Lack of females in Colonial Marines leads to petition

@100 The pomposity of Hollywood celebrities shouldn’t really come as a surprise to anyone.

^ Neither should yours…

I suggest that games only include females if they are realistically proportioned for their role. Movies tend to cast actors and models as tough characters, which is pretty ridiculous – an 80 pound anorexic cannot realistically hold their own in a fight of any sort, really, unless they use certain martial arts or styles that emphasize throwing instead of punching dudes in the face. Games are mostly similar. Lara Croft, for example, doesn’t have enough muscle to do any of what she does in the games.

@102 If you’re attempting to prove that you have absolutely no qualities beyond being a hackneyed Internet bully, you’re succeeding. You’re absolutely fucking pathetic.

Oooooh….

He’s bullying me!

I need a WHAAAAAAAAAAMBULANCE!!

@105 “…hackneyed…”

Your mentality is that of a bitter child. I would honestly feel sad for you if you were younger. Thankfully, I have the other 80% of the site to do that on my behalf. You and Da Man are like the Bulk and Skull of VG247.

Cry some more!

@107 I am. From laughter.

At yourself!

@silkvg247: I’d like to take the time to apologize for calling you one of those feminazis who call anyone they disagree with CIS HETERO MALE WHITE ETC, you’re actually the most reasonable feminist I’ve ever spoken to.

Having said that, I still stand by my point that avatars being fully customizable, althought something desirable and gender (in my opinion) should be there most times (I am a male and I prefer playing females since I were a kid. Also I’m not into boobs, so that’s not the reason =p) I still don’t think it’s sexist not to add that option to every multiplayer game. =/

You’re still awesome though, you’re the kind of feminist this world needs, not people like Ireland Michael, he spouts complete nonsense, the usual male-hater.

tl;dr: Keep on fighting for female avatars, just don’t use sexism as a reason, it doesn’t apply in this case imo

@85 I won’t buy it, but I never intended to anyway! If it’d had some strong female leads in, I might have shown some interest yes, but as it stands now there’s nothing appealing for me.

If it turns out to be a mega awesome marines vs. aliens game and all my mates play it, then sure, I’ll buy it in due course.

I don’t boycott games otherwise I would have never played TF2. I just don’t buy them if they don’t appeal. And often games which lack females don’t appeal; that’s what I meant when I said I don’t buy MP games with male only avatars.

I’ve made other exceptions in the past because my guildies play a certain game, for example the battlefield series for playing at LAN. If they didn’t play said game(s) then I would never had seen a need to buy them.

@110 I was gonna argue I’m not really a feminist as forum debate doesn’t make me one.. but if that’s how you see me then I don’t see the point arguing. Like most things, it’s just a label. However, I’m not about to go burn my bra, I quite like having the boob support.

Looking at the wiki, if I am one, I’m one of the last ones in the paragraph:

“Feminism is mainly focused on women’s issues, but because feminism seeks gender equality, some feminists argue that men’s liberation is a necessary part of feminism, and that men are also harmed by sexism and gender roles.”

.. I’m more of an equality person, and like I said before, we can only be equals in games, so that’s the *only* place I’ll really argue females should have a presence.

I’m fully aware the genders are not equals in real life, I don’t know why people can’t accept that and I don’t agree in equal opportunities in every job either. I believe physical jobs are better suited to men. I beleive certain mental jobs are better for women, for example did you know we have a better mindset for logical thinking therefore programming? Sadly girls aren’t guided towards IT hence it is unusual to see a girl behind a computer.

I could talk all day about my views on this but this isn’t the right forum.

Apology accepted, and we can agree to disagree on what sexism is, as my view on it is different to most people’s anyway.

@112 I know girls are better at multitasking while men are better at doing a single task properly. Just like you, I know men are better suited for physical tasks while women are better for other things (though I don’t know exactly what things), and what you said about programming is news to me, pretty cool to know though!

And about the feminist label, I use the term like it was used in the 60s: equality. Nowadays it seems to me it has been skewed to be “women > men” (though I am not sure, it’s just the way lots of feminists from today act imo), which is the reason the term “egalitarianism” was created.

My defensive stance on this whole issue is due to some people on other sites (and some people in here, sadly) coming with the stance “this is sexism and if you don’t agree, it just shows how bad the situation is, and I won’t bother explaining to you chauvinist pig” in the past few months, due to tomb raider, videogames women tropes documentary, etc. The shitty gaming tabloid known as Kotaku has writers spouting that kind of hate-filled nonsense every week, and it’s been building up inside me lately.

Either way, would love to talk you about programming, game dev (what kind of game are you working on?) and whatever else somewhere else.

O’Conner, considering you spent years on this internet website arguing with thearse up until recently, going on about how you’re a superior ‘gamer’, ‘journalist’, ‘intelligent’ and ‘handsome’, only to start nagging on about how you ‘re a father of two kids (step father I suppose though?) on every possible occasion or how you’re the defender of women’s’ rights (on the internet)..

..thus basically going from a psychotic young man to a tedious male feminist, you make some amazing accusations..

Noone bullied you, you’re just an annoying person, constantly seeking hysterical conflicts.. I take it you make friends that way. Too bad.

So anyway, did the little feminine Michaela just mention Aliens’ story as something proving his point and then dismissed story driven video games as being irrelevant? Logic.. male feminists lack it.

Top satire , O’Conner.

@113 sure, you can just use my indie dev thread if you wanna chat sometime. I’ll be doing an update end of this month, game is near completion but my real life(tm) job has kicked up a notch, so indie dev is slow at the mo.

http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=5560

@114 I don’t recall ever saying story driven games are irrelevant. Heck, in the a recent Beyond story, I made the point that I think they’re essential to making people take gaming seriously. Stories are one of the best things about good games.

The only problem is that most video game stories suck.

I said there are differences between single player content and multiplayer content. There’s a female marine in the single-player campaign of Colonial Marines.

@101 Pomposity or not, it doesn’t seem like she’s opposed to the idea at all. She’s opposed to working with 20th Century Fox. And that’s apparently because they won’t let her play an action role.