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DICE 2013: Muzyka and Urquhart discuss “The Future of The RPG Genre”

Saturday, 9 February 2013 21:01 GMT By Stephany Nunneley

Obsidian’s Feargus Urquhart and Bioware co-founder Ray Muzyka gave a joint talk during DICE 2013 this week, in which they discussed the future of RPGs. In the space of 20 minutes, the industry vets touched upon how to engage players, game monetization, and other tidbits. You can watch the talk, aptly named “A Conversation About The Future of The RPG Genre,” below courtesy of Variety.

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26 Comments

  1. HauntaVirus

    CD Projekt RED is the future of RPGs, end of story.

    #1 2 years ago
  2. Phoenixblight

    @1

    They are only one type and wouldn’t say their vision what an RPG is the one to follow.

    #2 2 years ago
  3. Bomba Luigi

    Love CDP Red and their Style, sure my Favorite Studio. But it would be sad having no Diversity in RPGs. There are so many diffrent Types of RPGS, and that is good.

    #3 2 years ago
  4. UuBuU

    @1 ~ No. Indie developers + kickstarter = the future of RPGs. From 2013 onwards there is going to be a significant revival in western RPGS ~ especially cRPGS ~ and that’s largely thanks to kickstarter.

    I like CDP Red ~ but their style is hardly the best and it sure as hell isn’t the only way RPGs should be done. Also ~ in my mind they are already in the same catagory as Bethesda and Bioware in terms of being too big and mainstream now to really make niche RPGs specifically for RPG fans.

    #4 2 years ago
  5. Giskard

    @4

    You place too much stock in Kickstarter and the RPGs to be produced from there. Most won’t be good, and the ones who are will hardly change anything.

    #5 2 years ago
  6. LuLshuck

    “When I die, fuck it I wanna go to hell
    cause I’m a piece of shit, it ain’t hard to fuckin’ tell”

    -Ray Muzyka on the making of mass effect 3

    #6 2 years ago
  7. Phoenixblight

    @4

    Especially since no game has been released. Just hoping for something when there is no evidence to provide that Kickstarter games will do anything for the industry. With the games that are in “beta” that I have funded with Kickstarter are hardly even functional let alone ground breaking.

    #7 2 years ago
  8. UuBuU

    @5/7 ~ Hardly change anything?

    CRPGs have been dead since the early 2000s. Kickstarter projects like Wasteland 2 and Project Eternity have pretty much single-handedly revived that genre and proven that there’s still a strong demand for such games.

    I’m guessing neither of you are CRPG fans ~ because for the people who are, this is the biggest thing to happen in gaming in about a decade.

    #8 2 years ago
  9. DSB

    Lots of prophecy going around.

    Lulz @ Muzyka. Hawking DLC through ingame characters was real classy.

    I think the prose outweighs the spreadsheet when it comes to RPGs. What’s the point of playing a role if it isn’t interesting?

    #9 2 years ago
  10. Giskard

    @8 If you say so. They still seem really dead to me.

    #10 2 years ago
  11. Phoenixblight

    @8

    Those games aren’t released so you have no evidence to prove your point. We have collection of screenshots, some videos which the newest one of Wastelanders 2 proves nothing except that I will be playing a game through a UI instead of the actual game. There is nothing to provide that Project eternity will be any better either. There is no info other than the vague Kickstarter they gave people.

    #11 2 years ago
  12. UuBuU

    @11 ~ They aren’t released yet, but I think it’s fairly safe to say that both developers know what they’re doing ~ and as far as having an influence on gaming goes, that’s already happened. They’ve already done the following:

    - Boosted the popularity of Kickstarter significantly, encouraging both gamers and developers to get involved.
    - Proven there’s still a big market for cRPGs, and proven that not all RPGs have to have fancy graphics, real-time action based combat, fully voiced dialogue, cinematics, etc. to sell well.

    As for Wasteland 2 being played through the UI ~ it’s so obvious from that stupid comment that you aren’t a PC gamer. Have you even played a strategy game or a cRPG before in your life?

    #12 2 years ago
  13. GwynbleiddiuM

    @Phoenix, I think what he meant was that there has been a lot of change to the genre since 2000, and traditional CRPGs were no where to be found (well of course there was a few titles like NWN2 and Drakensang games). Those kickstarter projects; Project Eternity, Shadowrun and Wasteland 2 proved that people are desperately looking forward to those projects. The evidence is those projects did more than meeting their goals with an overwhelming amount of fan funding.

    But I also agree that we haven’t anything in our hands to prove otherwise. Demand is there, product isn’t, yet.

    Also, gameplay-wise, how Wasteland is played is because this genre goes back to pen and paper era, Classic RPGs are played like that, in a turn base fashion with heavy emphasis on RNG or dice rolls. And I for one can’t wait for those games.

    @10 Seems dead to you because major publishers wont support CRPGs, that’s why we rarely see them anymore. In another word you aren’t wrong about it.


    As a hardcore RPG fan, I think the genre haven’t evolved in the right directions. While I enjoyed the fuck out of many RPG releases this passed decade, none of them gave me any freedom to do interesting things in their worlds. One example comes to mind that was very close and that was Fallout: NV, maybe Dragon Age: Origins too it was a great journey at the very least, can’t say that about most games I played. I have to agree with DSB’s last sentence.

    #13 2 years ago
  14. Phoenixblight

    @12

    ” think it’s fairly safe to say that both developers know what they’re doing”

    Uh huh, WHat have you been smoking? I would say you need to lay off of it. Inxile most recent game was utter trash, not just in game play but it being a horribly bugged mess. Then Obsidian which have a record of delivering hit or misses but are known for their bugged messes as well. The only game I have enjoyed by them this gen was New Vegas but even that was mediocre because of it being riddled with bugs that break your game.

    #14 2 years ago
  15. UuBuU

    @14 ~ Wasteland 2 and Project Eternity are CRPGs. Both development teams know what they’re doing and have a strong track record when it comes to making CRPGs, with key individuals from Interplay Entertainment, Troika Games, and Black Isle Studios.

    Looking at games like the original Fallout, Planescape: Torment, Arcanum, etc. will give you a better idea of the quality to expect from Wasteland 2 / Project Eternity than looking at games like New Vegas or Hunted: The Demon’s Forge.

    #15 2 years ago
  16. Phoenixblight

    @15

    Played all those games. So now we are going with games that are 10+ years ago somehow proves they know what their doing. Funny, People said the same thing about ID and Rage. Yeah….

    #16 2 years ago
  17. UuBuU

    @16 ~ Project Eternity is essentially using the same mould as the Infinity Engine games, taking the best aspects from all of them. It’s therefore perfectly valid to look at the Infinity Engine games when anticipating the quality of Project Eternity.

    #17 2 years ago
  18. Kabby

    All they talk about is using players as data points and monetisation. They’re both done.

    #18 2 years ago
  19. Phoenixblight

    @16

    Yes because an engine makes a good game *rolls eyes*

    #19 2 years ago
  20. UuBuU

    @19 ~ You’re missing the point. They’re not actually using the Infinity Engine for Project Eternity. They’re just trying to emulate the style and quality of the Infinity Engine games.

    #20 2 years ago
  21. Phoenixblight

    @20

    You are missing the point as well. ID was doing the same thing with Rage and well we all see how that went. Just because they are trying to do something from the past that was success doesn’t mean they will grab it again.

    #21 2 years ago
  22. UuBuU

    @21 ~ Comparing Rage to Project Eternity is stupid and completely irrelevant. Rage was intended to be new and innovative, not oldschool.

    #22 2 years ago
  23. GwynbleiddiuM

    @21 There’s a distinctive difference, Project Eternity already succeeded through crowd funding and it’s not even released yet. And RAGE meant to do different than oldschool, it meant to mix shooting and driving in an open world environment. Then since he was hell bent on bringing the game to XBOX 360 he had to sacrifice a lot to be able to have it on 3 discs. Ever since id decided to do console games they’ve been creatively dead. Their last good game IMO was Quake 3.

    #23 2 years ago
  24. Phoenixblight

    @23

    Rage was not crap because it went to consoles. Carmack’s entire focus for the game was using a new tech for a way to reference one big ass texture file for the entire game. All it was is a tech demo.

    “Project Eternity already succeeded through crowd funding and it’s not even released yet”

    My point exactly its not released neither is Wastelanders 2. I am done with this argument. Obsidian is not who they were 10 years ago in fact most of their members have been let go over the years. The same for InXile. A studio is not just one guy its a team and its by that team that they make good or horrible games. They aren’t the same studio.

    Just because it was successfully crowd-funded =/= make it a successful game. There are plenty of games that were successfully funded and they flopped afterwards. I have watched the videos and the screenshots of Wastelanders 2 and I am honestly not impressed especially with the money behind them. I have seen much smaller teams use a 10th of that and come out with far better looking games.

    #24 2 years ago
  25. GwynbleiddiuM

    @Phoenix Well, I’m not saying you’re entirely wrong, but you’re not quite right either. And trust me I understand that a game isn’t made by one person and the name of a company is not a guarantee for a successful product. I think everyone knows here that I’m one of the greatest critics of Obsidian around here, but they have that potential to make great games, FNV is a great example (bugs aside).

    And I know where you come from (being the student of the craft) so I imagine you know what you’re talking about and you make some valid points, I wont deny that. But, I also think that PE and Wasteland 2 have that potential to be worthy titles, I can almost guarantee they’ll be much better than a triple A game named Dragon Age 2, which had EA’s marketing, and the magnificent talent of BioWare behind it, yet they didn’t even bother to put some content in the game. There were like 3-4 dungeon settings, cave, mine, wooden interior and stone interior that almost exactly looked like each other, I’m not even gonna bring up the NPCs, enemies, weapons and….

    #25 2 years ago
  26. Malmer

    Asynchronos multiplayer…bla bla…social aspects…bla bla bla…telemetry…bla bla bla…

    All I want is a well written engaging story, great characters and meaningful choices. The rest is secondary.

    #26 2 years ago

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  • Destiny gameplay designer exits for Bethesda

    Destiny’s senior gameplay designer Josh Hamrick announced on Twitter overnight he would be leaving the company in a week’s time for Bethesda. Hamrick joined Bungie in 2009 after working two years at Midway Austin, where he created multiplayer maps, modified single-player levels, and other designer functions. He was in charge of fixing bug in code […]

  • What to expect from the Call of Duty Championship this weekend

    Just settling down to the Call of Duty Championship this weekend? Here’s a rundown of today’s matches and what else to expect over the next three days. The Call of Duty Championship is taking place in LA this weekend until Sunday, with 32 four-player teams battling it out for a prize pot of $1 million. […]

  • MLB 15 The Show video highlights improved graphics, updated grass patterns

    Sony has released a video for MLB 15 The Show which provides a look at graphical improvements made to the game. Along with the visual upgrade over MLB 14 The Show, the game contains new minor league stadiums, dynamic sun generated in real-time, and upgraded grass patterns which reflect each stadium’s unique look. MLB 15 […]

  • Valve to offer HTC Vive Developer Edition free to qualified developers

    Valve has said it will offer the HTC Vive Developer Edition for free to qualified developers in an effort to buoy projects before the tech launches commercially. Surgeon Simulator developer Bossa Studios and The Room studio Fireproof Games are just some of the developers which already have a free Vive in-hand. According to Valve’s Doug […]

  • DriveClub gameplay video features MotorStorm’s off-road buggies

    Some gameplay footage of MotorStorm’s off-road buggies in DriveClub has surfaced. Pictures of the buggies were shown on the Japanese PlayStation Blog earlier this month, which considering the game was developed by Evolution Studios – which developed MotorStorm – this isn’t too much of a surprise. The buggies were first spotted by Videogamer, which pulled […]

  • Mortal Kombat X live-action TV spot features the track Chop Suey

    The TV sport for Mortal Kombat X has been released, and not only does it contain a “spontaneous fight circle” taking over an entire city, but it features the System of a Down track Chop Suey. Mortal Kombat X will be released on PC, PlayStation 3, PS4, Xbox 360 and Xbox One April 14. The […]

  • Bloodborne Forbidden Woods progression bug caused by multiplayer summon

    A progression bug in Bloodborne is in the works, according to Sony and From Software. The issue occurs when players activate a multiplayer session in the Forbidden Woods using the Sinister Resonant Bell or Small Resonant Bell. It also appears the Lunarium Key won’t appear because of the multiplayer bug, and without the key you […]

  • Yo-Kai Watch game franchise has sold over 7 million copies

    The Yo-Kai Watch IP has sold over 7 million copies, according to developer Level-5. The figure included both physical and digital download sales. Yo-Kai Watch 3 will be unveiled during Level-5 Vision 2015 next month. The first title is in the works for the west but is still without a release window. Thanks, Gematsu.

  • Bloodborne trademark returned to Sony after accidentally losing it

    In case you were worried or anything, Sony has once again obtained the Bloodborne trademark. Earlier this week it was revealed that Sony mistakenly abandoned the Bloodborne trademark along with four others registered with US Patent and Trademark Office: Guns Up!, Kill Strain; How Games Were Made to Sound, and No Heroes Allows: No Puzzles […]

  • GTA 5 PC official trailer coming next week, 15 new screenshots released

    New PC screenshots of GTA 5 have been released along with word of a new trailer coming on Monday. The screens below are from the PC version and you can view them in 4K glory over on Rockstar Newswire. The PC version of GTA 5 releases on April 14.

  • PSN real-time server status page launching in Europe soon

    PlayStation users in Europe will soon have its own a PSN Service Status Indicator. It was released earlier this month in North America. The indicator makes it easier to check whether PlayStation services are down or running as planned. This includes account management, PlayStation Now, the store, social services, etc. Sony told Eurogamer the service […]

  • Exclusivity contract prevents Bioware from revealing Dragon Age: Inquisition DLC release on PS4

    Bioware is unable to discuss when the Jaws of Hakkon DLC for Dragon Age: Inquisition will arrive on platforms other than PC and Xbox One. According to various tweets from executive producer Mark Darrah, due to the exclusivity contract between EA and Microsoft, the studio is unable to announce a release date for PlayStation 3 […]

  • LEGO Batman 3 demo, Namco Museum, more added to North American eShop

    Nintendo has updated the North American end of the eShop with a demo for LEGO Batman 3, Namco Museum on Wii U Virtual Console, and various sales. Below is the full update. Nintendo eShop Dot Arcade – Wii U LEGO Ninjago – 3Ds LEGO Batman 3: Beyond Gotham Demo – Wii U Harvest Moon: The […]

  • Square Enix’s Easter Surprise bundle contains five mystery PC games

    Square Enix offering another mystery bundle to customers in the UK, which comes with five mystery PC games for £3.99. As before, customers will be unaware of the games they are purchasing in the mystery bundle, but the bundle contains triple-A titles worth £40 combined. One of Square’s previous mystery bundles contained Tomb Raider, Just […]

  • From Software’s PSone game Shadow Tower coming to PSN

    Shadow Tower, the first-person action-RPG developed for the original PlayStation by From Software, will be released on PlayStation Network. In the 1998 title, players took on the role of a mercenary who has returned home to the Holy Land of Zeptar to find the place has been sucked into the Underworld. He must use the […]

  • PlayStation TV gets price cut in the UK, now £44.99

    PlayStation TV has received a price cut in the UK. After several retailers started offering the console for less than the RRP of £84.99, users on DealSpwn began to wonder whether this is an official price cut, and not just regular deals or stock clearance. Sony later confirmed the new price of £44.99. “Starting from […]

  • Fast & Furious expansion for Forza Horizon 2 is now available, for free

    You can download Forza Horizon 2 expansion Fast & Furious starting right now. Forza Horizon 2 Presents Fast & Furious is available to download now through Xbox Live for Xbox One and Xbox 360. The expansion is standalone, so you don’t need to own Forza Horizon 2 to play it. It’s also free from now […]

  • Fire-based weapons come to PayDay 2 with the Butcher’s BBQ Pack

    The 20th DLC for PayDay 2, the Butcher’s BBQ Pack, is now available on Steam. The DLC will run you $4.99/€4.99 and features: Piglet Grenade Launcher, 12G Steakout Shotgun and Mk1 Flamethrower Molotov cocktails and incendiary ammo Four new masks, patterns, materials and achievements The Butcher’s BBQ Pack is another co-development between Overkill and Croatian […]

  • Lords of the Fallen developer offers Hideo Kojima a job

    Amid the current turmoil between Hideo Kojima and publisher Konami, one studio has offered the legendary designer a position. Lords of the Fallen developer Deck 13 took to Twitter to extend a job offer to Hideo Kojima. Dear Mr. @HIDEO_KOJIMA_EN In case you are currently searching, we have an open position as Head of Game […]

  • Destiny Xur update: should you buy MIDA Multi Tool?

    The question on every Destiny player’s lips today. And the answer, supplied by resident Destiny expert Paul Davies, is… Yes! We asked Paul whether or not he thought Xur’s Exotic weapon this week was worth the 23 Strange Coins. Here’s what he said: “It was already a great gun to own for PVP owing to […]

  • Final Fantasy 15 has an all-male cast to make it “more approachable”

    According to Final Fantasy 15 director Hajime Tabata, the main cast of the game is all-male because it makes the game “more approachable.” Final Fantasy 15 director Hajime Tabata spoke to Gamespot about the reason for his choice of making the core cast an all-male affair. “Speaking honestly, an all-male party feels almost more approachable […]

  • Hearthstone Blackrock Mountain is coming April 2

    Blizzard has given Hearthstone expansion Blackrock Mountain a solid release date. Hearthstone’s Blackrock Mountain adventure pack will be released April 2 in the Americas region, and April 3 in Europe, Korea, Taiwan, and China. Blackrock Depths is the first wing to be released, others will follow one week apart. Other than the 31 new cards, […]

  • Bloodborne: if you can’t load your save after installing firmware 2.50, this will help

    If you’re having issues loading your Bloodborne save after applying firmware update 2.50 to your PS4, this should help you out. Reddit user KBALLZZ encountered an issue after installing update 2.50 on his PlayStation 4. Bloodborne started reinstalling the day one patch again and when it was done he couldn’t continue his game or load […]

  • Use this code to get 10% off on PSN purchases

    Sony is offering a 10% discount coupon to anyone looking to buy games on PlayStation Store this weekend. Sony’s latest discount coupon code is here. You’ll receive 10% off your cart total when buying from the PSN Store. The offer is not valid on purchases made on PS Vita, PlayStation TV, PSP, or in-game stores. […]

  • Dark Souls 2: Scholar of the First Sin upgrade path announced, system specs revealed

    Dark Souls 2: Scholar of the First Sin will offer returning customers a chance to upgrade at a discounted price. Those who already own Dark Souls 2 on Steam and are interested in picking up the Scholar of the First Sin edition will be happy to know that publisher Bandai Namco is offering them an […]

  • Bloodborne: this is what happens when you have 40 Insight

    Insight is one of the currencies in Bloodborne, but it’s also a mechanic that affects the gameplay. There are MASSIVE SPOILERS below, so turn back now or one of Bloodborne’s gameplay mechanics will be SPOILED for you. Just like Blood Echoes in Bloodborne, Insight is used to purchase certain items from vendors in the game. […]

  • Phase two of Xbox One April update brings voice messages, dedicated servers for party chat, more

    The second phase of the April update for Xbox One is now open to members of the Preview programme and and it looks like there are even more features in store. Phase one of Xbox One’s April firmware update started a few days ago with improvements to party chat and achievements notifications. Today, phase two […]

  • GTA 5′s graphical “downgrade” is a bug, will be fixed in upcoming patch

    As of patch 1.8 for GTA 5 on PlayStation 4 and Xbox One, a few graphical issues have cropped up leading some to believe there has been a stealth downgrade to the game’s overall graphics. Over the past couple of days, Reddit went nuts over a video showing what appears to be a downgrade to […]

  • Destiny: Xur location and inventory for March 27, 28 – MIDA Multi-Tool edition

    Xur: Agent of the Nine has arrived at The Tower in Destiny to rid you of your Strange Coins. Xur: Agent of the Nine has once again made it to Destiny’s Tower to sell you Exotic weapons and gear in exchange for Strange Coins and Motes of Light. For this weekend, Xur can be found […]

  • Destiny vault space upgrade will have enough room for every Exotic

    Destiny is finally getting the vault space upgrade players have been begging for almost since launch week. Destiny players can currently use vault space to store 20 pieces of amour, 20 weapons and 20 general item stacks. In the latest Bungle Weekly Update, the developer revealed that as of patch 1.1.2, due before House of […]

  • Half-Life 2: Update mod applies some sparkle to the original title

    Half-Life 2: Update will be available tomorrow, and thanks to the modding community, those who own the vanilla version of the game can apply a visual update to the 2004 title. The comparison video shows you the differences between the original version, and the version with Half-Life 2: Update applied. Here’s what the mod includes: […]

  • Neverwinter MMO can now be pre-downloaded on Xbox One

    You can now pre-download the free-to-play Neverwinter MMO on Xbox One. The game launches on March 31, but you will still need an Xbox Live Gold account to play it. Based on the Dungeons & Dragons franchise, the game can be downloaded from the Xbox Store.

  • Destiny of Spirits will go offline starting next month

    Sony will be ending service for Destiny of Spirits starting next month, Sony has announced. The free-to-play Destiny of Spirits was released in late March 2014 on Vita, and tasked players with collecting supernatural forces appropriate to their geographical location, and then trading them with others online. Gravity Rush spirits were added to the game […]

  • MotoGP 15 is out this spring on PC, last and current-gen consoles

    MotoGP 15 will be released in June on PC, PlayStation 3, PS4, Xbox 360 and Xbox One, Milestone has announced. Bike, rider and team customization are part of the latest release in the franchise, along with time-trials and enhanced career options. The game features over 20 bike models divided into three classes: MotoGP, Moto 2 […]

  • Cities: Skylines players should check out Nakatomi Plaza and Wayne Enterprises

    Nakatomi Plaza and Wayne Enterprises can now be yours in Cities: Skylines. Die Hard fans will be familiar with Nakatomi Plaza. Those who have never watched the first film and live in Los Angeles know it by its real-life name, FOX Plaza. It was created by Enos Shenk and is available through Steamworks. Those who […]

  • Call of Duty franchise has sold 175M copies, players have thrown 300B grenades

    With the Call of Duty Championship kicking off tomorrow, Activision has sent over a series infographic full of interesting figures such as the number of copies sold over 10 years and how many grenades players have tossed. According to the stats below, the Call of Duty franchise has sold 175 million copies across all platforms […]