102. monkeygourmet

    @LBoss

    There is no denying you feed Francis up like a prize goose. Thats kind of plain to see really.

    Generally if there’s a Nintendo article, your first contribution is something along the lines of:

    “In before Francis xxx” (paraphrase obviously).

    That is passive aggresive no matter how you look at it. When Francis then makes his appearance, it’s:

    “Called it”. Again, passive aggressive.

    I can see why the suggestion of you calling out trolls is being hypocritical seeing as you have the biggest supply of troll food from where I’m standing.

    Super3000?

    “Hey everyone, don’t feed the MS troll” etc, etc…

    Troll hunting is a noble hobby, but your technique seems to create more of them?

    Something isn’t working…

    #102 10 months ago
  103. monkeygourmet

    Anyway… Another 100+ Nintendo thread, still the most popular company on VG247. You can see why Pat use’s Nintendo adverts everywhere.

    It’s what the people want!

    #103 10 months ago
  104. Joe Musashi

    Some make a point of not spinning an article and take it for what it is rather than oversell it by adding bias and playing the PR man’s game.

    Beware those so tightly gripped by PR or bias that they can’t tell up from down and are offended by those that don’t succumb to the same level of manipulation.

    The upset, hypocrisy and offense demonstrated by some when others refuse to fall for PR, buzzwords and spin is both tragic and farcical.

    @106 What’s been written in black and white is so ceaselessly spun and twisted to serve agendas. The constant efforts at fiction, dismissal and obtuse misinterpretation in this, ahem, discussion are like a perfect storm.

    JM

    #104 10 months ago
  105. pcbros

    @106 – So, can you link the article that was wrong (regarding DriveClub not being delayed)? Sounds like it would make for fun reading.

    “The definition was put in front of you but you said ‘do you feel it’s ok to call Titanfall an XB1 exclusive in the context of PS4/XB1?’”

    I only asked because YOU said referring to calling a game exclusive or not… “In this scenario of two platforms? Okay.”

    I said the article misspoke calling those games exclusives. I was pretty clear about the definition. You are the one that introduced the whole “in the context of XB1 vs PS4″.

    “I never phrased it like that, did you even read what i said? I said I’m not feeding you beyond @43 whats said I’m pretty sure that meant i’m not feeding him beyond what i already said, so when a new point is made with factors that aren’t in @43, its being resumed.”

    Ok, let’s see here… you are not feeding him beyond @43 (check), but when he makes a new point with factors that aren’t in @43, it’s being resumed (check).

    I said, “We should not feed or continue to feed the “trolls” unless they make new points.”

    Did you not continue to feed him because he made a new point?

    Are you not reading this?

    #105 10 months ago
  106. Legendaryboss

    @Monkey
    I have covered this in immense detail, anymore detail and i’ll just get tired.

    #106 10 months ago
  107. Legendaryboss

    @109
    Yeah.

    @110
    “You are the one that introduced the whole “in the context of XB1 vs PS4″.” In response to someone else. “In this scenario of two platforms? Okay.” Went over that.

    “We should not feed or continue to feed the “trolls” unless they make new points.” “Did you not continue to feed him because he made a new point? Are you not reading this?”

    What? It seems like your not reading/fully understanding what i’m saying, I’m reading and understanding what your saying perfectly clear. Why are you taking my point and globalising it to trolls, i only stated Francis?

    “Ok, let’s see here… you are not feeding him beyond @43 (check), but when he makes a new point with factors that aren’t in @43, it’s being resumed (check).” So what you said previously has been disproven by you after lots of clarification?

    So i’m no longer feeding him its the above. So i’m no longer misread a article but another/two articles etc. etc.

    Case closed.

    #107 10 months ago
  108. pcbros

    109- “Some make a point of not spinning an article and take it for what it is rather than oversell it by adding bias and playing the PR man’s game.”

    Some make a point of taking life too seriously, playing the philosopher card and attempting to be of a higher class.

    #108 10 months ago
  109. monkeygourmet

    @111

    I’m honestly not sure where? You do play a good game of bait and switch though, I’ll give you that.

    It works better when you don’t frequent the same hunting ground though.

    #109 10 months ago
  110. polygem

    @109: it’s an article saying nintendo announced good sales for wiiu and 3ds.
    let people be positive about that will you?
    no bias needed. no blindness. noone is automatically avoiding reality by saying, hey, that’s good to hear. no need for your trademark camouflage insults.
    you say it makes no sense to discuss this because we have no real numbers.
    this makes no sense because by your own logic: if we don’t have numbers…how can you know that it’s only PR?
    contradictions.

    #110 10 months ago
  111. Legendaryboss

    @114
    Well compared to my usual arguments it is usually more than two posts and has a lot more depth. Is it worse or better? Um, okay on the rest?

    #111 10 months ago
  112. Joe Musashi

    @113 Yeah. That’s a great – because being dismissive and petulant remarks always addresses all those holes in your previous wonky arguments!

    And others trying to spin “not playing the PR man’s game” as a half dozen other things.

    So much effort at fictionalising, concocting and fabricating. It’s truly no wonder that many simply can’t see straight.

    JM

    #112 10 months ago
  113. Hcw87

    @107
    Agree 100%. When it comes to hypocrites and feeders of fanboys there are none worse really.

    I don’t see why he even made the thread on the forum complaining about fanboy wars when he starts one in EVERY SINGLE NINTENDO THREAD.

    #113 10 months ago
  114. pcbros

    @112 – “I Went over that.”

    So did I, but you keep bringing it up.

    “‘We should not feed or continue to feed the trolls unless they make new points.’ Not what i said.”

    Now I see the game you are playing. You didn’t exactly say those exact words but it’s what you meant.

    Either way, the fact is you continue to feed “trolls” as long as they bringing up new points. The key being you continue to feed them. So while you righteously tell others to stop feeding them, you continue to do so.

    Btw, still waiting for that “article” you found… I’d hate to think you lied about that article to cover up your lack of research.

    If you try hard enough maybe you can actually google such an article.

    #114 10 months ago
  115. polygem

    “So much effort at fictionalising, concocting and fabricating. It’s truly no wonder that many simply can’t see straight.

    JM”

    you made a definition of yourself and signed it. thank you for that. it was overdue. i think you’re making progress. i’m proud of you!

    #115 10 months ago
  116. monkeygourmet

    Holy shit! PCBros is getting forced into a corner once again! :/

    He doesn’t fucking own a Nintendo machine yet he’s succumb to the genius of Nintendos PR wizards.

    Joe used to direct this kind of venom at the VG247 staff for printing such nonsense without having solid figures to back it up, how times have changed…

    #116 10 months ago
  117. Joe Musashi

    Point proven.

    JM

    #117 10 months ago
  118. monkeygourmet

    @118

    Yep. Fuel for the fire and all that.

    #118 10 months ago
  119. polygem

    woops…stealthed? but no problem, i was fast. we can file it under edited.
    this is just a videogame related thread.
    i love you all.
    i mean seriously. as much as i dislike some of your guys attitude and posting style, i’m sure we’d all have fun hanging out together in a bar fighting over videogames.
    remember, don’t be an ass.
    behave.
    good night and peace and all!

    #119 10 months ago
  120. pcbros

    @117 – Enjoy life in the 27th dimension. Send my regards to the Minutiae Kingdom.

    @118 – He even instigates them. In the Sonic Lost World article you can see how he tries to bate Francis.

    Also, “in before Francis” in this very article, is bait.

    #120 10 months ago
  121. monkeygourmet

    Night night Poly, remember to take your lube and Wiimote to bed! :D

    #121 10 months ago
  122. Legendaryboss

    @118
    “when he starts one in EVERY SINGLE NINTENDO THREAD.” Thats wrong on all levels, i don’t start it and partake in it. Big difference.
    But
    http://www.vg247.com/2013/10/15/ironfall-is-3ds-cover-shooter-website-and-first-screen-revealed/#comment-549949
    http://www.vg247.com/2013/10/11/pokemon-x-y-street-date-intentionally-broke-by-high-street-retailers-in-the-uk/#comment-549041
    Personally created: http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=47800
    http://www.vg247.com/2013/10/11/wii-u-hardware-sales-jump-685-in-uk-thanks-to-wind-waker-hd-release/#comment-548850
    I could link more, but i’m not. But disproven.
    “fanboy wars” Never was that word used mentioned in the rant, it was rant about problems seen not wars.

    @119
    “but it’s want you meant” Says who? Thats right no one.

    “So while you righteously tell others to stop feeding them, you continue to do so.” Your answer explains this “Ok, let’s see here… you are not feeding him beyond @43 (check), but when he makes a new point with factors that aren’t in @43, it’s being resumed (check).” In this scenario the feeding is conditional and me warning others does not have the word feeding, it is alerting to them person X is a troll. Already stated. Again i point out to them person X is a troll, did not say stop feeding.

    The article? Do you honestly think i still have that article? I delete my history at a certain time-point plus i was on mobile and i am not going out of my depth to search for it and link it just for your satisfaction and what if the article has been edited what do i do then?

    Now i’m done with you unless something substantial comes along which cannot be disproven, good luck you will need it based on your failed attempts so far.

    @125
    See @127 links, but no to your comment: at best see @123

    #122 10 months ago
  123. pcbros

    @121 – I think the fact I don’t own a Wii U, kind of proves I have not been brainwashed by the PR ;)

    #123 10 months ago
  124. polygem

    oh, i wont be sleeping. i am chanting the nintendo mantra while balancing on my wiiboard, wearing princess peach pyiamas.

    #124 10 months ago
  125. monkeygourmet

    @128

    But that’s what the PR wants you to think…! :)

    @129

    :D

    #125 10 months ago
  126. Legendaryboss

    One more thing before i stop commenting on this thread for the time being, its positive that the Wii U is selling well ATM maybe that was a point forgotten after i was being name-called a liar, an instigator of fanboys wars in every Nintendo thread and hypocrite. Which was then disproven, oh the sadness.

    Of after i mentioned it in of the one those threads.

    @Monkey
    I have told you many times why my gifs are used and if you take them seriously then by that logic i jump out the window abandoning thread, it is used to predict stuff like this and is unrelated to the above, which was disproven. I have every right to complain or in this case comment on something, more so when it is not valid.

    #126 10 months ago
  127. monkeygourmet

    @131

    Name calling is different than being called a liar or hypocrite.

    I think if you start to become known for your goading *.gifs and comments to the point where it almost becomes your catchphrase, you can’t really complain if you get called on it.

    You can’t have it both ways my liege.

    #127 10 months ago
  128. pcbros

    @127 – “In this scenario the feeding is conditional and me warning others does not have the word feeding, it is alerting to them person X is a troll.

    Again i point out to them person X is a troll, did not say stop feeding

    Comment #3
    Comment #11

    You should probably research your own comments better.

    #128 10 months ago
  129. monkeygourmet

    @133

    Yep.

    #129 10 months ago
  130. wildBoar

    Who are these people, and why do they have soo much time on their hands?

    Life certainly is mysterious..

    #130 10 months ago
  131. Legendaryboss

    @133
    Missed a word somewhere but what i should have said somewhere “My exact words ‘generally’ (not here) to others are “you do know person X is a troll?” Really, seriously?” @99 Try again. Generally: “in general terms; without regard to particulars or exceptions.” So if fed is included you know why. Like i said everybody makes mistakes, in this case a tiny one.

    So yes generally, its a little sad that you went back months backward to prove another disproven point.

    “You should probably research your own comments better.” Why would I when you strangely doing it for me?
    http://www.vg247.com/2013/10/16/xbox-one-new-video-explains-why-its-build-for-the-future-watch-here/comment-page-1/#comment-550323

    #131 10 months ago
  132. Francis O

    LegendaryDamage Control, Joe MuDamage Control, Damage Control Dragon

    - You guys have been some of the hardest critics on Wii U based on nothing but sales data.

    - Some of you guys have said the Wii U is dead or incurred that it is dead like when the Media Create sales charts when up this week.

    - Yet you guys failed to realize the Wii U is getting new cheap bundles in Japan on October 31st. Why would anybody go out and buy a Wii U in Japan now, when you can wait a couple weeks and get 3 games packed in for the same price?

    Joe keeps on saying 200% of nothing is nothing. But he fails to realize that many people do actually have access to the numbers, they are just not allowed to leak it out.

    The Wii U did sell around 34K in August. 200% increase equals 91K-100 this isn’t speculation or rumors. Its fact.

    #132 10 months ago
  133. Legendaryboss

    @135
    I would have left, if not called a hypocrite and liar.

    @137
    Prove it in my case. You won’t but its fun to dream.
    “its positive that the Wii U is selling well ATM maybe that was a point forgotten after i was being name-called a liar, an instigator of fanboys wars in every Nintendo thread and hypocrite. Which was then disproven, oh the sadness. Of after i mentioned it in of the one those threads.” (Above) I can prove otherwise, a theme too recurrent here.

    @PCbros
    Now your freaking me out going back months to past articles to try and prove me wrong. Key word is try.

    #133 10 months ago
  134. Legendaryboss

    @PCbros
    Anyway keep on trying and failing, note the further you go back the more you creep me out.

    #134 10 months ago
  135. Legendaryboss

    Addition: Nah no your just being butthurt, for the sake of it or maybe after being proved wrong so many times i don’t know

    So to end my input, any comment after this you have won: just to appease you and to stop you wasting your time on going back to past articles and linking to prove future disproven points.

    #135 10 months ago
  136. monkeygourmet

    Someone didn’t want to go to bed with a negative interpretation of themselves in their head…

    #136 10 months ago
  137. Legendaryboss

    @141
    Bed? Not at this time its the weekend movies and TV to watch :) after the hell that is the weekday :( or are you talking to someone else? :?

    #137 10 months ago
  138. Legendaryboss

    Anyway off to BBC Three to watch Family Guy/American Dad, need something to cheer me up after the hell that was PCbros as going out like 15 mins at 9:45 only helped a bit.

    #138 10 months ago
  139. pcbros

    @136 – “Missed a word somewhere but what i should have said…”

    Sounds like backtracking to me.

    You tell people not to feed trolls (I’m not the only one who has seen this, read other comments). But you continue to feed them. Then you say, “Wait! I only fed him because he brought up a new point”. Then you say, “Wait! I only tell people UserX is a troll, I don’t tell others not to feed them”.

    I proved you have indeed told people not to feed trolls and you have proven in this article how you continue to feed them.

    First you said you don’t say it. I prove you wrong. Then you say you don’t generally say it.

    Here’s the thing… you can’t judge someone because of a few comments and expect not to be judge by a few of your own.

    “a little sad that you went back months ahead to prove another disproven point.”

    It’s called research and I think my point is well proven.

    @138 – “Now your freaking me out going back months to past articles to try and prove me wrong.”

    I guess some people think they can hide what they have said and no one will bother to dig it up to prove them wrong.

    @140 – “So to end my input, any comment after this you have won: just to appease you and to stop you wasting your time on going back to past articles and linking to prove future disproven points.”

    Hope you find that article someday but to appease you, I will pretend you did indeed find it.

    #139 10 months ago
  140. Hcw87

    @144
    Me and Monkey can back you up, we can all see his hypocritism.

    >Makes forum post complaining about fanboy wars, Sony/Ms fanboys etc.
    >Procedes to laying the bait himself: http://www.vg247.com/2013/10/17/wii-u-sales-up-200-in-september-3ds-best-selling-us-console-npd/comment-page-1/#comment-551279

    ^
    Act of a hypocrite.

    #140 10 months ago
  141. polygem

    i’m still awake. shit. have to get up early tomorrow. going on a weekend trip which my gf organised and i have no clue what it is.

    keep it up guys!

    #141 10 months ago
  142. Legendaryboss

    @145
    Hmm? I told you that forum thread wasn’t about fanboy wars but keep overlooking, that was a thought/rant thread.

    Hypocrisy? After telling you that wasn’t a fanboy wars thread and just a rant based on thoughts (Which was stated), you still perceive it as one.

    The fact that i disproved the notion fanboy wars in every Nintendo article by linking the above just proves i can’t take you or your creepy PCbros pal (BTW I’ll could repeat myself to disprove you but promised not to for your supposed victory, keep being butthurt its obvious) seriously.

    #142 10 months ago
  143. monkeygourmet

    @poly

    She’s going to take you out into a forest…

    There’s an open hole in the ground…

    She’s going to whip off her top to reveal a tattoo of the PS4…

    Your going to try and run… She’s bearing down on you, She’s now flailing PS Move controllers at you… Your screaming…

    She’s gaining ground… You try and reason with her but she’s just parappa rapping… You can’t make out what she wants….

    And… Finally (after you trip while admiring a mushroom that looks like toad), she pounces…

    Next day you are found with 6 PSmove controllers in your body…do you still want to sleep? ;)

    #143 10 months ago
  144. Hcw87

    @147
    Oh right, a few posts where you actually praise some Nintendo games completely refutes the claim that you instigate fanboy wars. Not really.

    I see you and Francis go back and forth pretty much every day, and i actually think you enjoy it personally. Perhaps you get some weird sense of accomplishment by predicting a messy thread and it turns out exactly that because you keep going back and forth with everyone who are proving you wrong (PCBros is an example here).

    #144 10 months ago
  145. pcbros

    @147 – “your creepy PCbros pal (BTW I’ll could repeat myself to disprove you but promised not to for your supposed victory, keep being butthurt its obvious) seriously.”

    Creepy pal? lol… no self-control.

    Says he won’t post anything else towards me and he has to sneak one in through a comment directed to Hcw87.

    #145 10 months ago
  146. monkeygourmet

    @149

    “…and i actually think you enjoy it personally…”

    Bang on.

    And another 150 a Nintendo thread :)

    #146 10 months ago
  147. Legendaryboss

    @149
    I don’t instigate them, i take part in them again big difference.

    Oh no it refutes the original claim of it happening in every Nintendo article, which was your original point in capital letters? Now it is no longer being used now in favour of something lesser.

    You think? Well you keep thinking because it will never be true.

    Proving me wrong? Everyone? Its primarily one person on that crusade and it is a failed one: If you kept track no ones proved anything because i kept disproving.

    @Annoyance: Ended my input (proof/comments on that failed crusade) so you would win, a promise is a promise. Doesn’t equal not acknowledging you or ignoring. So i dunno where “he says” comes into this.

    #147 10 months ago
  148. Legendaryboss

    @151
    Nope, the fact that i have to keep providing clarification and disproving comments, is tiring more like.

    And unless stated by me, its only his made up opinion.

    #148 10 months ago
  149. monkeygourmet

    @LBoss

    “I don’t instigate them, i take part in them again big difference.”

    I’m sorry, that isn’t entirely true. You can’t instigate then feign innocence when it suits you.

    Historically, you are involved in these type of threads, especially involving Francis and Clup (who has TRUTHFULLY stopped bothering to reply to him…)

    If you can’t see why people don’t think you relish in this, gif posting, goading etc… Maybe you have more of an elevated view of yourself than you realised?

    You are: Legendary Boss after all?

    #149 10 months ago
  150. ManuOtaku

    For one it is good to see that they are new people on the Nintendo Defence Force, go guys.

    For this topic at hand, i think this will be the first step in the recovery of the WiiU based on more games available and a fixed price, now they need to bundle for free the pro controller.

    As for the 200% increase, if even companies give and provide data about negative things like accidents, fatalities, and professional illness, indicating an increase of lets say …200%, even if it is only one more case, for them it is really a big difference one more affected life, therefore i think is not the % that is important is the situation involved, for nintendo is a big thing because they arent selling good and now they are seeing an increas, which is good on all accords.

    #150 10 months ago
  151. Legendaryboss

    @154
    Its not innocence and you just proved my point about being part of those arguements/involved. The goading may have instigated the argument but it was the now disproven labels that influenced it to this far.

    From @2 to @43 the argument is still present

    Okay yes the goading i accept, the gifs already covered.

    As for my view if you look back on that rant you can see i admit i’m a hypocrite in real life and generally not on here, i can also accept criticism if valid but my problem is being called a hypocrite and other things for reasons invalid. Also having someone digging through months old articles for my comments is real strange and rubbed me the wrong way.

    #151 10 months ago
  152. monkeygourmet

    Yay! Manu is back! it’s like a rare pokemon has landed in a clearing! :)

    #152 10 months ago
  153. Francis O

    @156

    Legendarytalker

    Damn dude, you’re dancing in this thread like a fucking idiot, despite getting called out by everybody here.

    You can’t fool anyone. You don’t like Nintendo’s games, you’re a Sony fan. I don’t see why you get involved with Nintendo news.

    I have a PS3, a Xbox 360, PC, Wii U, and have regular access to a Vita. And if PS VitaTV comes to america, I’ll buy one day one.

    You know you’re not getting a Wii U, you know you don’t like Nintendo’s games, yet you’re on every single Nintendo story.

    #153 10 months ago
  154. Legendaryboss

    @158
    So the links shown previously didn’t do it for you? Me saying Wii U selling well in this article? Nothing? A shame when what i said is pushed aside for your conspiracy. I try harder to please Master Francis.

    You know that i know i ain’t getting a Wii U? Hm? thats close to a FRIENDS TV show quote: Are you forbidding me from purchasing?

    “Dance dance dance, like its the last last night of your life, so baby tonight DJ got us falling in love again, love again” Cheer up Francis its not all bad in that world of yours.

    #154 10 months ago
  155. ManuOtaku

    Monkey dont mention Pokemon, it has the sort of PR data spin that some people will find it disgusting and sickening ;)

    #155 10 months ago
  156. monkeygourmet

    @manu

    Nothing sickening about Pokemon:

    http://whitetie57.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/pikachu-vagina.jpg

    Scaryfilename.jpg…

    Anyway, good to have you back! :)

    #156 10 months ago
  157. Legendaryboss

    @161
    :D

    #157 10 months ago
  158. ManuOtaku

    Monkey LOL

    #158 10 months ago
  159. monkeygourmet

    Okay guys…! Cut!!!

    That’s a wrap!

    It was a great take (I think were goin’ to keep it in the movie…)

    Let’s keep that energy going tomorrow!

    :D

    #159 10 months ago
  160. Max Pain

    #22 CPC_RedDawn: Maybe you should study math a bit more. :|

    #25 pcbros: Thanks for pointing that out. :)

    #160 10 months ago
  161. pcbros

    @152 – EDIT: Ignore my post. It’s not worth it. But in all honesty, you come off as having an excuse for everything.

    Being humble is a virtue, not a weakness.

    @155 – I don’t own a Wii U yet but I do enjoy what they offer to gaming. I grew up on that stuff and they offer probably the best family friendly games.

    @165 – No prob ;)

    #161 10 months ago
  162. Legendaryboss

    @166
    Oh i’m so sorry if me disproving you equals making up excuses, i’m no pushover: i fail to see why i should be labeled incorrectly, sit back and take it.

    Being humble? Looks like @156 doesn’t do anything for you either, how fitting. Looks like me making admitting to a mistake which was corrected by others didn’t count either. I could go on but its being overlooked again.

    Okay looks like we are done here.

    #162 10 months ago
  163. Francis O

    Legendaryfool

    Dude, I have never seen somebody dance so much in a single thread.

    I thought the Wii U is dead? You said you echo Dragon’s statements when the Media Create was released on Wednesday.

    LOL, this story is especially sweet because its only the beginning. Wait till Super Mario 3D World comes out, and Mario Kart, And the next real Zelda.

    You’re going to be dancing like a fool again.

    #163 10 months ago
  164. Legendaryboss

    @168
    My name is legendaryboss and i dance in the threads, whatever that means oh i wish i was a big fan of dancing. Hm? No, just no. Doesn’t suit me.

    “So yeah like Dragon said about Wii U at a point” What i said, this is the point i was referring when he said its “sad indeed” Thats the point: picturing otherwise is being in your world. But you said it was Dragon who uses Media Create to doom Wii U, i wonder why i was left out then but added now? Questions questions.

    Wait until? Well it is better now that your using actual system sellers (This acknowledgment overlooked i bet) in regards to Wii U selling more (Another acknowledgment overlooked again i bet) in spite of every exclusive will help/save Wii U. Wonder why you dropped Sonic Lost World (you used it in the Media Create article)? Or The Wonderful 101? Or Pikmin 3? X? You shocked me leaving this good one out, oh positive Nintendo comment will be overlooked again, sigh…

    So thank you for proving my point.

    #164 10 months ago
  165. dreamcastnews

    I don’t think Legendary Boss is the problem here, Francis. Looking over Nintendo threads it’s usually Dragon who, although comes out with factual based comments; can often spiral into what looks like a dislike for Nintendo, stating the obvious time and time again and baiting those who do like the company.

    #165 10 months ago
  166. monkeygourmet

    @170

    “3DS is doing well, pity the Wii U is dead now on lfe support, prob won’t last till christmas at this rate.”

    Something like that? Am I doing it right?

    A compliment is used to ‘hide’ the ‘meat’ of what he wanted to say. First rule in trolling really, pretty standard.

    Passive aggresive and provoking.

    #166 10 months ago
  167. Dragon

    “Looking over Nintendo threads it’s usually Dragon who, although comes out with factual based comments; can often spiral into what looks like a dislike for Nintendo, stating the obvious time and time again
    Yes. So I am the problem in stating the obvious and factually accurate statements. And people aren’t for taking offence to factually correct statements that doesn’t involve an iota of personal insult.
    Okay then.

    Btw, I wonder where you all guys are when I do the same for Sony or MS or Vita? Why is it that only one particular set of people here gets riled up by facts? Surely we can avoid all these bickering if all of us can be more accommodating?
    Questions questions.

    Some points I would like to make-
    1. I sincerely apologize if anyone got personally hurt by my comments. They never meant to hurt anyone. (to you specially pcbros)
    2. I think there is enough room (or comment space :P ) to have differing opinions on a topic. There is no need to divert to personal insults when you only have diverging opinions, isn’t it?
    3. I agree with fearmonkey that its rather silly to hope any big company to die. Why would you want thousands of people to lose their livelihood. I dont think there is any need to clarify, but I doubt anyone of this thread wants Ninty to die. That would only lessen the competition for consumers and again, thousands will lose their jobs. Though that isn’t a valid argument to gag others to not talk the truth about Ninty at all now, is there?

    #171 is pretty good case study of a hardcore fan personally insulting others for publishing true facts about their favourite company. I am very interested to see how people subscribe to such personal mudslinging.

    This continuous drive of insults and going around in circles in every thread is getting very tedious. And frankly, I am quite sure many people on VG247 would be laughing seeing this thread, knowing how repetitive this thing has gone.
    Enjoy yourselves. Live and let live.

    #167 10 months ago
  168. monkeygourmet

    @Dragon

    More lies, im surprised you managed to write that.

    #168 10 months ago
  169. monkeygourmet

    But, when it boils down to it, the numbers vs. quality arguement has become somewhat clouded with people from either side stepping over lines that either show unrealistic expectations or gleeful relish when something fails.

    gleeful relish.

    #169 10 months ago
  170. Francis O

    Both Dragon and Legendary are dancing in this thread like idiots because it was only Wednesday they where dooming the Wii U to hell.

    You guys are unable to look into the future and see that Nintendo has software that will sell systems.

    Systems just don’t sell on their own. If you think these sales are ok, wait till Mario Kart 8 comes out, or the next Zelda, or Smash Bros…the list goes on and on.

    You guys aren’t worried about Nintendo games actually being good, you’re just worried about sales so you can bash Nintendo.

    Both of you guys won’t be playing the Wii U, so thats why you guys are so quick to bash the Wii U’s software and system.

    Dragon, why are you even commenting so much on Nintendo games? You know you’re a Sony fan. Just stick to Sony articles.

    #170 10 months ago
  171. dreamcastnews

    @172 my problem, if you want to call it that is that it’s ALL THE TIME with you, the majority of us ‘get’ the shit that Nintendo could potentially be in if the U doesn’t start pulling it’s socks up and as a fan (not fanboy) of the brand I don’t really require reminding.

    I understand you’re just posting facts, I get that and don’t think I’m totally singling you out but you’re certainly a main exponent of calling Francis out for his (often blinded) passion of the brand.

    Forgive me if I’m wrong about you, but it does seem to seem to have a sneer in you smile about Nintendo products not leaving up to the expectations.

    EDIT: @175, you’re not helping dude. I get what you’re saying but you are also guilty of baiting both Dragon and Legendaryboss.

    #171 10 months ago
  172. Francis O

    Legendaryidiot

    “Wonder why you dropped Sonic Lost World (you used it in the Media Create article)? Or The Wonderful 101? Or Pikmin 3? X? You shocked me leaving this good one out, oh positive Nintendo comment will be overlooked again, sigh…”

    - I don’t use the same damn list every time, I just bring up games in my head. Wonderful 101, Pikmin 3, X, all help sell the Wii U. Just as Shin Megami Tensei X Fire Emblem, Zelda Wii U, and Wii Sports club will.

    When people are looking for a system, they just don’t look at one game. They look at all the content the system has to offer.

    Monolith Soft’s X is next year, I think that will help push Wii U’s as well. And Pikmin 3 did help sell the Wii U.

    My problem with you is this. Why are you so fixated with the sales? There are a ton of great games out and coming to Wii U. You know good and well you’re not going to play any of these Wii U games I am mentioning.

    So do you only comment on the Wii U to bash it like you did with the Media Create?

    I could go to every single SOny thread and mention how shitty the Vita is doing….or talk about how its doomed….but I don’t. Yet everytime there is a Nintendo article. You and Dragon are here spewing random junk.

    Just stick to Sony dude.

    #172 10 months ago
  173. Legendaryboss

    Why am i fixated sales? Nope. Were you not talking about in that media create article about Wind Waker Sales in the US? Don’t you always say once a certain amount of games release sales of Wii U would be…?
    You know that i know i ain’t playing those games mentioned? Stop stealing FRIENDS quotes!
    Bash the Wii U? Media Create? Not only did i disprove that, I never said Wii U is doomed in there, its you who came to that conclusion.
    Oh but PS Vita is doing shitty as is Wii U, same situation: the difference is one gets flacks and the other rarely does. Another difference is i generally do not use the word doomed/shitty. Every time? Someone said something like that, eventually disproven: nowhere to be seen now.

    But to put my cards on the table:
    PS Vita is doing shitty outside japan.
    Software sales are poor outside Japan.
    SCEE/SCEA don’t do collaborations like SCEJ did with Toukiden.
    Most third parties aren’t supporting it.
    Crap marketing, across-the-board.
    Not enough AAA exclusives for 2014. I’ll wait for that shitstorm, if any. Doesn’t look like it.

    I’ll stick to what i want to, oh thanks again proving my point about overlooking the positive comment about X and acknowledgment of system sellers.

    #173 10 months ago
  174. monkeygourmet

    200… Here we come!

    http://mikhail.kyraha.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/bush_binoculars.jpg

    #174 10 months ago
  175. Legendaryboss

    Now i am definitely dancing out of this thread, being disproved so many times must upset people on a failed crusade here. And they all exhibit different patterns, some more creepy than others. Apparently repeating myself isn’t helping, so dancing out of here is what helps.

    @Monkey
    Nice to know i have taken zero responsibility? Am i getting through to anyone? I did not say that, you are, NOT ME: what is going on here? Am i not speaking any english? So making predictive/goading comments is the same as help creating? I said i involve myself in this and you did too (involve does not equal create) so yes some responsibility is on me, but not only me this argument was only extended by one person and involved various people. Pinning this on me and forgetting the others involved, is narrow-minded.

    Also was it wrong?

    #175 10 months ago
  176. monkeygourmet

    @180

    Nice to know you’ve taken zero responsibility for some of the things you help create.

    @2

    “In before Francis fanboy nonsense.
    In before shitstorm.”

    That never fails to create situations like this, and you know this.

    One could go so far and say it’s what helps CREATE the ‘shit storm’…

    #176 10 months ago
  177. dreamcastnews

    It’s true that we get things that ‘trigger’ these epic threads, I wouldn’t put the blame on any one member though… I think sometimes we are all as bad as each other.

    #177 10 months ago
  178. absolutezero

    I hate you people.

    lol WINKY FACE

    #178 10 months ago
  179. monkeygourmet

    @182

    Of course, but trying to seperate yourself or feign ignorance just doesn’t work.

    #179 10 months ago
  180. pcbros

    As I read this thread I picture a group of people shooting their guns towards Legendary’s feet while he dances around in a panic.

    @167 – I tried to end it in a civilized manner. But you obviously enjoy this, so to appease you, I will continue.

    Let’s bring up some more of your crap…

    #131 – “its positive that the Wii U is selling well ATM maybe that was a point forgotten”

    Forgotten? Didn’t you say in #58, “Its only positive if the initial figure is big. If so we wouldn’t need to be told so in percentages.

    #139 – “note the further you go back the more you creep me out”

    Translation: “Please don’t find more examples of my hypocrisy.”

    #140 – “So to end my input, any comment after this you have won”

    #147 – “BTW I’ll could repeat myself to disprove you but promised not to for your supposed victory, keep being butthurt its obvious”

    Another input on the same topic. Childishly hidden in a post directed to someone else. No self-control and a liar.

    #152 – “@Annoyance: Ended my input (proof/comments on that failed crusade) so you would win, a promise is a promise.”

    #147 proves this statement wrong.

    “@Annoyance?” Is that bait so I can call you Legendary@ss, Legendaryliar, or Legendaryhypocrite?

    #156 – “i admit i’m a hypocrite in real life and generally not on here”

    You just proved our point.

    #156 – “Also having someone digging through months old articles for my comments is real strange and rubbed me the wrong way.”

    Translation: “I can’t believe he found those examples and proved me wrong!”.

    #167 – “Oh i’m so sorry if me disproving you equals making up excuses”

    The fact you dodge everyone’s accusations here is proof of your many excuses. If you read the comments, you will see various people accusing you of the very same thing and providing their own facts.

    Some of your excuses: “I misread a vapor-article”, “I don’t have the article, I just deleted my history today”, “That’s just two examples, I meant generally”, and “I don’t instigate, I participate”.

    And before you get your panties in a bunch, those excuses are not direct quotes, rather rephrased statements.

    #180 10 months ago
  181. Ireland Michael

    You two could just… ignore each other?

    Sorry, crazy suggestion.

    #181 10 months ago
  182. monkeygourmet

    @186

    I think people have tried to label PCBros in many articles when it was quite obvious what he was trying to say.

    People have selectivly jumped on certain things he has said, completly ignoring his other comment history in a bid to ‘put him in a box’.

    #182 10 months ago
  183. pcbros

    Interesting how Legendary plays the card of the victim as well.

    “i was being name-called a liar, an instigator of fanboys”, “I would have left, if not called a hypocrite and liar.”

    Yet the facts prove otherwise…

    #2 – “In before Francis fanboy nonsense.”

    #54 – “Don’t be too hard on him, he makes comments without researching it first or backtracking later.”

    He initiated all of this crap. He has no problem labeling people and falsely accusing them.

    #183 10 months ago
  184. Legendaryboss

    Oh for the love of god, one more time…
    @PCbros
    “Forgotten? Didn’t you say in #58, “Its only positive if the initial figure is big. If so we wouldn’t need to be told so in percentages.”
    It was forgotten as in Francis forgot, that was a point made in general to your response. Two different points made in different sections.

    “Some of your excuses” “I misread another article (Truth, you cannot prove otherwise)”, “I don’t have the article (Why would I?), I just deleted my history today (actually at a time point on mobile)”, “That’s just two examples, I meant generally”,

    I did say generally right here: “My exact words generally (not here) to others are “you do know person X is a troll?” Really, seriously? So yes there are exceptions.
    http://www.vg247.com/2013/10/17/wii-u-sales-up-200-in-september-3ds-best-selling-us-console-npd/comment-page-2/#comment-551787

    “First you said you don’t say it. I prove you wrong. Then you say you don’t generally say it.” Other way round, minus prove me wrong and typo issue.

    and “I don’t instigate, I participate”. Not a excuse, that was something i stated in response.

    “Please don’t find more examples of my hypocrisy.” Which have been disproven time and time again.

    “Another input on the same topic. Childishly hidden in a post directed to someone else. No self-control and a liar (Thats simply your opinion, which has already been disproven). What i actually said: Ended my input proof/comments on that failed crusade so you would win, no input on the failed crusade was given a acknowledgement on it was given.

    “The fact you dodge everyone’s accusations here is proof of your many excuses. If you read the comments, you will see various people accusing you of the very same thing and providing their own facts.”
    “As for my view if you look back on that rant you can see i admit i’m a hypocrite in real life and generally not on here, i can also accept criticism if valid…” Dodge everyones accusations but this one is left out.

    “Is that bait so I can call you Legendary@ss, Legendaryliar, or Legendaryhypocrite?” You have already called me the latter two (minus legendary) and its still only your opinion.

    “You just proved our point.” Generally not here you haven’t, real life and virtual for me are different, i have distinguished the two you cannot prove it in real life so you cannot prove it here.

    “And before you get your panties in a bunch, those excuses are not direct quotes, rather rephrased statements.” Rephrased sentences? Say no more.

    “But you obviously enjoy this” I don’t enjoy having someone pick through my comment history (Going back months back), labels me etc. etc. So no i’m not enjoying this, again thats out of nowhere.

    Four people does not equal everyone “The fact you dodge everyone’s accusations here is proof of your many excuses.” I’m not dodging anything, i’m acknowledging it head on as you can see. Its not excuses its me disproving whats said.

    “He initiated all of this crap” No @2/43 My presence is missing. He has no problem labeling people and falsely accusing them. Besides i didn’t falsely accuse Francis nor did i you.

    @Michael
    Nothing would please me more.

    @Monkey
    It can’t work because it is not true.

    #184 10 months ago
  185. Ireland Michael

    @187, 189 I’m referring to the two of you.

    But especially you, Legendary.

    Every single time this sort of crap blows up in threads, its you two hurling insults. Add Francis into the mix every so often and you’ve got the perfect trio.

    If you just ignored the shit, it would stop in a heartbeat.

    #185 10 months ago
  186. pcbros

    @189 – “Thats simply your opinion, which has already been disproven”

    How do you disprove an opinion? You sure like flinging around the word “disproven”.

    “I don’t enjoying having someone pick through my comment history, labels me etc. etc. So no i’m not enjoying this.”

    So you don’t enjoy being labeled, but yet you label others. I know there’s a word for that…

    “Nothing would please anymore more.”

    Yet you started it and continued all the way through.

    #186 10 months ago
  187. monkeygourmet

    @190

    It rarely spills over onto other threads though. You r a bit fucked if you come here for Nintendo news though, i’ll give you that.

    When I started posting it was you and TEA going mental in ALL the threads. At least this is somewhat self-contained.

    #187 10 months ago
  188. pcbros

    @192 – I know you want to break the 200 barrier :)

    #188 10 months ago
  189. Ireland Michael

    @192 TEA was the one always going mental on me. Most of the time, I ignored him completely, though that never stopped him going mental anyway. Only a handful of times did it ever get “out of hand”, and I certainly didn’t waste my breath for three whole pages.

    Also, TEA did that to everyone. I was gone for like six months and he was still going.

    This is a frequent, almost daily occurrence here, it’s always the same people, and it’s been going on for months.

    #189 10 months ago
  190. dreamcastnews

    @192 that being said, it’s annoying to have the same petty argument between some of the folk around here. I come here for Nintendo news without the comment fucktardary.

    #190 10 months ago
  191. Legendaryboss

    @PCbros
    “How do you disprove an opinion?” How do i disprove a opinion on me? Very simple, I state its not true thats all i have to do. And no matter how hard others try, i can disprove it seeing as i know myself better than anyone.

    “So you don’t enjoy being labeled, but yet you label others.” But i don’t enjoy labelling others a difference. Francis admitted he was a troll, The Titanfall thing and anything linked happened. Another difference.

    “I know there’s a word for that” Disproven, that word is being used because it is a theme recurrent.

    “Yet you started it and continued all the way through.”
    Like i said

    “The goading may have instigated the argument but it was the now disproven labels that influenced it to this far.” “Okay yes the goading i accept, the gifs already covered.” “i’m no pushover: i fail to see why i should be labeled incorrectly, sit back and take it.” Also this argument ends when we all stop commenting.

    If you do find something thats very clear, i will come forth and admit it seeing i can admit i am a hypocrite in my real life and if i can admit it to strangers, i would have no problems doing the same in virtual life. So i not sure where you think i’m unwilling to admit it?

    #191 10 months ago
  192. Francis O

    In all my years on internet message boards. I have never seen somebody dance to the level Legendaryjackass is dancing. I mean seriously. It was just Wednesday he and Dragon tore the Wii U a new one, calling it dead.

    Now they are just questioning the numbers, and damage controlling, and making excuses. Seriously….

    Legendary you should be on Dancing with the Stars. Honesty, I give this performance a 10/10.

    You have been exposed so many times by multiple people in this thread and you keep on dancing.

    OMG. Wait till Super Mario 3D World comes out and the Black Friday sales get revealed. You’re going to be in full on river dance mode for like 300 comments.

    LOL.

    #192 10 months ago
  193. Legendaryboss

    @Francis
    Never called Wii U dead, Dragon did, The Walking Dead to be exact. I agreed to a point already covered. I have made positive points but your overlooking them.

    “Legendary you should be on Dancing with the Stars. Honesty, I give this performance a 10/10.” Thats something, i guess.

    “You have been exposed” At first but nope then i offered my rebuttal.

    #193 10 months ago
  194. Legendaryboss

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-dvTjK_07c

    #194 10 months ago
  195. Legendaryboss

    Tired. 200 comments, please end here.

    #195 10 months ago
  196. dreamcastnews

    Who got comment 101? I hope they were Wonderful hahahahahahahahha! Oh.

    #196 10 months ago
  197. monkeygourmet

    @193

    :D

    @194

    Thats fair enough about TEA, it was mostly one sided.

    @195

    Sales figures will always do that though. People miss-use them as a barrometer of quality, or people get to tetchy about them if they are not to their liking.

    JM is right (I think he mentioned it first?) That this percentage is intangible without a solid figure. But we all know there IS an increase albeit a small one if you really want to break things down.

    What actually happens though, is people attaching motives to their ‘analysis’ and hiding behind:

    “Hey man, all i’m doing is telling it like it is” attitude. Calling people out, then complaining when they get exactly what they asked for?! Doesn’t make much sense but it permiates Nintendo threads in particular.

    It shows what a polarising company they have become and how strong people are invested in other brands doesn’t it?

    The reason I listed the exclusves was simply to show, regardless of sales numbers (good / bad), people are missing out on new experiences / quality gaming by ignoring the console. Sales figures can never take that away and as i’ve said before, the only time it really matters is if they are so bad, games stop getting made for the system prematurly.

    The Dreamcast is a perfect example, people love it now and it’s a classic console with many amazing games. Poor sales cannot take that away so I never know quite where people are going with such reliance on bean counting.

    The Wii U doesn’t have to last – 10 years like the PS4 / Xbone (Those systems CAN’T fail), im sure it was never intended to have a huge lifespan.

    Non of us have stocks / shares in any of these comapnies…

    The Wii U will see a good few more years, and be host to some all time classic games (It already has a good pedigree), thats all that matters.

    #197 10 months ago
  198. Ireland Michael

    Excuse me while I go bang my head off a wall repeatedly, in the hopes of getting for a concussion to save me from this crap.

    You’re all as bad as each other. Christ.

    #198 10 months ago
  199. monkeygourmet

    @203

    There is no god here…

    #199 10 months ago
  200. Dragon

    @dcn,pcbros,
    Since you have, at different points in this thread, taken the liberty to describe me as the “problem”, I would like to hear your opinions on needless and unprovoked insults hurled by #171 at me. Do you condone that sort behaviour too?

    And one more thing, I would love to have someone, anyone to show me a single comment where I categorically stated Wii U is already dead. Its not yet, however signs aren’t looking good. I would happily state the facts again when/if Wii U makes a comeback.

    However, there is something hilarious going on here. Here we have a particular guy telling others to stop preaching numbers, yet if you perform the positivity/negativity swap related to the company he likes, you would see how numbers are fun
    http://www.vg247.com/2013/10/16/pokemon-x-y-move-over-1-8-million-units-in-japan-topping-media-create-charts/#comment-550457

    @Michael,
    +1, see #172. Completely sums up the thread for me. It seems a difference in opinions and fact stating is enough for some here to start swinging personal insults here.

    #200 10 months ago
  201. dreamcastnews

    @205 if 171 is Francis then you’ll notice I’ve stated he shouldn’t be baiting both you and LB all the time. I already said you’re the problem on many Nintendo threads for just always saying ‘this thing is the walking dead’ – what do you think that’s achieving aside a heated debate that always goes the same way EACH AND EVERY TIME.

    Can’t we all agree that the Wii U is in a dire position at the moment, NOT it’s parent company? You see, Dragon; Nintendo have to keep making systems that are oddball and off the wall because the consumer doesn’t want three competitors doing the same thing all the time, as Monkey said, if you want to proof just look at the GameCube – it seems to me you’ve fallen out of flavour with Nintendo for not having a super-powerful system to compete with Sony and MS, don’t you agree we don’t need TV boxes doing the same thing?

    What’s your honest view on the Wii U? And Nintendo?

    #201 10 months ago
  202. pcbros

    @196 – “How do i disprove a opinion on me? Very simple, I state its not true thats all i have to do.”

    So now you are changing what the word “opinion” means.

    Definition – Opinion: “judgment or belief not founded on certainty or proof”

    The fact is you can’t disprove an opinion because it’s not founded on fact or proof. Do some more research.

    “But i don’t enjoy labelling others a difference. Francis admitted he was a troll”

    You are still labeling people. Don’t try to twist it by saying, “It’s ok to label people IF…”

    “The Titanfall thing and anything linked happened.”

    Of course everything you say happened, but everything every other person has said here about you didn’t happen. How convenient.

    “The goading may have instigated the argument”

    So you admit you started this crap war. Good job.

    #202 10 months ago
  203. Dragon

    @206,
    “if 171 is Francis”
    No its not, its monkey. Are you dodging the issue?

    “you’re the problem on many Nintendo threads for just always saying ‘this thing is the walking dead’ – what do you think that’s achieving aside a heated debate that always goes the same way EACH AND EVERY TIME. ”
    I am perfectly entitled to represent my opinions about a company without insulting anyone. Do you want to steal my right?

    Ah well, I have said everything I wanted.

    #203 10 months ago
  204. Ireland Michael

    @205 Considering you’re coaxing numerous people with talkbacks and insults, you’re just as guilty.

    As soon as you guys ignore each other, it dies. Surely you realise after 200 comments that you’re wasting your breath?

    #204 10 months ago
  205. Dragon

    @209,
    “As soon as you guys ignore each other, it dies.”
    You realise I am not talking to anyone of them don’t you?

    “Surely you realise after 200 comments that you’re wasting your breath?”
    Have you read my comments? Or did you just came here to play neutrality game? I have already done my bit.

    “Considering you’re coaxing numerous people with talkbacks and insults, you’re just as guilty.”
    Now,now. Proof? Playing neutrality needs proof. Show me where I insulted anyone. Or take back what you said.
    Or do nothing, your wish.

    #205 10 months ago
  206. Legendaryboss

    @207
    No i am not saying that, YOU ARE.

    You got: “So now you are changing what the word “opinion” means.” From “How do i disprove a opinion on me? Very simple, I state its not true thats all i have to do.” Disproving not changing: i didn’t say the definition of a opinion can be changed. I don’t need to research opinion (Research seems to be a point you are upset about), because i don’t need to research what i already know. “it’s not founded on fact or proof” Interesting, so the opinions stated previously are not found on fact or proof.

    “sometimes you can label people, IF…” Again you are saying it, you are thinking i’m twisting. Its based on what your saying NOT ME.

    “Of course everything you say happened, everything every other person has said here about you didn’t happen.” Your saying it again.
    Its been refuted by me, they are saying it happened so it happens in their mindset. It they think it happens, fine but it still remains their opinion.

    “So you admit you started this crap war. Good job.” So i admit that i may have started this war to equal i admit i started this war? Nope may is expressing possibility, so its possible but i haven’t admitted it.

    #206 10 months ago
  207. dreamcastnews

    @208 I wasn’t dodging the issue, I couldn’t be arsed to go back through all this shit, I’ve proof read most of the comments here. Monkey may be out of line, as we all can be at times, but in my mind; you’re the leader of the tormentors.

    I’m not saying you’re not entitled to your opinion but why do you insist on throwing it around and forcing it down our throats? It’s perfectly clear you see the Wii U and PSVita as ‘walking dead’ and then you start whinging when somebody gets a little close to home with their comments, alternatively, you could just not keep banging the same old drum and spare the 200-odd comment string. But you won’t.

    Perhaps, if we’re talking about dodging questions mister, why don’t you answer mine, since I’ve been clear about what you asked.

    #207 10 months ago
  208. monkeygourmet

    @210

    How about the bit where you mocked Poly’s dead pet?

    I suppose you were driven to that after all the hardship you have suffered.

    #208 10 months ago
  209. Bomba Luigi

    Woa, the Internet is going silly again.

    Selling more is always good. Maybe its still not much, but its still more. And so some more People having Fun playing Windwaker. Theres nothing wrong with that.

    #209 10 months ago
  210. dreamcastnews

    @214 +1

    #210 10 months ago
  211. Dragon

    “I’m not saying you’re not entitled to your opinion but why do you insist on throwing it around and forcing it down our throats?”
    Again, show me where I forced it down your throat/s. Surely you can ignore my comments, cant you? They are never aimed at you. Why do you care?

    “you’re the leader of the tormentors.”
    So, stating factual data about a company equals tormenting. Okay, got it.

    “Perhaps, if we’re talking about dodging questions mister”
    What question? If you are asked about wiiu and ninty, scroll through the previous comments to see them. I have stated them multiple times in this very thread.

    Again, live and let live. We all can ignore each other as Michael said, cant we?

    #211 10 months ago
  212. monkeygourmet

    Here’s #171 for people who can’t be arsed to trawl back:

    It’s aimed at Dragon and is a critique on how I view his conduct on this site:

    “3DS is doing well, pity the Wii U is dead now on lfe support, prob won’t last till christmas at this rate.”

    Something like that? Am I doing it right?

    A compliment is used to ‘hide’ the ‘meat’ of what he wanted to say. First rule in trolling really, pretty standard.

    Passive aggresive and provoking.

    I happily stand by that. Also, I kept it nice and clean, no swearing in case children were in the room.

    #212 10 months ago
  213. pcbros

    @Dragon, for the record, I’m not saying anyone here is the problem. Everyone has an opinion and is entitled to that opinion. Even the people labeled fanboys or trolls can have their opinion.

    In your case, you have a different view on this article that I do and that’s fair game.

    #213 10 months ago
  214. Dragon

    @pcbros,
    “In your case, you have a different view on this article that I do and that’s fair game.”
    +100. Thats about it. The summary that everyone should take from this thread.
    You deserve a cookie :D

    And I am out. I am sure someone will try to goad me, but whatever.
    Dat sad behaviour….

    #214 10 months ago
  215. monkeygourmet

    Whats always hilarious is that Dragon misses my sarcasm everytime and trys to use a comment against me…

    The ‘Numbers are fun’ comment was me delibratly showing what bullshit spouting figures can be. And, once again in the article he linked to, it shows you exactly what he is like, here’s his comment:

    http://www.vg247.com/2013/10/16/pokemon-x-y-move-over-1-8-million-units-in-japan-topping-media-create-charts/#comment-550457

    #3 “Great opening for Pokemon, although a little less than expected, since pre-orders itself were 1.5 million+. Looks like most pre-ordered it.

    Vita sales are very good too. Looks like all those rumors of sales going down in anticipation of new model were true after all. 60k also matches the sales that were after the price cut, so its very good indeed.
    Oh, and this ad worked-
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=3Mjxhhms4XU

    And obviously, the GTA beast. Its one of the best, if not the best FW in Japan for a western game. Awesome.

    Great sales for DanganRonpa 1&2 too.

    And Wii U…. the less said the better. You know its dire when 360 is giving it some competition. Sad indeed.
    The walking dead.. or maybe already dead. Wii was discontinued, and Wii U is just barely selling above that. Will Wii U be discontinued too?”

    The compliment at the start to hide the ‘meat’ of what he was intending (Wii U bashing).

    Oh the irony, thanks for posting that link Dragon, nicely proved my point.

    Oh, and Lboss is also doing his ‘thing’ in that one…

    ‘Shitstorm incoming’

    #215 10 months ago
  216. monkeygourmet

    @Dragon

    Oh your going again?

    Don’t you usually rag on Francis and goad him by saying he’s running away?

    See you in 5 minutes when you come back, or are you really ‘going’ this time?

    #216 10 months ago
  217. dreamcastnews

    ‘And I am out.’

    Thank god for that! Can we all just agree to disagree now?

    #217 10 months ago
  218. pcbros

    @211 – “How do i disprove a opinion on me? Very simple, I state its not true thats all i have to do.”

    To disprove something, you have to prove it’s false. You can’t prove an opinion is false. If I think Nintendo makes the funnest games, how do prove my opinion false?

    “Again you are saying it, you are thinking i’m twisting. Its based on what your saying NOT ME.”

    Did you not just say it’s ok to label Francis because he supposedly admitted he was a troll? Do you not even remember what you said a few minutes ago?

    “So i admit that i may have started this war to equal i admit i started this war? Nope may is expressing possibility, so its possible but i haven’t admitted it.”

    I guess you may have written these things…

    #2 – “In before Francis fanboy nonsense.”

    #54 – “Don’t be too hard on him, he makes comments without researching it first or backtracking later.”

    It’s pretty clear you won’t admit to anything.

    #218 10 months ago
  219. pcbros

    @214, +1 :D

    #219 10 months ago
  220. Legendaryboss

    @220
    So 25 comments there and also goading Francis in a similar slightly worse way doesn’t start a shitstorm but for some reason a similar themed comment turns into to a reason for it happening here?

    #220 10 months ago
  221. monkeygourmet

    @225

    If you throw enough ‘shit’(storm), some of it’s going to stick…

    #221 10 months ago
  222. pcbros

    @226 – Don’t feed the troll. Wait! I mean don’t feed him but if he makes a new point you can resume feeding. No wait! I mean, be careful he is a troll but you can feed him all you want.

    With that I’m out. May peace return to the World of Nintendo.

    Btw, me thinks you getting greedy and going for 300 ;)

    #222 10 months ago
  223. dreamcastnews

    What’s the thread record? I bet it’s a Nintendo thread!

    #223 10 months ago
  224. Legendaryboss

    “You can’t prove an opinion is false.” “how do (you) prove my opinion false? By disagreeing with it, after all a opinion is based on lack of proof/facts.

    “Did you not just say it’s ok to label Francis because he supposedly admitted he was a troll? Do you not even remember what you said a few minutes ago?”
    I did not say it was okay, in fact i have not even offered my opinion on what i think about labelling. But no, i am now saying that he called himself a troll, so i assume he had no problem being called it.

    The exact same comment was made in this article across two comments and there is no shitstorm so i was wrong on that one, but was changed to say incoming not before.
    http://www.vg247.com/2013/10/16/pokemon-x-y-move-over-1-8-million-units-in-japan-topping-media-create-charts/#comment-550457
    So why does that change for this article? Depending on your answer thats why i said may.

    “So i admit that i may have started this war to equal i admit i started this war? Nope may is expressing possibility, so its possible but i haven’t admitted it.” Doesn’t even make sense with the below.

    “I guess you may have written these things” I did write that, i admit to that now if not obvious. I not sure where may have comes into. But if nothing happened beyond 25 comments in the thread above, why should i change may, its possible but didn’t happen it that thread.

    #224 10 months ago
  225. Legendaryboss

    “Don’t feed the troll.” Forgetting generally originally at 99: Disproven.

    “Wait! I mean don’t feed him but if he makes a new point you can resume feeding.” Only in this article, with Francis you are the only one globalising it to trolls.

    “No wait! I mean, be careful he is a troll but you can feed him all you want.” Generally 99, forgetting like the above.

    There are some exceptions, but never mind.

    Amazing how you are taking me warning others about trolls to be a bad thing.

    #225 10 months ago
  226. Legendaryboss

    @226
    So its a possibility? Okay.

    #226 10 months ago
  227. Ireland Michael

    And the drums keeping beating ever onward.

    #227 10 months ago
  228. pcbros

    Let me leave with these words to remember…

    @229 – “i am now saying that he called himself a troll, so i assume he had no problem being called it.”

    You admitted to being a hypocrite in real life and said you usually are not one on here, which means at times you are a hypocrite on here.

    So we will assume you have no problem being called a hypocrite.

    #228 10 months ago
  229. Hcw87

    Goodness, this crap is still going. This post can reach 500 for all i care, it doesn’t change the fact that Legendary loves instigating fanboys. Deny all you want, but we all know it to be true.

    In this thread alone, 60% of the posts seem to come from Legendaryboss trying to defend himself (futile attempts).

    Just admit that you like egging Francis on, and next time don’t even mention the words ”shitstorm” and ”francis” in the same sentence, and we can all have peace.

    #229 10 months ago
  230. Legendaryboss

    “You admitted to being a hypocrite in real life and said you usually are not one on here.”

    I said i made a separation between the two, i do not act the same way on here in real life and vice-versa.

    “So we will assume you have no problem being call a hypocrite.”

    In real life, but thats hardly been echoed. I have no problem with it on here (if valid), I can deal with it. Just like what Francis calls me. Reason being because it doesn’t impact me.

    “but that means at times you are a hypocrite on here.” Not yet, i haven’t seen it. So no it doesn’t mean anything just yet. And just because others perceive it that way, still doesn’t mean anything.

    @Hcw87
    “Just admit that you like egging Francis on” In your imagination, maybe but no. I will admit i disagree with him that prompts those arguments, thats all and unless stated otherwise thats just in your head. “that Legendary loves instigating fanboys.” Pity that will never be true, like the “EVERY NINTENDO THREAD.”

    “but we all know it to be true.” 5 people, at best have said this and you link that to all members, you five mainly PCbros and Francis. Thats the equal to me saying 10 people have called me fat so everyone thinks i’m fat not true.

    “60% of the posts seem to come from Legendaryboss trying to defend himself (futile attempts).” It shows that i’m not a pushover, if the attempts were futile this argument would be long over.

    “and next time don’t even mention the words ”shitstorm” and ”francis” in the same sentence, and we can all have peace.” Is there any particular reason why i should take orders/advice on what i should or shouldn’t say? No? Didn’t think so.

    #230 10 months ago
  231. Francis O

    Dragon you’re entitled to your opinion, but the problem is you’re an idiot.

    You called Sony the “King of Home Consoles.” WTF? The Wii outsold the PS3. You bash Nintendo in the Media Create when the PS3 overall has sold pretty shitty in Japan. Its been 7 years since launch and the system has barely hit 10 million units. The 3DS has already passed it up.

    You also damage controlled Pikmin 3′s sales in Japan. And tried to write it off, mocked it. Instead of saying something like, cool Pikmin is helping a bit.

    The problem is you’re not a true gamer. Nintendo doesn’t interest you, you’re not going to play their games. So bashing it makes you feel better about your favorite company, Sony. Why else would you be in EVERY SINGLE NINTENDO thread….and never saying you are going to play any of the games.

    And holy shit, you damage controlled the hell out of Sony’s shitty financial reports.
    http://www.vg247.com/2013/08/01/sony-q1-financials-1-2bn-in-game-sales-vita-ignored-in-report/

    dude had like 8 out of the first 13 comments.

    Dancing

    #231 10 months ago
  232. Francis O

    Legendary and Dragon are on full Defense Dance mode…. LOL!

    Its like Dance Dance Revolution..wait, no Just Dance 2014 – Gangnam Style

    Dragon and Legendary doing gangnam style in between typing messages.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIQToVqDMb8

    All you need to do is add the ballerina Clupula, and that forms the ultimate broke back dancing team for the drones.

    #232 10 months ago
  233. viralshag

    Another thread populated with some of the most ridiculous and stupid comments/arguments on this site. Good job all.

    #233 10 months ago
  234. polygem

    So i am going on a weekend trip and you kids are burning the house down. Wait til mom and me are back. I’ll show you how buttcheeks can burn too.

    #234 10 months ago
  235. stretch215

    Wow….do you guys seriously have nothing better to do on the weekend? All that wasted energy.

    #235 10 months ago
  236. CyberMarco

    Wow, I remember posting a reply at Poly and Monkey regarding why I’m not buying a Wii U etc. and came back to see their replies and well… shit!

    This escalated quickly! :P

    #236 10 months ago
  237. Playmaker

    Everyone and I mean everyone knows legendary and dragon are just on their knees in front of Sony begging to do anything Kaz wants anytime any position.

    Enjoy driveclub and watchdogs losers. Oh wait … Nm. I did read the link to the Sony financial report and bwahaha you called it Francis. Kaz must’ve just done dragon a favor bc he was there defending like crazy. Go tell that to Sonys investors bwahaha. Maybe they can sell more headquarter buildings to show a profit lol.

    Lets all stand in unison for our bros in brasil who ate getting shafted by Kaz!!!

    #237 10 months ago
  238. Francis O

    You saw that Playmaker, its crazy, Dragon planned everything out the night before. LOL, he was fucking waiting…he knew Sony’s reports weren’t going to be good. You know cause they are selling buildings and shit.

    @CyberMarco

    nobody gives a shit you aren’t going to buy a Wii U. Miss out on some of the best games this generation like Monolith Soft’s X, Bayonetta 2, and Super Smash bros for Wii U.

    #238 10 months ago
  239. CyberMarco

    @243 Are you retarded or what? Who the hell asked your opinion, I was just having a conversation with Poly and Monkey, geez!

    Also, learn to express your opinion on a more polite way. lol want to be called an editor, my ass! -.-

    #239 10 months ago
  240. Juice_Man101

    @244

    Don’t let the fanboys get to you CyberMarco. If you ignore them then they’ll disappear.

    #240 10 months ago
  241. zinc

    Nintendo threads constantly getting 100/200+ comments?

    Not bad for a dead duck company the hardcore have abandoned eh?

    #241 10 months ago
  242. Hcw87

    @246
    95% of the comments in here are not related to Nintendo.

    #242 10 months ago
  243. Panthro

    As is the case with nearly every thread on this site…

    It always erupts into arguments over which gaming platform is best.

    #243 10 months ago

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