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Xbox One to cost $399, PS4 for $349 says Pachter

Monday, 3 June 2013 14:39 GMT By Dave Cook

Xbox One will retail at $399 at launch, while PS4 will run you $349, according to Wedbush Morgan Analyst Michael Pachter.

GI.biz reports that Pachter made his predictions in a pre-E3 address to investors today, during which the analyst placed the PS4′s build cost per console at $275, and added that the Xbox One will cost $325 per unit.

Pachter added that Microsoft may still consider a subscription-based Xbox One model at cheaper cost, which backs up rumours of a $299 version.

In the address, Pachter added, “We believe the ability to watch live TV from a cable, telco, or satellite set-top box through Xbox One could entice an MSO to drive subscriptions through a subsidised box in exchange for a multi-year contract. The ‘always connected’ requirement for the Xbox One likely means that a broadband connection will be required, suggesting to us that ISPs may have an incentive to offer a subsidy as well.

“In addition, Microsoft could conceivably subsidise the Xbox One through prepaid Xbox Live Gold subscriptions (as it has done on a limited basis in the past) or premium Skype functionality as well. Similarly, Sony could subsidise the PS4 through prepaid PlayStation Network subscriptions, but unlike Microsoft, it does not have a history of doing so.”

What do you make of the prices above? Do they make sense or are they too expensive? Let us know below.

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54 Comments

  1. Dragon246

    Not surprising.
    Although if true, Wii U can be buried in graveyard after next-gen arrives.

    #1 2 years ago
  2. Lengendaryboss

    They seem to be the right price points, now all Sony and MS have to do is wow us at E3.

    #2 2 years ago
  3. SlayerGT

    I think that’s too low.

    #3 2 years ago
  4. Joe Anderson

    I said PS4 would be £349 and Kinect One £399 (sorry Xbox One, genuinely wrote that so left it in).

    #4 2 years ago
  5. KineticCalvaria

    Sounds good to me, I’ll take 50 of each!

    What are we thinking in £?

    X1 £349?
    PS4 £299?

    Or is that wishful thinking? :)

    #5 2 years ago
  6. hitnrun

    I’ve given up flaming game sites for reposting Michael Pachter, but could you at least phrase the headline more informatively and less bait-y?

    Like “Wedbush Morgan Securities Analyst Michael Pachter predicts XboxOne to cost $399; PS4 $349 according to speculation of investment analyst Michael Pachter.”

    Anyway, he’s definitely low. Those are the kind of price points that gamers would hold out hope for, if they dared. I predict both prices will be exactly $100 more. Never mind pricing high for early adopters; they’ll have to be high just to manage the inevitable inventory shortages.

    #6 2 years ago
  7. Christopher Jack

    If only this were true, I expect both to be charged a further $100 more.

    @5, Try more like
    X1 £399
    PS4 £349

    #7 2 years ago
  8. melonbuster1

    Great prices. . Because it’s old tech.. not the best video cards.. we shouldn’t pay more than this. @1 your right.. wiiu is dead if this is true. . 179.99 and they could survive. For 2 years more.. no price droo and they are done

    #8 2 years ago
  9. KineticCalvaria

    @7, Yeah I think that’s probably more likely lol.

    #9 2 years ago
  10. tmac2011

    noty a bad price for 349 dollars but i never really listen to this guy

    #10 2 years ago
  11. NeutralBlade

    This seems unlikely without a sub contract which in the end, you’ll pay more for the system than buying it outright. M&S do want to make money, so $400 – $500 seems a lot more likely.

    But if the prices are low, and the gotcha! is monthly sub fees for online, (meaning next-gen online prices could be $10 – $15 per month), then those consoles really won’t be cheaper, now will they? Neither one will bury the Wii U, if it will cost a lot more to play them online; while Wii U is free online, while having an unrestricted used games market.

    With all these new features they’re adding to online, I highly doubt prices will remain the same as this gen. Hopefully these questions will be answered at E3. And I really doubt the PS4 will retail for cheaper than the Xbox One. If anything, the prices will be the same, or the Xbox One will be a little cheaper. The only thing that would make the Xbox One more expensive, is if Sony chose not to bundle their PS Eye with the console.

    #11 2 years ago
  12. DrDamn

    They have both been designed around hitting the $400 sweet spot. If rumours of no camera included with PS4 are true then I wouldn’t be surprised if the XO was a little more expensive. That would be partly intentional to give a perception of more/better.

    UK prices I would fully expect $400 ==> £300. That’s the way it’s been for a while and it’s near bang on taking exchange rates and VAT into account.

    #12 2 years ago
  13. Tavarish

    So… 500€ for Europa and 600€ for Finland just because Finland, for both consoles? :D

    #13 2 years ago
  14. Froseidon

    To be honest, I think that the pricing that Amazon used as a placeholder was too high, but it was just that, a placeholder. However, this price seems a little too low to me, considering that the PS3 and X360 seemed to (if I remember correctly, it was sometime ago) be a higher price than these new ones. I think Sony and MS will be wanting to make more profit off of these consoles than these prices will. I’m assuming at least £/$50/100 higher than what Patcher predicts.

    To be honest, I think a better source of information (I.e – I mean the companies themselves) will have to give a price before I believe anything. Also going off the fact I’m not a large fan of Pacther at all (which probably means I am a little bias against his predictions, but I seriously think he is just being a little hopeful with his pricing predictions).

    #14 2 years ago
  15. silverstorm

    @13 Same shit here in Sweden. But still it’s good news, i expected about 400 dollars for PS4.

    #15 2 years ago
  16. DrDamn

    @14
    XBox360 launched in the UK at £280 for the full-fat version, PS3 was £425 and widely accepted as poorly priced. This is why I think they will both be aiming for ~£300 and the design decisions they’ve made reflect that. They’ve both gone for very good value builds.

    #16 2 years ago
  17. ps3fanboy

    I TOLD YOU SO THE XBONE WILL COST MORE AND DON’T FORGET THE YEARLY ONLINE FEE ON TOP OF THIS.

    THAT WILL BE A MANDATORY PAY BECAUSE THE XBONE NEED TO CONNECT ONLINE..

    YOU WILL BE LOOKING AT A MINIMUM OF 499 HERE TO PAY AT DAY ONE. THEN YOU WILL BE PAYING EVERY YEAR THE ONLINE FEE. DON’T BE FOOLED PEOPLE, JUST SAYING.

    #17 2 years ago
  18. G1GAHURTZ

    The man knows nothing.

    #18 2 years ago
  19. Digital Bamboo

    There are PS3 & Xbox360 systems that cost that now. When has a new console ever arrived at the same price point as the system it was succeeding? Will we be able to pick up a current gen system for $150 soon?

    I think $400 is the absolute minimum for both (in North America), barring any contractual bullshit.

    #19 2 years ago
  20. Samoan Spider

    As I’ve said before about Pachter; Throw enough shit at the wall and some of it sticks.
    I’d love to see both consoles at the £300 price point but we all know that £349/£399 is far more likely.

    #20 2 years ago
  21. Dragon246

    Aren’t higher Eu prices because of taxes? I wonder why people are the company’s throats when its their own govt. which makes these things costly.

    #21 2 years ago
  22. NocturnalB

    A subscription based box doesn’t make any sense at all. It barely makes sense hooking your cable box up to your Xbox, but tossing another subscription on top of your existing cable/sat service? Why would anyone do that? I HIGHLY doubt a sub-based Xbox will happen, although Microsoft has surprised me a lot recently. The greed in particular stands out.

    #22 2 years ago
  23. ps3fanboy

    —-

    #23 2 years ago
  24. naffgeek

    I have been Xbox all this gen really (even though I eventually bought a PS3 for Uncharted).

    But I just cannot see me buying a Xbox one.

    The reveal just seemed like a bunch of middle aged men salesmen trying desperately to seem relevant.

    I am really looking forward to E3 but they will have to have one hell of a showing to get me back onside no matter what the price of the console.

    #24 2 years ago
  25. Samoan Spider

    @23 That’s Warren Spector, not Michael Pachter. Secondly, perilous means risky, not doomed to failure.

    Edit: Left here for posterity despite ps3fanboy backtracking on his link :)

    #25 2 years ago
  26. ps3fanboy

    @22 i agree with you NocturnalB nothing ms do make sense and the greed particular stands out. this gen for ms will be a rude awaking and may be the last xbox we will ever see.

    #26 2 years ago
  27. polygem

    yeah he knows shit……but IF true i would be very happy with the price, eventhough it will be 349 dollar = 349 euro here. but still, fair price. i expect it to be higher though. i have putted 500 euro aside for one of those machines plus 1 or 2 launch games, so yeah, looks like i´m in. i´d like to have pseyemovethingy not to be bundled with the console but being an optional purchase.

    #27 2 years ago
  28. ps3fanboy

    @25 okay my wrong i will have to take it back then.. no tears shed…

    #28 2 years ago
  29. Samoan Spider

    @28 Lol, no probs :D

    #29 2 years ago
  30. DrDamn

    @Dragon246
    Yes. For example on current fairly low exchange rates $399 ==> £266 + 20% VAT ==> £319.

    #30 2 years ago
  31. Tavarish

    @21 So if e.g. PS4 would cost 350 USD you don’t need to pay tax on it in US? o_O I thought it is, in US, price + tax during purchase? E.g. 350 USD + 100 USD for tax?

    That said yes, in EU price includes tax, VAT, and varies from country to country. Still there is clear differences in baseline price.

    For some reason baseline price for things like game consoles, guide price is given by manufacturer like Sony, is higher in Finland than in Germany. When baseline price is higher than in e.g. Germany and then gets VAT on top if it we are paying way more than rest of Europa. It makes no sense, but it’s how it goes.

    Edit: Comments like #26 really make me roll my eyes and laugh. It requires small miracle for X1 to tank and not to be good investment for MS.

    @30 You really and actually still think that manufacturers and/or publishers give a fuck about exchange rates? xD

    #31 2 years ago
  32. hitnrun

    @24: Ditto, and I never even bought a PS3 (the size of my pile of shame would have made that financial malpractice).

    And the E3 showing will have to be of as-yet-unannounced exclusives, since if this gen taught us anything, it’s 1) the consoles will be virtually the same in capability 2) to the extent that they’re not, devs will code to limitations for a multiplat release 3) the PC will have surpassed both probably by release day.

    @31: The US of A doesn’t have a sales tax (or the hidden VAT). Most US states have a sales tax of about 6-7%, which works out to $20-$30 on a console purchase.

    #32 2 years ago
  33. Christopher Jack

    @30, Wouldn’t that initial $399 also include tax? Not sure how it is in America but in Australia we almost always have GST(our version of VAT) included in the final price, I think it maybe actually illegal to not include it.

    #33 2 years ago
  34. DrDamn

    @31
    I’m basing it on past experience. In the UK console prices have remained very competitive with the US prices when you take exchange rates and VAT into account. Examples – Launch prices PS3 $599/£425, 360 $399/£280. Current price of a Xbox 360 4GB in the US $199, UK equivalent £130.

    You do seem to get shafted in Finland, but in the UK the evidence says the prices are competitive.

    #34 2 years ago
  35. DrDamn

    @33
    No. As tax varies from State to State prices quoted are before sales tax.

    #35 2 years ago
  36. Tavarish

    @32 I keep forgetting that USA is basically taxes free nation :D

    @33 Prices that are announced for EU have to include VAT, tax, in them because it’s demanded by European laws. So if e.g. Sony says “PS 4 is 400€!” that announcement price has to contain tax in it.

    That said I really don’t see Sony or MS using actual exchange rates, but instead just either pull price from their asses or slightly low-ball UK price and does 1 USD = ~1.2€ conversion for EU.

    #36 2 years ago
  37. DrDamn

    @36
    They won’t use strict actual exchange rates as they will change, but they have a big influence on the price they can set goods at. For example the WiiU price at release was hampered by a strong Yen.

    However as consumers if you want to compare prices between countries and make a point about any differences you have to use exchange rates and taxes in your comparison – at least as a basis.

    #37 2 years ago
  38. salarta

    For once, Pachter has said something I don’t immediately disagree with. That doesn’t mean I think he’s right, only that this is a subject so up in the air until official announcements that it can go all sorts of ways. Though I guess something could be said that he likely did his homework on all the parts and what they all roughly cost to make.

    #38 2 years ago
  39. backup

    powerful console to be sold at cheapest rate hell yeah

    #39 2 years ago
  40. jmg24bad

    Thats pretty good pricing for what you get.

    ps4 , a camera, a mic, and a controller . (I think you get all that)

    xbox one , kinect, controller, mic. (i would guess they include a mic)

    #40 2 years ago
  41. Keivz

    No chance they’ll be this low. No chance. In the U.S. the kinect holiday bundle currently retails at $380. That includes an XBOX 360, a kinect, and a 250 GB HDD (with two standard kinect games). You’re telling me that with kinect 2.0, twice as much HDD space, a blu-ray drive, 16x more RAM, a better GPU/CPU, and a fancier controller you’re only going to pay $20 more? They’ll both be $500 at an absolute minimum, and that’s if they’re being generous.

    Note. FWIW, the PS3 Move bundle retails for $370 here.

    #41 2 years ago
  42. NeutralBlade

    @41 I also believe both systems will be $500, as you said and I’ve also stated in the past. The current-gen systems already have bundles close to $400, and it seems unlikely these brand new systems will debut at $400 or less. I’m pretty sure any prices related to what is believed, will be tied to multi-year contracts. A $400 price point would be nice, though I’m going to wait a while before purchasing anyway.

    #42 2 years ago
  43. DrDamn

    @41
    It’s partly both going for much more sensible components and designs. It makes the old and new systems less comparable. Expect price cuts on current models at E3 too.

    #43 2 years ago
  44. azmza

    XT.V its all about T.V T.V T.V T.V Fee T.V Fee Fee T.V

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbWgUO-Rqcw

    #44 2 years ago
  45. zinc

    Well guess I’ll be keeping my PS3 for awhile. £350-400 is a little steep for me at the mo.

    #45 2 years ago
  46. reask

    Probably been already reported but I just got an email from xbox and it states that your live subscription will cover both 360 and 1.

    #46 2 years ago
  47. ps3fanboy

    Do you smell that? A shit-storm is coming.. the shitbarometer is rising.

    *Prepares for comment-storm*

    #47 2 years ago
  48. reask

    That really annoyed me in New York.
    You see the price of something and think not bad then you buy it and they add the tax on.
    At least here you pay what is marked.

    #48 2 years ago
  49. zinc

    @46, I should bloody well hope so too!

    #49 2 years ago
  50. hitnrun

    @48: It’s a matter of habitual preference, I expect. As an American, I’m used to mentally adding my state’s 6% tax to everything (except groceries) and would be inflamed if they tried to hide what the taxes really are by sneaking them back into the “value chain.” The open add-on method means they can’t raise taxes without a public debate (read: backlash).

    #50 2 years ago
  51. Anjiro

    Pachter’s ass must hurt since he keeps pulling out so much information from it…

    #51 2 years ago
  52. Telepathic.Geometry

    Keivz was spot on I think. Considering the prices of PS3, eyetoy, 360, kinect all at their larger HDD prices right now, $450 to $500 seems like the best we can hope for realistically.

    What’s your take on it Dave? Pat? Sam? Brenna? Stace?

    #52 2 years ago
  53. Digital Bamboo

    That’s true about the taxes. I failed to include them in my previous posts. In my home province, sales tax is 13%, so taking that into account there are current gen bundles that actually cost more than these guesses (Star Wars Kinect & God of War Legacy).

    Where I am now, taxes are included in the listed price, and I like that system a lot better. Then again, the Wii U hasn’t even been released here yet.

    Another thing to take into consideration is the minimum wage of each country. While console & game prices are higher in, say, Australia, the minimum wage is a hell of a lot higher than most places in the U.S., where they’re cheaper. I wrote a detailed post in the forum about this a long time ago, but I don’t think anyone read it.

    #53 2 years ago
  54. junguler

    @51 LOL +1

    #54 2 years ago

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    A new Battlefield 4 drop is on the horizon, and to give you an idea of what to expect, we have a video for you below featuring information on the Weapon Crate DLC. According to Battlefield expert Westie, players can expect five new weapons along with the return of the Gun Master game mode. The […]

  • Pillars of Eternity issues to be addressed in patch 1.03, expected next week

    Obsidian Entertainment plans to release a Pillars of Eternity patch next week to combat issues users have reported. Until the patch is released, the developers have posted workarounds for some of the most common issues. The issues reported span framerate drops, inability to launch the game unless in administrator mode, crashes on 32-bit machines, animal […]

  • Mortal Kombat X videos show Erron Black gameplay, Ermac fatalities, more

    Erron Black, the gunslinger which was outed for Mortal Kombat X in the achievements listing last week, was featured in the latest livestream from NetherRelam Studios yesterday evening. Along with gameplay, fatalities and variations for Black, the developer also provided a look at gameplay for: Ermac vs Mileena; Ermac’s brutality and fatality moves; Lui Kang […]

  • The Legend of Zelda Wii U: 2015 release not a “priority”, skipping E3

    The Legend of Zelda franchise producer Eiji Aonuma is featured in the latest video update on the status of The Legend of Zelda for Wii U, stating a 2015 release is no longer a “number one priority” for the team. While Aonuma never specifically says the game has been delayed into 2016, the announcement confirms […]

  • Destiny gameplay designer exits for Bethesda

    Destiny’s senior gameplay designer Josh Hamrick announced on Twitter overnight he would be leaving the company in a week’s time for Bethesda. Hamrick joined Bungie in 2009 after working two years at Midway Austin, where he created multiplayer maps, modified single-player levels, and other designer functions. He was in charge of fixing bug in code […]

  • What to expect from the Call of Duty Championship this weekend

    Just settling down to the Call of Duty Championship this weekend? Here’s a rundown of today’s matches and what else to expect over the next three days. The Call of Duty Championship is taking place in LA this weekend until Sunday, with 32 four-player teams battling it out for a prize pot of $1 million. […]

  • MLB 15 The Show video highlights improved graphics, updated grass patterns

    Sony has released a video for MLB 15 The Show which provides a look at graphical improvements made to the game. Along with the visual upgrade over MLB 14 The Show, the game contains new minor league stadiums, dynamic sun generated in real-time, and upgraded grass patterns which reflect each stadium’s unique look. MLB 15 […]

  • Valve to offer HTC Vive Developer Edition free to qualified developers

    Valve has said it will offer the HTC Vive Developer Edition for free to qualified developers in an effort to buoy projects before the tech launches commercially. Surgeon Simulator developer Bossa Studios and The Room studio Fireproof Games are just some of the developers which already have a free Vive in-hand. According to Valve’s Doug […]

  • DriveClub gameplay video features MotorStorm’s off-road buggies

    Some gameplay footage of MotorStorm’s off-road buggies in DriveClub has surfaced. Pictures of the buggies were shown on the Japanese PlayStation Blog earlier this month, which considering the game was developed by Evolution Studios – which developed MotorStorm – this isn’t too much of a surprise. The buggies were first spotted by Videogamer, which pulled […]

  • Mortal Kombat X live-action TV spot features the track Chop Suey

    The TV sport for Mortal Kombat X has been released, and not only does it contain a “spontaneous fight circle” taking over an entire city, but it features the System of a Down track Chop Suey. Mortal Kombat X will be released on PC, PlayStation 3, PS4, Xbox 360 and Xbox One April 14. The […]

  • Bloodborne Forbidden Woods progression bug caused by multiplayer summon

    A progression bug in Bloodborne is in the works, according to Sony and From Software. The issue occurs when players activate a multiplayer session in the Forbidden Woods using the Sinister Resonant Bell or Small Resonant Bell. It also appears the Lunarium Key won’t appear because of the multiplayer bug, and without the key you […]

  • Yo-Kai Watch game franchise has sold over 7 million copies

    The Yo-Kai Watch IP has sold over 7 million copies, according to developer Level-5. The figure included both physical and digital download sales. Yo-Kai Watch 3 will be unveiled during Level-5 Vision 2015 next month. The first title is in the works for the west but is still without a release window. Thanks, Gematsu.

  • Bloodborne trademark returned to Sony after accidentally losing it

    In case you were worried or anything, Sony has once again obtained the Bloodborne trademark. Earlier this week it was revealed that Sony mistakenly abandoned the Bloodborne trademark along with four others registered with US Patent and Trademark Office: Guns Up!, Kill Strain; How Games Were Made to Sound, and No Heroes Allows: No Puzzles […]

  • GTA 5 PC official trailer coming next week, 15 new screenshots released

    New PC screenshots of GTA 5 have been released along with word of a new trailer coming on Monday. The screens below are from the PC version and you can view them in 4K glory over on Rockstar Newswire. The PC version of GTA 5 releases on April 14.

  • PSN real-time server status page launching in Europe soon

    PlayStation users in Europe will soon have its own a PSN Service Status Indicator. It was released earlier this month in North America. The indicator makes it easier to check whether PlayStation services are down or running as planned. This includes account management, PlayStation Now, the store, social services, etc. Sony told Eurogamer the service […]

  • Exclusivity contract prevents Bioware from revealing Dragon Age: Inquisition DLC release on PS4

    Bioware is unable to discuss when the Jaws of Hakkon DLC for Dragon Age: Inquisition will arrive on platforms other than PC and Xbox One. According to various tweets from executive producer Mark Darrah, due to the exclusivity contract between EA and Microsoft, the studio is unable to announce a release date for PlayStation 3 […]

  • LEGO Batman 3 demo, Namco Museum, more added to North American eShop

    Nintendo has updated the North American end of the eShop with a demo for LEGO Batman 3, Namco Museum on Wii U Virtual Console, and various sales. Below is the full update. Nintendo eShop Dot Arcade – Wii U LEGO Ninjago – 3Ds LEGO Batman 3: Beyond Gotham Demo – Wii U Harvest Moon: The […]

  • Square Enix’s Easter Surprise bundle contains five mystery PC games

    Square Enix offering another mystery bundle to customers in the UK, which comes with five mystery PC games for £3.99. As before, customers will be unaware of the games they are purchasing in the mystery bundle, but the bundle contains triple-A titles worth £40 combined. One of Square’s previous mystery bundles contained Tomb Raider, Just […]

  • From Software’s PSone game Shadow Tower coming to PSN

    Shadow Tower, the first-person action-RPG developed for the original PlayStation by From Software, will be released on PlayStation Network. In the 1998 title, players took on the role of a mercenary who has returned home to the Holy Land of Zeptar to find the place has been sucked into the Underworld. He must use the […]

  • PlayStation TV gets price cut in the UK, now £44.99

    PlayStation TV has received a price cut in the UK. After several retailers started offering the console for less than the RRP of £84.99, users on DealSpwn began to wonder whether this is an official price cut, and not just regular deals or stock clearance. Sony later confirmed the new price of £44.99. “Starting from […]

  • Fast & Furious expansion for Forza Horizon 2 is now available, for free

    You can download Forza Horizon 2 expansion Fast & Furious starting right now. Forza Horizon 2 Presents Fast & Furious is available to download now through Xbox Live for Xbox One and Xbox 360. The expansion is standalone, so you don’t need to own Forza Horizon 2 to play it. It’s also free from now […]

  • Fire-based weapons come to PayDay 2 with the Butcher’s BBQ Pack

    The 20th DLC for PayDay 2, the Butcher’s BBQ Pack, is now available on Steam. The DLC will run you $4.99/€4.99 and features: Piglet Grenade Launcher, 12G Steakout Shotgun and Mk1 Flamethrower Molotov cocktails and incendiary ammo Four new masks, patterns, materials and achievements The Butcher’s BBQ Pack is another co-development between Overkill and Croatian […]

  • Lords of the Fallen developer offers Hideo Kojima a job

    Amid the current turmoil between Hideo Kojima and publisher Konami, one studio has offered the legendary designer a position. Lords of the Fallen developer Deck 13 took to Twitter to extend a job offer to Hideo Kojima. Dear Mr. @HIDEO_KOJIMA_EN In case you are currently searching, we have an open position as Head of Game […]

  • Destiny Xur update: should you buy MIDA Multi Tool?

    The question on every Destiny player’s lips today. And the answer, supplied by resident Destiny expert Paul Davies, is… Yes! We asked Paul whether or not he thought Xur’s Exotic weapon this week was worth the 23 Strange Coins. Here’s what he said: “It was already a great gun to own for PVP owing to […]

  • Final Fantasy 15 has an all-male cast to make it “more approachable”

    According to Final Fantasy 15 director Hajime Tabata, the main cast of the game is all-male because it makes the game “more approachable.” Final Fantasy 15 director Hajime Tabata spoke to Gamespot about the reason for his choice of making the core cast an all-male affair. “Speaking honestly, an all-male party feels almost more approachable […]

  • Hearthstone Blackrock Mountain is coming April 2

    Blizzard has given Hearthstone expansion Blackrock Mountain a solid release date. Hearthstone’s Blackrock Mountain adventure pack will be released April 2 in the Americas region, and April 3 in Europe, Korea, Taiwan, and China. Blackrock Depths is the first wing to be released, others will follow one week apart. Other than the 31 new cards, […]

  • Bloodborne: if you can’t load your save after installing firmware 2.50, this will help

    If you’re having issues loading your Bloodborne save after applying firmware update 2.50 to your PS4, this should help you out. Reddit user KBALLZZ encountered an issue after installing update 2.50 on his PlayStation 4. Bloodborne started reinstalling the day one patch again and when it was done he couldn’t continue his game or load […]

  • Use this code to get 10% off on PSN purchases

    Sony is offering a 10% discount coupon to anyone looking to buy games on PlayStation Store this weekend. Sony’s latest discount coupon code is here. You’ll receive 10% off your cart total when buying from the PSN Store. The offer is not valid on purchases made on PS Vita, PlayStation TV, PSP, or in-game stores. […]

  • Dark Souls 2: Scholar of the First Sin upgrade path announced, system specs revealed

    Dark Souls 2: Scholar of the First Sin will offer returning customers a chance to upgrade at a discounted price. Those who already own Dark Souls 2 on Steam and are interested in picking up the Scholar of the First Sin edition will be happy to know that publisher Bandai Namco is offering them an […]

  • Bloodborne: this is what happens when you have 40 Insight

    Insight is one of the currencies in Bloodborne, but it’s also a mechanic that affects the gameplay. There are MASSIVE SPOILERS below, so turn back now or one of Bloodborne’s gameplay mechanics will be SPOILED for you. Just like Blood Echoes in Bloodborne, Insight is used to purchase certain items from vendors in the game. […]

  • Phase two of Xbox One April update brings voice messages, dedicated servers for party chat, more

    The second phase of the April update for Xbox One is now open to members of the Preview programme and and it looks like there are even more features in store. Phase one of Xbox One’s April firmware update started a few days ago with improvements to party chat and achievements notifications. Today, phase two […]

  • GTA 5′s graphical “downgrade” is a bug, will be fixed in upcoming patch

    As of patch 1.8 for GTA 5 on PlayStation 4 and Xbox One, a few graphical issues have cropped up leading some to believe there has been a stealth downgrade to the game’s overall graphics. Over the past couple of days, Reddit went nuts over a video showing what appears to be a downgrade to […]

  • Destiny: Xur location and inventory for March 27, 28 – MIDA Multi-Tool edition

    Xur: Agent of the Nine has arrived at The Tower in Destiny to rid you of your Strange Coins. Xur: Agent of the Nine has once again made it to Destiny’s Tower to sell you Exotic weapons and gear in exchange for Strange Coins and Motes of Light. For this weekend, Xur can be found […]

  • Destiny vault space upgrade will have enough room for every Exotic

    Destiny is finally getting the vault space upgrade players have been begging for almost since launch week. Destiny players can currently use vault space to store 20 pieces of amour, 20 weapons and 20 general item stacks. In the latest Bungle Weekly Update, the developer revealed that as of patch 1.1.2, due before House of […]

  • Half-Life 2: Update mod applies some sparkle to the original title

    Half-Life 2: Update will be available tomorrow, and thanks to the modding community, those who own the vanilla version of the game can apply a visual update to the 2004 title. The comparison video shows you the differences between the original version, and the version with Half-Life 2: Update applied. Here’s what the mod includes: […]

  • Neverwinter MMO can now be pre-downloaded on Xbox One

    You can now pre-download the free-to-play Neverwinter MMO on Xbox One. The game launches on March 31, but you will still need an Xbox Live Gold account to play it. Based on the Dungeons & Dragons franchise, the game can be downloaded from the Xbox Store.

  • Destiny of Spirits will go offline starting next month

    Sony will be ending service for Destiny of Spirits starting next month, Sony has announced. The free-to-play Destiny of Spirits was released in late March 2014 on Vita, and tasked players with collecting supernatural forces appropriate to their geographical location, and then trading them with others online. Gravity Rush spirits were added to the game […]

  • MotoGP 15 is out this spring on PC, last and current-gen consoles

    MotoGP 15 will be released in June on PC, PlayStation 3, PS4, Xbox 360 and Xbox One, Milestone has announced. Bike, rider and team customization are part of the latest release in the franchise, along with time-trials and enhanced career options. The game features over 20 bike models divided into three classes: MotoGP, Moto 2 […]

  • Cities: Skylines players should check out Nakatomi Plaza and Wayne Enterprises

    Nakatomi Plaza and Wayne Enterprises can now be yours in Cities: Skylines. Die Hard fans will be familiar with Nakatomi Plaza. Those who have never watched the first film and live in Los Angeles know it by its real-life name, FOX Plaza. It was created by Enos Shenk and is available through Steamworks. Those who […]

  • Call of Duty franchise has sold 175M copies, players have thrown 300B grenades

    With the Call of Duty Championship kicking off tomorrow, Activision has sent over a series infographic full of interesting figures such as the number of copies sold over 10 years and how many grenades players have tossed. According to the stats below, the Call of Duty franchise has sold 175 million copies across all platforms […]

  • Save up to 75% on select SEGA games on Steam this weekend

    SEGA has put many of its games on sale through Steam this weekend and the firm has also announced Eastside Hockey Manager is now available through Early Access. The sale runs through March 30. The entire Total War, Company of Heroes and Dawn of War back catalogs are discounted 75% and all associated DLC is […]

  • Batman: Arkham Knight PC confirmed as digital download-only in UK

    Batman: Arkham Knight will indeed be a download-only title on PC in the UK, Warner Bros. has confirmed to VG247. Batman: Arkham Knight will be available as both a physical and digital release for PS4, Xbox One and PC in North America and Europe. Again, in the UK, the PC version will be “available as […]

  • Rainbow Six Siege release date set for October per GameStop Italy – report

    GameStop Italy may have let the release date for Rainbow Six Siege slip if a recent listing is accurate. According to the listing, the game will release on October 16. While this could be a placeholder date, October 16 is a Friday in the UK, the usual day new releases land at retail. The release […]

  • Watch the $1 million Call of Duty Championship right here

    The The Call of Duty Championship takes place this weekend, and you can watch all the action as it unfolds right here. The event takes place in Los Angeles tomorrow March 27 and runs through March 29, and the livestreams are below. 32 teams from five continents and 11 countries will be competing in Call […]

  • Battlefield Hardline: Battlefest kicks off this weekend with Double XP

    A new season of Battlefest kicks off this weekend, and starting today, you will earn Double XP in Battlefield Hardline. Battlefest for Hardline is similar to the event held for Battlefield 4 last year. For the entire month of April and into May, in-game events and competitions will be held by the developers and player […]

  • Don’t forget: the GTA 5 PC pre-order bonus cutoff is March 31

    Just a friendly reminder to those planning on purchasing GTA 5 for PC: you have until March 31 to pre-order if you want all the bonuses on offer. Those who pre-order will be handed $1 million in-game cash plus a bonus $300,000. It is split between GTA 5 and GTA Online: $500,000 for Grand Theft […]

  • Games with Gold offers doubled for April – six games instead of three

    Microsoft’s April Games with Gold collection is being doubled. For the month Xbox Live Gold members will receive six instead of three games free. Here’s what’s on offer: Pool Nation FX: Available all month on Xbox One Child of Light: Available all month on Xbox One Gears of War: Judgment: Available from April 1-15 on […]

  • Pokemon players can grab a code for Shiny Charizard at GAME in April

    Pokemon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire players along with Pokemon X and Y owners can grab a free, rare Shiny Charizard from April 3 at one of GAME’s 320 stores in the UK. The redeemable codes for the character will be made available upon request and no purchase is necessary. Those who pop into one […]

  • F1 2015 will arrive on PC, PS4 and Xbox One in June, includes Mexico circuit

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  • Mortal Kombat X video confirms Liu Kang as playable character

    Liu Kang has been confirmed as a playable character in Mortal Kombat X in the latest video. You’ll also notice Bo’ Rai Cho in there as well. In the Shaolin trailer above you also get a look at Kung Lao and Kung Jin who is new to the series. Apparently, Raiden’s past champions of the […]

  • Short teaser for Star Wars: Battlefront shows the Battle of Hoth

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  • Pillars of Eternity releases today – get all the review scores here

    Pillars of Eternity, which still stands as the second most-funded video game on Kickstarter, finally releases today. It’s also getting some rather positive reviews scores, which we’ve rounded up for you. The isometric, party-based RPG from Obsidian Entertainment was one of the first video game projects to take to Kickstarter, and hit its $1.1 million […]

  • Take an in-depth look at Evolve’s Behemoth monster and four new hunters

    Evolve’s fourth monster, the Behemoth, as well as the four new hunters are shown off in new gameplay video. Evolve’s latest gameplay trailer gives everyone a good look at each of the four new hunters and the massive Behemoth monster. The hunters can be bought either separately or though the hunting pass, while the monster […]

  • PS4 firmware update 2.50 causing issues with Killzone: Shadow Fall

    The suspend/resume feature in PlayStation 4′s 2.50 firmware update is causing some issues with Killzone: Shadow Fall. Killzone: Shadow Fall developer Guerrilla has said that the game is experiencing some issues in some instance where the suspend/resume feature is used. The timing of when players put the game in suspend mode does have an effect, […]

  • Bungie on Destiny matchmaking: “We believe there’s no substitute for a pre-made team”

    Crazy though this may seem, it’s possible that Destiny shipped according to plan. History points to community as a crucial component, far from the contingency that many now suspect. Paul Davies spoke to Bungie for clarity. “The community always engineers the best solutions for bringing players together. While Matchmaking is a great resource for introducing […]

  • Bloodborne works with suspend/resume, but only offline

    PlayStation 4′s newly-added suspend/resume feature works with Bloodborne as you’d expect, but only while offline. PlayStation 4 received the long-awaited suspend/resume feature today as part of firmware 2.50, and people are starting to test it out with various games. Bloodborne does work with the feature, but only if you play offline. Playing online is arguably […]

  • This is what Crossy Road looks like in first-person

    Crossy Road is fun and addictive. But in first-person, it’s mostly frightening. YouTube user Andy Front Films likes Crossy Road so much he decided to show off what it would look like in first-person. If crossing roads quickly and watching around for cars and trains, all of this as the camera chases you felt intense […]