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Cage – industry suffering from “Peter Pan syndrome,” needs to “grow up”

Thursday, 16 August 2012 19:48 GMT By Stephany Nunneley

David Cage wants the games industry to “grow up” and start developing mature title which aren’t shooters.

Speaking in an interview with Gamasutra during gamescom, Cage said he believes the industry is suffering from a case of “Peter Pan syndrome.”

“I think we should have more courage in our industry and take more risks, because I think this is what the industry needs now,” he said. “I mean, how many first person shooters can you make? How many monsters/aliens/zombies can you kill in games? There’s a moment where we need to grow up. We need to grow up.

“I often think that the industry suffers of the Peter Pan syndrome. It’s the fact that we don’t want to grow up, so we stay kids. But there is a moment where you need to grow up as an industry. And you cannot keep up with the Peter Pan syndrome. You need to grow. And I think this is the right time.”

Beyond: Two Souls is the latest from Cage’s firm Quantic Dream, and it’s slated for release on PS3 with a date still unconfirmed.

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28 Comments

  1. Razor

    “Related posts

    David Cage wants the game industry to grow up”

    He must still be spinning at 45rpm.

    #1 3 years ago
  2. OrbitMonkey

    You might as well ask for the porn industry to stop being so sleazy. The content is dictated by the audience.

    #2 3 years ago
  3. ManuOtaku

    “I often think that the industry suffers of the Peter Pan syndrome. It’s the fact that we don’t want to grow up, so we stay kids. But there is a moment where you need to grow up as an industry. And you cannot keep up with the Peter Pan syndrome. You need to grow. And I think this is the right time.”
    I almost agree completly if it isnt due the fact that gamers have their inner kids pretty much alive, not that they arent inmature, is that they see things like videogames, cartoons and animes ,like we were little kids IMHO, and for that it will be hard to take that out of the industry, because thats what the main target is, i dont mind killing zombies multiple times if the gameplay, setting and story are different, the same from FPS as long as they add something new, like xotic, zeno clash, bulletstorm, borderladns, i dont have a qualm, because they are very different IMHO, But i understand where he is coming from, i think he means having a more cinematic mature feel into the games and broken that barrier, which is also good, they can co-exist together, but in the end we are like little kids while we play our precious hobby, and if you ask me thats great, we are not getting old in our insde.

    #3 3 years ago
  4. LuLshuck

    How about you do your own shit and let others do there

    #4 3 years ago
  5. Froseidon

    This sounds like he is trying to advertise his own game but in a more subtle way.

    #5 3 years ago
  6. OlderGamer

    I think it will happen as we move forward. Every year the average age of gamers gets a tad older. So do many of the people making the games. I think there will always be room for less mature “Mature” rated games. But there is likly going to be a growing void for games for actual mature gamers.

    #6 3 years ago
  7. M. K.

    Everytime this guy opens his mouth, I can exactly tell, what’s he’s trying to say…

    “Every year the average age of gamers gets a tad older.”

    No not really, the exact opposite is the case ;)

    #7 3 years ago
  8. DSB

    How many quicktime events can you make?

    #8 3 years ago
  9. OlderGamer

    How do you figure M.K.?

    As guys like us age, we don’t stop playing. Trust me, I am not going anywhere. And at some of the ages of readers/posters we are pioneers. Last I knew the average age was 30yrs old.The youngest gamers won’t get any younger, but the oldest ones will get older every year.

    #9 3 years ago
  10. polygem

    maths

    #10 3 years ago
  11. ManuOtaku

    #9 yeah my next gen gamer tag-psn id, wii U account will be oldermanuotaku T_T

    #11 3 years ago
  12. monkeygourmet

    Man pitching new ‘adult exclusive’ video game telling everyone gaming needs too ‘grow up’…?!

    Stop the presses! :)

    Seriously I’m fed up of this awful bullshit style of promoting a game. I enjoyed heavy rain, and I’m sure I’ll enjoy this, but as Dave Cook stated earlier: the gameplay section is basically Ghost Trick on the DS…

    Same as LA Noire was basically Pheonix Wright…

    The sooner Cage admits he’s creating interactive movies the better. It’s a huge step up from the Mega CD games and 7th Ghost, but that’s effectively what they are…

    Not knocking them, but spouting this kind of shite to try and drum up some media interest in your new movie (sorry game), just comes across as a dick manoeuvre and an insult to the huge amount of ‘adult’ games out there if you actually bother looking…

    What he is doing is putting his game on a huge block, which will no doubt be knocked down a peg or two on launch. He’s becoming the new Molyneux…

    Also, saying we need new styles of play is a bit of a piss take since his last 3 games have had very similar themes running through them… This also looks to follow suit…

    #12 3 years ago
  13. OlderGamer

    lol @ Manu ;)

    #13 3 years ago
  14. Hybridpsycho

    Go play The Witcher 2.

    I’m not sure where this guys has been getting his games, but not all games on the market are Call of Duty or Battlefield…

    Compared to what other games there are out there that are really great, I’d say that the generic FPS games are quite a small percentage of what there actually is on the market.
    These are just some of the good games that came to mind that are not your generic shooter and still mature.
    Dragon’s Dogma
    Dark Souls
    Demon’s Souls
    Darksiders 1 &2
    God of War 1,2 & 3
    Assassins Creed 1 & 2
    Enslaved
    Skyrim
    Batman Arkham Asylum / City
    Mirror’s Edge
    Dead Space 1 & 2
    Saints Row 2 & 3
    Dragon Age: Origins (go to hell Dragon Age 2)
    Infamous 1 & 2
    Metal Gear Solid 4
    Mortal Kombat
    Prototype (haven’t played second game)

    Not gonna make a list of ALL The great games that are not FPS, in fact even though I love FPS games they’re far from as many as any other type of game I play.
    Just because CoD and Battlefield has alot of players doesn’t mean they’re the only games out there.

    #14 3 years ago
  15. Kuwabara

    He’s right. People need to stop playing that shit call of duty and developers should ease on fricking releasing generic shooters every year or two. So many greater titles are selling poorly and aren’t getting sequels because of the idiots who only play shooters.

    #15 3 years ago
  16. Phoenixblight

    @16

    Does it ever come to your mind that the people that buy COD just play COD and aren’t exactly willing to play anything else? Publisher are only trying to grab some of that market by making their FPS. It never works because why buy X game when COD does it better.

    #16 3 years ago
  17. Ireland Michael

    >says games need to be more risky and mature
    >can’t write a decent story.

    #17 3 years ago
  18. Telepathic.Geometry

    @15: I don’t think that many games in that list are mature in the proper sense. Of them all, I would say only: Demon’s Souls, Enslaved, Mirror’s Edge, Dead Space 1 and Metal Gear Solid 4 felt mature to me. And despite never having played The Witcher II, it looks mature to me.

    I mean mature in the sense that it’s built with mature adults in mind, not just people who are adults. The Last of Us looks like it’ll measure up too…

    #18 3 years ago
  19. Giskard

    To be fair, most entertainment media suffer from this. The most popular movies are blockbuster action films. The most popular books are mostly detective stories and / or romances.

    It’s a simple thing to get right, and make it somewhat relateable, and people buy it.

    Why should the game industry charge ahead to the greater unknown when more traditional media has managed fine without it? I don’t see movie buffs asking for “more serious films”. They get their share of deep indie love, and then leave the blockbusters well alone.

    There have also been some very good, mature games coming out. The Witcher instantly springs to mind. Walking Dead, to some extent, was quite mature, as it wasn’t a mindless zombie killing simulator.

    As much as I like Cage’s games, he just comes off as a major douche here. There’s no real way around it.

    #19 3 years ago
  20. Ireland Michael

    @19 Mirror’s Edge is a great gsme, but it’s world is so lacking in actual story and depth that it’s impossible to gleam any sense of maturity out of it. Metal Gear Solid is crash, juvenile and pretentious, and the furthest thing from mature that you can get.

    Dead Space definitely sits in the mature category, for obvious reasons. Demon’s Soul has a very serious and mature style about it too. I would probably put Enslaved on the list as well.

    Everything else on that is either immature or obnoxiously violent.

    @20 The indie movies are the “more serious films”. Indie and small studio games tend to fill that same niche for gaming, when it comes to keeping creativity alive in our medium.

    #20 3 years ago
  21. Omelette

    @5 Totally agree. We should not forget this was said in an interview. He’s simply trying to sell his product.

    #21 3 years ago
  22. Telepathic.Geometry

    @Ireland Michael: Yeah, if I thought about it a bit longer, I’m sure I’d come up with a better list. Of course, it’s subjective too…

    #22 3 years ago
  23. Docker Al

    Who does this prick think he is? I like shooters.Don’t try and tell me what I should like.

    #23 3 years ago
  24. Telepathic.Geometry

    Nobody’s telling you anything of the kind. Try reading the article…

    #24 3 years ago
  25. pleasant_cabbage

    I agree with Cage 100% We really do need to bring gaming into a more mature space. I propose that ultra-classy sex minigames be included in the majority of games, with not-at-all creepy shower scenes in the rest. Take that Peter Pan.

    #25 3 years ago
  26. Dragon246

    @Manu,
    +1000000000!!!!

    #26 3 years ago
  27. Da Man

    As an infantine child who read way too many bs books I play testosterone fuelled shooters to stimulate my power fantasies, as opposed to experiencing mature adult art with clever mini games and realistic portrayal of humans.

    I’m too stupid to realize that I ‘m not helping modern artists to leverage this amazing medium.

    #27 3 years ago
  28. Digital Bamboo

    What does it mean to “grow up” exactly?

    If it’s becoming an adult, and therefore more mature, then how would that translate over to the games industry?

    I honestly have no idea. The only examples I can think of would result in either very boring, (Fiscal Responsibility 2012)or very depressing (Downfall: The Game) experiences. Are games not meant to be fun?

    If the future of video games involves Mario settling down, reconciling with his weirdo cousin, & them building a deck together out behind the Mushroom Castle, then I don’t want to have anything to do with it.

    #28 3 years ago

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  • Nintendo US eShop update: Puzzle & Dragons Super Mario demo, Paper Mario, more

    Nintendo has updated the North American end of the eShop with a demo of Puzzle & Dragons Super Mario Bros. Edition, Paper Mario on Virtual Console, and amiibo Tap. The full update is below. eShop update amiibo Tap – free – Wii U Star Wars Pinball DLC – Wii U Paper Mario – Wii U […]

  • Deus Ex: Mankind Divided PC port handed off to Nixxes

    The PC port of the new Deus Ex has been handed over to Netherlands based studio, Nixxes software. After the initial reveal trailer at the beginning of April, we’ve only had a few morsels in the way of additional news. The most intriguing tidbit to date has got to be the fact that you’ll be […]

  • First-ever PC Gaming Show to take place at E3 2015 in June

    PC gaming will finally have its very own E3 press conference this year, thanks to PC Gamer and AMD. The PC Gaming Show will take place on June 16 at the Belasco Theater in Los Angeles and it will be livestreamed on Twitch. PC Gamer said speakers at the presentation will include representatives from Blizzard, […]

  • Majora’s Mask light available now on Club Nintendo for 6000 stars

    Club Nintendo shuts up shop on September 30 and members are being encouraged to spend accumulated stars before then. And what better to spend them on, than this adorable Majora’s Mask light? If you’re a member based in Europe you can nab it for 6000 stars. If you’re in Australia or New Zealand, it’ll only […]

  • Unity support announced for HoloLens, will work with Windows universal apps

    Microsoft is partnering with game engine developers Unity in order to make HoloLens compatible with apps and games which use the cross-platform engine. The partnership was announced yesterday during its Build Developer Conference. Universal apps for Windows 10 systems will also be available on Xbox One later this year, suggesting possible HoloLens functionality with the […]

  • Splatoon Nintendo Direct airs Thursday, May 7

    A Nintendo Direct focused on Splatoon, the Wii U multiplayer title, on May 7. It will kick off at 7am PDT/10am EDT/3pm UK and it can be watched via the Nintendo Direct website. You can also have a look at the game through Nintendo’s Twitch channel. The last game-specific presentation took place last week and […]

  • GTA 5 PC: clean up the streets as a member of the San Andreas PD with this new mod

    Remember the awesome mods for GTA 4 and San Andreas that let you run amok online as a member of the po-po? Well, dust off your taser and load up your gun, because it’s coming to GTA 5. The new mod for GTA 5 is currently in alpha and can be downloaded at palmbeachgames.com. You […]

  • Indie shoot ‘em up Project Root comes to Xbox One, PS4 and PSVita

    Project Root is a self-proclaimed rejig of the shoot ‘em up genre that was released on PC last year, and it’s finally coming to consoles. Combining free-roaming elements with the usual business of shooting things, Project Root was released this week for Xbox One, PS4 and the PSVita.

  • You can now bet on eSports online, starting with League of Legends

    If you’re getting bored with sticking a pony on the races, you can expand your gambling horizons at Unikrn where you can watch esports streams and get a little action on the side. The new platform was set up by Rahul Sood – previously the general manager of Microsoft Ventures. At the moment, customers are […]

  • Has Watch Dogs 2 been leaked?

    Ubisoft employee, Julien Risse, may have inadvertently confirmed Watch Dogs 2, thanks to his online CV over at LinkedIn. Videogamer.com spotted the slip up, in which Risse lists Watch Dogs, the DLC Bad Blood, and Watch Dogs 2 on his profile. Creative Director Jonathan Morin has already talked about his ideas for improvements for the […]

  • GTA 5′s Trevor makes his Jackass debut, complete with leopard-print knickers

    YouTuber Abstract Mode has shared his vision of what Trevor Philips’ life might have been like, had he not been completely batshit crazy. Watch Trevor get mauled, run over, and hit by a train, before taking a majestic swan-dive into someone else’s pool at the climax. Thanks, Kotaku.

  • Call of Duty: Black Ops 3 season pass will cost you £35

    Call of Duty: Black Ops 3 isn’t released until November 6, but you can already hand over your cash for the Season Pass. The Season Pass is available for pre-purchase on Steam for £34.99, and will cover four DLC packs – although the details we have on the content are limited to ‘exciting’ at this […]

  • GTA Online’s cheating assholes are no match for this player’s vengeance

    Think you’re smart for using invisibility and infinite ammo glitches? You need to be taught a lesson, sucker. You can have all the hacks you want but if your GTA Online game is weak, you’ll still get your ass handed to you. As this fool discovered when attempting to hassle another player. There’s a fair […]

  • PS4 sales help Sony’s games division swing to profit

    Sony’s PlayStation business has made an operating profit of 48.1 billion yen ($404m / £261.5m) in the past 12 months. That’s thanks to stellar sales of the PlayStation 4 and PS Plus, even as sales of the PS3 have stalled and the company wrote off costs for the PSTV and PS Vita. The profit puts […]

  • New patch for Dirt Rally gives co-driver’s attitude a tune-up

    Dirt Rally gets a new patch three days after release on Steam. On Monday, we reported that the newest Dirt game has popped up on Steam’s Early Access and is available to pick up for £24.99, as well as giving you an eyeful of tasty screenshots. The patch – released yesterday – fixes some issues […]

  • New The Witcher 3 screenshots show combat, exploration and general carousing

    New screenshots released on the official facebook page for The Witcher 3 show Geralt annihilating a winged beast, out and about in the world exploring, and living the life of Reily amidst a bustling feast. We were already treated to some glorious screenshots a few days ago, but these new ones are in-game and give […]

  • Destiny: 14 things you might have missed during House of Wolves intel drops

    Destiny: House of Wolves does a great deal more than just slap some new content on the existing game structure. House of Wolves changes Destiny in a lot of interesting and very welcome ways. Bungie showed off many of these changes in its livestream, and let both me and Arekkz come and have a look […]

  • Scratch that cyberpunk itch with Technobabylon on May 21 – new trailer

    Technobabylon more like Wrecked-yo-babbling with my smooth flow about how good Wadjet Eye games are. I don’t know y’all, it’s clock off time and everything feels like a reach. Wadjet Eye makes pretty good adventure games – award winning, in fact. The latest project to spring forth from the benevolent, sheltering hand of the label […]

  • Skullgirls 2nd Encore brings exclusive new features to PS4, Vita in northern summer

    Skullgirls, the little indie fighter that could, is getting another crack at it. Skullgirls 2nd Encore is the second re-release of the one-time troubled 2D versus fighter from lab Zero Games. Having survived the shut down of its developer and collapse of its publishing contrast, Skullgirls re-emerged as Skullgirls: Encore, adding in a ton of […]

  • Danganronpa series generates “impressive” sales for Vita exclusive

    Danganronpa is selling quite nicely, thank you, says NIS America. Danganronpa is a series of murder mystery visual novel puzzlers in a similar vein to games like 999. Two of these have been released for Vita in the west – Trigger Happy Havoc and Goodbye Despair. Speaking to MCV, NIS America CEO and president Takuro […]

  • I have no idea what is going on in J-Stars Victory VS+ but I kind of like it

    In this J-Stars Victory VS+ trailer, we see – uhh. Well. We certainly see some things. Look y’all, I was a massive weaboo in high school, but that was back in the dark ages when we had to take out Manga Entertainment VHS tapes from dingy little specialist rental joints that were literally underground, and […]

  • Please just watch this terrific trailer for Toren

    Toren is the kind of game I dream about when I drift off to sleep at night. This indie puzzle adventure strikes a spark in my little soul in the same way as Ico and Tequila Works’ Rime do. Mysterious, almost ethereal fantasy setting – check. Chance to actually walk around in that setting – […]

  • Play classic MS-DOS games on your own tweets

    In today’s episode of “what will they think of next”, someone’s figured out how to post playable versions of classic games in tweets. For some time now, Twitter has allowed you to embed various forms of media in tweets, most noticeably YouTube videos, simply by pasting a URL into the compose field. Turns out this […]

  • VR: Unreal Engine to add HTC Vive support

    The biggest digital PC game distributor and the most popular game development engine have both backed VR. It’s going to happen. An upcoming Unreal Engine 4 update will expand the development suite’s support to the HTC Vive, Valve’s VR headset. In this glorious new future where work on one of the most important engines in […]

  • WWE 2K15 PC supports modding

    WWE 2K15 may be the series’ PC debut, but it’s already getting into the spirit of the platform. WWE 2K15 does indeed support mods on PC, 2K’s Marcus Stephenson has confirmed. @ElementGamesTV you can. Now buy. — Marcus Stephenson (@stephensonmc) April 28, 2015 As Destructoid points out, this opens the door to all sorts of […]

  • Overkill’s The Walking Dead coming to PC, PS4 and Xbox One in 2016

    Overkill’s The Walking Dead is one step closer to your grasping little paws. Overkill’s The Walking Dead will be published by 505 Games, Overkill parent Starbreeze has announced. 505 also published Payday 2, Overkill’s previous title, so the two companies have established a working relationship. In a press release, the publisher said the co-op title […]

  • Call of Duty: Black Ops 3 pre-orders net Advanced Warfare DLC

    Buy Call of Duty: Black Ops 3 for later, enjoy bonus Advanced Warfare content now. Blacks Ops 3 is being supported by a rather cunning pre-order incentive even more likely to get you to lay your cash down sooner than you might otherwise. Gamespot reports a Black Ops 3 pre-order will receive a couple of […]

  • Steam Game Ban system lets developers determine who to block

    Steam users can now be blocked from individual games by their developers. Steam has always supported multiplayer bans for disruptive users, but a newly-implemented system allows developers to ban users from individual games using their own anti-cheat systems. Game Bans are enforced by Valve, but are enacted at the developer’s request and discretion. This change […]

  • Far Cry 4 devs matching Red Cross donations up to $100K to aid Nepal earthquake victims

    Far Cry 4 developer Ubisoft Montreal will match any pledges made to The Red Cross up to $100,000 to aid Nepal after the 7.8 earthquake struck the area in and around Kathmandu in Nepal. According to Ubisoft: “Having spent the last few years working on Far Cry 4, a game heavily inspired by Nepal and […]

  • Tales of Zestiria retail listing notes September release date, PS4 version

    Tales of Zestiria is coming west in northern autumn, and while it’s confirmed as a PlayStation 3 release, a Dutch retailer has it listed as coming to PS4 as well. Of course, listing it for PS4 could also be a typo, not that I would personally know about that sort of thing, really. However, according […]

  • Official mod tools for Total War: Attila are now available

    Official mod tools for Total War: Attila are now available and you can grab the new Assembly Kit as a beta through the tools menu via your Steam library. The Creative Assembly said the tools will be “immediately familiar” to modders of Rome 2 and Shogun 2, but the new version is the most “extensive” […]

  • How to get level 34 Ascended Raid gear in Destiny: House of Wolves

    Watch: two videos showing you how to get level 34 raid gear and a shopping list of what you need. One of the big changes that House of Wolves is bringing to Destiny is the chance to upgrade your weapons and gear to level 34. In these videos Arekkz Gaming shows you how to use […]

  • Destiny: House of Wolves puts PvP back in the spotlight

    Destiny PvP players, your time has come to shine. New Crucible maps. New Crucible rewards. And the glorious wonder of Elimination mode. Destiny: House of Wolves puts PvP front and centre. When Destiny was first detailed, one of the things Bungie stressed was that there’d be something for everyone. If you wanted to play solo […]

  • Destiny: Trials of Osiris – everything you need to know in one video

    The Destiny: House of Wolves embargo has lifted, and with so much information floating around pertaining to Trials of Osiris, it can be overwhelming. Thankfully, Arekkz Gaming tells you everything you need to know in one video. In the video above you will be informed of how the 3v3 Team Deathmatch event works, how you […]

  • Destiny: House of Wolves – watch a Trials of Osiris match from start to finish

    With the release of Destiny: House of Wolves looming, players will soon be able to participate in the new 3v3 Team Deathmatch event in The Crucible, Trials of Osiris. Below is a video featuring an uncut, complete match from start to finish. In the video, Arekkz Gaming gives you a breakdown of the mode and […]

  • Wolfenstein: The Old Blood – here’s what your PC needs in order to run it

    Wolfenstein: The Old Blood is out next week, and Bethesda has today released the PC specs for the standalone title. MachineGames has made some tweaks to the system requirements and have included both minimum and recommended specifications. Minimum OS: 64-bit Windows 7/Windows 8 Processor: Intel Core i5-2500 @ 3.3 GHz / AMD FX-8320 @ 3.5 […]

  • Destiny: Trials of Osiris – watch the livestream reveal right here

    Bungie will be showing off Destiny’s new 3v3 Team Deatmatch Trials of Osiris today, and you can watch the Twitch stream right here if you like. It kicks off at 11am PDT/2pm EDT and will feature community manager Deej and design leads Lars Bakken and Derek Carroll. More will be revealed on House of Wolves […]

  • May Xbox Games with Gold: Mafia 2, CastleStorm: Definitive Edition, F1 2013

    Microsoft has announced the free games Gold members will be able to pick up through Xbox Live. On Xbox One, Gold users can download CastleStorm: Definitive Edition for the month,and Pool Nation FX is being offered for an additional month. Starting May 1, Xbox 360 Gold members can download Mafia 2 through May 15, and […]