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Id Software games unlikely to come to Linux

Wednesday, 6th February 2013 21:53 GMT By Brenna Hillier

Id Software technical guru John Carmack has said he doesn’t expect to provide Linux support for any future games.

In a post on Reddit, Carmack said Linux “barely makes it into” his “top ten priorities” and he is only interested in it academically, as a technical challenge.

“I don’t think that a good business case can be made for officially supporting Linux for mainstream games today, and Zenimax doesn’t have any policy of ‘unofficial binaries’ like Id used to have,” he said.

“I can’t speak for the executives at Zenimax, but they don’t even publish Mac titles (they partner with Aspyr), so I would be stunned if they showed an interest in officially publishing and supporting a Linux title.”

Carmack said he’s made a push internally to continue the tradition of releasing Id Software’s source code, but isn’t championing Linux ports in particular.

“A port could be up and running in a week or two, but there is so much work to do beyond that for official support,” he said.

“The conventional wisdom is that native Linux games are not a good market. Id Software tested the conventional wisdom twice, with Quake Arena and Quake Live. The conventional wisdom proved correct. Arguments can be made that neither one was an optimal test case, but they were honest tries.”

Despite increasing support for Linux from independent developers and Valve, the alternative OS has its detractors; Braid developer Jonathan Blow complained about the debugging process this week.

Id Software is believed to be working on DOOM 4 at present.

Thanks, Blue’s News.

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  1. Hunam

    I’m sure they’ll survive without the blurry, static vistas of RAGE.

    #1 1 year ago
  2. mkotechno

    Launch in Linux != Release source code.

    In addition I think there is no much extra work to port to Linux since Carmark already uses OpenGL even in Windows, just append a new parameter in sound code to output to Pulseaudio and is almost done.

    Well, if they want not to do it now, they will be forced when the SteamBox/SteamOS be released, muahahahahahah.

    #2 1 year ago
  3. Phoenixblight

    @2

    THey won’t be forced to do shit. Steambox will be open to use Windows.

    #3 1 year ago
  4. Tormenter

    If ID don’t release to Linux then they will simply become less relevent to gaming as time goes on, as Linux is going to get a fair amount of notice in the coming couple of years

    TBH do we really need ID anymore anyway? What was the last decent consumer product/game they made? Whatever it was it’s was a long time ago anyway.

    They are just engine makers now and with devs increasingly being willing to support Linux, take up of ID’s non-Linux compatible engines will be on the fall.

    Carmack.. it’s called ‘shooting oneself in the foot’.

    #4 1 year ago
  5. Phoenixblight

    @5

    Sorry what? Linux will never be relevant to PC gaming. They had a chance when Vista was around but then because of its fragmentation it lost that chance and now its its less than 5% of PC users with Windows the vast majority, apple at distant second and then Linux a close third. MS would have to do something extremely stupid to lose their market and Windows 8 isn’t that as much as MS haters want it to be so.

    #5 1 year ago
  6. Tormenter

    @6, you’re wrong about win8.. that’s another Vista, the exact same flag waving is happening there as did the first time MS shat.. but leaving that discussion where it belongs.. in the boredom box, we’ll move on

    Linux is certainly going to be in a better state for gaming than it has been. Especially with Steam investing in it, and AMD and Nvidea getting their drivers in order..

    You know, I find this persistent linux denial rather perplexing, and I’m not really too sure what to make of the people who indulge in it.

    Is it ever going to be number one mainstream.. no.. is it going to remain the bastard stepchild, certainly not. As for the vaunted ‘fragmentation’.. that will begin to disappear, (as far as gaming is concerned you’ll see the EXACT same thing happen there as we have with phones and Android, we’ll eventually get a dedicated Linux gaming OS that will be updated precisely to be gamed upon) as soon as Steam is seen to be making headway.

    I think people like you who cling so much to past market conditions are either naive or simply don’t think things through… The market is no longer dictated to by MS (PC gamers have had enough of MS screwing with DX support just to sell then next windows version, the uptake for win8 has been pathetic, if it wasn’t for new hardware it would have died already.. who the hell wants a phone OS on their PC except numbskulls) or even other console makers, there are too many devs looking to make a name and they’ll go any route to try to make that happen. As for Apple being number 2.. won’t happen.. they’ll pick up a larger share than they have now, which won’t be hard considering it’s less than 1% atm, but do you REALLY think it’s going to gain shares from any of the console markets, MS or even Android.. no, it’s a different consumer, the people who haven’t bought Apple hardware by now won’t be buying it, and they don’t have a large base outside lightbooks and phones, but linux will see a HUGE shift from MS (people are chomping at the bit to be given an alternative to this and will run from it as soon as ANY kind of alternative shows up) and it’ll get a further share from Android too, it won’t pick up any from the console market.. but as it is now , that market is dead, it just doesn’t know it yet, this is the last generation of that type of console, it so on the out that even PC gaming is getting some of it’s share back.. and that’s VERY telling. If that’s the case now, what the hell is it going to be like at endcycle?

    Who would ever have thought that a linux offshoot would hold the biggest share in the phone market? Yet, it does, by far.

    #6 1 year ago
  7. Phoenixblight

    @7

    Seeing as I work in the industry along with living in one of the biggest areas with the most developers indie and triple A alike and we all don’t work on linux. None of my friends or any nearby developer are working on linux and but we are migrating to windows 8, slowly but surely. I think I have more knowledge than you and your obvious fanboyism. Sorry but that’s how I see it. Even with Steam endorsing linux none of my indie friends have migrated they are still trucking in windows and apple OS.

    #7 1 year ago
  8. roadkill

    @9 Hehe. Just because you oppose it doesn’t mean it will never happen. We will see.

    #8 1 year ago
  9. Tormenter

    End of conversation… as soon as some twat shouts ‘fanboy’ any pretense at unbiased discussion goes out the window.

    And PhoenixBlight.. I’m king of the world, so what do you know?

    #9 1 year ago
  10. Phoenixblight

    @9

    I don’t oppose anything in fact I have ubuntu on a flash drive that I occasionally use to avoid using apple on some of the machines we have.

    @10

    Good. No skin off my back.

    #10 1 year ago
  11. campdude

    who cares. FarCry 1 better than Doom 3. Never been excited for ID.
    If it worked on Linux then I’d be like hmmm… yea i should get it as next computer will be Linux based but meh. Maybe I wouldnt not even have thought of getting Doom 4 a console port anyways.

    #11 1 year ago
  12. huajie359

    #12 1 year ago