PS4 won’t require always online connection and won’t block used- Yoshida

Saturday, 1st June 2013 22:33 GMT By Stephany Nunneley

PS4 will not require an always online connection and, it will not block the use of second hand titles. This was said back in February, by Sony Worldwide boss Shuhei Yoshida during a round table after the PS4 reveal. Kotaku also reported this back in February and again this week. Any DRM on used games will be left up to the publisher in question, according to Yoshida. Hope this clears everything up.



  1. heyvc


    #1 2 years ago
  2. SlayerGT

    But why? Why wouldn’t PS4 have those things Shuhei? Cause in approximately 2 to 3 years won’t fucking matter. #digitalrevolution

    #2 2 years ago
  3. Templar_Dante

    Im going to boycott any publisher that wants to implement DRM on PS4.
    If you bend to their will today….
    Remember the horse armor? Multiply that BS by 100.
    It will get worse.

    #3 2 years ago
  4. Phoenixblight

    Good for Sony for not making a standard to block used games and leaving it in the developers court to do so.

    #4 2 years ago
  5. SlayerGT

    @3 Do you see the irony in your stance on this issue??

    #5 2 years ago
  6. SplatteredHouse

    That would mean we ONLY now have to find published statements from each individual publisher on their used games stance! D:
    As if things weren’t complicated enough with Xbox for new games consoles!

    Further to @3′s point:

    ““Truthfully, the way that copyright law ends up getting written in this country, neither consumers rights nor the health of the industry are taken into account. It’s usually a handful of rights holders and whatever they’re able to push through.”

    It may come down to how much consumers are willing to let these corporations get away with when they push for stronger laws guarding copyright. “People in forums can say that they should get the rights of first-sale, but… are you going to stop buying video games? That’s the question,” Higgins continued.

    Because if you’re not, then corporations have no disincentive to push for more favorable copyright legislation. Higgins doesn’t think this is something to be taken lightly.”

    #6 2 years ago
  7. Dark

    This is probably the best thing we could hoped for.

    EA and Ubisoft will be the first to block used games.

    #7 2 years ago
  8. salarta

    Title makes it sound like Sony said they won’t prevent the prevention of used games from happening, when the article really means to say that Sony will allow used games.

    It seems strange to me to re-report news that was already reported, but meh, too tired to think much about it. Still good news.

    #8 2 years ago
  9. sh4dow

    “Won’t block DRM”? Well… why would any company block DRM?
    Hell, HOW would you even “block” DRM? Even if they were to not allow the use of DRM in the first place, that would hardly qualify as “blocking”.

    #9 2 years ago
  10. Hcw87

    So basically we know as much about Sony’s policies as we do about Microsoft’s. No real point in reporting anything about this until after E3 when we actually get hard facts.

    #10 2 years ago
  11. ps3fanboy

    now i can put out a well said “I TOLD YOU SO”… suck it up xbots!

    #11 2 years ago
  12. noamlol2

    shafty source
    they didn’t state anything new

    bah to this

    #12 2 years ago
  13. Cobra951

    @9: Right, the headline makes no sense. Good thing that the body of the story spells it all out properly.

    @3: That goes without saying, for those of us who find the XB1 completely unacceptable for the same reasons. If I’m not willing to submit to system-wide blocking DRM, I sure as hell won’t submit to game-by-game blocking DRM either.

    #13 2 years ago
  14. TheLastDodo

    I think I would prefer this method, leave it up to each publisher.

    Quite a few big publishers still don’t go in for the Online Pass malarkey to counter used games, for ex. (to my knowledge but feel free to correct), Bethesda, Activision, Take-Two/2K (not in any R* or Borderlands anyway) , Capcom, Konami, Sega, Nintendo.

    #14 2 years ago
  15. Malmer

    So thier stance is exactly the same as Microsoft’s then? They won’t block used games or require an always on connection either. They need to be way more specific than this.

    #15 2 years ago
  16. For Blood


    Digital is not even owning it. Like Warren Spector said, “you can’t own 1s and 0s.”

    #16 2 years ago
  17. For Blood


    Microsoft technically requires an always online connection. You always have to go online once every 24 hours to continue to use the system offline.

    #17 2 years ago
  18. SlayerGT

    #16 Then in the future, dealing with video games, you won’t “own” any.

    #18 2 years ago
  19. Fethennour

    @9 : Have you ever heard of a company called “Electronic Arts” ?
    @15 : Like #17 said, Xbox One needs to get connected at least once every 24 hours if you want to use it. So that’s pretty damn close to “always online”, and that, my dear, sucks. That’s why any customer with a minimum of common sense would NOT buy a Xbox One.
    Remember : “it got 99 problems and its name is One”

    #19 2 years ago
  20. For Blood


    Where I live in California, I have one choice in internet and it sucks and is too expensive. So it looks like I am getting a PS4.

    #20 2 years ago
  21. Hcw87

    Nothing is set in stone.

    “While Phil [Harrison] discussed many potential scenarios around games on Xbox One, today we have only confirmed that we designed Xbox One to enable our customers to trade in and resell games at retail,” a Microsoft rep said. “There have been reports of a specific time period — those were discussions of potential scenarios, but we have not confirmed any details today, nor will we be.”

    Besides, once every 24 hours isn’t even close to being ”allways online”, so Sony could implement something like this aswell.

    #21 2 years ago
  22. spazman

    Sony are ticking the right boxes, what concerns me is the build quailty of the damn thing. I now own a heat gun because of sony.

    #22 2 years ago
  23. YoungZer0

    Don’t understand some of the more negative comments here. It would be business as usual.

    #23 2 years ago
  24. Shuklar

    @9 – “HOW would you even “block” DRM? ”

    They’d ‘block’ it by not certifying the title for use on their system. It’s simply poorly worded.

    #24 2 years ago
  25. Lloytron

    @22, same here – in all my years I’ve never needed one, had to buy one and used the damn thing four or five times before retiring my PS3

    #25 2 years ago
  26. Cobra951

    “Besides, once every 24 hours isn’t even close to being ”allways online”, so Sony could implement something like this aswell.”

    @21: I’m sorry, but yes it is the same thing. It means I need to ask permission every day to use what belongs to me. That is every bit as unacceptable to me as needing to ask continuously.

    #26 2 years ago
  27. spazman

    @25, my condolences. I remember a time when the ps2 was just a tool to play great games on.

    #27 2 years ago
  28. positiveemotions

    I knew this awhile now but my mind was blury about it now its clear but i think we are safe with ps4 i mean ubisoft didnt say anything about drms but i think EA did tho

    #28 2 years ago
  29. aprotosis

    @17 @19 @26
    This is what sucks about “news” sites spinning things that other sites report and wanting to drum up hits with poor article titles. A great example is that 24 offline line. It came from an interview done by Kotaku and it was actually immediately taken back by the MS reps. Though they published it anyways and this fed the rumor mill plenty. So why did they publish it if it was taken back? Here is Stephen Totilo’s explanation:

    “We published the 24-hour thing, because he’d said it, because it was clear he wasn’t sure but that it presented what seemed like an acceptable time duration for an offline mode as far as at least one top Xbox exec was concerned.” –

    Even though MS has walked back a lot of poor quotes, and have issued official stances on all the issues gamers are pretending to care about, the damage has already been done and the narrative already set. Right now the policies of both MS and Sony are pretty similar with a whole lot of “We will give you more information later”.

    #29 2 years ago
  30. Francis O

    Sony fanboys shouldn’t rejoice yet. Publishers can still implement all the DRM and second hand used game BS if they want. ‘

    You know EA will…who will be next to follow.

    #30 2 years ago
  31. merrc

    I understand that EA would be the first to implement such DRM, but after they abolished the online pass, they’d look pretty silly trying to use it again.

    #31 2 years ago
  32. Clupula

    I can’t imagine any smaller companies would do this. I think we’d definitely see EA and Activision do it. Other than them, though, maybe Ubisoft and Betheseda. That’s it, I would imagine.

    #32 2 years ago
  33. fuchikoma

    Sony said long ago they wouldn’t block used games. The XBone doesn’t block used games either, technically… there are just conditions on running them. What I want to know is whether or not, like the XBone, the system will need to rely on an external source in order to run a game you have on physical media? That’s the dealbreaker for me – used games are just a casualty of that.

    #33 2 years ago

    @30 – Ubisoft and Activision are next.

    #34 2 years ago
  35. Maabren

    Nice, Sony take a stand. And those shitty publishers who use DRM won’t get my money.

    MS, don’t listen to that assbag EA and those yerk off ideas they whisper in your ears. Make XO DRM-free.

    Both MS and Sony should give us consoles free for any kind of DRM-shit.

    #35 2 years ago
  36. NightCrawler1970



    ******** MONEY ****** And the hell with the costumers, 1 whiner, and user will BANNED(according origin) about refund for SimCity 5…

    15 dollar for 1 lousy map —–> ACTIVISION
    UBISOFT maxed out with DRM and STEAM to be sure it’s not pirated game…

    Is like put 2 condoms on ya weener to make sure that woman willn’t get pregnant!!!!

    There are other game-devs that bring good games on the market like Rock-Star, and others non DRM and non GREEDY…

    And yes, PS4 will do better this time, now hopefully they have enought on stock to sell them….

    #36 2 years ago
  37. Rocketbilly

    When i click through all the sources being linked for this story it ends up coming back to Jason Schreier at Kotaku. And his article appears to simply be him deciding that Sony’s previous statements amount to a declaration that they won’t require online or have DRM. The thing is, everyone reported those original comments and the way they were worded did NOT amount to sufficient clarification regarding the specific restrictions that Microsoft has introduced.

    TL;DR: I would love for this to be true, but are we sure this isn’t just Jason Schreier from Kotaku making up a story for hits… just as he has done in the past?

    #37 2 years ago

    ^ No. We’re not.

    #38 2 years ago
  39. jldoom

    As much as I gamed on consoles this gen, building my own gaming PC is looking like a more attractive option for me in the future. I’ll still wait until after E3 to reserve my judgement though.

    #39 2 years ago
  40. Irani

    Shame To Sony Shame

    #40 2 years ago
  41. Christopher Jack

    In the past when things like this have been left into the publishers hands, they’ve never really done much with it. Just look at online gaming for the Wii U, those that actually support it are half arsed.

    #41 2 years ago
  42. Mjorh

    Sony cares about gamers n we should appreciate it , but publishers…Money!

    #42 2 years ago
  43. CaptPierce

    This was honestly the LAST thread I thought I’d see say anything negative about this, or at the very least pull random “this company will still use DRM” scenarios.

    #43 2 years ago
  44. Kalain

    After reading the source article on Kotaku, Sony hasn’t said that they won’t be using their OWN DRM, instead they won’t block publishers DRM. They haven’t said anything, officially, about their OWN DRM methods.

    As for a publisher, look at it this way:

    Which console would you put your games out on, one that does have built in Anti-Used games restrictions, or one that doesn’t?

    Also, Sony doesn’t care about you as a gamer. They only care about the profit they make from selling you their products. If you believe that they do care, then you have been pulled in by the PR hype machine…

    #44 2 years ago
  45. Gnosis

    @42: Oh goody, how incredibly subtle and smart… Swearing and insulting in a different language.

    So basically they’re going to keep the status quo. Well, I don’t mind. There’s no doubt that several publishers will make use of it, but at least it’s up to them to decide. Actually, now that I think about it, it’s quite a smart move from Sony. They’re not the ones who will be blamed. Well, except they put DRM on their own games, of course. But if I understand this correctly, most of the time ppl will be pissed at the publishers, because technically Sony doesn’t have anything to do with it. In contrary to the case of MS.

    Well, wait and see. I hope, the E3 will clear up a few things. Last few weeks were confusing as fuck in that regard.

    #45 2 years ago
  46. DrDamn

    I think there will be very little difference between the approaches of MS and Sony in reality. The big difference currently is in communication. Let’s see what actually happens. I’m personally leaning PS4 wards, but a little reality check here, EA are doing away with online passes. Who does that leave as the major supporter of these things on current gen machines? (clue it begins with an S and ends with a Y).

    #46 2 years ago
  47. Cort

    People have been insisting every year since 2006 that physical media would be dead in 1-2 years. I remember being mocked five years ago when I said Blu-ray would not only last a full generation but also turn out to be a perfectly viable and successful platform and outsell DVD within a few years.

    I was right and we’re all still waiting for this fabled “digital revolution”. Maybe in 2020.

    #47 2 years ago
  48. masoud123

    only PC-LOL

    Just play on PC

    Thanks for the news

    #48 2 years ago
  49. Cort

    Of course, there are people commenting on this site today who five years ago said that Blu-ray would crash and burn and take PlayStation – and maybe even Sony – with it. I won’t name and shame.

    #49 2 years ago
  50. GwynbleiddiuM

    @46 Don’t mind that idiot, already reported him to Pat. He’ll be dealt with soon.

    #50 2 years ago
  51. Kieran

    I think we can assume there will be a fee alright !! but hasnt EA stopped online passes but isint that similar to DRM ?? or did they drop it for this ?? and i love ubisofts games even doh i pay for them second hand cause i just have the money anymore !! i would love to see an article title on june 10th saying no second hand fee for PS4 but its looking unlikely now

    #51 2 years ago
  52. opario

    I m persian and ilove sony

    شرم بر ایرانی بی فرهنگ

    #52 2 years ago
  53. NocturnalB

    “Besides, once every 24 hours isn’t even close to being ”allways online”

    You can twist the words however you like. Let me ask you this, if that isn’t “allways (always) online”; what do YOU call a console that will cease to function completely unless it has communicated with a remote server via a network connection at least once every 24 hours? Just curious what YOU call that. And if you say “Well it’s not always online.”, then you are in denial, plain and simple.

    #53 2 years ago
  54. redwood

    I don’t get it.. this was cleared up long ago.. why is this reported again? o_O

    #54 2 years ago
  55. Clupula

    @55 – Because a lot of Xbots were claiming that Sony would pull the exact same policy that Microsoft has, so it had to be asked again, just to deconfirm the rumor mill.

    #55 2 years ago
  56. Clupula

    @45 – Welcome to the business world, genius. NO company cares about anything but making money. However, some companies, like Sony realize that they can make the most money by listening to their customers and treating them with respect. It’s not about caring. It’s about realizing that doing a good job means repeat business. Do you think Microsoft cares about you? Nintendo? Capcom? EA? Ubisoft? Toyota? Samsung? Chevrolet?

    No company does. But some basically say, “This is how things are going to be and you’re going to like it.” While others say, “What can we do to ensure repeat business?”

    #56 2 years ago
  57. Joe Musashi

    Amongst a sliver of level-headed comments, there’s two dismaying mentalities openly on display in this discussion:

    1) Those in one camp who are clearly hoping that, if their platfom is blighted with something universally disapproved, the other platform will be blighted in the same way. Any arguments or implications that follow about ‘caring for consumers’ are clearly untrue – it’s nothing more than immature point-scoring.

    2) Those working on the horrible “all men are potential rapists” logic. Pre-emptively damning and slandering entities – not because they have done something but because they might. Truly horrible and a recklessly manipulative train of thought.

    PS: I buy my games new. I tend not to buy stuff day 1 because if I leave it a week / shop around (or, crazy idea, do both!) I can usually buy a new release at a heavily discounted price. This requires a few ounces of effort and a small degree of patience. A dash of common-sense doesn’t hurt either.


    #57 2 years ago
  58. redwood

    @56 but sony hasn’t reconfirmed it.. so i think the jury is still out on this. but AFAI think, sony is gonna leave it to the publisher i.e EA and EA is gonna pull the same trick it’s doing with mS

    #58 2 years ago
  59. redwood

    meaning 24 hour routine verification mandatory before play

    #59 2 years ago
  60. Moonwalker1982

    The jury is still indeed out on this, so this is all a bit misleading. It’s not even set in stone what MS is going to do either. They have said they are listening to what people say and nothing is certain yet. We’ll just have to wait and see.

    #60 2 years ago
  61. Clupula

    @60 – That is seriously not going to happen with Sony. Maybe EA games on PS4 may require you to be online, but don’t they already on the PS3?

    Outside of the big three publishers, I don’t think it will be something we see on PS4, at all, while with the Xbone, from big publishers to small publishers, it will be required by Microsoft, anyway.

    #61 2 years ago
  62. Oynox Slider

    I really hope, EA will release their future titles exclusively for the Xbox… Maybe that happens with Mirror’s Edge 2 and Dragon Age 3. But honestly, I do not care about that. I see no point in buying next generations right at the release.

    #62 2 years ago
  63. Djoenz

    I havent played a single EA game tht requires people to be online on PS3. Sure lame prompts show up asking you to log in on Origin, but its not mandatory.

    For me personally I am not always online. I played offline a lot of times. I even thought I lost trophies that way till I synced them.

    #63 2 years ago
  64. redwood

    @62 .. I really hope it does not, I, for one, don’t have to worry anyway cause i don’t play too many EA games and i don’t play COD.. i mostly play sony games and other jap games. Anyway let’s see how this all goes..

    #64 2 years ago
  65. Clupula

    @64 – The logging in to Origin is exactly what I’m talking about. You can’t play several of their games fully, without it.

    #65 2 years ago
  66. Clupula

    @63 – So, you hope for exclusivity on systems you’re not going to buy. Makes a ton of sense…

    #66 2 years ago
  67. Oynox Slider

    @68 Indeed. No not really, you are right, of course.

    I just said that because I do not believe that Sony won’t have any kind of DRM feature in their console. I’m really annoyed by the press right now, because Microsoft is bashed everywhere. M$ also confirmed after their press event, that they will support the used-games market. And Sony basically confirmed the same now.

    #67 2 years ago
  68. MadFlavour

    Gonna buy one now, not because I want one, but as a fuck you to Microshit.

    #68 2 years ago
  69. Ireland Michael

    @70 We still don’t know if Sony aren’t going to do the same thing. This whole thing is very vague as it is. We’re just going to have to wait and see. Here’s hoping journalists will be willing to asking the hard questions.

    #69 2 years ago
  70. Irani

    @53 Why do you abuse?

    #70 2 years ago
  71. junguler

    i’ll be picking up ps4 either way and probably a vita too
    i like how they respect their customers

    #71 2 years ago
  72. Clupula

    Shouldn’t suggesting that people who work at a game company should actually be murdered be considered the type of thing that gets you banned?

    #72 2 years ago
  73. Ireland Michael

    @75 That would imply they care.

    #73 2 years ago


    I think the fact that you regard a global corporation as an equivalent with human beings is both woefully revealing, and indicative of the psychology behind the essence of fanboyism.

    If you can’t brush off a simple comment like that (from a non-native English speaker), maybe you really have drunk a little too much of the infamous Kool-Aid…

    #74 2 years ago
  75. Clupula

    @77 – I’m sure you’d be calling for the same thing if he said Microsoft. And you know what? So would I. Or Nintendo. Or EA. Or whatever. For him to be encouraging ANYONE to be killed should result in an automatic ban. I know for you, as long as it’s Sony getting spoken of like that, it’s perfectly okay. But for me, I think that type of talk should result in a removal, no matter who he is talking about.

    #75 2 years ago
  76. ps3fanboy

    @72 Idiot, you have been reported to Pat. You will be dealt with soon.

    #76 2 years ago
  77. redwood

    @77 Kill DRM!! death to DRM!!

    #77 2 years ago

    I’m sure you’d be calling for the same thing if he said Microsoft. And you know what? So would I.

    Actually, I wouldn’t.

    For a number of reasons.

    First of all, I don’t read, or care about what immature trolls say in general.

    Secondly, I don’t care who says what about Microsoft in particular.

    Thirdly, I understand that people whose first language isn’t English, often speak in their own language using English words, not knowing that the meaning just doesn’t translate.

    Fourthly, and perhaps most important of all, I understand that it’s impossible to kill global corporation that was never ‘alive’ in the first place.

    By the by, do you know my gaming history?

    Perhaps it’s more diverse than yours…

    Atari 2600
    Acorn Electron
    286 IBM PC
    Commodore 64
    Gameboy Color
    PIII 500 PC
    (Numerous gaming PC configurations)
    Xbox 360

    Actually, I’m writing this message on my 4 day old 32″, practically bezel-less Sony BRAVIA, which I’m absolutely delighted with so far, after buying it to replace my 24″ Dell as a 2nd screen for my laptop that I can also plug my 360 into.

    I honestly have nothing against Sony, and I actually give them a huge amount of credit for a number of decisions that they’ve made in the past.

    However, I know what gaming experience I’ve enjoyed more in the past, and why, so obviously I comment on that a lot.

    #78 2 years ago

    Ban @80!

    Ban him with fire!

    #79 2 years ago
  80. redwood

    @82 proof that Giga is actually the alter-ego of Don mattrick!

    #80 2 years ago


    #81 2 years ago
  82. CaptPierce

    Some of these comments reek of fractured ego.

    #82 2 years ago
  83. redwood

    true..people really need to learn to not take these forum debates so seriously..

    #83 2 years ago
  84. Stephany Nunneley

    GOD ALMIGHTY. I CHANGED the title okay? It was result of being irritated and not seeing the mistake after pulling 5 different words out of the title to make it shorter. You guys ever get tired? Seriously. We are exhausted around here – have been since Xbox One week doing 25-30+ posts a day each and E3 is just around the corner so we are only going to get more tired and blind.

    Secondly to those asking why I reported all this “again” it is because I got 4 twitter IMs and two mails on it. And apparently it became a big deal again for some silly reason over the weekend – and every other news site that reported it said: “Hey guess what? We already told you this”. Just like on here.

    Third. I am removing the offending posts which are honestly more or less someone being “Internet silly” and nothing else. Unless I missed something. Anyway – will edit them or delete them, I have yet to decide.

    #84 2 years ago
  85. Stephany Nunneley

    RIGHT. Two comments – the ones I am assuming upset people – have been marked as spam. I also removed one of those: “Hey Harold is amazing and works from home putting things together and makes 100,000,000 a year” posts. So your comment numbers will be off and seem discombobulated.

    #85 2 years ago
  86. redwood

    aaaw crap now look what you did… you all went and pissed off steph!

    @85 steph this year is going to be like this.. so you’d rather just leave em at it :\ it’s the console wars! we all thought we’d never see one again, now we have one, and all the 30 years old are acting like 16 years old kids.. better to leave them at it.

    #86 2 years ago
  87. Stephany Nunneley

    @86 No, not pissed off. Just slightly annoyed is all. I’ll get over it in 5 minutes. ;)

    #87 2 years ago
  88. redwood

    @87 that’s nice to know… best of luck with the E3 coverage.

    #88 2 years ago
  89. MegaGeek1

    This website was never like this when I joined. Its called Internet anonymity, get used to it. People protesting about others subject matter with whining bitch posts are just as bad as the trolls. I can’t believe the audacity of some members, to call out the editors. Get fucking lives people. Its their jobs to post this as “news”. If this was my website I’d ban the lot of you for being god damn juveniles.

    #89 2 years ago
  90. Beta

    @89 +100 :)

    #90 2 years ago
  91. Ireland Michael

    People do need to give Steph a break and stop pointing out the most tediously semantical crap every time they see it. Typos are the worst.

    #91 2 years ago
  92. Clupula

    @78 – And yet, you’ve never owned any Sega systems? For shame!

    #92 2 years ago
  93. Clupula

    @86 – Nah, console wars will exist as long as there are consoles. In fact, if there were no consoles and everybody used computers to game, you’d have PC versus Mac wars, just like the Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo wars of today and the Coleco/Atari/Intellivision wars of my childhood.

    #93 2 years ago
  94. NightCrawler1970

    @78 suplemental

    Atari 1040 ST
    Atari ST2
    Amiga 500
    Amiga 1200(was my favorits)..

    YALL BETTER WATCH OUT WITH STEPH, or she gonna labotomize, and dont ask her for a refund :P

    BTW good article Steph!!! **Thumbs up **

    #94 2 years ago
  95. Clupula

    Anyway, since we’re mentioning what consoles we’ve owned…

    Whatever that Colecovision add-on that allowed you to play Atari 2600 games was called
    Coleco ADAM (yes, I am one of the 10 people who had one of these)
    *Master System
    *Game Gear
    Sega CD

    *The Master System, Gameboy, Game Gear, and PSP were not mine but belonged to people I lived with, so they get asterisks. I’ve played them and in the case of the PSP borrowed it once to pass the time on the road, but never actually owned any of those myself.

    #95 2 years ago
  96. Clupula

    On a side note, even though those are the only systems I’ve owned/had in my home, I have also played every other major system (including the Jaguar, the Virtual Boy, and the TurboGrafix-16), EXCEPT for a 3DO. I’ve never known a single person who owned one. Probably because it was like $800 or something ridiculous, wasn’t it?

    #96 2 years ago

    I miss the pre-PS3/360 E3′s and conferences where games were mysteriously developed and nothing got leaked out. Where they talked about games only(and had a huge shart of sales…I’m looking at you Peter Moore!).
    I don’t know I kinda just feel like developers, Microsoft and Sony have given up and just do it for the money.

    You have to be one delusional puppy to think that any of these companies care about us. If they do things like allow used games or take off always online it’s only because they want more people to buy their console, not because they care. When you get a job you might like it. But at the end of the day you’re just there for the money. Look at landscapers, construction workers. They hate their jobs but it brings in the cash…albeit not a lot but it’s money nonetheless. CEOs, VPs. They love their job but only because it brings in atrocious amounts of money and that’s it. Watch an episode of shark tank and listen to Kevin O’Leary. The guy is a billionaire, all he cares is about having the best product as cheap as possible. It isn’t about the consumers. It’s all about that green paper in your wallet/bank. Always was, always will be.

    #97 2 years ago
  98. NeutralBlade

    I wouldn’t give Sony any praise yet, until they are asked if they will use similar DRM schemes on their system, as the Xbox One has.

    Can the PS4 be played offline permanently, or is there a “phone-home” DRM scheme, similar to the Xbox One?

    Games that require cloud support, are essentially always-on games; which Microsoft attempted to cover up that fact, by boasting about how the cloud can multiply the power of its console.

    Will Sony enforce a rule that all PS4 games that come a physical disc, must be fully functional offline, (local multiplayer available when offline), or will publishers be able to enforce always-on DRM schemes by adding a cloud connection requirement to play?

    A perfect example of this is Simcity, which never required server support to play, (which hackers proved), though EA cooked up a DRM scheme. Their excuse we know well. Our pathetic PCs, simply can’t handle the massive calculations of SimCity! I knew that was bs the moment I heard it, lol.

    Will the PS4 have an unrestricted used game market like the PS3, 360, and Wii U, or will they actually allow publishers to enforce a similar pay wall, similar to what’s implemented in the Xbox One?

    Sony’s excuse is no good, because if you give publishers the ok to restrict used games so they can milk the consumer, publishers will surely do just that.

    Anyone who’s actually followed the industry since Sony’s PS One, would know they are one of the dirtiest players in the game. Sony fanboys gave Microsoft hell over the RROD, but yet, seem to conveniently forget the massive console failures that occurred with both the PS1 and PS2. There was no extended warranty, nor free fix from Sony; you were just screwed and had to pay up. I’d say Microsoft handled the RROD issue quite well, and even though 3rd-gen Jasper (and afterwards) eliminated RROD, the uninformed kept going on and on about it for years, (as if the issue was never resolved), though the issue was fixed long ago.

    (Oh, and before someone claim I’m a Microsoft fanboy, yes, I own a 360, but I also owned a PS1 and PS2; and I will eventually get a PS3. Just because I really don’t like Sony, doesn’t mean I’m going to miss out on gaming experiences I want to enjoy.)

    Currently, I’m more of a PC gamer; so first and for most, so I’ll be doing that more than anything else for now.

    Microsoft showed its true colors for next-gen, and has certainly positioned themselves as the bad guy. I have no plans to get the Xbone, aka Crossbones; which makes me think of the skull and crossbones label on poisonous bottles. Microsoft failed with their reveal, showing features that most gamers simply don’t care about.

    You know what I really don’t like? They choose entertainment over hardware performance. Remember all the side-by-side game comparisons that occurred this gen? Since the PS4 is a more capable system, why would I even want to get a multi-platform game on the Xbox One, when the PS4 version will surely be the superior version every time?

    And using the cloud to bring the Xbone on par with the PS4, will make that game always on, and that simply doesn’t cut it for me. It will take real exclusive DLC, (not timed exclusives), to actually make someone choose the Xbone version over the PS4 version; I know people will choose by the platform they purchased, but knowing the PS4 is more capable, many gamers will simply choose the more capable platform.

    This is different from this gen, because the PS3 never really had a power edge over the 360. All that cell processor talk was just that, and the 360 actually has a more capable gpu.

    Even if Microsoft show some impressive games at E3, many will still be put off by their DRM schemes; and if most of those games are available on the PS4, people will likely just go with that instead.

    If they don’t change their ways, the Xbox One will be a risk of becoming a failure. I’ll just keep up with the news over the next 2 – 3 years, then see if it’s worth getting.

    I will get a Wii U as well, maybe within the next 2 years.

    And as long as Sony doesn’t follow the same path as Microsoft, I’d say the PS4 could possibly be my first purchase, after 2 years has passed. I see no reason to get either next-gen system at launch, (limited games, as the one of the main reasons, and my PC is already at next-gen level), as I will play PC games and current-gen games, until there are console revisions, and a price drop as well.

    Well, that’s all I have to add, just my two cents, and no, I didn’t read most of the previous comments. I know this was a long post, so thanks for your time.

    #98 2 years ago


    Own a SEGA console???

    Come on man, be serious.

    I do have some standards…

    #99 2 years ago
  100. SlayerGT

    @100 Jesus, dude please.

    #100 2 years ago
  101. G1GAHURTZ


    #101 2 years ago
  102. 8thgen

    teh sony is best

    #102 2 years ago
  103. gamemax

    Great news for poor peoples but i don’t care i can buy every best ps4 game brand new don’t like used games i m also buy xbox one because drm not effect on rich persons

    #103 2 years ago
  104. backup

    Death of xboxone and PC gaming

    #104 2 years ago
  105. eddy27

    So still no different from MS as “Xbox ONE Also won’t require “always” online connection and also won’t block used either” it’s all in the wording and until both company’s confirm exactly what they are doing I would ignore it.
    Especially when any news comes from “A SOURCE !!!”
    And “Any DRM on used games will be left up to the publisher” seems the same as “Yes there will be a fee but maybe not directly from us”.

    #105 2 years ago
  106. Gekidami

    How is it no different from MS? Yoshida said clearly there that the PS4 wont have a built-in system wide DRM and games wont need to be registered online by default unless the publisher puts it in place themselves (which is what we’ve currently got). MS on the other hand have said that their DRM applies to all games because its built into the system, all games by default require online registration.

    Why do people keep saying this is still vague and unclear? Did you actually read the sources?

    #106 2 years ago
  107. redwood

    @107 *facepalm* cause not every publisher might follow EA into implementing a useless DRM.. Why because it’s a waste of money!.. and sony for one wont. so no it’s different from mS where you get DRM even if the dev/publisher didn’t want to

    #107 2 years ago
  108. Rockin a Jack D

    It’s still a console and it’s still shite…

    #108 2 years ago
  109. falconofstorms

    This does clear things up for rational people. Unfortunately, not so much for people who refuse to believe that “we won’t block games with DRM” means “they won’t block games with DRM”.

    As an aside from all of the fanboi drama here, this news surely means that Microsoft is now going to come out and say “just kidding” about their own DRM plans.

    #109 2 years ago
  110. kaka702

    Sony will leave the DRM thing to the Developers and publishers. At least this will tell us which Developer and Publishers are the greedy ones.

    #110 2 years ago

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