Microsoft issues XBL permabans to illegit Forza 3, Borderlands players

Saturday, 17th October 2009 04:15 GMT By Nathan Grayson



Ok, with that out of the way, here’s an after-school-special-friendly example of why pirating’s for suckers. See, if you somehow managed to nab an illegitimate early copy of Forza 3 or Borderlands, you’re cruising for an Xbox Live permaban.

You know, when you play a pre-release title on LIVE when I know you shouldn’t have it, it’s not hard for me to figure out,” tweeted Xbox Live Director of Policy and Enforcement Stephen Toulouse.

Now, if your retailer of choice merely broke the game’s street date, that’s another story. Toulouse explained:

Don’t worry folks, anyone who bought a copy early is ok. In general, if you got a receipt, play away. These are illegit copies we’re hitting.”

He said nothing, however, about people who stole either game from a retailer. Our guess? You scoundrels are probably in the clear. Well, online anyway. But the police probably won’t touch your precious Gamerscore. Probably.



  1. theevilaires

    LMAO, what about the PS3 loyalist who doesn’t give a shit about live, buys all 3rd party games on PS3, plays free online on PSN, but still has a 360 and pirates their exclusive.

    LMAO beat that M$. You gonna send Major Nelson after them, LMAO. Admit it M$ you fucked up big time. You wanted to beat Sony out the gate so bad that you didn’t care what the long term repercussions were gonna be. Now you have the most systematic failure rated pirated console in history.

    All because you put profits before your people.

    #1 5 years ago
  2. ybfelix

    “PS3 loyalist who doesn’t give a shit about live, buys all 3rd party games on PS3, plays free online on PSN, but still has a 360 and pirates their exclusive.”

    They are still thieves, no excuse.

    #2 5 years ago
  3. JonFE


    I remember reading recent comments of yours regarding xbox fans trolling PS3 threads; still leading by example I see…

    #3 5 years ago
  4. Bulk Slash

    I’m about 99% certain this is just scare tactics from MS. Unless your DVD burner is making copies that aren’t identical to the original there is no way for them to tell if you have a pirated copy or an early release. I think their inability to actually prevent piracy on the 360 means they’re resorting to FUD to try and prevent it.

    #4 5 years ago
  5. Gekidami

    Well i know a couple of people who had ODST beat before it was out with pirate copies, they just didnt connect to XBL and used a different account. Now its out they play online with their pirate versions.

    #5 5 years ago
  6. mescalineeyes

    uhm, can someone link me to a source that specifically mentions borderlands? I have seen Forza 3 mentioned, but as 2K has not asked for my gamertag when they sent me the promo, I doubt they can “crack down” on Borderlands players, as there is no list of legitimate players to compare it to.

    #6 5 years ago
  7. jnms

    Oh, Mr Toulouse – the world is so black and white isn’t it.

    #7 5 years ago
  8. ReeceHeywood

    @mescalineeyes I wouldn’t worry, I’ve played loads of promo code weeks before release and never been asked for my gamertag.

    #8 5 years ago
  9. theevilaires

    hey Jonfe I own a xbox360 so I can damn well comment on 360 articles as I please. Now stickboy doesn’t own a PS3 so he’s the one trolling.

    #9 5 years ago
  10. mescalineeyes

    @mescalineeyes I wouldn’t worry, I’ve played loads of promo code weeks before release and never been asked for my gamertag.

    yes, I know, but for Forza 3 they asked people for their gamertags for this very reason.

    #10 5 years ago
  11. Galactic_Barret

    How do they tell the difference? There are so many variables. What if you lost the receipt? Got the game as an early present and it wasn’t included? Didn’t actually receive a receipt? How does this work exactly? Anyone know?

    #11 5 years ago
  12. Psychotext

    I wouldn’t be surprised if they did what they did before… released a detectable pirate copy of the game themselves. Not to mention that many of the DVD firmware hacks are detectable on a system level anyway.

    #12 5 years ago
  13. cachucha

    no.. well, so so

    #13 5 years ago
  14. BeastModeYMOB

    WOW LOL theevilaires your pretty funny dude. VG should let you post on here.

    #14 5 years ago
  15. Enkeixpress

    Nice one Microsoft, Keep ‘em coming! :)

    #15 5 years ago
  16. OrphanageExplosion

    Psychotext: No, the firmware hacks are not detectable system-side. Microsoft can detect badly ripped games, they absolutely cannot detect firmware-adjusted drives.

    If they could, they could simply add in code to the games themselves to detect the hack and stop the game running. The Xbox 360 executables can’t be altered so the games couldn’t be patched.

    #16 5 years ago
  17. Psychotext

    Actually, they can… just most of them are better stealthed these days. It’s why they tend to ban in random waves so people can’t tell what’s been detected, or how.

    You’re right about badly ripped games being the primary source of detection though.

    #17 5 years ago
  18. OrphanageExplosion

    The actual executables cannot be patched. This would require Microsoft’s private signing key which nobody has. If this was available, people would be able to run homebrew on unaltered Xboxes.

    These Forza and the previous ODST bans were all done via IP.

    #18 5 years ago

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