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Sony declined to bundle PS4 camera in order to best Xbox One price – report

Wednesday, 26 June 2013 20:29 GMT By Stephany Nunneley

Sources close to IGN have said the PlayStation 4 camera was nixed a bundled add-on with every PS4 in order to knock $100 off the original price of $499. Which is the same price as Xbox One.

Sony only informed its retail partners the camera would not be included, but never specified a lower price point in order not to tip off Microsoft before its own reveal, according to the report.

This goes against what various Sony execs have previously said, particularly Shuhei Yoshida.

IGN notes that it may have ‘beaten’ Microsoft by making the camera optional, but it has also diminished consumer adoption of the product, not to mention creating an inconsistent software support.

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38 Comments

  1. Lengendaryboss

    Well at least its optional, if the consumer wants it they can buy it simple.

    #1 2 years ago
  2. pukem0n

    well yeah, but if it is optional, third party developers wont do shit and support it with anything meaningful.

    which system is better is left to the consumer.
    i would rather tell Microsoft to bring out a kinect-less SKU for 399 as well, but thats just my opinion.

    #2 2 years ago
  3. KineticCalvaria

    @2, exactly the PS camera will be completely redundant again, unlike the Kinect which will have support in nearly every game.

    Although I will probably use neither anyway, just as my current Kinect is only used for voice control on films.

    #3 2 years ago
  4. The_Red

    ” but never specified a lower price point in order not to tip off Microsoft before its own reveal”
    That is a rather smart move and if true, then it shows how Sony has learned to fighting for consumer attention (PS1) rather than demand it with bold but empty promises (PS3, Xbox One).

    #4 2 years ago
  5. tezzer1985

    If a game has some sort of Kinect support, then so would the PS4 version have camera support, for those who want it.

    Kinect has no games that use the technology…that Fantasia game is also on the 360…so I’m yet to see a game utilise the unique features of the new Xbox.

    #5 2 years ago
  6. wildBoar

    Uhu… This doesn’t seem too legit. It retails for about 59$. And they never try to squeeze a profit out of console sales, so I don’t see where 40$ came from.

    #6 2 years ago
  7. tezzer1985

    @2 funny thing is Kinect is in every box, and developers are not supporting it, or doing anything meaning full…that’s properly why Sony took it out, which I applaud, cause even if you buy it after, it’s still cheaper then the Xbox One

    #7 2 years ago
  8. salarta

    @3: Probably because support for the Kinect is now essentially an unspoken requirement.

    #8 2 years ago
  9. wildBoar

    @7 Exactly! And when IGN is the site doing the reporting, I wouln’t really put much weight to it.

    #9 2 years ago
  10. hitnrun

    @3: For one thing, just reading “Kinect will have support in nearly every game” made me mildly nauseous.

    For another, I doubt it. As Sony learned the hard way, devs make the game for the less difficult system and port it over, so the only things you’re getting for including extra features that don’t scale from the competitor are shaky ports and the privilege of being $100 more expensive.

    You’d think Microsoft would have learned that too, given that they benefited tremendously from it not too long ago.

    #10 2 years ago
  11. _LarZen_

    I would rather it was bundled with every PS4, as it would have much much bigger support. As it is now it will just be a camera a few will buy.

    I did not like the features and games for Kinect on X360, but if Kinect V2 is as good as demonstrated I can see it being a good thing to have on every XBO.

    #11 2 years ago
  12. melonbuster1

    Same sony. . Doing things out of fear. . Because if they are the same price Microsoft would mop the floor with them. . Cowards

    #12 2 years ago
  13. Stardog

    The Kinect is redundant even if it comes with the console. There is not one game worth owning and there never will be.

    Sony have never had any success with motion gaming, so it’s a good idea for them to just drop it.

    #13 2 years ago
  14. SlayerGT

    @12 I disagree. They’re in it to win back the people they know won’t use it (COD, Madden, Fifa a.k.a the majority). They want the landslide, not the “marginally more sales than XBOne”.

    #14 2 years ago
  15. SlayerGT

    @13 I agree. I don’t believe they put it in there for games mainly.

    Edit: I would say they’ll even pull it to become cheaper, seeing as they’re on the fence, but I have my own theories as to way it HAS to be connected.

    #15 2 years ago
  16. laughing-gravy

    Ha ha ! this is obviously bulls**t. How can a camera that only costs $59 add $100 to the cost of a console? Some basic research before printing crap like that may be in order.

    #16 2 years ago
  17. Lengendaryboss

    @16
    It covers marketing and distribution costs in addition R&D costs.

    #17 2 years ago
  18. laughing-gravy

    @17 Wrong the cost for marketing and R&D are already factored into the retail price, try harder! EDIT: The camera only costs $59 at retail!

    #18 2 years ago
  19. Lengendaryboss

    ^ Misread your comment.

    #19 2 years ago
  20. ps3fanboy

    sony give customers choice, microsofts don’t… it’s a fact!

    #20 2 years ago
  21. Units

    Last minute panic station

    #21 2 years ago
  22. SlayerGT

    @21 Following MS’s suit huh? Oh wait..

    #22 2 years ago
  23. reask

    Good god how the mighty have fallen.
    I am disapointed with Sony more and more as the next gen looms.

    They seem to want to be the consumers friend to just spite MS.
    Were not doing shit because MS are doing shit so it isn’t cool.
    What happened to the market leaders?
    No headset with 1 yet Sony gave feck all with there 600 bucks PS3 launch.
    Oh wait I forgot what they said.
    Get a second job. lmao.

    If this is the best they can do prior to launch its just sad really.

    #23 2 years ago
  24. Animeboy413

    Love PS3 Fanboy he sure does shake up message boards

    #24 2 years ago
  25. laughing-gravy

    @23 Ha ha you make me laugh.

    #25 2 years ago
  26. Animeboy413

    @23, Who cares Sony has fallen, same happen with Nintendo. but they responded well lso please leave them alone as a company. I don’t want to see Google or Apple trying to buy them one day…

    #26 2 years ago
  27. laughing-gravy

    So they saved me £80 on an unnecessary add on, how dare they!

    #27 2 years ago
  28. fearmonkey

    I could care less about that camera, and to be honest the PS4′s camera isnt as nice as the new Kinect. If the camera’s features and motion control games are important to you, if you like being scanned in a game, yadda yadda, great…get an Xbone.

    If you want a console, a controller, and the most powerful box, get a PS4.

    #28 2 years ago
  29. KineticCalvaria

    @8, exactly, therefore Kinect will obviously take off better, in terms of usage.

    @10, you can guarantee there will be some small form of Kinect intergration in the majority of games.

    #29 2 years ago
  30. Lloytron

    Kinect/PS Eye bundling is an interesting topic.

    Bundling a peripheral in every box means that everyone that owns that console has one. Remember the Mega Drive shipped with a three button d-pad. A six button one was available but few games really made the most of it, because developers had to cater for people that didn’t have that peripheral – so the benefit was minimial.

    With a new peripheral that is bundled with a console – take Wii motion controller – these can be used well if developers can guarantee their customer has one, and its not optional.

    But Kinect is a different matter. Its a peripheral that works for some and not for others depending on physical conditions. So developers can’t guarantee that it will always work well.

    For me, current Kinect only works for me at night, if I’m the only one in the room. PS Eye works on occasion but usually I’m wrestling it so SEE THE DAMN CARD or whatever. So for me this not being mandatory is a good thing.

    #30 2 years ago
  31. laughing-gravy

    Kinect or other cameras add nothing to the game experience. If you want to issue voice commands then just use a headset, If you want to wave your arms about like a tit then use a camera.

    #31 2 years ago
  32. stretch215

    Lol. The kinect is one of the reasons I’m buying an xbox first. My kids can’t get enough of that shit.

    #32 2 years ago
  33. Fin

    Yeah I don’t think the camera is $100 of a difference if it’s retailing for $60…

    Nothing to stop Sony selling a SKU with the camera down the line (or at launch).

    #33 2 years ago
  34. laughing-gravy

    @32 Yeah shit’s the right word.

    #34 2 years ago
  35. Maabren

    I guess PS4 with camera(PS4Eye) bundle between $429-$449 as PS4Eye retail at $59. And as Scott Lowe point out PS4 with PS4Eye at $499 price it all seems like BS. This may be the value argument MS need, but still seems like BS. Sony gave us a choise, Deal with it!

    #35 2 years ago
  36. Djoenz

    Thats funny. I read on a dutch site that Sony decided this 2 weeks prior to the reveal. That means either before press conference or e3.

    #36 2 years ago
  37. Digital Bamboo

    Smart. I have no interest in the camera, nor anywhere to put it. I’ll spend that $100 on games.

    #37 2 years ago
  38. Djoenz

    Correction ignore my last comment. Article is identical lol.

    #38 2 years ago

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    Evolve’s fourth monster, the Behemoth, as well as the four new hunters are shown off in new gameplay video. Evolve’s latest gameplay trailer gives everyone a good look at each of the four new hunters and the massive Behemoth monster. The hunters can be bought either separately or though the hunting pass, while the monster […]

  • PS4 firmware update 2.50 causing issues with Killzone: Shadow Fall

    The suspend/resume feature in PlayStation 4′s 2.50 firmware update is causing some issues with Killzone: Shadow Fall. Killzone: Shadow Fall developer Guerrilla has said that the game is experiencing some issues in some instance where the suspend/resume feature is used. The timing of when players put the game in suspend mode does have an effect, […]

  • Bungie on Destiny matchmaking: “We believe there’s no substitute for a pre-made team”

    Crazy though this may seem, it’s possible that Destiny shipped according to plan. History points to community as a crucial component, far from the contingency that many now suspect. Paul Davies spoke to Bungie for clarity. “The community always engineers the best solutions for bringing players together. While Matchmaking is a great resource for introducing […]

  • Bloodborne works with suspend/resume, but only offline

    PlayStation 4′s newly-added suspend/resume feature works with Bloodborne as you’d expect, but only while offline. PlayStation 4 received the long-awaited suspend/resume feature today as part of firmware 2.50, and people are starting to test it out with various games. Bloodborne does work with the feature, but only if you play offline. Playing online is arguably […]

  • This is what Crossy Road looks like in first-person

    Crossy Road is fun and addictive. But in first-person, it’s mostly frightening. YouTube user Andy Front Films likes Crossy Road so much he decided to show off what it would look like in first-person. If crossing roads quickly and watching around for cars and trains, all of this as the camera chases you felt intense […]

  • Take a small behind-the-scenes peek at Mass Effect 4

    BioWare cinematic director Ken Thain has given us a very slim look behind the scenes at some motion capture work from the upcoming Mass Effect game. The upcoming Mass Effect game, whether it ends up being called Mass Effect 4 or not, will most definitely incorporate some form of motion capture work. How do we […]

  • Borderlands: The Handsome Collection – 8GB day one patch on PS4, 16GB on Xbox One

    Day one patches for Borderlands: The Handsome Collection are pretty hefty. Both the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One versions of Borderlands: The Handsome Collection require players to download lots of gigabytes to make the experience as smooth as possible. The PlayStation 4 version has an 8.31GB day one patch. The Xbox One version however has […]

  • Get a PlayStation 4 with Bloodborne and The Last of Us for $435

    If you’ve been waiting for the perfect game to get to buy a PlayStation 4, there’s no better time than the present. Amazon is offering a good PlayStation 4 bundle at the moment. For $434.99, you get a PlayStation 4 console, The Last of Us, and Bloodborne. The Last of Us is of course the […]

  • Upcoming Battlefield Hardline patch to nerf the K10, buff battle rifles

    Battlefield Hardline’s first patch will focus on weapon balance and a few changes have been proposed. Battlefield Hardline lead multiplayer designer Thaddeus Sasser posted a few of the balance changes that the team is considering for the next patch. K10: reduce bullet damage to 33 Saiga and PTR: reduce recoil to bring more in line […]

  • Call of Duty: Black Ops 3 and a new Resident Evil game coming this year, according to research firm

    According to digital games analyst SuperData, a new Resident Evil game is due this fall and that this year’s Call of Duty is Black Ops 3. In its latest report on digital console games, research and analytics firm SuperData revealed that a new Resident Evil is coming this fall. “We anticipate this month’s downturn to […]

  • Bloodborne: you can add gestures to your messages

    As players get deeper into Bloodborne, they keep uncovering so many of its little new additions, including this one. Bloodborne, like all of the Souls games before it, allows players to leave messages for other players. These messages could be used to point players towards impending doom, treasure, or just be sarcastic and witty. What […]

  • PlayStation 4 firmware update 2.50 is now live

    PlayStation 4 firmware update version 2.50 has started rolling out. Reports are coming in saying that Yukimura, PlayStation 4′s firmware 2.50 has been made available to download. The update is clocking in at just 245mb, so get downloading. 2.50 brings with it many new additions, including the suspend/resume feature, backup and restore, accessibility options and […]

  • Harley Quinn DLC for Batman: Arkham Knight is a prequel

    Batman: Arkham Knight’s Harley Quinn pre-order DLC is set before the events of the main game, according to Amazon’s description. Today we learned a few details about the pre-order DLC for Batman: Arkham Knight, namely the Harley Quinn one. According to the description on Amazon, the DLC takes place in the lead-up to the events […]

  • Bloodborne Vicar Amelia summon mystery solved

    Bloodborne players unable to summon near Vicar Amelia: here’s your solution. Bloodborne’s secrets are unfolding by the hour as clever players piece together From Software’s cunning design. Yesterday we reported problems summoning in the Cathedral Ward, before the Vicar Amelia boss fight. It turns out this isn’t a bug – or if it is, it’s […]

  • Steven Spielberg will direct film adaption of Ready Player One

    Steven Spielberg will direct the film adaption of the sci-fi, virtual world, video game themed novel Ready Player One by Ernest Cline. Warner Bros. bought the rights to the film in June 2010 and hired screenwriter Zak Penn to rewrite the previous draft written by Eric Eason, according to Deadline. The book takes place in […]

  • Bloodborne players with PS4 headsets shouldn’t forget about the custom audio

    Here’s a friendly reminder for Bloodborne players with PS4 headsets: be sure to download the Headset Companion App from the PlayStation store if you haven’t already. As previously reported, the game supports a custom Bloodborne audio mode which can be uploaded. It contains custom audio created by developers specifically tuned to enhance the audio. This […]

  • EA explains why FIFA Ultimate Team transfer prices are now platform specific

    EA has posted a blog entry explaining its FIFA Ultimate Team transfer market price ranges which now include platform-specific pricing in order to best the coin sellers. EA said it has implemented the changes to FUT over the last several weeks because it should be “fair and fun for every player,” ultimately coming to the […]

  • Game of Thrones: Episode 3 – The Sword in the Darkness now available

    In case you forgot, Game of Thrones: Episode 3 – The Sword in the Darkness was released today. It is available on Mac, PC, PlayStation 3, PS4, Xbox 360 and Xbox One. The third episode releases on iOS devices and Android tomorrow, March 26. The Sword in the Darkness finds Asher Forrester heading to Mereen […]

  • Bloodborne players are already documenting their crazy antics

    Bloodborne has been available for almost two days now in North America, and already players are posting interesting clips and character customization choices for the game. Below are interesting takes on creating a character and videos of a frustrating death and another full of blood coming from a very painful place – monster or not. […]

  • FIFA Ultimate Team celebrates sixth year in existence with giveaways

    FIFA Ultimate Team is celebrating its sixth year in existence with special events running from today until March 29. According to EA, every FUT fan will be handed one free pack every day, and those who play at least one match in the FUT Birthday Cup will have a chance to win rare “tradable In-Forms” […]

  • Halo Online is a F2P PC game in development exclusively for Russia – video

    Halo Online is a free-to-play game which will launch this spring in Russia, and is in development with Saber Interactive. According the reveal event attended by IGN Russia, the game was designed to run well on lower-end PCs and runs on a modified Halo 3 engine. The game is set on a secret UNSC space […]

  • SteamWorld Dig Xbox One release expected in late May

    SteamWorld Dig is coming to Xbox One, developer Image & Form has announced. A firm release date hasn’t been announced, but the studio expects the title to arrive on the system in late May. “We’re preparing quite an elaborate Easter egg for the Xbox One version – a gaming thing that we really wanted to […]

  • SMITE celebrating first anniversary with a sale on skins, Ultimate God Pack

    Hi-Rez Studios is celebrating the first anniversary of SMITE with a sale. From today through Friday, March 27, the Ultimate God Pack, which includes all current and future Gods, will run you $19.99. Alll individual pre-launch skins are 50% off, and all Gem Packs will award bonus gems. In addition, from March 27-29, all SMITE […]

  • Borderlands 2 has sold around 12 million copies, says Gearbox

    Speaking with Microsoft’s Major Nelson in his podcast, Gearbox Software boss Randy Pitchford stated Borderlands 2 has sold somewhere around the 12 million mark. As of August 2014, it was announced by Take-Two in its financial report the 2012 game had sold-in 10 million units. Pitchford noted in the podcast he learned of the figures […]

  • Broken Age releasing on PS4 and Vita same day as Act 2 on PC

    Double Fine Productions has announced it will release Broken Age on the PlayStation Store next month. Act 2 will also be released on PC. The full Broken Age adventure will release on PlayStation 4 and Vita on April 28 in North America and April 29 in Europe. It features cross-buy and cross-save. Broken Age Act […]

  • Star Citizen earned another $1 million within two weeks – total hits $76 million

    Star Citizen continues its funding streak with backers pumping another $1 million into the game’s development in the last two weeks. The total earned for the space sim has now reached $76 million ($76,015,532 to be exact) with 851,395 backers contributing to the staggering figure. Star Citizen’s latest update was version 1.1 which included two […]

  • Final Fantasy Type-0 HD, Resident Evil Revelations 2 and Battlefield: Hardline top Media Create charts

    Final Fantasy Type-0 HD, Resident Evil Revelations 2 and Battlefield: Hardline were the big ticket debuts during the March 16-2 period in Japan, with each game claiming the top three slots on the Media Create charts, respectively. Final Fantasy Type-0 HD moved 92,094 on PlayStation 4, while Resident Evil Revelations 2 moved 73,373 units on […]

  • You can now learn English or Spanish on Xbox One with the Rosetta App

    Want to learn English or Spanish? Rosetta Stone has an App for that on Xbox One. According to the language teaching firm, Rosetta Stone’s Discover Languages, the new application teaches English and Spanish by way of immersive simulation. Users will virtually travel to learn vocabulary and grammar “necessary for real-world interactions.” Here’s how it works: […]

  • PayDay 2 and PayDay: The Heist have sold over 9 million units combined

    The PayDay franchise is a lucrative IP for Starbreeze and Overkill, as both games combined have sold over 9 million copies as of November 2014. The company has also sold over 8 million paid DLC packages since PayDay 2 was released in 2013 (via NeoGAF). In its Q2 half year report issued in February, net […]

  • Nintendo wants to “surprise” customers with NX, not expand upon existing hardware

    Nintendo president Satoru Iwata has firm wants to “surprise” players with its new NX system. Speaking in an interview with Nikkei, translated by Kotaku, Iwata wouldn’t go into details on the new system, but stated expanding on a current gaming system would be “dull.” “In the past few years, the idea of what [encompasses] a […]

  • Kojima Station show suspended

    In another episode in the the ongoing kerfuffle between Hideo Kojima and Konami, the publisher has suspended the Kojima Station web show. Recent tweets from the newly created Japanese Metal Gear Solid account confirm that Kojima Station will not be broadcast tomorrow, but would not provide a date for the next episode. The Tweets were […]

  • Watch Battle Royale for free this weekend on Xbox Live

    Square Enix is celebrating the launch of Final Fantasy Type-0 HD by offering Xbox Live members in the UK a free rental of Battle Royale. Starting Saturday, March 28 and through Sunday, March 29, Xbox Live members in the UK will be able to rent Battle Royale through the Xbox Video Store, for free. The […]

  • Bloodborne journal, part 1: managing anxiety on the path to the Cleric Beast

    Bloodborne is both like and unlike the Souls games. Brenna descends into Yharnam with reluctance and trepidation. Need help succeeding in Bloodborne? You need our Bloodborne walkthrough and boss guide. Bloodborne isn’t Demon’s Souls or Dark Souls. Let’s get that out of the way right off. I enjoyed both Dark Souls games, but it was […]