Xbox 720 – Microsoft could delay launch “until spring 2014,” says Pachter

Tuesday, 4th September 2012 16:34 GMT By Stephany Nunneley

With industry analysts, retailers, and publishers expecting next generation consoles to release next year at the earliest, Wedbush’s Michael Pachter believes 2014 is more likely. At least for the next-Xbox.

Speaking in an industry note, Pachter said he expects Microsoft to wait until spring 2014 to release the next-Xbox.

“We still have no indication of specs, timing or pricing for the Wii U, which is slated to launch some time before year-end, but Nintendo will announce a launch date and price next week, with a price point of $299 – 349 likely,” he wrote.

“We have heard no word yet from Microsoft or Sony about their plans to launch new consoles, but both manufacturers are widely expected to launch consoles by year-end 2013.

“Although we believe that Microsoft could delay a new console launch until spring of 2014 in order to accommodate what is certain to be overwhelming demand among hardcore gamers.”

Neither Sony nor Microsoft have confirmed if either console is in the works, but there have been enough thinly veiled hints and document leaks over the last few months to support development.



  1. xXNapsterManXx

    I think his on the ball, I have been in the no earlier then 2013 boat awhile now it’s looking to be 2014 although I had suspected would be that year for awhile, probably E3 2013 announcement from Microsoft.

    #1 2 years ago
  2. Froseidon

    I’m pretty sure Microsoft wanted to have the Xbox continue up ’til 2015 w/ Kinect, but with the way that has gone, 2014 sounds about right. gives me some time to save up mah money in Uni anyways :D

    #2 2 years ago
  3. vormison

    MS will delay as long as possible, I would think..right up until the point that Sony announces their release date if they do.

    #3 2 years ago
  4. Da Man

    MS will announce theirs in the spring and release it the next fall. As usual, Sony will announce theirs about after MS to try and hurt the hype and release it in two years or so.

    #4 2 years ago
  5. Moonwalker1982

    How much exactly has Pachter ever predicted correctly?

    #5 2 years ago
  6. Da Man

    He was right on about Psv.

    #6 2 years ago

    What’s this…?

    Pachter saying something controversial?

    No way!

    #7 2 years ago
  8. xxJPRACERxx

    Consoles is dead! Who want to pay 300-400 $$ for something that is already obsolete at release?

    #8 2 years ago
  9. ManuOtaku

    #8 I do, and three times per generation to be exactly, well five counting handhelds

    As for the topic at hand, he needs from time to time, to do wild guesses, in order to rise up his predictions accuracy rate

    #9 2 years ago

    ^ You and about 200 million other people, too.

    #10 2 years ago
  11. drewbles82

    I don’t think they would go for a 2014 spring and miss out on the holiday season, best time to release one as so many parents go out and buy them as the must have Christmas present resulting in selling out.
    MS have already said even after the release of a new console, they will still have games and be doing stuff for the 360 for a few years at least since millions have one and they arent about to give up straight away as money can still be made.

    #11 2 years ago
  12. Kuwabara

    Haven’t heard patcher speak in a while, back from the dead .

    #12 2 years ago
  13. ps3fanboy


    you have forgotten the xbox1 and how fast ms dropped that box when x360 arrived.. x360 will be dead when x720 arrives, no doubt about it. but a fifa game here and a kid Kinect game there, thats pretty much it for the x360 after its death. you cant call it alive and well…

    #13 2 years ago
  14. ManuOtaku

    #13 well in games yes, but in technical support no, they didnt drop the support for all the live multiplayer games, they did drop it back a few years, therefore they didnt dropped the first XBOX altogether.

    #14 2 years ago
  15. Da Man

    MS had to pay Nvidia fees and the first Xbox was unsuccessful outside of NA.

    But then I remember when PS2 came out the last half decent videogame released for the predecessor was Syphon Filter 3.

    #15 2 years ago
  16. Gadzooks!

    Xbox->360 will be nothing at all like 360->720. As DM pointed out the original Xbox had to be dropped due to Nvidia holding video card rights and refusing to negotiate costings. They also had a small install base so large scale support was simply not financially viable, or required at all as the majority of games were BC.

    MS own all the tech in the 360 and have a massive install base. It will be well supported for at least a couple of years after next gen launch.

    #16 2 years ago
  17. OrbitMonkey

    Ok daft question… But will we see games being released on 5 formats? Y’know for 360/PS3/WiiU/720 & Orbis?

    #17 2 years ago
  18. monkeygourmet

    My guess is MS will do another hardware revision with 360:

    Much smaller set-top box type device or even a Windows 8 table Xbox 360 mash up, which will still run games alongside the Wii-U but come out at a £99.99 ish price point. That way they can still advertise the new 720 or whatever to people through the old device.

    If it was a tablet, MS would ensure you ŵere using their tablet for Smart Glass over apple thus helping them in to that zone.

    Games on XBLA could still work, alongside games like FIFA etc…

    I would hope that the new machine would upscale to 360 games to 1080p, otherwise it’d seem strange them bothering to launch games like Halo 4, GTA5, New MGS etc… On such an old device.

    I mean, if Gears comes out in march, people will still be playing it come November if that’s when the new machine is likely to arrive.

    #18 2 years ago
  19. Gadzooks!

    I would expect many multi-gen releases after the next gen launches.

    The huge installed base is too lucrative to just abandon.

    Xbox720 is likely to be BC too, DirectX and a sensible PC-like architecture makes that relative simple. I very much doubt PS4 will though, as it wont be using Cell. Emulating that clusterfuck and the numerous hardware hacks to get it performing is pretty much out of the question.

    I think that’s where Gaikai will become useful, in streaming PS3 games. Far from ideal, but vaguely workable and better than nothing.

    #19 2 years ago
  20. drewbles82

    @13 your forgetting something though, in terms of how many people owned the first xbox and who owns a 360, theres a huge difference. 360 has been around longer and therefore will get support.

    #20 2 years ago
  21. monkeygourmet


    That would make sense, especially the GaiKai streaming for PS3 games…

    Still, this could really fuck Sony up, if the 720 could play 95% of its old back catalogue in 1080p and at 60fps, and Sony could only muster shitty streaming at 720p for the PS4, it’d be a clear disadvantage.

    The only thing stopping MS would be if they wanted to cash in on HD remasters on 720 although I don’t think they would be that stupid.

    If they could show GTA 5 running upscaled to 1080p on 720 at E3 next year, people would be throwing money at them.

    That would mean you could have a few launch titles to show off and a huge back catalogue.

    I expect MS will coincide the launch of 720 with a new COD, MW4 or whatever with huge exclusive features. Elite on smart glass etc…

    That could make sense heading for a Nov 2013 launch, it would also fuck Sony and Nintendo up in a BIG way.

    #21 2 years ago
  22. OrbitMonkey

    @Gad, The idea of Sony buying Gaiki, just so they can stream PS3 games to the Orbis sounds very plausible. It also has that Batshit Sony crazy stamped all over it :-/

    #22 2 years ago
  23. Gadzooks!


    Oh I expect they will find many more uses for Gaikai, but I reckon it could fill the BC hole nicely. Maybe make the full BC catalog available as a PSN+ addon package.

    By the time it kicks off properly there might even be enough bandwidth generally available to support it! :D

    #23 2 years ago
  24. OrbitMonkey

    @24, Lol, I imagine when they turn it on, they’ll be a loud bang as the hamster cage implodes ;-)

    #24 2 years ago
  25. Dragon246

    Waiting to see Kinect 2 and whether it will be mandatory with 720. Kinect was a revolutionary hardware and Kinect 2 will broaden horizons with more precision. Uses outside of gaming could be amazing.

    #25 2 years ago
  26. Keivz

    1080p, 60fps of the 360′s game catalog sounds f’brilliant! I may hold off playing some 360 games if that turns out to be true!

    #26 2 years ago
  27. DrDamn

    If Sony want to take backward compatibility seriously they will just chuck a cell into the machine as a secondary stream processor.

    On the subject of properly re-rendering existing games at a higher resolution and higher framerate than they were designed for? Unlikely. If someone can pull it off it would be MS with current libraries designed with it in mind, but it introduces a whole load of problems. They will likely go for more of an basic but consistent emulation approach.

    #27 2 years ago
  28. manamana

    Pachter guessed that? Oh good, its fall 2013 then.

    #28 2 years ago
  29. magnumfinger

    This guy is a clown. On 2010, he predicted that ‘there’s a possibility” Xbox 720 will arrive on “late 2011″. On 2011, he said the same thing for its arrival on 2012. Then, for this year, guess what? He made another phony analysis.

    Seriously, this guy is worse than a five-year old gamer thinking what’s next to video-games.

    His soul should be burn in hell.

    #29 2 years ago

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