C&C: Generals 2 to have “BioWare quality”

Friday, 24th February 2012 21:49 GMT By Stephany Nunneley

BioWare co-founder Ray Muzyka has said he feels there’s an “opportunity to add more story” into Command & Conquer: Generals 2.

Speaking with Kotaku, Muzyka said the real-time strategy title, a sequel to 2003′s Command & Conquer: Generals which uses the Frostbite 2 engine, will contain “BioWare quality” when it releases in 2013.

“We want to bring BioWare quality,” he said. “We want to bring a compelling story to a real-time strategy kind of experience [and it's ] a really interesting opportunity to add more story into that space. We see that as an opportunity to kind of innovate and give people more [but] in a way that’s appropriate for the genre.

“We want to make it more compelling, immersive experience for real-time strategy fans.”

BioWare’s Greg Zeschuk added that the original C&C was “the first game we played in the basement when we were supposed to be working on BioWare,” with Muzyka adding that the combat mechanic in Baldur’s Gate “was heavily influenced by RTS mechanics.”

While neither would convey much to Kotaku regarding the development process or provide much of anything regarding the title, in short, it sounds as though players can look forward to a strategy title with BioWare storytelling added in for some extra oomph.

Generals 2 is the first game in the series to be developed by BioWare Victory, with previous titles in the franchise being handled by Westwood Studios and EA Los Angeles.



  1. GrimRita

    Bugger. After SWTOR, they just cant make games on the PC

    #1 3 years ago
  2. Maximum Payne

    #2 3 years ago
  3. LOLshock94

    So were gunna have 30% of the game and the other 70% will be downloadable content….bioware ya shit suck a dick

    #3 3 years ago
  4. The_Red

    “opportunity to add more story”

    Wait, original Generals had a story? The previous C&C games all had fun storied and awesome live-action cut-scenes but NOT Generals. It wasn’t a Westwood game if I’m not mistaken and that’s one of the reason I hated it so much.

    #4 3 years ago
  5. DarkElfa

    After having played Swtor for 2 months, that heading makes me cringe.

    #5 3 years ago
  6. DSB

    “BioWare quality”

    The irony of that is, those two words are the only reason for the Bioware label (maybe even Biowares succes) and they’ve been doing little more than hollowing it out ever since.

    #6 3 years ago
  7. Peetry

    We shall see, at least it can’t be as bad as 4

    #7 3 years ago
  8. Gekidami

    None of the C&C games have been by Westwood since RA2.

    #8 3 years ago
  9. Talkar

    If they can pull it off in a way that is appropriate for an RTS game i won’t mind at all, but if they can’t, i’m going to hate Bioware for ruining generals x)

    #9 3 years ago
  10. absolutezero

    Its sad that Bioware quality now means crap animation and naff dialouge. :(

    Much like Obsidian quality means a broken experience.

    #10 3 years ago
  11. Dinasis

    @8 I’ve purchased just about every C&C game, before and after Red Alert 2, but RA2 was the last game I felt any sense of pride in owning.

    The spirit and feel of C&C games more or less died…well, pick your poison: when a lot of Westwood employees left when it became EA LA, when the higher ups and most of the remaining old guard left in the few years after, or when they stopped asking Frank Klepacki to come back and do the music.

    I predict Generals-flavored RA3 or C&C4 battles with Mass Effect-flavored gameplay and conversation trees, either mid-mission or between battles.

    #11 3 years ago
  12. Talkar

    Don’t forget that Bethesda means lousy graphics, worst voice acting in the industry, bad controls, poorly optimized, and full of bugs, just look at Skyrim xD

    #12 3 years ago
  13. Moonwalker1982

    @ 12

    And i have spent around 150+ hours in Skyrim and except for a crash, i think in total 5 times i didn’t have any problems. Lousy graphics? Wow….ok.

    #13 3 years ago
  14. Talkar

    Yes lousy graphics. They are only slightly better than a CoD game, just look at any texture pack for the game, and look at the comparison images. The modders do a better job than the devs.

    #14 3 years ago
  15. Dinasis

    @12 Bethesda != BioWare, so I don’t really think Skyrim is relevant here.

    #15 3 years ago
  16. Phoenixblight


    I did do a comparison and most of the modders just used Photoshop or advanced photo editing software and just put a sharpen filter. WHere you can actually see a difference with the high res pack and the modders. ANy person can just throw a sharpen filter and call it high res, doesn’t make it so. You won’t see a difference in open areas because of the mipmapping. You will see the difference up close. I am not an artist but even I can see a difference.

    #16 3 years ago
  17. drewbles82

    Last decent one was RA2. My fav had to be renegade though. do a new one of that and the online would be far better than call of duty cuz you have to work together, be strategic, rather than shoot at anything that moves.

    #17 3 years ago
  18. Talkar


    #18 3 years ago
  19. TwistedComplex

    Because adding story to an MMO worked out SO well the first time, right?

    #19 3 years ago
  20. loki

    just lol

    #20 3 years ago
  21. TheWulf


    I’ve yet to see that myth backed up with fact. In fact, it’s a frequently busted myth, it’s like a gamer meme, so when I see that I can’t help but think of a pimply kid saying “ME GUSTA!” or something.

    Just because other people have said it, it doesn’t make it true. If someone told you that walking off of a cliff would lead you to the land of the chocolate king, would you believe that? … Don’t answer. Point is is that often Obsidian gets attacked for things that have nothing to do with htem.

    The Gamebryo engine is buggy, but New Vegas was LESS buggy than Fallout 3 (something that a lot of modders pointed out). There were actually far, far less world/quest bugs to fix than there were in Fallout 3. With the way things are shaping up, it even looks like there are more bugs to be fixed in Skyrim than what existed in New Vegas.

    Here’s an example of a classic BETHESDA bug: there was 25% of the world map where, if you walked into it after completing a certain quest, it would just make the entire game freeze. There were no workarounds. It affected all (console and PC) versions of the game. It took Bethesda a month to fix.

    Nothing in New Vegas even comes close to that, and there are many bugs in Skyrim that far surpass the far less buggy New Vegas. And yet you don’t hear people talk about that so much. The Obsidian meme started because of KoTOR II, a game that they weren’t allowed to finish properly at the time because of a bad publisher. But New Vegas wasn’t that buggy, Alpha Protocol was nearly bug free, and Dungeon Siege III was so polished that finding a single bug was a rare feat.

    So it’s a meme, it’s equivalent to “ME GUSTA!” because there’s absolutely no evidence to back it up. It’s just that people said it back around the time of KoTOR II, and now all the kiddies are repeating it without really thinking on the relevance of it, today. This is just how much one bad game can tar you in the minds of gamers, and many, many bug free games since won’t fix that.

    So no, Obsidian doesn’t equal a broken experience at all.

    Less memes, more analysis. This isn’t 4chan.

    #21 3 years ago
  22. TheWulf


    Oh, you liar. :P

    There have been quests that are so bugged that everyone encounters the bugs. Unless you’ve only played about a total of 10 hours, there’s no way you haven’t encountered one of them, and been required to turn to UESP or mods for fixes.

    It’s rife. I had the lovely Esbern voice issue, which halted the main quest for me. And Sanguine’s quest was broken due to having found and killed the relevant giant prior to the quest. And so on, and so on, the game is just rife with issues.

    #22 3 years ago
  23. Paladin_Rage


    Well I played like 50+ hours and only encountered Esbern bug, and maybe Whitehold Jack the Ripper quest issue. Nothing more than that. Sooo I do disagree with you.

    Back to the topic: I really would like to see whay direction would the series take with Westwood. Shame that in the end EA is watering down the C&C brand. Though I don’t mind if they’re experimating on Generals. First one was fun to play, but didn’t deserve to have “Command and Conquer” in it’s title.
    Still shame there is no hope for the real series. C&C4 ended the story, Red Alert 4 will be direct to dvd exclusive porn. Renegade 2 maybe?

    #23 3 years ago
  24. Mike

    BioWare quality, lol.


    Quality, that.

    #24 3 years ago
  25. absolutezero

    “I’ve yet to see that myth backed up with fact.”

    Alpha Protocol.

    Go nuts.

    #25 3 years ago
  26. Hunam

    Alpha Protocol was broken as fuck on the PC, nothing basically worked, unless rubber banding is working.

    KOTOR2 was horridly broken, NWN2 took 14(!) patches to get into its current state of “nothing massively bad happens too often”

    New Vegas, well, most of the DLC was broken on release and it crashed almost constantly on the PS3, like it was crashing on the dot every 30 mins.

    #26 3 years ago
  27. DarkElfa

    @26, Bioware didn’t make Kotor 2, that was Obsidian.

    But I get your point, trust me.

    #27 3 years ago

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