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Sony declined to bundle PS4 camera in order to best Xbox One price – report

Wednesday, 26 June 2013 20:29 GMT By Stephany Nunneley

Sources close to IGN have said the PlayStation 4 camera was nixed a bundled add-on with every PS4 in order to knock $100 off the original price of $499. Which is the same price as Xbox One.

Sony only informed its retail partners the camera would not be included, but never specified a lower price point in order not to tip off Microsoft before its own reveal, according to the report.

This goes against what various Sony execs have previously said, particularly Shuhei Yoshida.

IGN notes that it may have ‘beaten’ Microsoft by making the camera optional, but it has also diminished consumer adoption of the product, not to mention creating an inconsistent software support.

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38 Comments

  1. Lengendaryboss

    Well at least its optional, if the consumer wants it they can buy it simple.

    #1 2 years ago
  2. pukem0n

    well yeah, but if it is optional, third party developers wont do shit and support it with anything meaningful.

    which system is better is left to the consumer.
    i would rather tell Microsoft to bring out a kinect-less SKU for 399 as well, but thats just my opinion.

    #2 2 years ago
  3. KineticCalvaria

    @2, exactly the PS camera will be completely redundant again, unlike the Kinect which will have support in nearly every game.

    Although I will probably use neither anyway, just as my current Kinect is only used for voice control on films.

    #3 2 years ago
  4. The_Red

    ” but never specified a lower price point in order not to tip off Microsoft before its own reveal”
    That is a rather smart move and if true, then it shows how Sony has learned to fighting for consumer attention (PS1) rather than demand it with bold but empty promises (PS3, Xbox One).

    #4 2 years ago
  5. tezzer1985

    If a game has some sort of Kinect support, then so would the PS4 version have camera support, for those who want it.

    Kinect has no games that use the technology…that Fantasia game is also on the 360…so I’m yet to see a game utilise the unique features of the new Xbox.

    #5 2 years ago
  6. wildBoar

    Uhu… This doesn’t seem too legit. It retails for about 59$. And they never try to squeeze a profit out of console sales, so I don’t see where 40$ came from.

    #6 2 years ago
  7. tezzer1985

    @2 funny thing is Kinect is in every box, and developers are not supporting it, or doing anything meaning full…that’s properly why Sony took it out, which I applaud, cause even if you buy it after, it’s still cheaper then the Xbox One

    #7 2 years ago
  8. salarta

    @3: Probably because support for the Kinect is now essentially an unspoken requirement.

    #8 2 years ago
  9. wildBoar

    @7 Exactly! And when IGN is the site doing the reporting, I wouln’t really put much weight to it.

    #9 2 years ago
  10. hitnrun

    @3: For one thing, just reading “Kinect will have support in nearly every game” made me mildly nauseous.

    For another, I doubt it. As Sony learned the hard way, devs make the game for the less difficult system and port it over, so the only things you’re getting for including extra features that don’t scale from the competitor are shaky ports and the privilege of being $100 more expensive.

    You’d think Microsoft would have learned that too, given that they benefited tremendously from it not too long ago.

    #10 2 years ago
  11. _LarZen_

    I would rather it was bundled with every PS4, as it would have much much bigger support. As it is now it will just be a camera a few will buy.

    I did not like the features and games for Kinect on X360, but if Kinect V2 is as good as demonstrated I can see it being a good thing to have on every XBO.

    #11 2 years ago
  12. melonbuster1

    Same sony. . Doing things out of fear. . Because if they are the same price Microsoft would mop the floor with them. . Cowards

    #12 2 years ago
  13. Stardog

    The Kinect is redundant even if it comes with the console. There is not one game worth owning and there never will be.

    Sony have never had any success with motion gaming, so it’s a good idea for them to just drop it.

    #13 2 years ago
  14. SlayerGT

    @12 I disagree. They’re in it to win back the people they know won’t use it (COD, Madden, Fifa a.k.a the majority). They want the landslide, not the “marginally more sales than XBOne”.

    #14 2 years ago
  15. SlayerGT

    @13 I agree. I don’t believe they put it in there for games mainly.

    Edit: I would say they’ll even pull it to become cheaper, seeing as they’re on the fence, but I have my own theories as to way it HAS to be connected.

    #15 2 years ago
  16. laughing-gravy

    Ha ha ! this is obviously bulls**t. How can a camera that only costs $59 add $100 to the cost of a console? Some basic research before printing crap like that may be in order.

    #16 2 years ago
  17. Lengendaryboss

    @16
    It covers marketing and distribution costs in addition R&D costs.

    #17 2 years ago
  18. laughing-gravy

    @17 Wrong the cost for marketing and R&D are already factored into the retail price, try harder! EDIT: The camera only costs $59 at retail!

    #18 2 years ago
  19. Lengendaryboss

    ^ Misread your comment.

    #19 2 years ago
  20. ps3fanboy

    sony give customers choice, microsofts don’t… it’s a fact!

    #20 2 years ago
  21. Units

    Last minute panic station

    #21 2 years ago
  22. SlayerGT

    @21 Following MS’s suit huh? Oh wait..

    #22 2 years ago
  23. reask

    Good god how the mighty have fallen.
    I am disapointed with Sony more and more as the next gen looms.

    They seem to want to be the consumers friend to just spite MS.
    Were not doing shit because MS are doing shit so it isn’t cool.
    What happened to the market leaders?
    No headset with 1 yet Sony gave feck all with there 600 bucks PS3 launch.
    Oh wait I forgot what they said.
    Get a second job. lmao.

    If this is the best they can do prior to launch its just sad really.

    #23 2 years ago
  24. Animeboy413

    Love PS3 Fanboy he sure does shake up message boards

    #24 2 years ago
  25. laughing-gravy

    @23 Ha ha you make me laugh.

    #25 2 years ago
  26. Animeboy413

    @23, Who cares Sony has fallen, same happen with Nintendo. but they responded well lso please leave them alone as a company. I don’t want to see Google or Apple trying to buy them one day…

    #26 2 years ago
  27. laughing-gravy

    So they saved me £80 on an unnecessary add on, how dare they!

    #27 2 years ago
  28. fearmonkey

    I could care less about that camera, and to be honest the PS4′s camera isnt as nice as the new Kinect. If the camera’s features and motion control games are important to you, if you like being scanned in a game, yadda yadda, great…get an Xbone.

    If you want a console, a controller, and the most powerful box, get a PS4.

    #28 2 years ago
  29. KineticCalvaria

    @8, exactly, therefore Kinect will obviously take off better, in terms of usage.

    @10, you can guarantee there will be some small form of Kinect intergration in the majority of games.

    #29 2 years ago
  30. Lloytron

    Kinect/PS Eye bundling is an interesting topic.

    Bundling a peripheral in every box means that everyone that owns that console has one. Remember the Mega Drive shipped with a three button d-pad. A six button one was available but few games really made the most of it, because developers had to cater for people that didn’t have that peripheral – so the benefit was minimial.

    With a new peripheral that is bundled with a console – take Wii motion controller – these can be used well if developers can guarantee their customer has one, and its not optional.

    But Kinect is a different matter. Its a peripheral that works for some and not for others depending on physical conditions. So developers can’t guarantee that it will always work well.

    For me, current Kinect only works for me at night, if I’m the only one in the room. PS Eye works on occasion but usually I’m wrestling it so SEE THE DAMN CARD or whatever. So for me this not being mandatory is a good thing.

    #30 2 years ago
  31. laughing-gravy

    Kinect or other cameras add nothing to the game experience. If you want to issue voice commands then just use a headset, If you want to wave your arms about like a tit then use a camera.

    #31 2 years ago
  32. stretch215

    Lol. The kinect is one of the reasons I’m buying an xbox first. My kids can’t get enough of that shit.

    #32 2 years ago
  33. Fin

    Yeah I don’t think the camera is $100 of a difference if it’s retailing for $60…

    Nothing to stop Sony selling a SKU with the camera down the line (or at launch).

    #33 2 years ago
  34. laughing-gravy

    @32 Yeah shit’s the right word.

    #34 2 years ago
  35. Maabren

    I guess PS4 with camera(PS4Eye) bundle between $429-$449 as PS4Eye retail at $59. And as Scott Lowe point out PS4 with PS4Eye at $499 price it all seems like BS. This may be the value argument MS need, but still seems like BS. Sony gave us a choise, Deal with it!

    #35 2 years ago
  36. Djoenz

    Thats funny. I read on a dutch site that Sony decided this 2 weeks prior to the reveal. That means either before press conference or e3.

    #36 2 years ago
  37. Digital Bamboo

    Smart. I have no interest in the camera, nor anywhere to put it. I’ll spend that $100 on games.

    #37 2 years ago
  38. Djoenz

    Correction ignore my last comment. Article is identical lol.

    #38 2 years ago

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  • The open beta for Nosgoth has gone live

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  • First gameplay footage of Homeworld Remastered Collection being shown this weekend

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  • Latest Final Fantasy Type-0 HD video delves more into combat

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  • Something really cool happens when you finish Resident Evil HD *spoiler*

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  • Metal Gear Solid 5: The Phantom Pain release date “should be” announced soon

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  • Punch-Out!!, more Throwback offerings arrive on Nintendo US eShop

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  • The Witcher Battle Arena has arrived on the App Store and Google Play

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  • Second wave of Star Wars titles arrive on GOG, third wave next week

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  • Hyperdimension Neptunia Re;Birth 1 releases on Steam next week

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  • Take a look at the controls and special abilities in The Order: 1886

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  • These elderly people are better at GTA 5 than you’d expect

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  • More major Microsoft titles will be coming to PC

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  • Someone is attempting to recreate Dark Souls’ Lordran in Minecraft

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  • Elite: Dangerous is getting Community Goals with update 1.1 – all the details

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  • Sunset Overdrive, Skyrim and Dead Rising 3 highlight this week’s Deals with Gold

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  • Survarium: 10,000 FREE Premium account keys to give away

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  • “I don’t like people thinking we’re doing underhanded, dirty shit,” says Evolve dev

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  • Clock Tower spiritual successor Night Cry gets first screens

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  • Tekken X Street Fighter is still happening, 40 people working on it

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  • From Game of Thrones to Borderlands: all of Telltale’s adventure games rated

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  • There is probably a new Battletoads game coming

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  • Here’s a short, 60fps trailer for DmC: Definitive Edition

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  • Xbox One to PC streaming targeting 1080p, 60fps

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  • Microsoft is looking at offering PC to Xbox streaming

    Having announced Xbox One to PC streaming as part of its Windows event last night, Microsoft said that making the process a two-way street is on the cards. Microsoft’s Phil Spencer sat down to do a group interview following the Windows event and talked a little bit about the firm’s plans for streaming, including a […]

  • Watch John Romero play Doom

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  • World of Speed has gotten fairly pretty over the past year

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  • Minecraft user data leaked in plain text – change your passwords

    Minecraft users should change their passwords and those of any accounts using the same log-in details. Minecraft’s user data servers have apparently been compromised, with user names and passwords leaked online in plain text. 1,800 Mojang accounts were affected. The news comes via German source Heise and The Guardian and has been treated quite seriously […]

  • Resident Evil: The Final Chapter will commence filming in August

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  • Nintendo bosses “do not really understand modern gaming”, says former executive

    Former Nintendo executive Dan Adelman has provided frank insight into the Japanese platform holder’s inner workings. Adelman, who was one of Nintendo’s most important developer liaisons, left in August 2014. One of the first things he did was say that Nintendo had issued a gag order on his social media use, and shortly thereafter called […]

  • Sony’s 10% apology discount doesn’t apply to pre-orders

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  • 343 to beta test Halo: The Master Chief Collection matchmaking fix

    Halo: The Master Chief Collection is still broken, believe it or not. The next Halo: The Master Chief Collection update is, like most of the others so far, designed to resolve the shooter collection’s ongoing matchmaking woes. 343 Industries is determined to get it right, apparently, as it’s gone so far as to elect to […]

  • Here’s the release schedule for Star Citizen’s story and first-person modules

    Star Citizen lead Chris Roberts has shared release windows for several modules of the space simulation sandbox. Star Citizen was the focus of a BAFTA Masterclass presentation yesterday, during which Roberts outlined the game’s current development milestone goals. Polygon captured the details. The first person shooter, planetside and social elements on the game are expected […]

  • Destiny: Crota’s End Hard Mode has already been beaten

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  • All maps and modes for Battlefield Hardline detailed

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  • Alien: Isolation has sold over 1 million copies

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  • Fable Legends launching on PC alongside Xbox One with cross-platform play

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  • Parkour pioneer David Belle acted as a consultant on Dying Light

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