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“Oddworld wasn’t built on selling out”, Lanning explains why New ‘N Tasty won’t hit Xbox One & 360

Friday, 14 June 2013 08:32 GMT By Dave Cook

Oddworld co-creator Lorne Lanning has explained why his ‘New ‘N Tasty’ remake of Abe’s Oddysee will not hit Xbox 360 or Xbox One in a new interview. In short; Microsoft still isn’t letting developers self-publish on its platforms, so he’s not buckling.

In an interview with Eurogamer, Lanning suggested that Microsoft only has eyes for bit, multi-million generating hits and sees indies and small teams as a weak prospect. He added that he has been trying to speak with Microsoft about releasing New ‘N Tasty on Xbox formats without success.

“For Xbox One they’ve granted us a license for New ‘n’ Tasty! but they still say you need a publisher,” Lanning explained. “We don’t have a publisher so we’re not officially on the platform, even though we’re compatible, even though we’ll be ready to do it. Period.

“Why do we need a publisher when we self-finance our games, we build our own IP, we manage our own IP and we’ve turned nearly two million units online as indie publishers sold – not free downloads? Why? What’s wrong with us?

“It’s a different level of perspective. Is it ridiculous? I guess it depends on what seat you’re sitting in. But I think right now Wall Street is seeing something else that’s ridiculous and we’re seeing it reflected in public companies’ stock values.

“Who’s in touch with their audience? And who seems out of touch with their audience? All we know is we’ve tried to get our games on their platform and we can’t do it – and I even helped them release the box.”

When I spoke with Lanning last year, it was clear that he has no love for capitalism and the desire to make money without then investing it back into something useful, such as more Oddworld games. In fact, he told me the whole series has anti-consumerist and institution undertones.

Lanning added that because Sony has many seasoned gamers helping formulate the company’s PS4 strategy, that it offers developers on the platform more freedom to try crazy and innovative ideas.

Despite being blocked by Microsoft’s need to have a publisher, Lanning said that while he may consider siding with a publisher to get the game released on Xbox consoles, he won’t sign a deal unless it makes sense from a revenue standpoint.

Lanning concluded, “I’ve had people tell me, ‘dude, just go up there, you’re losing millions of dollars.’ You know what? Oddworld wasn’t built on selling out.”

What do you make of Microsoft’s need to have a publisher? Is it old-hat? Is Sony doing it better? Let us know what you think below.

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23 Comments

  1. Lengendaryboss

    Is there really anything positive about MS and Xbox at moment? because this stench of negativity is really making me feel nervous for their future.

    #1 2 years ago
  2. OmegaSlayer

    *10 minutes of standing ovation*

    #2 2 years ago
  3. Ireland Michael

    @1 Any negative future they get is fully deserved. A kick up the ass is exactly what they need.

    A million applause to Lanning for his honesty. He’s completely right.

    #3 2 years ago
  4. Samoan Spider

    Come to Steam! Me love you long time :D

    #4 2 years ago
  5. NiceFellow

    @1

    The family sharing idea sounds interesting
    The basic specs/design is good/solid
    The new controller is very good
    The launch lineup is solid if uninspired Titanfall aside

    But all that is – fairly I’m afraid – shadowed by the negatives. Central concepts behind the console are flawed, ill thought out and harmful to consumer freedom. In short, MS needs a bloody nose on this one so they sort themselves out and get back to properly serving the market.

    #5 2 years ago
  6. Djoenz

    Wow not selling out. Damn I need to support this somehow. Let me donate!

    #6 2 years ago
  7. Samoan Spider

    @5 That’s one of the most balanced assessments I’ve read in the last few days and I entirely agree with you to boot. Well put.

    #7 2 years ago
  8. melonbuster1

    The game will come out on both platforms

    #8 2 years ago
  9. Lengendaryboss

    @Michael
    My sentiments exactly. @Nicefellow Well i can’t keep checking onto my console daily i don’t even do that, portable devices however is a different story.
    See that negative can outshine the positives you stated.

    #9 2 years ago
  10. Ireland Michael

    @6 Throw down a sale for Stranger’s Wrath HD on the PlayStation Store if that’s an option for you. Minor masterpiece and a bonafide classic, that game.

    #10 2 years ago
  11. manamana

    Microsoft showing Minecraft vs. Sony showing indies on stage presenting their own games. Really, it’s just showeffect but tells the whole story.

    #11 2 years ago
  12. KAP

    I love that this dude, rather keep his integrity then make millions.
    We all must learn from that…

    After reading this entire article I have a better understanding of Microsoft plans and why developers have issues with them.
    Sony, is really taking a huge risk on us gamers and that I applaud.
    I’ve preordered my PS4 after reading this article to support them.

    #12 2 years ago
  13. Dave Cook

    Lorne Lanning is a proper dude. Interviewed him at Eurogamer Expo last year and the man doesn’t bullshit around, totally anti-establishment and tells it how it is. We need more folk like him.

    #13 2 years ago
  14. OwnedWhenStoned

    @5 I have to agree. It’s the degree of arrogance shown by MicroSoft that really angers people.

    #14 2 years ago
  15. The_Red

    Ouch @ CD Project (The Witcher 3 team).

    Seriously, they are kinda saying that Witcher 3 guys sold out to MS. Of course the scope and budget of W3 does require for the game to be released on all platforms but still, ouch.

    (Also, if the only reason for CD Project to release on X1 was the need of the game, they could have done so without having a flashy show on X1 conference of all places).

    #15 2 years ago
  16. Telepathic.Geometry

    I think that CD Project have enough oomph to be able to look after their fans on X1 if they want to, so I wouldn’t worry too much about that…

    #16 2 years ago
  17. TheBlackHole

    I can live without his games. The one he made to ‘help launch the box’ wasn’t exactly great.

    #17 2 years ago
  18. Clupula

    This means it’s an automatic sale for me. I hope CD Project grow the balls to do the same.

    #18 2 years ago
  19. fearmonkey

    I love Oddworld, and Lanning is right, Munch’s Odyssey was one of the first 3 games I bought for the original Xbox. I have loved every Oddworld game, and I hope for new titles in the future. Stranger’s Wrath was great too, I always wished for a sequel. I am so glad he is back in the business.

    MS has been this way for a long time. I remember Peter Moore being questioned about Mechassualt and Crimson Skies around the time of the 360 launch, and he said that they were looking for bigger more impactful titles than those two. They later sold Fasa rights off to the guy who started it, which was incredibly stupid.

    MS is just so arrogant and restrictive, and I hope they get brought down a peg.

    #19 2 years ago
  20. DSB

    Lanning deserves a medal

    #20 2 years ago
  21. OlderGamer

    Will buy this game day one.

    #21 2 years ago
  22. gargus

    That’s one of the reasons why I like the PS4. They really got behind developers, publishers and indie guys.

    Sony even is waiving fees for smaller updates to indie games, they practically gave away dev kits to for indie guys, they have a team devoted to supporting the indie guys, they let them set their own prices and they let indie guys self publish on PSN.

    Supporting the big guys is important, but getting behind the little guys that wont net you as much raw cash speaks volumes about the company.

    #22 2 years ago
  23. Jacob.Goode

    When i was younger i played munches oddessy on my xbox all the time and i still do up to this day in fact i still have my origanal xbox just laying around just for this game. It would be a disapointment to me if this game did not come out on the xbox 360

    #23 11 months ago

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  • Call of Duty European Championship winner announced

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  • GOG brings back Insomnia sale with discounts up to 90% off

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  • 2K is shutting down NBA 2K14 online servers, won’t affect career save files

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  • One Dead or Alive tournament organiser is proposing ban of “over-sexualised” costumes

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  • Destiny: all the news from Bungie’s open house Q&A

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  • Elite: Dangerous and Star Citizen to honour Nimoy with in-game memorials

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  • Deal: get a PlayStation 4 + three exclusives for $399

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  • Destiny: this is how one player predicted House of Wolves details and Xur’s inventory

    The method one Redditor possibly used to leak some details from Destiny’s House of Wolves was the same one he used to predict the inventory of Xur: Agent of the Nine. Last week, Reddit user Megamanexe4 leaked a few pieces of House of Wolves expansion content. The leaks included strikes, new Crucible mode, and a […]

  • Mortal Kombat X is coming to iOS… as a card-battler

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  • Metal Gear Solid 5: The Phantom Pain announcement coming this Wednesday

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  • Battlefield Hardline Premium: here’s everything you get for $50

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  • Hayter’s gonna hate: the voice of Solid Snake wouldn’t answer my Metal Gear question

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  • Xbox One bundle gets £100 price cut in UK

    Microsoft has knocked up to £100 off Xbox One bundles in the UK. The Xbox One with Kinect Assassin’s Creed bundle is now £100 cheaper and comes with a free £20 voucher to be spent on the official Microsoft online store. Over on the Xbox online store there’s a £70 price cut on the white […]

  • Pokemon Shuffle downloaded 1m times, free stuff given out to celebrate

    Free-to-play 3DS title Pokemon Shuffle has been downloaded over 1 million times. As a reward for playing the match-3 puzzle game Nintendo has gifted players a Complexity -1 item for free. The item reduces the difficulty of a level, according to Eurogamer. By all accounts Pokemon Shuffle is a cynical game with poorly implemented microtransactions. […]

  • Trine 3: The Artifacts of Power sure is pretty

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  • Dying Light takes UK number one

    A month since it was released on digital platforms, Dying Light’s physical release has topped the UK charts. Techland and Warner’s zombie survival game has proven to be one of the big hits of the year so far. It was released on digital formats a month ago but has only just been released on good-old […]

  • GTA 5: that’s some seriously accurate grenade throwing

    Think you can take down a jet plane with a grenade throw? This guy can. In fact, he can do it twice. This is in a variation on the player-created deathmatch “Stunters Versus Snipers” which seem to be all the rage in GTA Online at the moment. One team has a sniper rifle (and grenades) […]

  • Metal Gear Solid 5: Mother Base turns pink in the morning sun

    The Phantom Pain looks nice even when Kojima just takes a quick pic with his phone. Look at that beauty. We get nice reflection in pink at the first gray of dawn. pic.twitter.com/aERTBoZT9z — HIDEO_KOJIMA (@HIDEO_KOJIMA_EN) March 2, 2015 The game doesn’t have a release date yet, which makes us a bit nervous for it […]

  • Dying Light: Underpant Gnomes and 9 other secrets you missed

    Dying Light still has legs – maybe because it’s crammed full of secret things to discover. Ten of those have been highlighted by TerraMantis’ latest YouTube video, including reference to the Underpant Gnomes, guitar lessons, farting zombies and well, we don’t want to spoil it for you. Even if you think you’ve seen everything in […]