Pachter has harsh words for Wii U, thinks Activision should buy Take-Two

How come Nintendo never get called out for all of their marketing power? I see more ads on TV for Nintendo products than I do anything else…

@51

Der rule 10.1…. Don’t you know anything?!

***Rule 10.1 : ‘Excluding Nintendo’

@44:

Indeed, they are core gamers. Like them, loath them, consider them sheep, whatever, they are the core gamers who support the industry. They are most certainly not casuals.

@45:

It’s not the case that I think about the WiiU this way, because I simply “don’t like” Nintendo.

I’m just going by what Nintendo have shown us so far. You’re forgetting that they, themselves, have never tried to make an issue out of power/potential.

If Nintendo have chosen not to come out with a single game that shows off the potential of the WiiU, then that’s their fault.

I can only judge their console on how they present it to me, and so far, everything that I’ve seen from them looks like it could have been done on the Wii.

That’s why I said before, that until someone comes up with a game that clearly puts the WiiU into the 8th gen, then there’s absolutely zero reason for me to change my mind.

If I’m wrong, then that’s Nintendo’s fault for not marketing their product well.

I’m not prepared to spend my money on a company who hasn’t delivered on the potential of any of it’s home consoles since the N64.

So far, they have given me no reason to at all. All they seem to have is a current gen console that needs a huge day 1 patch, is all too easily bricked, freezes up constantly, eats DVDs, has a slow UI, has a weak online system (all from the words of WiiU owners) and is regularly slaughtered by the gaming and mainstream press alike.

If Nintendo do something about it, I may change my mind, but until then, it’s not a next gen console by any stretch of the imagination.

@46:

“ Most CoD players pick the game up and play for a couple of hours every other day”

That still works out at 350+ hours of CoD gaming. It doesn’t fit the description at all.

Trying to imply that a “casual gamer” plays a game for 350+ hours before buying the next version, and the next version, is ridiculous.

That’s the equivalent of more than 35 10 hour SP campaign games.

Who plays 35 SP campaigns a year?

@53

“Like them, loath them, consider them sheep, whatever, they are the core gamers who support the industry. They are most certainly not casuals.”

Not really though, how are they supporting the industry if they only buy COD and FIFA every year, there only really supporting EA and Activision really. Maybe MS if they buy Online obviously…?

In fact, a so called ‘casual gamer’, that buys Mario Kart, Mario, Angry Birds, Your Shape Fitness evolved, Dance Central, skylanders and Lego Lord of the Rings would have actually contributed more and had a more varied gaming experience overall.

#53 GIGA “I’m just going by what Nintendo have shown us so far. You’re forgetting that they, themselves, have never tried to make an issue out of power/potential.
That’s why I said before, that until someone comes up with a game that clearly puts the WiiU into the 8th gen, then there’s absolutely zero reason for me to change my mind.

If I’m wrong, then that’s Nintendo’s fault for not marketing their product well”

GIGA i will believe that, if you feel the same way about the other consoles, all of them had bad ports, especially in the first year of its release, even the first party titles for both consoles perfect dark or resistance, werent indicative of all the power they did hold in future years, a power that were shown by future games, therefore i dont think is their fault for not marketing the product well, this happens to all consoles, and it is expected, or do you expect to see uncharted 2, gears of war 3 on the first year of the console lyfecycle?, i didnt hear you complaining about this for the other consoles, why with nintendo WiiU?, it is not a marketing fault, it is expected as the developers become more aware of the new architecture, the games get better with time on their lifecycle, WiiU is not different.

As for gamer categories…

Of course there’s a difference.

Is a movie buff, who builds a home cinema and can tell you the difference between 24 and 25fps without even looking, like a person who only ever watches the latest Marvel comic release twice a year?

No.

One is casual, the other is hardcore.

Then you have the core, in the middle, who watch 8-10 movies at the cinema per year, and use NetFlix, etc on a weekly basis.

Three distinct categories. One supports the industry, one takes it to an extreme, the other dips his toe in the water every now and then.

It’s exactly the same with gamers. I don’t see what’s wrong with admitting that.

It doesn’t make one person better than another, it just makes it easier to define and discuss things.

@54 And there’s the problem with the industry today, they are supporting EA, Activision and Ubisoft, while other companys are getting closed. See how they are really affectig the market? Or you think this is all just a coincidence? This week we saw the closure of what? 3 or 4 studios?

@56 Couldn’t explain it better, not that it’s bad to be one of them, you are one of them. But in the end it’s all gamers. Like we are all people, but who fit in different parts of the society. *whoa, there I’ve gone deep*

@54:

They don’t have to buy other products directly to support the industry. The fact that CoD is so popular, makes EA release countless wannabes, for example, which also make money.

It’s a system like many other industries, where the top 2% indirectly generate business for the other struggling 98% of companies. It all filters down eventually. It’s not pretty, but it’s how things work.

Besides, not every CoD player is a one game person. Many also buy other games.

@55:

“ i didnt hear you complaining about this for the other consoles, why with nintendo WiiU?”

Originally, I wanted a PS3. I drank the Sony Kool Aid. I was super hyped, and was ready for a day 1 purchase, no matter the price. I didn’t buy a 360, which looked like a poor console to me at the time, and waited for a PS3.

Then it came out, and it simply had nothing about it that made me think that it was worth the money over a 360. Sony even offered them to the company where I worked at the time for about £50 less than the high street price, but I wasn’t interested.

I went for a few good months with the PS3 and 360 both being out, but I bought none of them, just like I’m not buying a WiiU now.

So, I haven’t changed at all. I treat all hardware, not just gaming hardware, in the same way.

It was only after I bought a 360 as an impulse buy that I even discovered how much I liked XBL.

Manufacturers have to convince me to spend my money. I want to buy new stuff, so if I don’t spend my money on them, it’s their fault. It’s because they didn’t sell their product well enough.

This gen, I’ve bought a (number of) 360(s) a PS3, a Wii, a couple of DSs, and a laptop that I bought with playing SC2 in mind.

I have strong opinions about companies, but if I see a good product, I will try and buy it.

For example, I despise Apple as a company, but I have an iPad, because I think it’s a quality product.

I think I’m being impartial about this. I may be wrong, but I like to think that Nintendo could change my mind by doing a bit more.

So far, they are failing.