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EA: ‘I get hurt when I see BioWare & DICE criticised’

Thursday, 23 August 2012 10:29 GMT By Dave Cook

EA’s Peter Moore has given a rare insight into his views on the gaming populace, backlash aimed squarely at him, as well as criticism hurled at BioWare and DICE. The EA COO has also spoken out regarding the company’s policy of DLC and service subscriptions like Battlefield 3′s Battlelog.

Speaking with Eurogamer, Moore discussed gamer’s dislike for DLC and subscriptions, stating that the problem is generational, rather than a poor move on the publisher’s behalf.

Moore stated, “I think people are worried gaming is going in a different direction than they were used to with N64, Sega Mega Drive, PlayStation and PlayStation 2. Everything was dominated by consoles.”

“Pretty much everything was offline,” Moore continued, “You bought the game. You sat down. And you played the game until you got tired of the game. It was all on the disc. There was nothing else coming along. Sometimes I feel sorry for gamers whose world was cartridges. I sense on the boards there is a pining for the old times.”

Moore does acknowledge and respect that view, “But you’re right. I sense that. And sometimes I feel sorry for gamers whose world was cartridges. I sense on the boards there is a pining for the old times.”

On the subject of backlash, Moore stressed that he doesn’t take personal offence to people having a go at him, but he does feel for EA’s studios, “I do get hurt for guys who work at BioWare, who work at DICE, who work at EAC in Vancouver. These are guys who love games and are brilliant at what they do, and then read this stuff and go, well, I gave everything for that, and that’s what they think about it.”

What do you think readers? Is this hate of DLC and milking content a generation problem, or is Moore shifting blame? Let us know below.

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21 Comments

  1. Edo

    It’s more of a EA:
    “Some of these people we have here are very talented and creative and the games they are working on look very good and can turn into respectful franchises….we can’t have that around here!!” :) .

    #1 3 years ago
  2. Gheritt White

    I <3 Peter Moore – one of the nicest senior execs in the industry, IMHO.

    #2 3 years ago
  3. Yoshi

    I get hurt when developers make bad games… where’s my news headline :P

    #3 3 years ago
  4. G1GAHURTZ

    Poor old guy…

    Maybe the pressure is getting to him.

    Looks like he’s started to repeat the exact same sentence twice in a row without realising it.

    #4 3 years ago
  5. KrazyKraut

    I like it when DLCs are on the disc. The way Rockstar or Gearbox (with the second Goty Edition of Borderlands) does.

    #5 3 years ago
  6. Old MacDonald

    It’s not about nostalgia, it’s about something much bigger. It’s really about what games should be; contained, meaningful experiences or long, drawn out services that ask for more and more of your time and give nothing but unlocks in return.

    #6 3 years ago
  7. Dragon246

    EA gets more hate than required. If people dont like them, dont buy their games.

    #7 3 years ago
  8. Ge0force

    Both Bioware and DICE got popular on pc, where extra content was made by the community for free thanks to modtools and editors. Online gaming was free and people were allowed to host their own dedicated servers.

    This generation, both Bioware and DICE shifted to console. Now we pay for Xbox Live, for (day 1) DLC, for premium services and for online passes. Expansions are called sequels now. And in the end, we get less content than the community provided us.

    And still, EA doesn’t understand why so many gamers want to go back to the old times. Because “everything was dominated by consoles”, right?

    #8 3 years ago
  9. Strange Sultan

    then they should do something about it. it feels like they are trying to enforce their ideals on us until we give up and accept what the give us.

    #9 3 years ago
  10. Ercarret

    I’m from “that generation” of gamers, but I don’t dislike DLC or subscriptions per se. I dislike a lot of DLC and subscriptions, due to poor quality or service. For example, I loved the Vietnam DLC/expansion for BF:BC2 but hated the DLC for the first Mass Effect. I will also probably buy Premium for BF3 as soon as I can afford, but would never have paid for a SWTOR subscription.

    Don’t get hurt. Get it right. Especially Bioware should be criticised for some of the stuff they’ve been doing lately. Not crucified, but criticised. They haven’t been up to snuff, and should be called out on that. Simple as that.

    #10 3 years ago
  11. Christopher Jack

    People just assume that because it has a giant corporation attached to a product, that it somehow devalues the time, blood, sweat, tears & efforts that the dozens- or even hundreds have put into the game.

    #11 3 years ago
  12. Gheritt White

    Christopher Jack, I couldn’t agree more.

    #12 3 years ago
  13. viralshag

    I can’t really complain about EA considering I buy most of their games. If I really had a problem I would do as #7 says and not buy their games.

    EA easily publish the majority of games I would consider as my favourites.

    #13 3 years ago
  14. ArithonUK

    I get hurt when I see DICE and EA take a dump on the once-great PC BattleField franchise with zero LAN support, nickel-and-diming with DLC and zero MOD support.
    Must be “generational” to feel that an add-on pack that would have been free DLC a few years ago now costs more than the game.
    I must be “worried that things are going the in wrong direction” when developers lie about the PC being the lead platform. Talk about next years game when this years title still has major bugs and performance issues, crippled by a shoddy web-interface that frequently drops out.
    I am certainly “pining for the old times” when developers gave a crap about their customers. Back when requests for in-game VOIP, in-game browser, Commander, LAN support, Mod support, more classes etc. might have not fallen on intentionally deaf ears.

    Like I said, hurt. And no longer your customer.

    #14 3 years ago
  15. DSB

    So where’s the sympathy for guys like George Fan?

    Does EA even have a PR department? Don’t you realize that you are never going to sell that story in a million years?

    Day 1: Fire one of the most prominent indie developers in your corporation

    Day 2: “I feel so bad for my studios”

    Seriously? Someone greenlit that?

    #15 3 years ago
  16. ManuOtaku

    I dont like most of DLC (most of the games except borderlands), and milking content like capcom do, or the always connected thing in orderto play singleplayers games, etc., but i dont blame developers for this, i blame us the gamers, they are really just reading the signs we send, we vote with our wallets, really, therefore i dont have any strong feelings agaisnt any company, maybe activision but that is mainly for kotick so is a normal thing, i suppose ;), so they are doing what they are seeing , that gamers support this type of things.

    And iam get hurt…..when i see your pictures Moore, you dont look good in pictures :)

    #16 3 years ago
  17. Len

    Lol@4 Exactly what I thought.

    #17 3 years ago
  18. traumafox

    Disapproval of DLC and the much more corporate nature of the industry nowadays is hardly “pining for the old times,” it’s trying to stop the industry from hurtling full-speed towards an untimely demise due to poor decision making and general greed. I enjoy the luxuries afforded by modern technology for gaming, but expensive DLC that is planned from the get-go and an over-saturation of samey first person shooters are really watering down the industry and reducing the overall value of video games.

    Profits come before customers these days for many companies, EA being one of the top pioneers of this business philosophy as it pertains to the gaming industry. I don’t want to go back to the old times, I want to see the future, but not the one EA has in mind.

    #18 3 years ago
  19. Joe_Gamer

    I have never bought DLC nor will I, I’m certainly not going to waste money on some fucking VIP subscription. Xbox live? I have to PAY to play multiplayer? What an insult. If you want my money make a good game(single player of course) with a decent story, put it out on pc and make it moddable. If you really hurt every time your sorry-ass studios got the criticism that they deserve you’d never leave the hospital. You think I pine for the cartridge days? Seriously out of touch with the old school gamer. We miss the days when games were made by people who loved games and had a clear vision of what they wanted. Now everything is a damn sequel to a sequel, dumbed down to a 1st grade level for the widest possible audience and focus tested into the blandest of mediocrity. I’m too old to waste my time playing boring games.

    #19 3 years ago
  20. Phoenixblight

    @19

    Games cost millions of dollars to develop when in the cartridge days they were just in their thousands. ANd people who work in the industry do love it thats why they get paid less, and get exploited. A programmer can easily make triple figure outside of the game industry but they instead go work for game studios, why is that? Because they love it and they love the challenge it brings. I know I could get paid more doing films and such but instead I work for a independent game company and just get paid a few dollars less than I did working for Cisco and I work more hours even though I am salaried. You know why I stay? Because I love the challenge and I love the people I work with.

    #20 3 years ago
  21. Henry

    People don’t hate getting more content to play.

    People hate those contents are usually overpriced.

    EA and their studios keep deliberately misinterpreting the problem so as to justify their Subscription and DLC policy. That’s why people hate EA.

    #21 3 years ago

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  • Life is Strange Episode 2 delayed

    Life is Strange Episode 2 won’t make its expected release date. The first Life is Strange episode released on January 30, and we had expected the second to follow on March 13. Square Enix has since confirmed to Destructoid that the next chapter won’t make its release date. There’s been no word of the new […]

  • Mortal Kombat X: which character will be revealed tomorrow?

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  • Halo played by Twitch is an exercise in great patience

    TwitchPlaysHalo is ridiculous. Halo: Combat Evolved is the latest game to be sucked into the “TwitchPlays” phenomenon, and the results are somewhat painful to spectate. If you’re not familiar with the setup, which debuted with TwitchPlaysPokemon, the game accepts commands from the channels’ chat stream. Although it doesn’t have the strategic RPG elements of Pokemon, […]

  • Gold Amiibo sold out, selling at five times RRP on auction sites

    Gold Mario Amiibo are expected to sell for pretty astounding profits on eBay and other auction sites. The Walmart-exclusive Gold Mario Amiibo is already completely sold out. Plenty of people managed to snaffle them to resell, though. There are now dozens of listings on eBay and other auction sites. One of the average asking prices […]

  • Canadian new game prices jump to $75

    Canadian gamers are in for an unpleasant price hike. As spotted by HardcoreGamer, the local Canadian branches of Amazon and EB Games have raised the prices of upcoming games to CAD$75. The CAD$5 increasing comes within a year of prices hitting the CAD$70 point. CAD$75 (£38/€53) currently exchanges for $60, the standard US pricing. The […]

  • New Xenoblade Chronicles X footage shows weather, day-night cycle

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  • Dead Rising: Watchtower teaser talks up the benefits of Zombrex

    Live-action Dead Rising movie Watchtower is almost upon us. Dead Rising: Watchtower will release on Crackle on March 27, and via other digital distributors thereafter. Enjoy the short teaser below, courtesy of IGN.

  • We Happy Few debut hits you upside the face with a frying pan

    Contrast developer Compulsion Games has revealed its next project – the delightfully creepy-looking We Happy Few. We Happy Few is set in “a drug-fuelled, retrofuturistic city in an alternative 1960s England” where “a plucky bunch of moderately terrible people trying to escape from a lifetime of cheerful denial”. Players are tasked with blending in with […]

  • Slender: The Arrival creeping onto PS4, Xbox One in March

    Slender: The Arrival sold like hotcakes on PC and last-gen consoles, so why not terrify yourself on PS4 and Xbox One, too? Slender: The Arrival will release on PS4 on March 24 and on Xbox One on March 25, developer Blue Isle Studios has announced, for $10. No word on that Wii U version, though. […]

  • GOG weekend sale celebrates German debut

    DRM-free games vendor GOG is celebrating its German-language launch with a tasty sale. The sale offers discounts over 25 “German favourites”. Highlights inclue 97% off Deponia, and less steep but still tasty savings on Memoria and Blackguards 1 and 2. The sale will run through March 3, and you do not have to be, speak, […]

  • Humble Weekly Bundle goes back to Japan

    The latest Humble Weekly Bundle is called Made in Japan, and I’m sure you can guess the theme. Pay what you want for Cherry Tree High Complete Pack (PC; Steam or DRM free), Fairy Bloom Freesia (PC; Steam or DRM free) and Influent + Language Pack (Linux, Mac, PC; Steam or DRM free). Pay more […]

  • Capcom “looking into” solutions to Resident Evil: Revelations PC co-op issue

    Resident Evil: Revelations 2 fans should sit tight for a bit, as Capcom is working on some sort of solution to the co-op issue. Resident Evil: Revelations 2 doesn’t have local co-op on PC and fans are pretty mad about that, as it was advertised ahead of release as a key feature. Although Capcom has […]

  • The games industry is disruption, says Assassin’s Creed producer

    Former Assassin’s Creed producer Jade Raymond has characterised the games industry as one long series of upsets. The games industry changes all the time, and that’s one of its best qualities, Raymond said. The ex-Ubisoft leader told Polygon that the reason seh got into games in the first place was because it “is this undefined […]

  • GTA 5 made $31 million in digital revenue in January

    GTA 5 is the highest-grossing title at the moment in terms of digital revenue, and the PSN is absolutely minting it. Digital games industry analyst Superdata has extended its scope to include console games, which means we suddenly have access to a whole bunch of data we’ve only been able to guess at, or extrapolate […]

  • Destiny: Inferno playlists debut next week

    Destiny PvP will shake things up next week with a new way to slaughter your mates in the Crucible. Destiny is already a skilled PvP game, but the new Inferno playlists will turn things up a notch with a focus on “basic gunplay”. The first of these, Inferno Control, kicks off on March 3 and […]

  • First-person camera coming to Guild Wars 2 next month

    ArenNet has announced its adding nonrestrictive first-person view to Guild Wars 2. Here’s what top expect come March 10: First-person Camera: Zooming in all the way will allow players to experience a first-person view. First-person mode is available while standing in place, walking, running, jumping, playing PvP and just about anything else. There aren’t any […]

  • Shadowrun Online signs on with Nordic

    Shadowrun Online has been given a nice little boost thanks to a distribution deal with Nordic Games. Shadowrun Online is a new team tactical RPG from Cliffhanger Productions. Although it’s already available through Steam Early Access, Nordic has agreed to distribute the finished version, which is due on Linux, Mac and PC in the second […]

  • Final Fantasy 15 is 60% finished, game world ten times the size of demo

    Final Fantasy 15 is 60% finished, according to director Hajime Tabata. Speaking with IGN, Tabata said development will kick into high gear once the Episode Duscae demo is released. “It’s about 60% now. People may look at that and say ‘well, you’ve only done five more percent!’ [since 55% in September] but it’s actually a […]

  • Destiny: you don’t need to visit the tower to access your vault

    Destiny players, you asked for it and Bungie has delivered it: you can now swap items in and out of the vault using the companion app. “Destiny needs more vault space” you cry – and yes, this is true. But while we all struggle with the limitations imposed on us by Bungie, we face all […]

  • Mortal Kombat X will contain over 100 Brutalities

    During the Mortal Kombat X stream today, NetherRealm Studios revealed Brutalities are back for the game, and stated there will be over 100 to pull off. You won’t gain any extra experience for being overly cruel with your painful moves, but you will at least get to laugh at some and “cringe” at others, according […]

  • Numenera: Strand is a film based on the game up on Kickstarter

    Numenera, the 2012 Kickstarter success and foundation for Torment: Tides of Numenera, could become a film if the Kickstarter for the movie is successful. With five days left, Monte Cook Games and Swedish film company Valdes/Eriksdotter needs £22,542 to reach its goal. Titled Numenera: Strand, it tells the tale of a drifter who “roams a […]

  • Gran Turismo 6 update adds MINI Clubman Vision, more

    A Mini Cooper has invaded Gran Turismo 6 via a new update. The Mid-Field Raceway track has also been added, and its a new and improved version of the original track from previous Gran Turismos. The new B-Spec Mode feature has also been added which allows the AI driver to race on your behalf. Additional […]

  • Nintendo is bringing New 3DS Xl and some playable titles to PAX East

    Nintendo is bringing New 3DS Xl and Splatoon with it to PAX East next month. The E3 2014 build of the game lets eight players transform into squids in a race for “splattered-paint dominance.” Code Name: S.T.E.A.M. will also be playable and featured in stage presentations at the Nintendo booth. Upcoming or newly released Nintendo […]

  • Battlefield Hardline Premium information seems to have slipped out early

    Battlefield Hardline Premium perks have apparently leaked a bit early, according to a post on Reddit. Over on the Hardline subreddit is an image which was take at a GameStop location, noting two week early access to content additional Battlepacks and more. Here’s the rundown: Four expansions Two weeks early access 12 additional Battlepacks Exclusive […]

  • Final Fantasy: Record Keeper arrives in the US this spring

    Final Fantasy: Record Keeper will be released in the US on iOS and Android this spring, DeNA and Square Enix today. The mobile titles allows players to “relive favorite moments” across all Final Fantasy installments and build a team of classic characters from across the entire franchise. If you sign up for email updates, you […]

  • Battlefield Hardline now available for pre-order, pre-download on Xbox One

    Battlefield Hardline is now available for pre-order and pre-download on Xbox One. You can pre-order it now from the Xbox Store and once you have paid for it, you can start your pre-download. Battlefield Hardline releases on March 17, and will be made available to pre-downloaders come 12.01am EDT. Check pricing and availability for your […]

  • Dying Light interactive video allows you switch between day and night

    A new video for Dying Light has been released, which allows you to hit the Z key to change between day and night. Titles Life and Death in the Quarantine Zone, the interactive story video showcases how the game changes between day and night. Daytime and nighttime are shown side-by-side but the z key allows […]

  • Havoc DLC for Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare out on PS3, PS4; PC delayed

    The Havoc DLC for Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare is now available for PlayStation 3 and PS4. Havoc contains the four multiplayer maps Core, Drift, Sideshow, and Urban along with the AE4 directed energy assault rifle, its custom variant, and the Exo Zombies cooperative mode. You can purchase the DLC separately or pick up the […]

  • Here’s a teaser for Resident Evil Revelations 2: Episode 2

    A teaser video for the second episode of Resident Evil Revelations 2 is available, so if you’ve yet to play the first episode, you may want to skip this. Resident Evil Revelations 2′s first episode is out now. Thanks, GamesHQMedia.

  • North American eShop update is full of Donkey Kong games

    Nintendo has updated the North American end of the eShop with Titan Attacks, Donkey Kong Land, Donkey Kong Country and more. eShop on 3DS Ironfall Invasion Titan Attacks! Donkey Kong Land – Virtual Console Donkey Kong Land 2 – Virtual Console Donkey Kong Land 3 – Virtual Console Luv Me Buddies Wonderland Around the World […]

  • Venture into the Valley of the Yetis next week in Far Cry 4

    The next batch of Far Cry 4 DLC, Valley of the Yetis, releases in March and Ajay Ghale will be tasked with surviving violent cultists and the mythical Yeti. Apparently the cult is looking for a secret hidden in the valley, and Ajay has discovered their motives. The DLC features co-op with a friend taking […]