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Thief reboot will overcome “fan resistance” at launch, a confident Eidos states

Friday, 11 October 2013 11:24 GMT By Dave Cook

Thief producer Joe Khoury has predicted that “fan resistance” will be overcome once Eidos Montreal launches the game launches in February. It comes as games still hold reservations about the reboot living up to its predecessors. That, and some folk still don’t like new Garrett.

Our very own contributor Stace Harman played the game recently and he too had reservations. Find out why here.

Speaking with OXM, Khoury explained, “I think hopefully, our greatest sense of satisfaction will be when the game’s released and that’s where we’ll overcome fan resistance. I think there are a lot of optimistically curious people just as there are some fans who don’t know the full extent of what we’re doing, so for sure they’re basing their impressions on the little information that they have, and that’s concerning for them.

“We haven’t shown everything we have in our pockets yet. And I think when the game hits the street is when there concerns will be met. We’re looking forward to that day. Right now the team’s working so hard to bring the game to where it is, taking into consideration everything that everybody’s saying.”

On the negative reaction seen so far, Khoury continued, “When I read a lot of the comments I can see where they’re coming from, and I can guarantee that part of that is just ‘wait and see, judge for yourself.’ Hopefully it’ll be good. We’re fairly confident, but then art is very delicate to judge – it’s an opinion.

“There’s a lot of people that remember things differently for the first Thief, and what they like about the first Thief games. And hopefully 15 years from now people will be talking about what they remember about this Thief, in comparison to the first Thief! We’re reading what they’re saying with a lot of care. And what we reveal in the next few months will hopefully cater to some of the questions that they have.”

You can watch some Thief gameplay in this new trailer and judge for yourself.

What do you think?

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17 Comments

  1. TheWulf

    It’s interesting to see them harping on the same things that some of the more die-hard fans of this reboot have said. That there isn’t much information, despite them having done a large lore dump not so long ago.

    This is just politics. I’m not impressed, honestly.

    Well, I suppose we’ll see who’s right come release. In the interim, TheDarkMod has hit its 2.0 release and now exists in its standalone state, and is likely better than any official Thief game will probably be, now.

    Check it out, if you want.

    #1 1 year ago
  2. YoungZer0

    @1: Looks outdated.

    #2 1 year ago
  3. Hcw87

    The problem with expectations these days is that people expect a sequel for a game released in the 90′s/early 2000 to play and look EXACTLY the same as it did back then. This is where people have seriously flawed expectations, since gaming have moved on from the simple gameplay mechanics from the past.

    Change the look of a character for example, and you will have major uproar. Change the voice of someone, same thing happens.

    Fact is, no sequel for a beloved game released 10 years ago will NEVER ever surpass it, simply because nostalgia.

    #3 1 year ago
  4. DrDamn

    @1
    “It’s interesting to see them harping on the same things…”

    Oh the irony.

    @3
    +1

    #4 1 year ago
  5. absolutezero

    “since gaming have moved on from the simple gameplay mechanics from the past.”

    In most cases its the exact opposite though. They simplify everything to such a degree as to make any connection to the original series superfluous.

    In defense of The Dark Mod it also has a map editor, which is being used to create just as crazily complex maps as the original Thief.

    I’m guessing alot of people never played the original Thief, which is perfectly fine its a pretty niche title at the best of times.

    #5 1 year ago
  6. Hcw87

    @5
    Sure. But in some cases the simplifications is actually a plus (regenerating health for example). Not all games work well without it. Running around in Call of Duty/Battlefield picking up healthpacks would completely destroy the flow of battle.

    #6 1 year ago
  7. absolutezero

    This is all “Opinions” but Regenerating Health has never lead to a game being better than if it used health packs instead.

    Same for the draining of colour for damage. Same for the bloody screen.

    Regen health in particular has a serious effect on the way that encounters are presented and fights play out. In a game where you can just run off and recover with no penalty how do you make the player feel threatened by anything? Why you ramp up the amount of spam damage and hitscan weapons. Grey screen and you dive into cover, which kills the pacing as you crouch behind a box waiting for colour to return.

    Battlefield does have med-packs, in the distant past of every Battlefield game before 3 there were specific Medic classes.

    #7 1 year ago
  8. Luciferous

    @7 Exactly this

    Look at the encounters in The Last of Us.

    Combat in that game was incredibly deliberate because not only did not have health regen you also didn’t have a lot of resources or ammo. Every mistake that cost you some health hurt, every bullet fired was a gamble.

    If it used regenerating health the game would have been terrible.

    Games like CoD and Battlefield would be completely different if they followed the same methods… you would have pitched fire fights that ebbed and flowed as people got injured and had to be pulled back to be healed by medics before heading back in… I’d probably play those games more if they were like that.

    #8 1 year ago
  9. absolutezero

    “With the next-gen, with the smartphone, with the tablet, with the indie developer, it’s really, really cool because now we have a lot of different types of players. There is a type of people that like to have that kind of indicator, because… they don’t want to fight with all these mechanics. They enjoy the story, they want to progress, they want to feel that they are good, but at the same time they like to, you know, ‘let me help you a little bit’.”

    I’m done. I’m Out.

    I’m so fucking done.

    #9 1 year ago
  10. Ireland Michael

    @9 Nice knowing you.

    Change is fine. New audience aren’t fine. Less cumbersome mechanics and streamlined interfaces are fine. Mobile gaming is fine.

    Half the time, if you want more of a challenge, all you have to do is increase the difficulty or change the options.

    #10 1 year ago
  11. absolutezero

    Tough all they changed in the new Thief difficulty selections is lowered HP.

    The mechanics/interface/UI were not cumbersome in the first place, I never had to fight to play Deus Ex or Thief. They are brilliant games, they still are brilliant games. Its not about change its about not understand what made these titles popular and beloved in the first place.

    Why bother “bring the series to a whole new audience” when you have removed everything that made the series special in the first fucking place?

    “We are working very hard to respect these different types of player. Honestly, it’s like, let’s say you are at home, you like to write, and you have a novel in your drawer that you would like to share. I’m pretty sure you don’t write for one guy; you want to make sure a lot of people would see the story. It’s the same thing to us.”

    “We’ve seen players who don’t even bother to read anything they find. We have to make sure the game is fun for them, too.”

    Why? Why should the game be fun for these people? I know it comes down to sales figures and getting a return but fuck. FUCK.

    #11 1 year ago
  12. Mineral4r7s

    @11
    I feel ya.

    #12 1 year ago
  13. Os Money

    “Running around in Call of Duty/Battlefield picking up healthpacks would completely destroy the flow of battle.”

    “Games like CoD and Battlefield would be completely different if they followed the same methods… you would have pitched fire fights that ebbed and flowed as people got injured and had to be pulled back to be healed by medics before heading back in… I’d probably play those games more if they were like that.”

    @6&8

    It’s called hardcore mode, it’s much more enjoyable if you haven’t yet tried it ;)

    #13 1 year ago
  14. mreko3230

    I just don’t think you can win if you’re going to be rebooting an old IP. People either complain that you’re just “re-skinning” the previous games without adding anything new and you’re too afraid to experiment or they think you are ruining memories of the their childhood nostalgia. You really can’t win.

    But hey, what do I know? I actually liked ‘Thief: Deadly Shadows’ and that’s the one everyone hated.

    #14 1 year ago
  15. Pitts

    @14- Deus Ex:HR and X-Com:EU spring to mind. Both developers were pretty clever in how they rebooted things while keeping the fans happy.

    #15 1 year ago
  16. fearmonkey

    I have said it before but I am waiting till I see reviews and play the game for myself. I admit I wasnt happy about the new Emo Garrett look and the voice actor is different. I liked the old Garrett quite a bit, and will miss that.

    However the guy they chose is a good voice actor and I’ll take a wait and see. I loved The original games but if it takes some changes to bring back the series, I will deal with it if the game is good. To me any new thief is good, just like any new Deux Ex is good. I loved Deus EX:HR and so I hope they do the same thing here, wow me when I finally get to play it.

    If they release an average game though…God help them…

    #16 1 year ago
  17. dexfx69

    I liked the previous Garrett, who may have been a theif, but was trying to be ethical in his decisions. In this new game, it seems he’s a sociopath.

    #17 1 year ago

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  • This is what co-op looks like in Dying Light

    Dying Light’s cop-op mode has been given a short demo by developer Techland. Dying Light supports drop-in/ drop-out co-op for up to four players. The entire campaign is playable in co-op, and there are special co-op challenges. Watch as four members of developer Techland take on the game’s zombie apocalypse. Dying Light is out January […]

  • Get Saints Row 2, Saints Row: The Third and all DLC for $5

    Bundle Stars’ latest bundle packs Saints Row 2 and the complete Saints Row: The Third for $5. The Saints Row bundle is priced $5. It is live now and for another 14 days. It comes with Saints Row 2, Saints Row: The Third – The Full Package, which is basically the game plus all the […]

  • Destiny: Xur location and inventory for January 23, 24

    Xur: Agent of the Nine has made the trek to Destiny’s Tower for another week of business. Destiny’s Exotics vendor, Xur: Agent of the Nine has arrived at the Tower as per the weekly schedule. Xur will sell you Exotic weapons and armour pieces if you have the Strange Coins to afford it. He also […]

  • Bloodborne is getting two special edition PS4s in Japan

    Sony will launch two limited-edition, Bloodborne-themed PlayStation 4 bundles in Japan. Two bundles are available, one in black and another in white, complete with a controller and a headset. The hard disk cover is engraved with the title and the cover shot. Both bundles come with the collector’s edition release of the game, which was […]

  • Best Destiny videos of the week – Xur vs Cryptarch rap battle

    Destiny has once more produced a slew of entertaining, educational and occasionally baffling videos. Destiny players have repeatedly sparked crazes by exploiting the game’s little foibles – Sparrow surfing is one example. This latest one is kind of mysterious; I don’t know how it’s done, or why you would want to, but Hidden Reach has […]

  • The Sims 4 free for 48 hours with Origin Game Time

    The Sims 4 is the latest game to be offered free through Origin’s Game Time promotion. The Sims 4 is now free to download from Origin, granting you a 48 hour window to try it out and see if you want to pay for the full game. The free time starts counting as soon as […]

  • Check out Destiny’s new PvP mode, Doubles

    Destiny Crucible players can enjoy a new kind of PvP action with Doubles. Destiny may not be as PvP focused as some Halo fans were hoping, but Bungie is slowly ramping up Crucible support, starting with better Iron Banner events. Some time ago the developer promised to introduce experimental game modes, and the latest Bungie […]

  • Halo: New Blood novel launching digitally in March

    A new Halo novel will explore the backstory of Gunnery Sergeant Edward Buck. Halo: New Blood is a digital-first short novel launching on March 2. The 60,000 word novel was penned by Matt Forbeck, an award-winning author of many licensed fantasy and sci-fi publications. It’s an all-new story, but fans of Halo 3: ODST will […]

  • Destiny players purchased 1.1 million Ice Breakers last week

    Destiny players know what’s hot, and Exotic sniper rifle Ice Breaker is definitely warm. Destiny vendor Xur offered Ice Breaker for sale last weekend, much to the delight of everyone yet to find this terrific bit of gear. According to the latest Bungle Weekly Update, Xur sold 1,143,320 Ice Breakers. He left the tower with […]

  • Dragon Age: Inquisition nets GLAAD special recognition award

    Dragon Age: Inquisition has been honoured for its diverse representation by LGBT advocacy body GLAAD. Dragon Age: Inquisition will receive a special recognition award for “the many complex and unique LGBT characters prominently integrated throughout the game”. GLAAD doesn’t normally honour video games (maybe one day, if we ever have enough that deserve it), but […]

  • The Order: 1886 AR game is full of puzzles

    The Order: 1886 has spawned a new promotional website with lots of info to ferret out. Called The Order Exposed, the new site pertains to be the blog of a missing researcher, who had been hoping to uncover the secrets of the alternate history. This on its own is quite interesting but it’s also full […]

  • Grow Home is the next game to follow Child of Light, Valiant Hearts

    Ubisoft has announced another small passion project in the wake of the success of recent releases. Child of Light, Valiant Hearts: The Great War and Far Cry 3: Blood Dragon are all the products of a new initiative at Ubisoft where the publisher lets key developers rest after big triple-A projects by working on something […]

  • What mysterious reveal is Xbox teasing for May 4?

    Xbox is teasing something we’ll be waiting quite a while to learn more about. Xbox community manager Raj Patel tweeted the following earlier today: Hmm… pic.twitter.com/4wBGu6xsDc — Raj Patel (@Rajio) January 22, 2015 NeoGAF users spotted the morse code in the background of the image, which translates as follows: “Presented by Xbox, 10am PDT, 1pm […]

  • 2011 PSN hack class action settlement claim forms available

    PlayStation Network members affected by the 2011 hack and downtime can now claim part of a $15 million settlement. The PSN was down for months on end in 2011 following a major hack, which resulted in user details being compromised. Sony apologised and provided free games as compensation, but unhappy gamers banded together in a […]

  • Final Fantasy 15 has a true open world

    Final Fantasy 15 doesn’t just have “open world gameplay”, it has a true open world – one continuous stretch of environment. “The world is connected by continuous land,” director Hajime Tabata told Gamespot. “If those areas were disconnected, it would feel distant from reality. You’ll find that you’ll be able to walk or drive or […]

  • Suikoden, Suikoden 2 EU PSN release date locked down

    Suikoden and its first sequel will be available via the European PlayStation Network soon. Suikoden publisher Konami has confirmed a February 4 release date for the two RPG classics. CONFIRMED! #Suikoden I & II EU #PSN release date is FEB 4TH! http://t.co/ObOIvZDJAK pic.twitter.com/aM760R2Gez — Konami UK (@KonamiUK) January 22, 2015 It’s been a long wait […]

  • Dying Light physical release set for February 20, says Gamestop Italy

    Dying Light’s physical release has been delayed, but at least one European retailer thinks it knows what’s going on. Dying Light’s physical release date is February 20, according to Gamestop Italy. According to Tmag (Italian, via Google Translate), there’s been no response from local representatives of publisher Warner Bros. Although the digital release will take […]

  • Free online multiplayer update now available for Trials Fusion

    Online multiplayer is now available as a free update to Trials Fusion. The online component includes three new four to eight player multiplayer modes on PC, PS4 and Xbox One and up to four players on Xbox 360. These are the three new gameplay modes included with the update can be found through a previous […]

  • This video for indie survival horror Monstrum features all in-game footage

    Monstrum launches on Steam Early Access January 29 and today, you can have a look at a video for it featuring all in-game footage. Developed by Team Junkfish the survival horror game set on a derelict cargo ship which combines roguelike elements, such as procedurally generated levels and permadeath thanks to AI driven predators. Monstrum […]

  • Here’s quick look at Dead Rising: Watchtower starring Rob Riggle

    A short look at the film adaptation of Dead Rising has surfaced. Transformers director Lorenzo di Bonaventura headed the project and it was directed by Zach Lipovsky. It stars comedy actor Rob Riggle as Frank West, along with Academy Awards nominated actress Virginia Madsen (Candyman, Sideways), Dennis Haysbert (24), Meghan Ory (Once Upon a Time), and […]

  • A Kickstarter for Underworld Ascendant will launch next month

    OtherSide Entertainment, an independent games studio fronted by Paul Neurath, has announced it’s developing Underworld Ascendant. Neurath is the founder and CEO of the new studio ad his resume includes franchises such as Thief, System Shock and 1992′s Underworld Underworld. The studio hopes Underworld Ascendant will “innovate and revitalize” the fantasy genre. More details will […]

  • APB Reloaded heading to PS4 and Xbox One during Q2 2015

    APB Reloaded will indeed be heading to PlayStation 4 and Xbox One during late Q2 this year, which puts its release sometime around the end of June. Reloaded Productions announced in September 2014 it was working on bringing the free-to-play PC title to consoles during the Digital Media Wire event in New York City. The […]

  • Game of Thrones: Episode 2 -The Lost Lords arrives in February – video

    Release dates for Game of Thrones: A Telltale Games Series have been announced. A new video offering a “first look” has also appeared. Below is the story synopsis, which you may want to skip if you haven’t played Episode One. House Forrester is in disarray. Their liege lord and his heir are dead, and Ironrath […]

  • The open beta for Nosgoth has gone live

    Consider this a friendly reminder: the Nosgoth open beta has started. Announced last week, the open beta can be accessed through the official website. Once you link your Steam account, just log into the service and start downloading the client. Everyone that plays the tester will receive double XP through January 28. More information is […]

  • First gameplay footage of Homeworld Remastered Collection being shown this weekend

    Homeworld Remastered Collection news and the first gameplay footage of Gearbox Software’s remake will be revealed at PAX South this weekend. The news and video will be shown during the Inside Gearbox Software panel at 10.30am CST on Sunday. It will also be streamed on Twitch. Gearbox is hoping to have Homeworld Remastered released by […]

  • Latest Final Fantasy Type-0 HD video delves more into combat

    Square Enix has released its latest Orience News video for Final Fantasy Type-0 HD, and it provides insight into character combat styles and techniques. In the video you will see the elite combat force of Class Zero going deeper into battle to improve their skills. Combat is party-based and each of the three characters in […]

  • Something really cool happens when you finish Resident Evil HD *spoiler*

    Those who finish Resident Evil HD will be met with a really nice surprise at the end. If you wish to find out what it is on your own, DO NOT head below the break. You have been warned. According to images posted by Reddit user omeganemesis28, a thank you message from Resident Evil creator […]

  • Metal Gear Solid 5: The Phantom Pain release date “should be” announced soon

    A release date for Metal Gear Solid 5: The Phantom Pain “should be able” to be announced soon, according to the latest Kojima Station webcast. New information on the game will also be announced at the Taipei Game Show on January 31, per Game Spark (thanks, Gemtasu). “I know you’ve all been eagerly await for […]

  • Punch-Out!!, more Throwback offerings arrive on Nintendo US eShop

    Nintendo has updated the North American end of the eShop with Punch-Out!!, Citizens of Earth and Part Two of the Throwback Sale. Here’s the entire update: Nintendo eShop releases Punch-Out!! (originally for Wii) – also 50% off until January 29 Citizens of Earth – introductory price of $11.99 until January 27 Breezeblox (Wii) Midnight (Wii […]

  • The Witcher Battle Arena has arrived on the App Store and Google Play

    The Witcher Battle Arena, CD Projekt RED and Fuero Games’ mobile MOBA, has been released. In Battle Arena, two three-hero teams fight it out as they try to capture and hold conquest points. The game features “no pay-to-win elements”, instead it contains a “player-friendly monetization system.” Every item and functionality can be unlocked entirely through […]

  • Second wave of Star Wars titles arrive on GOG, third wave next week

    The second wave of Star Wars titles will arrive on GOG.com today with more coming January 27. Today you can pick up the following: Star Wars: Rogue Squadron 3D (digital distribution premiere) Star Wars Rebellion (digital distribution premiere) Star Wars Empire at War: Gold Pack On January 27, the final three games of this wave […]

  • If Microsoft is serious about PC games, Xbox One should be the real Steam Machine

    Forget the magic space goggles. Maybe Valve doesn’t have the wherewithal to realise PC gaming’s TV dream, but Microsoft holds all the keys. If Microsoft really wants to get into PC gaming full-time, it needs to get around the table with Mr Newell and its platinum chequebook. “It’s time for us to talk about gaming […]

  • Hyperdimension Neptunia Re;Birth 1 releases on Steam next week

    Hyperdimension Neptunia Re;Birth 1 will be released on Steam for PC next week. The PC version of the was announced earlier this month and contains upgraded graphics, runs in 1080p, and has both Japanese and English audio. It will release on January 28 for $14.99. Fairy Fencer F and Hyperdimension Neptunia Re;Birth 2 also coming […]

  • Take a look at the controls and special abilities in The Order: 1886

    The Order: 1886 has a new trailer available that highlights the game’s controls and reveals the two special abilities the main protagonist has at his disposal. The game uses a similar control scheme to other shooters, but just in case you wanted to see more gameplay, we’ve got just the thing. The most interesting parts […]

  • These elderly people are better at GTA 5 than you’d expect

    Do old people get video games? Namely something known for its violence like GTA? Well, you’re about to find out. The latest REACT production sits a few elderly men and women in a room and lets them play GTA 5. The results are not what you’d expect, they start off getting a feel for the […]

  • More major Microsoft titles will be coming to PC

    Microsoft will bring more of its franchises to PC. Following on from yesterday’s big Windows stream, Microsoft has released a full recap on Xbox Wire. In the blog post, the firm hid a small bit of news revealing that Fable Legends will not be the only title to come to PC. “Today we announced that […]