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PS Vita hack can’t be used to pirate games, creator ’100% against piracy’

Friday, 7th September 2012 13:20 GMT By Dave Cook

PS Vita was recently hacked to allow for homebrew development and play, but CVG reports the hack cannot be used to pirate games.

Engineered by Yifan Lu, the hack is part of Lu’s Usermode Vita Loader project, which will make it possible for anyone to create and play homebrew games on PS Vita.

Lu took to Twitter and explained on Twitter that his loader could not be use to play pirate PS Vita games, stating that it is “physically impossible to decrypt or load retail games with my exploit”.

However, in an interview with PlayStation Lifestyle, Lu did acknowledge that the loader could be used as a backdoor to piracy, “When the exploit goes public, it could be used as a stepping stone to analyze the system for farther exploits, including the more desirable kernel exploit, which if found would open the system up entirely (mods, CFW, maybe even Linux/Android, and unfortunately ISO loaders).”

“However, it takes a lot of skills to find such an exploit,” Lu added, “and those who I talked to with the necessary skills are all anti-piracy. However, not thinking of potential other exploits, this one can only be used to load homebrews and nothing else…Sony’s system is really well designed and I believe a kernel exploit is very far away.”

Lu was keen to stress that he was “100% against piracy and no tool I will make will benefit piracy. This tool, in fact, cannot be used for loading backups/pirated content even if I want to because of the physical limitations of the exploit (it is userland, no rights to decrypt/load games).”

Thanks again CVG.

What do you think about Lu’s loader. Speak your mind below.

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23 Comments

  1. TFPtMaster

    Kudos for Lu.

    #1 2 years ago
  2. Imphobia

    As much as I want to give him the benefit of the doubt, the end doesn’t always justify the mean. By removing one layer of protection you are just facilitating piracy and the “homebrew” games will just end up a convenient excuse to further copyright infringements via emulators or running other commercial games.

    #2 2 years ago
  3. FeaturePreacher

    Still hopes he get sent to jail for a good raping and that Sony stops this. If these pirates really want to deal with homebrew, they should work with raspberry pi or any other number of open platforms.

    #3 2 years ago
  4. ManuOtaku

    He did contradict himself stating first is “physically impossible” and then that it could be use as a back door for piracy purposses, like i said in the other post regarding this topic, i do criticize Sony to this very day for the Other OS issue, and for that i didnt mind what Geoghotz did, given away the key to the open public, becuase that could gave the people affected, a choice in order to have the product the did bought in the first place, like it was advertised, even if this wanst his primary and main reason, at least gave in an easy excuse, and a buyable one, but in this case i dont agree because its not for giving back something that was on the device, and is something that will affect the industry as a whole, not only Sony, the developers and the vita as well in the end, and now to add the icing of the cake he is contradicting himself.

    #4 2 years ago
  5. KAP

    He thinks himself a “Robin Hood”, but that still doesn’t justify what he’s done.

    #5 2 years ago
  6. CycloneFox

    @3: I can’t believe how ignorant you are. a raspberry pi is an interesting device, but it is no vita. Alot of people wish to develop homebrews (or of course emulators) for the Vita, as it is the ultimate gaming platform with dual analog sticks, front and back touch and cameras and a nice big oled screen.

    The good thing is, you are already able to develop for Vita via Playstation Mobile which is a potent platform and nearly a reason not to try hacking the vita, if you ask me, when it finally releases later this year. But the bad thing is, you will have to publish your software via PSN to get it to run on a vita without a developer-license, which is still great for indi developers, but nothing for private developers.
    In other words, I can abolutely understand anyone who wants to break free of this jail.

    Yifan Lu’s jailbreak will, of course, not open any door for piracy as, how he already stated, you still can’t decrypt a vita game to copy it for running it on an cartridge-emulation homebrew-software and I suppose the PSP and PSOne emulators will still look for licenses before running a game. Sony has learned it’s lesson with the vita. The anti-piracy arrangements are really high in any area of this device. Even if you crack one part, you are still far away from hacking anti-piracy provisions. And piracy is not even what true hackers want. They just want to customize the device and run homebrew on it.
    Lu is one of the good guys and Sony’s devices always remain the highest software-sellers with the lowest pirace rate, even after being hacked.

    @4: Sony did nothing wrong with the OtherOS-option. It was stated in the license of the firmware-update that brought the “OtherOS”-option in, that sony remains the right to disable that function later on if it gets abused, as it was abused. That does not justify anything in the past over this current matter.

    #6 2 years ago
  7. TheBlackHole

    “He did contradict himself stating first is “physically impossible” and then that it could be use as a back door for piracy purposses,”

    Not really. You cannot use his exploit alone to pirate retail games – Fact. The exploit might help people looking to find more exploits – Fact.

    Nothing contradictory there.

    #7 2 years ago
  8. ManuOtaku

    #7 Well i dont see it that way because he said “physically impossible to decrypt or load retail games with my exploit”., that means that with his exploit, alone or in conjuction with other exploits will be physically impossible, which contradicts, at least this is how i see it, with the later interview comments, but i grant that someone else can think thats not the case, it is how just in interpreted this, is not something to discuss about, you might be right and i could be wrong.

    #8 2 years ago
  9. ps3fanboy

    this guy will ruin the psvita with his bollocks hacks… we did see what happen to the psp. if this guy is so against piracy at least give the psvita 5 years before he release his hacks, so the ones that bought it and want it for legit usage get their money worth…

    #9 2 years ago
  10. Talkar

    @9
    Are you being forced to install the hack? I don’t think so. How does him releasing a hack, which doesn’t allow piracy, prevent you from buying a game?

    #10 2 years ago
  11. OlderGamer

    Not to sound like a troll, but if the vita were able to run emus, it would look far more atractive as a purchase.

    #11 2 years ago
  12. DrDamn

    @11
    Couldn’t you just run the emulator on a PC and stream to the Vita – in the same way stuff like Skyrim was recent demoed? You aren’t going to get anything but PS1 and maybe PS2 on Vita as official emulators obviously.

    #12 2 years ago
  13. Talkar

    @12
    That is indeed possible. The problem is that you need to have your PC running. And you pretty much have to be close to it, because if a problem occurs with the streaming, how are you going to fix it if you aren’t any where near your computer? So while it is usable, it would be ‘better’ to have an emulator on the vita ;)

    #13 2 years ago
  14. ps3fanboy

    @10

    when it get hacked majority of people will not buy the software. then sony see no money from the psvita and stop developing for it, they wil only do necessary security fixes… the psp didnt get friendlist,send messages option,trophies etc and all game score lists where cheated because of it being hacked to death… the legit user lose out big time.

    #14 2 years ago
  15. Dragon246

    Vita is never intended for emulators and homebrew games (which were frankly shit on psp). Hackers like him just want to gain infamy by being “the first” to do it. I hope sony sues the hell out of him.
    Although I am sure vita won’t get a complete hypervisor level hack for years. Ps3 was a hackproof console for years.

    #15 2 years ago
  16. mongbatstar

    @14 … human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together… mass hysteria!

    #16 2 years ago
  17. Cogito

    I wouldn’t say that I fully agree with Lu hacking the PS Vita, but I do to some extent feel that he’s doing what Sony should consider doing to it. I’ve had a Vita since launch and I’m a bit dissapointed in that there haven’t really been as many notable releases.

    It’s a great console, but I have to admit that the idea of having a bunch of old games running on an emu on the Vita is a rather tasty prospect.

    If they’d release more PS2 games on it though, that’d be a different story. Would love to play my Shin Megami Tensei collection on it.

    #17 2 years ago
  18. Talkar

    @14
    Source?

    #18 2 years ago
  19. Hellhound30x

    Uhm so what… Geohotz hack didn’t allow for pirated games either… Sony didn’t care about that, they still took him to court. It took other hackers to modify Geohotz hack to allow for pirated games… its only a matter of time before someone does the samething here…

    #19 2 years ago
  20. ManuOtaku

    #6 “@4: Sony did nothing wrong with the OtherOS-option. It was stated in the license of the firmware-update that brought the “OtherOS”-option in, that sony remains the right to disable that function later on if it gets abused, as it was abused. That does not justify anything in the past over this current matter”

    If i dont recall wrong the Other OS was part of the first models sold, it came boxed with the product,not with a firmware update, it was part of the device since day one, on the box, which then was removed with an enforced update .

    #20 2 years ago
  21. Imphobia

    @19
    They didn’t care, that’s why they sued him obviously.

    #21 2 years ago
  22. magnumfinger

    Lu’s defense is the same sh!t used by geohot and other hackers out there to protect themselves.

    Sadly, it doesn’t work like that…

    Instead, the guy just need to bring his machete all around him when Sony finally decides to take him down.

    #22 2 years ago
  23. Dannybuoy

    A hacker with ethics; an oxymoron if I ever heard it

    #23 2 years ago

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