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Cage – industry suffering from “Peter Pan syndrome,” needs to “grow up”

Thursday, 16th August 2012 19:48 GMT By Stephany Nunneley

David Cage wants the games industry to “grow up” and start developing mature title which aren’t shooters.

Speaking in an interview with Gamasutra during gamescom, Cage said he believes the industry is suffering from a case of “Peter Pan syndrome.”

“I think we should have more courage in our industry and take more risks, because I think this is what the industry needs now,” he said. “I mean, how many first person shooters can you make? How many monsters/aliens/zombies can you kill in games? There’s a moment where we need to grow up. We need to grow up.

“I often think that the industry suffers of the Peter Pan syndrome. It’s the fact that we don’t want to grow up, so we stay kids. But there is a moment where you need to grow up as an industry. And you cannot keep up with the Peter Pan syndrome. You need to grow. And I think this is the right time.”

Beyond: Two Souls is the latest from Cage’s firm Quantic Dream, and it’s slated for release on PS3 with a date still unconfirmed.

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  1. Razor

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    David Cage wants the game industry to grow up”

    He must still be spinning at 45rpm.

    #1 2 years ago
  2. OrbitMonkey

    You might as well ask for the porn industry to stop being so sleazy. The content is dictated by the audience.

    #2 2 years ago
  3. ManuOtaku

    “I often think that the industry suffers of the Peter Pan syndrome. It’s the fact that we don’t want to grow up, so we stay kids. But there is a moment where you need to grow up as an industry. And you cannot keep up with the Peter Pan syndrome. You need to grow. And I think this is the right time.”
    I almost agree completly if it isnt due the fact that gamers have their inner kids pretty much alive, not that they arent inmature, is that they see things like videogames, cartoons and animes ,like we were little kids IMHO, and for that it will be hard to take that out of the industry, because thats what the main target is, i dont mind killing zombies multiple times if the gameplay, setting and story are different, the same from FPS as long as they add something new, like xotic, zeno clash, bulletstorm, borderladns, i dont have a qualm, because they are very different IMHO, But i understand where he is coming from, i think he means having a more cinematic mature feel into the games and broken that barrier, which is also good, they can co-exist together, but in the end we are like little kids while we play our precious hobby, and if you ask me thats great, we are not getting old in our insde.

    #3 2 years ago
  4. LuLshuck

    How about you do your own shit and let others do there

    #4 2 years ago
  5. Froseidon

    This sounds like he is trying to advertise his own game but in a more subtle way.

    #5 2 years ago
  6. OlderGamer

    I think it will happen as we move forward. Every year the average age of gamers gets a tad older. So do many of the people making the games. I think there will always be room for less mature “Mature” rated games. But there is likly going to be a growing void for games for actual mature gamers.

    #6 2 years ago
  7. M. K.

    Everytime this guy opens his mouth, I can exactly tell, what’s he’s trying to say…

    “Every year the average age of gamers gets a tad older.”

    No not really, the exact opposite is the case ;)

    #7 2 years ago
  8. DSB

    How many quicktime events can you make?

    #8 2 years ago
  9. OlderGamer

    How do you figure M.K.?

    As guys like us age, we don’t stop playing. Trust me, I am not going anywhere. And at some of the ages of readers/posters we are pioneers. Last I knew the average age was 30yrs old.The youngest gamers won’t get any younger, but the oldest ones will get older every year.

    #9 2 years ago
  10. polygem

    maths

    #10 2 years ago
  11. ManuOtaku

    #9 yeah my next gen gamer tag-psn id, wii U account will be oldermanuotaku T_T

    #11 2 years ago
  12. monkeygourmet

    Man pitching new ‘adult exclusive’ video game telling everyone gaming needs too ‘grow up’…?!

    Stop the presses! :)

    Seriously I’m fed up of this awful bullshit style of promoting a game. I enjoyed heavy rain, and I’m sure I’ll enjoy this, but as Dave Cook stated earlier: the gameplay section is basically Ghost Trick on the DS…

    Same as LA Noire was basically Pheonix Wright…

    The sooner Cage admits he’s creating interactive movies the better. It’s a huge step up from the Mega CD games and 7th Ghost, but that’s effectively what they are…

    Not knocking them, but spouting this kind of shite to try and drum up some media interest in your new movie (sorry game), just comes across as a dick manoeuvre and an insult to the huge amount of ‘adult’ games out there if you actually bother looking…

    What he is doing is putting his game on a huge block, which will no doubt be knocked down a peg or two on launch. He’s becoming the new Molyneux…

    Also, saying we need new styles of play is a bit of a piss take since his last 3 games have had very similar themes running through them… This also looks to follow suit…

    #12 2 years ago
  13. OlderGamer

    lol @ Manu ;)

    #13 2 years ago
  14. Hybridpsycho

    Go play The Witcher 2.

    I’m not sure where this guys has been getting his games, but not all games on the market are Call of Duty or Battlefield…

    Compared to what other games there are out there that are really great, I’d say that the generic FPS games are quite a small percentage of what there actually is on the market.
    These are just some of the good games that came to mind that are not your generic shooter and still mature.
    Dragon’s Dogma
    Dark Souls
    Demon’s Souls
    Darksiders 1 &2
    God of War 1,2 & 3
    Assassins Creed 1 & 2
    Enslaved
    Skyrim
    Batman Arkham Asylum / City
    Mirror’s Edge
    Dead Space 1 & 2
    Saints Row 2 & 3
    Dragon Age: Origins (go to hell Dragon Age 2)
    Infamous 1 & 2
    Metal Gear Solid 4
    Mortal Kombat
    Prototype (haven’t played second game)

    Not gonna make a list of ALL The great games that are not FPS, in fact even though I love FPS games they’re far from as many as any other type of game I play.
    Just because CoD and Battlefield has alot of players doesn’t mean they’re the only games out there.

    #14 2 years ago
  15. Kuwabara

    He’s right. People need to stop playing that shit call of duty and developers should ease on fricking releasing generic shooters every year or two. So many greater titles are selling poorly and aren’t getting sequels because of the idiots who only play shooters.

    #15 2 years ago
  16. Phoenixblight

    @16

    Does it ever come to your mind that the people that buy COD just play COD and aren’t exactly willing to play anything else? Publisher are only trying to grab some of that market by making their FPS. It never works because why buy X game when COD does it better.

    #16 2 years ago
  17. Ireland Michael

    >says games need to be more risky and mature
    >can’t write a decent story.

    #17 2 years ago
  18. Telepathic.Geometry

    @15: I don’t think that many games in that list are mature in the proper sense. Of them all, I would say only: Demon’s Souls, Enslaved, Mirror’s Edge, Dead Space 1 and Metal Gear Solid 4 felt mature to me. And despite never having played The Witcher II, it looks mature to me.

    I mean mature in the sense that it’s built with mature adults in mind, not just people who are adults. The Last of Us looks like it’ll measure up too…

    #18 2 years ago
  19. Giskard

    To be fair, most entertainment media suffer from this. The most popular movies are blockbuster action films. The most popular books are mostly detective stories and / or romances.

    It’s a simple thing to get right, and make it somewhat relateable, and people buy it.

    Why should the game industry charge ahead to the greater unknown when more traditional media has managed fine without it? I don’t see movie buffs asking for “more serious films”. They get their share of deep indie love, and then leave the blockbusters well alone.

    There have also been some very good, mature games coming out. The Witcher instantly springs to mind. Walking Dead, to some extent, was quite mature, as it wasn’t a mindless zombie killing simulator.

    As much as I like Cage’s games, he just comes off as a major douche here. There’s no real way around it.

    #19 2 years ago
  20. Ireland Michael

    @19 Mirror’s Edge is a great gsme, but it’s world is so lacking in actual story and depth that it’s impossible to gleam any sense of maturity out of it. Metal Gear Solid is crash, juvenile and pretentious, and the furthest thing from mature that you can get.

    Dead Space definitely sits in the mature category, for obvious reasons. Demon’s Soul has a very serious and mature style about it too. I would probably put Enslaved on the list as well.

    Everything else on that is either immature or obnoxiously violent.

    @20 The indie movies are the “more serious films”. Indie and small studio games tend to fill that same niche for gaming, when it comes to keeping creativity alive in our medium.

    #20 2 years ago
  21. Omelette

    @5 Totally agree. We should not forget this was said in an interview. He’s simply trying to sell his product.

    #21 2 years ago
  22. Telepathic.Geometry

    @Ireland Michael: Yeah, if I thought about it a bit longer, I’m sure I’d come up with a better list. Of course, it’s subjective too…

    #22 2 years ago
  23. Docker Al

    Who does this prick think he is? I like shooters.Don’t try and tell me what I should like.

    #23 2 years ago
  24. Telepathic.Geometry

    Nobody’s telling you anything of the kind. Try reading the article…

    #24 2 years ago
  25. pleasant_cabbage

    I agree with Cage 100% We really do need to bring gaming into a more mature space. I propose that ultra-classy sex minigames be included in the majority of games, with not-at-all creepy shower scenes in the rest. Take that Peter Pan.

    #25 2 years ago
  26. Dragon246

    @Manu,
    +1000000000!!!!

    #26 2 years ago
  27. Da Man

    As an infantine child who read way too many bs books I play testosterone fuelled shooters to stimulate my power fantasies, as opposed to experiencing mature adult art with clever mini games and realistic portrayal of humans.

    I’m too stupid to realize that I ‘m not helping modern artists to leverage this amazing medium.

    #27 2 years ago
  28. Digital Bamboo

    What does it mean to “grow up” exactly?

    If it’s becoming an adult, and therefore more mature, then how would that translate over to the games industry?

    I honestly have no idea. The only examples I can think of would result in either very boring, (Fiscal Responsibility 2012)or very depressing (Downfall: The Game) experiences. Are games not meant to be fun?

    If the future of video games involves Mario settling down, reconciling with his weirdo cousin, & them building a deck together out behind the Mushroom Castle, then I don’t want to have anything to do with it.

    #28 2 years ago