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PS4 & Vita bundle in works, to cost about $500 – rumour

Monday, 5th August 2013 16:14 GMT By Sherif Saed

PS Vita may be bundled with PS4, if this rumour is to be believed.

According to a “well-placed anonymous source” of Machinima, Sony is working on a bundle that features both PlayStation 4 and PlayStation Vita for around $500, to be made available at the end of this year.

Sony has already confirmed that Remote Play – being able to stream games from PS4 to Vita – will be mandatory to all PS4 games that don’t make use of extra hardware, such as Move or the PlayStation Eye.

Thanks, Videogamer.

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  1. monkeygourmet

    It wouldn’t suprise me.

    If it was £429, that would be hilarious and a big blow to MS.

    This is a good option of re-starting the Vita, especially with PS4 remote play.

    #1 11 months ago
  2. Pytox

    Would be insane :D

    #2 11 months ago
  3. xBASSxMONSTAx

    £429 would stick it to M$. :D

    #3 11 months ago
  4. sebastien rivas

    I say yes! it is a good marketting solution to help and propel Vita.

    But to what cost for the consumer. Throw us a pita on this bundle please :)

    #4 11 months ago
  5. monkeygourmet

    Also, didn’t the Codemasters founder ‘David Darling’, talk about this the other day?

    Didn’t he say:

    A Vita / PS4 package; “Is like handcuffing a dead body to it” ?

    #5 11 months ago
  6. mistermogul

    This makes a lot of sense.

    If it happens and is £429 I’m in!

    @5 – “A Vita / PS4 package; “Is like handcuffing a dead body to it” ?”

    Not really as it’ll only attract people who are interested in both anyway, like me.

    Those who just want a PS4/Vita only will still have those options.

    It’s not like Sony will force people to buy both…

    #6 11 months ago
  7. MrWaffles

    If this is true, it won’t be advertised, or widely available. For the mass consumer, PS4 + Vita looks pretty much the same as the Wii U + the pad.

    And believe, they rather not be confused for a Wii U.

    I say it will be a month-2 online bundle.

    #7 11 months ago
  8. DrDamn

    @5
    That was physical media … http://www.vg247.com/2013/08/01/physical-media-is-a-dead-body-handcuffed-to-next-gen-codies-founder/

    Bundle of some sorts would be a good idea as there will be people looking at that. Though this price sounds a little too good to be true.

    #8 11 months ago
  9. Lengendaryboss

    Sony why u no have common sense? What the hell is wrong with all of you? No this is not what either party needs, no PS Vita does not need this. It does not need to be a accessory to another platform to sell well.

    PS Vita should be able to be sold and marketed on its own merits (Games, Apps, PS Plus etc etc): not as an accessory to another system.

    No just no, no.

    Replace Seth with Sony: http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/250×250/37547223.jpg

    #9 11 months ago
  10. monkeygourmet

    @8 & @6

    :D was just messing!

    #10 11 months ago
  11. viralshag

    This would be an interesting combo… I’ve never been interested in the Vita but this could change my mind if the price is right.

    #11 11 months ago
  12. galbalazs87

    Is this “well-placed anonymous source” the same, who said MS is going to release standard and budget bundles of Xbox One without Kinect? :P

    #12 11 months ago
  13. actuallyisnotafox

    I love my vita its really good but it really needs some more games, god eater 2 would be nice, but besides that I hope they announce some games before the release of ps4 maybe at tgs or gamescom.

    #13 11 months ago
  14. MCTJim

    I heard about this rumor and it was determined to be debunked by digital foundry…. I could be wrong though…500 bucks for the Vita and PS4..more like 600 bucks after purchase of a proprietary memory card..can not see this happening as the vita is still quite expensive.

    #14 11 months ago
  15. fihar

    @9
    On the contrary, it should.
    With Crossbuy titles popping up like crazy and Plus IGCs shared across several different consoles, Sony is aiming to integrate all of their products, giving you extra incentives to own each and every one of them.
    What with remote play being mandatory for all PS4′s games, they are basically treating the Vita as a companion piece to the PS4 anyway.

    Unlike Nintendo, which aims to completely differentiate their two main products, Sony is treating the Vita as a portable PS3/PS4.
    As far as I’m concerned, Sony has already made their bed, might as well sleep in it.

    #15 11 months ago
  16. infernalism

    Good idea and I might even buy this bundle, but PSVita still needs better games.

    #16 11 months ago
  17. Lengendaryboss

    @15
    It can, it still stands: PS Vita is a stand alone product from its console brothers and vice-versa: that cross-buy scheme is only implemented by Sony and a few indie/small developers.

    “Sony is treating the Vita as a portable PS3/PS4.”
    I really hate it when people say this, especially when they say PS4 as well. At best they have said “console quality on the go”: but that does not technically translate into PS3/PS4.
    http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/sony-tempers-ngp-power-claims
    http://gematsu.com/2012/08/ps-vita-not-powerful-enough-for-metal-gear-rising-says-creative-producer

    The PS Vita can remote play some PS3 and virtually all (Thanks DrDamn) PS4 games, but its not a PS3/PS4 portable by that logic if it can’t do it natively.

    Edit: they were planning to integrate their services with their products. Not give bonuses by integrating all their products.

    #17 11 months ago
  18. DrDamn

    @17
    PSV can remote play *all* PS4 games which don’t use the camera. It’s an OS feature no special programming required.

    #18 11 months ago
  19. Lengendaryboss

    @18
    Thanks, edited.

    #19 11 months ago
  20. DrDamn

    @LB
    I know what you are getting at, but as a devices and in the OS PSV & PS4 have been designed to work closely and compliment each other. Much more so than PSP/PS3 and PSV/PS3. It’s an important part of the feature set.

    I agree PSV needs to be valid in it’s own right, but exploiting the obvious link up between the two and getting a bigger PSV install base out there is good business sense.

    #20 11 months ago
  21. diego-rbb-93

    You all guys forget about Ps4 needing Ps Plus to play Online. By this, Sony make sure that 70% of guys who take this bundle have an access to the Instant Game Collection on Vita, so you dont have to expend more than 600 excesive bucks in order to have some contents for the 2 devices.

    In fact, this bundle should come with at least 2 months with access to PS Plus.

    The point is… Will Sony offer a 4Gb memory or something for the Vita game storage?

    Im not seeing a bad deal with the bundle. But selling Vita+Ps4 its not the point, the point are the extras. Those will make this bundle have sense or not.

    #21 11 months ago
  22. Lengendaryboss

    @20
    The problem is PS Vita owners did not buy into PS Vita for it to be “companion app” = accessory, i just think its not a feature that should be marketed and supported heavily over something PS Vita owners are asking for.

    #22 11 months ago
  23. sebastien rivas

    @22 & @20
    Exactly,
    That is why I think it is a good merited idea from Sony. Vita seems a good product in itself that does NOT require PS4 to function so imagine you play a game on PS4, you are on the go somewhere and you can still continue on your Vita, so why not make a bundle of both.

    I think again it is a wonderful idea, especially that Sony enforces the use of Vita on PS4.
    It does not mean you need Vita to play , you can always stick to PS4 with game bundle(s) or even a PS4 Standard.
    But giving the choice to gamers is the best thing one company can do.
    It can only help Vita whom according to recent article on Vg247 suffered a lot in last quarter in terms of sells.

    So go all the way Sony with PS4+Vita. I cannot promise I will get it but I wait and see what comes in the bundle and/or at what price.

    #23 11 months ago
  24. DrDamn

    @22
    But if it means more PSV’s out there then that = more support and more games no?

    #24 11 months ago
  25. Francis O

    I don’t think this is a good idea. Sony would be giving up on the PS Vita actually being profitable if they did this.

    Just release the PS4, drop the price of the Vita to $199.99, and get your developers working on Gran Turismo, God of War, Infamous, and broker a deal for a GTA on PSV.

    That would increase sales far more than bundling it with the PS4. The PS Vita is failing because of a lack of games, not because nobody wants it.

    #25 11 months ago
  26. fihar

    @17
    I really wasn’t speaking about the technicalities when I said that the Vita is a portable PS3.
    Half of the titles that are on the Vita can be played in one way or another on the PS3. It might play better on the Vita but I’d rather save a couple of hundred quids stuck sitting in front of my TV (or spend it on a 3DS) rather than having the advantage of portability.

    Other than Gravity Rush, Muramasa, Tearaway and Lumines, I don’t see the point in getting one. Mercenary looks fun but sadly I already have KZ3. There’s P4G, but I already spent tons of hours in P4 already and while I’d love to revisit Inaba once more I don’t think it’s worth the money.
    And then there’s Zero Escape which sadly is also available on the 3DS.

    The point is, the Vita isn’t different enough from it’s console brothers and I don’t think it ever will be. It is good as it is, I just don’t want one.

    #26 11 months ago
  27. Lengendaryboss

    @24
    Yes but would people buy those games for their PS Vitas? Or continue to use it as remote play device for on the go action? But i suppose you could be right.

    I’m just saying that if PS Vita is marketed this way, then it just becomes a totally different product. Is it a companion app? Is it a dedicated handheld? Is it a indie handheld? Is It a handheld to play big console quality games?

    All good questions and the perception of what the PS Vita is right now.

    #27 11 months ago
  28. sebastien rivas

    @ 25

    Just release the PS4, drop the price of the Vita to $199.99, and get your developers working on Gran Turismo, God of War, Infamous, and broker a deal for a GTA on PSV

    But here is the thing,
    … being able to stream games from PS4 to Vita – will be mandatory to all PS4 games that don’t make use of extra hardware…

    Maybe I am carried away and I do not understand it but it seems like when a game appears on Ps4 then it should also appear on Vita.
    Now we do not know the technical side of this:
    1) will all Ps4 games come out at same time as Vita?
    2) Do you require 2 same games “PS4 game and Vita game” so the gamer can stream over back and forth? or can you just buy the Ps4 version and stream forth to your Vita via Sony Sub +?

    #28 11 months ago
  29. lexph3re

    A lot of people speaking for themselves is great. But personally I think Vita has great legs to stand on its own with. This bundle would be fantastic as well. So far on Vita muramasa, soul sacrifice, ragnarok ody, gravity rush and golden abyss have been gems on the device. And now with mercenaries, dragons crown, tearaway, ys and Valhalla knights 3 just around the corner there’s even more to be excited for.

    However, my biggest pet peeve is the 3rd party publishers. Where is my tales of hearts/innocence r? Where’s toukiden? Where’s Goldwater burst 2? Final fantasy x should not release before those games do. These 3rd party devs are really screwing up to me. Because people want to see the games and why they haven’t come through is killing any potential revenue the device could bring them.

    #29 11 months ago
  30. Belmont

    @25

    Vita fails because of lacking games, but also because install base is small(same as Wii U) with small install base third parties never come to it. This can help its install base a great deal. It makes sense.

    But I also agree that it is kinda like a gamble, it might not pay off. Unforseen consequences !? :)

    #30 11 months ago
  31. Lengendaryboss

    @26
    “console brothers” ??? thats where you lost me.

    For the last time the PS Vita is not a portable PS3.
    PS Vita is not a console brother, its a handheld, its a portable console.
    Whether or not you can play the majority of the titles on PS3 does not make the PS Vita a console brother.
    Whether its a spin off from a console franchise doesn’t make it a lesser reason to get a PS Vita.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_Crossing_(video_game)

    The first Animal Crossing was available for Gamecube and then Animal Crossing: New Leaf was available for 3DS “The game has received very positive reviews, gaining aggregate scores of 88 and 87.30% on Metacritic and GameRankings, so far making it the highest rated game in the Animal Crossing series.”

    http://www.siliconera.com/2013/07/31/animal-crossing-new-leaf-sales-are-over-5-million-worldwide/
    5 Million sold and counting, a console franchise can succeed on handhelds and vice versa.

    #31 11 months ago
  32. Lengendaryboss

    @Lexph3re
    Announced for release in NA and EU at E3 2013:

    ATELIER MERURU PLUS: THE APPRENTICE OF ARLAND: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5sh1vhgRJo

    Toukiden: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_j-FTHpzoQ

    #32 11 months ago
  33. noamlol2

    i doubt sony will be this generous

    but maybe it WILL push the vita sales

    100 for a vita + another 100 for a 32 gig (since the PS4 requires PS+ so you might aswell)

    600$ and that’s with just games you would get from +

    #33 11 months ago
  34. monkeygourmet

    I mainly use my Vita for emulation. PS1 classics and Neo Geo games.

    While Killzone looks pretty awesome, I think games like Tearaway and some Indie stuff holds more appeal to me. PS2 classics would also be a big plus, if that’s even possible.

    I totally get what people are saying about the triple A experiences on the small screen, it really doesn’t work for me, especially as I don’t really commute that far to work.

    So the choice of Killzone on portable or PS3 is a no brainer really. Indie stuff really shines on the device, some PC Engine classics wouldn’t go amiss either.

    Once the novelty wore off, Uncharted just felt silly playing something on that scale on a small screen.

    #34 11 months ago
  35. spazman

    I couldn’t give a toss about that piece of crap vita destined to be played once till the battery dies then spend an eternity gathering dust on my shelf – the vita is more plastic crap we think we need. 2D games went out like twenty years ago, (vita’s true speed) what we’re looking for is depth of field and not that taken crap COD and BF think we’re entitled to. Leave the handhelds to the five year old’s. And ps4 ain’t getting shit from me not until I start seeing some hallelujah feedback from the games first.

    #35 11 months ago
  36. Dragon246

    They are the people who “forecasted” X1 w/o Kinect bundle for 2014, which was promptly shot down by MS.

    #36 11 months ago
  37. Lengendaryboss

    @35
    You don’t care but you cared enough to comment? as for the handheld part thats a strange stereotype.

    #37 11 months ago
  38. lexph3re

    @LB Yeah I have a lot of Respect for Tecmo Koei and their Vita Support. They have actually been supporting the Vita whole heartedly and you can tell they enjoy it. Ninja Gaiden 1 and 2, Dynasty Warriors Next, Toukiden, Dead or Alive 5 Ultimate, One Piece Pirate Warriors, ATELIER and Chrono (If it gets a release). All show that they take the Vita pretty seriously.

    Why Others aren’t utilizing what they have is just baffling to me. Sony can only push the hardware as far as they can. It takes gutsy Devs/publishers to actually try and deliver these games to us.

    #38 11 months ago
  39. fihar

    @31
    Oh, but it simply is.
    You buy a Vita to play games. Some of the games that are on the Vita is playable on the PS3 in one way or another. I have a PS3, ergo there’s less reason for me to buy a Vita.
    It’s simple logic. Why in the world would I buy an expensive new handheld for an experience I could get (albeit maybe in lesser form) from a PS3?

    It’s not a matter of how handheld spinoff titles can/will succeed or not, it’s more a matter of whether said titles will be able to provide you with a different experience or not.
    Take Mario & Luigi for example. It’s a spinoff title but it plays differently than core Mario games that it’s able to stand independently.
    Remember Killzone: Liberation, Resistance: Retribution, and GTA: Chinatown Wars?

    Animal Crossings and Harvest Moons are something of an oddity. They’re not exactly traditional so it’s a bit unwise to use those two as a benchmark.

    #39 11 months ago
  40. Lengendaryboss

    @39
    You can argue this all day but just remember this

    “The PlayStation 3 is a home video game console produced by Sony Computer Entertainment.”

    “The PlayStation Vita is a handheld game console manufactured and marketed by Sony Computer Entertainment.”
    Source: Wikipedia.

    I’m not debating whether or not you will buy a PS Vita, No matter if the majority of the games are from PS3, the PS Vita is and never will be branded a “Console Brother” or a “Portable PS3″

    #40 11 months ago
  41. fihar

    @40
    I honestly wish that Sony would adopt the same kind of views you have because as of right now you seem to have the most faith in this machine.

    #41 11 months ago
  42. Francis O

    Sony needs to support themselves on the PS Vita and stop relying on 3rd parties. If the Vita had Infamous, God of War, Gran Turismo, and more quality first party games, it would be selling better.

    Bundling it with the PS4 does nothing but lose Sony money, which they can’t afford to do right now.

    #42 11 months ago
  43. Sylrissa

    So I can get a vita for essentially 100$? if i buy it bundled in with a PS4, for still the same price as the Xbox one is going to cost?. Sold

    #43 11 months ago
  44. OlderGamer

    I think it is a great idea, almost too good to be true honestly.

    #44 11 months ago
  45. Lengendaryboss

    @41
    Faith? At the moment not really: just waiting for the drought to end (End of August). I’m just saying that no matter how hard developers push PS Vita: it will never become PS3 quality in your hands (it might but by that point the PS3 would either be pushed to the side in favor of PS4 or it just wouldn’t matter).

    Just drop the console quality marketing shtick and just advertise the games with the “Greatness Awaits” or “The World Is In Your Hands” Still shtick but more realistic.

    @Francis
    The fact that Sony can rely on third parties for PS Vita and Nintendo can’t with Wii U proves…

    What? Finish it off for me.

    #45 11 months ago
  46. sebastien rivas

    @ 42

    Yes indeed, Sony looses money… so far…

    But I can onkly speak for myself. I never purchased a PS3 because it was too expensive and was not ready to spend 699 up front.

    Now they are more in my price range, I cannot say no to that. While at least on paper Ps4 is ever so slightly better than Xbox, they are still cheaper than Xbox1, how can I say no to that.

    The other point about Vita and PS4.
    To me, I don’t care if Vita is called little borther, handheld, extra remote or else. What I see is this: What can it do for me!
    1) I have down time at work sometime and continuing a game in progress from my Ps4 through and onto my Vita would be really cool.
    2) I do NOT know all features on the Vita but if it has Netflix or amazonprime instant video and/or dramafever.com video then I’ll be happiest dude on hearth when I go on vaccation for myself but more especially for my kiddo if I want to head to head romantic time with my wife around dinner time.

    So I must say it is all “pro bono”. Now the question is what can the Vita do in association with the Ps4 and at what price does it come for.

    All this to say. Even if Sony looses money, how can they trully loose if I am coming back in the game. I mean, am I the only one???
    If I am the only one in this situation then fine, Sony is about to close doors for sure, yet, I truly doubt I am the only one and Sony knows they need gamers and dever’s to support their effort in price reduction.
    I believe it is a smart move from Sony that will shine down the road and I hope it earlier the better for Sony because I again I appreciate their effort.

    #46 11 months ago
  47. Francis O

    Legendarychump

    Sony can’t rely on 3rd parties for the PS Vita, the system isn’t selling well. They need big first party games….just like the Wii U.

    #47 11 months ago
  48. Kreion

    Well aside from this happening meaning that they accept the Vita as…a bit of a failure, it would be a good deal. The reason I say it’d be accepted as a failure is that if, even with the cross play with the PS4, it still has to be sold at such a low price, in a bundle, it’s a failure as a game platform. At that point the problem arises of if it is still really the PS Vita, or just a Wii-like controller for the PS4 with some good stand alone games.

    Honestly I couldn’t see Sony being this generous, considering their profit margins don’t tend to be…massive. Plus they would be loosing so much on their sales of the PS4 and Vita by that point. But if they did it would certainly be a bold decision.

    It could be the spark they need to keep life flowing through the Vita, I mean I doubt it but you never know what titles will be available then.

    #48 11 months ago
  49. sebastien rivas

    @ 48

    It could be the spark they need to keep life flowing through the Vita, I mean I doubt it but you never know what titles will be available then .

    I completely agree with you. If the handheld device is such a failure then find ways to revive it; therefore why not through the Ps4. It is not going to hurt the Ps4 or at least I do not see how and why it could or would.

    #49 11 months ago
  50. DrDamn

    @Sebastien
    Remote play works by the PS4 playing the game and streaming the output to the PSV. So you just own the game on the PS4. Realistically it is for home network use only, over general internet is possible but not practical for most games due to latency issues.

    #50 11 months ago
  51. Lengendaryboss

    @Francis
    You cannot just have first party games, Sony cannot just take the Nintendo route otherwise i wouldn’t even consider buying a PS Vita.

    They both need Third and First Party support: for it to be even considered a purchase in my eyes.

    No big third party franchises or a traditional Pokemon game is the exact reason why i haven’t purchased a Nintendo console, MGS The Twin Snakes almost did.

    “Sony can’t rely on 3rd parties for the PS Vita”
    Oh They can
    Temco Koei: Toukiden and Atelier Meruru Plus: The Apprentice Of Arland
    EA: FIFA 14
    Warner Bros: Batman Arkham Origins Blackgate, LEGO The Movie Game/Marvel Super Heroes
    Square Enix: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD
    Namco Bandai Games: DBZ The Battle Of Z
    BigBen Interactive/Milestone: WRC 4
    TellTale Games: TWD Season 1+400 Days
    Atlus: Dragon’s Crown
    Marvelous USA: Valhalla Knights 3, Ys: Memories of Celceta, Ragnarok Odyssey Ace

    #51 11 months ago
  52. sebastien rivas

    @ DrDamn

    Haaaa, is this is the only case then it becomes a real expensive remote with little extra internet features and does not pertain 299 price point unless I can at least buy the same game for Vita and continue my Ps4 game progress.

    In any case, thanks a bunch for the info :)

    #52 11 months ago
  53. Francis O

    Legendaryboss

    “You cannot just have first party games, Sony cannot just take the Nintendo route otherwise i wouldn’t even consider buying a PS Vita.”

    - I never said Sony needs just first party games. I said they can’t just rely on 3rd party support. They need to get their big games out.

    “No big third party franchises or a traditional Pokemon game is the exact reason why i haven’t purchased a Nintendo console, MGS The Twin Snakes almost did.”

    - I don’t give a shit what you purchased or why you haven’t purchased a Nintendo system. Most people purchase Nintendo systems for Nintendo games.

    “Temco Koei: Toukiden and Atelier Meruru Plus: The Apprentice Of Arland
    EA: FIFA 14
    Warner Bros: Batman Arkham Origins Blackgate, LEGO The Movie Game/Marvel Super Heroes
    Square Enix: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD
    Namco Bandai Games: DBZ The Battle Of Z
    BigBen Interactive/Milestone: WRC 4
    TellTale Games: TWD Season 1+400 Days”

    If you think those games are going to turn the Vita around sales wise your in for a big surprise. They will help, but it’s not going to start selling like the 3DS with those games.

    Why is the 3DS doing so well Chump? Because of huge first party games like Animal Crossing, Luigi’s Mansion, Donkey Kong, Mario Kart, Mario 3D World, and Tomodachi Collection.

    then marginal third party support like Phoenix Wright and Shin Megami Tensei

    #53 11 months ago
  54. Lengendaryboss

    @Francis
    “Most people purchase Nintendo systems for Nintendo games.”

    Yes i know thats the general consensus BUT there are people who would like third party games and if Nintendo realised this they would most likely be market leaders by now and no i’m not the only who realises this.

    “If you think those games are going to turn the Vita around sales wise your in for a big surprise. They will help, but it’s not going to start selling like the 3DS with those games.”

    So let me get this clear you said “Sony can’t rely on 3rd parties for the PS Vita” i list a bunch of third party games and now your saying I think these games will turn it around like 3DS? Never said that and neither did you before (Why is that so familiar?). They can rely on third parties to make games.

    My point is there is a healthy amount of first party and third party releases which is what i want in a platform, i don’t buy Nintendo platforms for just their games same with Sony and MS. If i did it would gather dust and be sold eventually (Nintendo DS).

    #54 11 months ago
  55. sebastien rivas

    @53 and @51

    So ok, after articles and posts we can conclude Vita suffered losses due to the lack of 3rd parties.

    In your opinion and/or knowledge. What prevented more 3rd parties to develop on Vita.

    Was there a bad PR to begin with? or the hardware/inputs/software was such a headache that lots 3rd parties dropped it?

    In all honesty, the word Vita never implied anything to me until they started to hook it up to Ps4.
    To go even further,to me Vita was like a new eco minded everyday produce to get slimmer and in shape”… haaa I feel Vita today”.
    This is one the main reason I completely disregarded it and again to be honest it was not intentional. It is more like you hear a word or a brand and you imagine something out of it. I supposed I am more conditionned than I would admit :)

    #55 11 months ago
  56. Lengendaryboss

    @Francis
    Read Francis, my dear boy, Read :D

    Then come back with your boring chump rebuttal.

    #56 11 months ago
  57. Lengendaryboss

    @55
    There are different reasons why there is a lack of third party support:

    A. The platforms are generally not profitable for third parties.
    B. Not in their interest.
    C. Not Bothered.
    D. Small install base because lack of gamers support and vice versa.

    #57 11 months ago
  58. Francis O

    - Legendarychump

    “So let me get this clear you said “Sony can’t rely on 3rd parties for the PS Vita” i list a bunch of third party games and now your saying I think these games will turn it around like 3DS? Never said that and neither did you before (Why is that so familiar?). They can rely on third parties to make games.”

    - I never said you thought it was going to sell like the 3DS with those games. That was my own personal input. Sony can’t rely on 3rd party games that come to consoles as well like FIFA 13 to sell their system. They need exclusive big titles.

    “My point is there is a healthy amount of first party and third party releases which is what i want in a platform, i don’t buy Nintendo platforms for just their games same with Sony and MS. If i did it would gather dust and be sold eventually.”

    Why is the 3DS so successful chump? Answer the question.

    PS – LOL, at DBZ the Battle of Z. Nobody is buying a Vita for that game! Its download only and has a superior version on consoles.

    #58 11 months ago
  59. Clupula

    As someone with no interest in handhelds, but somewhat of a nagging need for one on occasion, I would definitely pick up this bundle. It’s a good way to get the Vita to people like me, who aren’t interested in portable gaming.

    This is probably the only way to keep that thing alive in the West, other than dropping the price to around $150, which is where I would start giving it a look.

    #59 11 months ago
  60. Lengendaryboss

    @Francis
    Why? There are good reasons why:

    I’ll give you three:
    Good Marketing.
    Critically acclaimed Games coming to it.
    Various hardware bundles and promotions.

    But i don’t know why you’re asking me since you posed it as rhetorical question.
    “Why is the 3DS doing so well Chump? Because of huge first party games like Animal Crossing, Luigi’s Mansion, Donkey Kong, Mario Kart, Mario 3D World, and Tomodachi Collection.”

    Thats right Francis: i never said the 3DS wasn’t successful and i don’t doubt the Wii U’s future but neither was the point i was making.

    Now answer me this why don’t more third parties make games for 3DS considering its so successful?
    GTA? MGS? Skyrim? Saints Row? Dead Island? Metro? DBZ? Red Dead? Max Payne? Hitman? Final Fantasy? I know the answer but unlike you i won’t give it away.

    #60 11 months ago
  61. Dragon246

    Eh, guys, what is thread about?
    I am expecting some srs bsns to take place.

    #61 11 months ago
  62. Lengendaryboss

    @Francis
    “PS – LOL, at DBZ the Battle of Z. Nobody is buying a Vita for that game! Its download only and has a superior version on consoles.” In the US not EU.

    So we are going from “cannot rely on” to “system sellers” (which is something we never initially brought up).

    You need to Read Francis, my dear boy, Read :D Where did i say people were going to rush out for those games?

    Ah hell backtrack your way into that pit.

    “Sony can’t rely on 3rd parties for the PS Vita” Who knew this meant system sellers as it so clear ;)

    #62 11 months ago
  63. FuntimeBen

    I doubt this rumor. Not because it isn’t a great idea, but because that is a $150 hit on the vita. That is more than half the cost! It sounds too good to be true.

    #63 11 months ago
  64. Francis O

    Chump –
    “Good Marketing.
    Critically acclaimed Games coming to it.
    Various hardware bundles and promotions.”

    1. False, the marketing is average, Sony and MS have far better marketing for their systems than Nintendo ever will for the 3DS.

    2. Critically acclaimed games like: Animal Crossing New Leaf, Luigi’s Mansion, Mario Kart 7, and Super Mario 3D Land.

    3. Various Hardware bundles? There is only a few if America. Sony has way more with the PS3.

    “Now answer me this why don’t more third parties make games for 3DS considering its so successful?
    GTA? MGS? Skyrim? Saints Row? Dead Island? Metro? DBZ? Red Dead? Max Payne? Hitman? Final Fantasy? I know the answer but unlike you i won’t give it away.”

    - Those are console games. Skyrim isn’t on any portable platforms. MGS 3D is on 3DS, but MGS V is console only. Same goes for GTA.

    #64 11 months ago
  65. sebastien rivas

    @63

    Agreed but it is not impossible. Vita’s technology is not of today; hence cost production lowered maybe as well as maybe a huge overstock.
    Lots of Maybes’ that shall be answered soon enough :)

    #65 11 months ago
  66. Lengendaryboss

    @Francis
    You know what just look at Gif:
    http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lqwk64u2Ot1qze50n.gif

    #66 11 months ago
  67. Francis O

    - Legendarychump

    Better yet, lets just wait till all of those games come out chump, and we’ll see how the sales are. The PS Vita needs big exclusive titles, not multiplat titles you can pick up on your PS3.

    #67 11 months ago
  68. Lengendaryboss

    @Francis
    Thats not a reason: at some-point those franchises were portable (with a few exceptions). All your doing is acknowledging its not on the system. So just look at it: http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lqwk64u2Ot1qze50n.gif

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metal_Gear_Solid:_Portable_Ops
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Theft_Auto:_Liberty_City_Stories
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Theft_Auto:_Vice_City_Stories
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Theft_Auto:_Chinatown_Wars

    I speak from the EU side regarding marketing and bundles.

    #68 11 months ago
  69. Lengendaryboss

    @Francis
    I’m still waiting where did i say people were going to rush out for those games? or even mention sales?

    #69 11 months ago
  70. Phoenixblight

    @ Francis and LengendaryBoss

    Can you just knock it off? You two are bickering like two old maids. Its obvious neither of you are persuading each other of your opinions.

    #70 11 months ago
  71. Dragon246

    @PB,
    Why so serious :P

    #71 11 months ago
  72. Phoenixblight

    the articles comments are 80% of these two just going at each other. Its annoying seeing the comment section being filled with these two bickering.

    #72 11 months ago
  73. Biscuitpants

    @72 my thoughts as well

    #73 11 months ago
  74. Lengendaryboss

    @70
    It started out as tease, then he just kept misreading and interpreting my words badly.

    If you don’t like it fine, no one is telling you to look at this. There are plenty of debates on VG247 that i don’t like so i respond in gifs, rhetorical questions and jokes but at no point do i tell people to knock it off because i don’t like it. You can choose to ignore it or contribute: choice is the key word.

    #74 11 months ago
  75. Francis O

    Legendarychump,

    you said Sony can rely on third party games right? Then you listed a bunch of 3rd party games.

    If you didn’t mean sales….Wtf did you mean? LOL

    When somebody says Sony can rely on 3rd party games….that implies sales. And that’s what I was talking about from the very beginning.

    #75 11 months ago
  76. Dragon246

    @PB,
    Internetz is srs bsns, you should know that :D

    #76 11 months ago
  77. Phoenixblight

    @74

    I prefer not to sift through all the articles. What you guys are doing should just be done through Skype or IM. Not flood an article with your guys’ sweet nothings to each other. Go get a room.

    #77 11 months ago
  78. Lengendaryboss

    @Francis
    @54 “They can rely on third parties to make games.”

    When i’m talking about sales i will mention it.
    When i’m talking about system sellers i will mention it.

    End of discussion to keep those two above happy.

    #78 11 months ago
  79. Lengendaryboss

    @77
    Oh i’m so sorry for flooding this article with less than 80 comments.

    You must be so pissed about this: Less than 670 comments in that section: that is when things get flooded. http://www.vg247.com/2013/01/15/dmc-devil-may-cry-fans-are-a-crying-shame/

    Edit: i don’t want Skype or IM this guy, thats for people i actually know not strangers.

    #79 11 months ago
  80. Phoenixblight

    @79

    Nope doesn’t annoy me as that was everyone responding to the article where that is not the case here.

    #80 11 months ago
  81. Sini

    why would sony make a vita bundle when ps4 will sell out without it.

    #81 11 months ago
  82. Lengendaryboss

    @80
    Fair enough, i’m done responding to him in this article besides this Repeat Edit.

    “So let me get this clear you said “Sony can’t rely on 3rd parties for the PS Vita” i list a bunch of third party games and now your saying I think these games will turn it around like 3DS? NEVER SAID THAT and neither did you before (Why is that so familiar?). They can rely on third parties to make games.”

    Rely definition: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/rely

    I’m still waiting where did i say people were going to rush out for those games? or even mention sales?

    #82 11 months ago
  83. Francis O

    Legendarychump

    You just side-stepped like a Ninja on that one. You meant sales jackass. What else would you have meant when you said Sony can “rely on 3rd parties”. That only means sales jackass.

    #83 11 months ago
  84. Phoenixblight

    @81

    To increase the install base for the Vita so developers may be persuaded to make games for it or utilize it in their games for PS4.

    #84 11 months ago
  85. Sini

    you want to bump vita, offer $100 vita price cut instead of needing to pay $499 for the bundle.

    #85 11 months ago
  86. Lengendaryboss

    @85
    This, it would be a lot easier and more people would buy into it. Instead of companion/accessory crap.

    #86 11 months ago
  87. Phoenixblight

    @85

    Thats a matter of opinion. SOny have been the one talking about the integration between the VIta and PS4. I would say put up or shut up. I know for a fact if they announced this bundle I would drop my current preorder to pick this bundle up.

    #87 11 months ago
  88. Gheritt White

    Oh wow.

    #88 11 months ago
  89. Lengendaryboss

    @88
    Surprised at the argument or the bundle?

    #89 11 months ago
  90. monkeygourmet

    I know it’s slightly different tech, but does the Vita / PS4 streaming work as well as Wii U’s tablet?

    From what I understood the Vita has an encoder? Or something?

    Does this also mean you can stream over Wifi when you’re away from the PS4 and would there be lag?

    #90 11 months ago
  91. Gheritt White

    @89: The bundle, not followed the argument.

    #91 11 months ago
  92. Lengendaryboss

    @91
    Cool.

    #92 11 months ago
  93. Phoenixblight

    @90

    “Does this also mean you can stream over Wifi when you’re away from the PS4 and would there be lag?”

    You could but you would be increasing the amount of lag exponentially. Every node it has to go to from your PS4 adds lag.

    #93 11 months ago
  94. monkeygourmet

    @93

    Cool. But in the same house or a few rooms away it should be pretty good right?

    #94 11 months ago
  95. Major Mayhem 70

    I really don’t give a shit about the Vita but I sure am enjoying the battle between The Chump and Francis. Cllllaaaaaaaaaassic. Lmao 😜

    #95 11 months ago
  96. Lengendaryboss

    @95
    No more classic then you being a hypocrite and Xbot, which genuinely makes me laugh: especially when you can’t see it.

    Pro-Tip: If your enjoying something that has no comedic value then you need to get outside or watch TV. So please keep your delusional Xbox comments/comments where they belong.

    #96 11 months ago
  97. Professor Zoom

    #77

    +1

    #97 11 months ago
  98. Major Mayhem 70

    Why you getting on my case for Legendary?!? What did I say or do to you?!? I was talking about Francis O and this dude he kept calling a “Chump”…. Unless your admitting your a chump.
    Now u can call me hypocrite and an Xbot till the cows come home. Once again I’ve preordered both systems. Till you can say the same thing, I believe when the consoles are released I will be the one with a better understanding of the plus and minuses of both systems. So take that tip and stick it….

    #98 11 months ago
  99. Lengendaryboss

    @98
    Buying both consoles and being an Xbot/hypocrite are two (or three) totally different things.

    Don’t play smart you know he’s referring to me and i know it: i just acknowledge it as a lame, cheap rebuttal thats lost all purpose. I don’t have to take anything because i’m not.

    End Of Story.

    #99 11 months ago
  100. Major Mayhem 70

    @99

    @98
    Buying both consoles and being an Xbot/hypocrite are two (or three) totally different things.
    I see now you don’t have a clue. But you wanna offer pro tips…

    #100 11 months ago
  101. ChunkyLover112

    Lol. What are the pshit people trying here? Trying to sell their poorly built oexcuse of a handheld along with new shitty “next-gen” console? Why on earth would people buy both when no one even wants to buy one? These $ony people are so messed up… Haha.

    #101 11 months ago
  102. Riseer

    ChunkyLover112,Well first off for 500USD that would be a fucking awesome deal.It’s getting tons of indie support,it is a great gaming device reguardless what you say.Go play with your kinect bitch.

    #102 11 months ago
  103. Telepathic.Geometry

    First off: Hi Sherif, welcome to VG24/7. I’m guessing you’ve been for ages, and I’m the only asshole who didn’t notice, but nice to see a new face on here nonetheless.

    Secondly: I personally have no interest in PS Vita, but I think that it’s very good thinking if it’s true. Making it a mandatory thing for the devs is the key. If it’s not mandatory, it’s dead on arrival. If it’s true of course…

    #103 11 months ago
  104. zersus

    Why not earlier? This should have been available right from the start!
    If amazon allows me to transfer my pre order in to a PS Vita + PS4 pre order, I would do it. But I’m not going to give up my “head start” on the pre order (May the 30 ;)).

    #104 11 months ago
  105. survivalist

    I bought a vita on release day to play psp games. It seems like people forget the fact that you can play psp games on the vita. Every psp game on the vita just looks amazing. To name a few… Crisis core, god of war, mhfu, 3rd birthday, daxter. if that’s not enough even ps1 games look dope. You can play metal gear, tomb raider, silent hill, dino crisis.

    Hate to say it but Sony has used the same tactic to sell their portables. They always promise remote play. They do deliver on that but in just a handful of decent game.

    Imo if Sony really wants ps vita to sell, they must get capcom’s monster hunter franchise. That game alone took psp to another level. Sadly, that’s not going to happen anytime soon.

    #105 11 months ago
  106. rjthakid

    Chunkylover112 said:

    “Lol. What are the pshit people trying here? Trying to sell their poorly built oexcuse of a handheld along with new shitty “next-gen” console? Why on earth would people buy both when no one even wants to buy one? These $ony people are so messed up… Haha.”

    So much fail, “Chunklover”.

    #106 11 months ago
  107. Lengendaryboss

    @102/106
    Don’t feed the Xbot, he’s saying we’re PlayStation Hits.

    @103
    There are some new faces to VG247 who pop in occasionally. Remote play is built into the system (i’m not sure how much developers have to do on their side.)

    #107 11 months ago