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DICE aiming for “12-18 months of value” for BF3

Friday, 27 April 2012 14:25 GMT By Johnny Cullen

Sounds like DICE intends to provide Battlefield 3 players for as long as possible, with CEO Patrick Bach telling VG247 it intends to give up to “12-18 months” worth of value in the shooter.

DICE has the game’s second expansion multiplayer Close Quarters this June. That’s to be followed up by Armored Kill this fall and End Game towards the end of the year. This is after the release of the Back to Karkand expansion last December.

Speaking at last week’s EA European Showcase, Bach, who’s temping as studio CEO while full-time studio boss Karl-Magnus Troedsson is on paternity leave, told Sam Clay that support could extend into 2013.

Word to the wise, though: that could just mean updates, fixing things and that rather than new expansions.

“It’s really hard for me to make bets on how the market will look at Medal of Honor vs Battlefield vs other shooters,” said Bach when answering a question on the now rotating yearly releases between Medal of Honor and Battlefield within EA.

“We at DICE, we only focus on Battlefield. We make sure that if you’re a Battlefield player, there should be plenty of Battlefield for you to spend your days on. And again, we are focusing on giving you 12-18 months of value for Battlefield 3 and the expansion packs we’re releasing.

“So I can’t really say anything about the other tactics about releasing other games because we are DICE, we do Battlefield.”

But could that timeline of up to 18 months extend into two years ahead of an expected new Battlefield game?

“Right now, we haven’t had that planned out yet,” said Bach.

“Depending on what happens, we’ll change things and add to it. We’re very keen on listening to the community and we read all the forums and posts, we make sure we implement any changes that need to be implemented and of course validate through data.

“We have a lot of statistics going on in Battlefield, so we know exactly what’s happening.”

EA’s main shooter effort for the Christmas period will be Medal of Honor: Warfighter in October. Last time round, DICE was heavily involved in creating the game’s multiplayer while Danger Close made the single-player arc.

This time, DICE isn’t involved with the game directly bar “the odd tips and tricks” with Frostbite 2 in Warfighter after the engine’s stunning debut in Battlefield 3 last year. Bach said DICE’s focus with Battlefield was “slightly different” when compared to Danger Close’s real-world events in Medal of Honor.

“I’m not involved in that project directly, so I don’t know what exactly their focus is when it comes to the details. I know they are focusing a lot on the more connecting it to real-world events, which we’re not what we’re trying to do at all.

“I think our focus is slightly different from a high-level perspective. Of course, they are using the Frostbite 2 engine as well so there will be some similarities, of course. But in general, it’s just a different game.”

Battlefield 3: Close Quarters launches this June first on PS3. 360 and PC releases follow a week later. Watch for a video interview on the pack this afternoon.

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14 Comments

  1. Charlie Sheen

    remember when they said 3 years…lol seriously dice you guys fucking suck, all you did with bf3 is hype it up with so much bullshit

    #1 3 years ago
  2. freedoms_stain

    Battlefield 2, released June 2005, last update, September 2009.

    #2 3 years ago
  3. GrimRita

    I do miss playing Battlefield but refuse to install EA’s spyware. But value for who? A friend of mine told me that you can purchase small DLC bundles for like £4.50 a pop – that is alot of cash! No doubt this is the real reason behind their PR bullshit spat with Steam.

    #3 3 years ago
  4. polygem

    i didn´t play bf3. the beta was a huge let down for me. i am sure the final game is much better than that shabby metro map….but i ended up not buying the game eventhough i am a bf fan and couldn´t wait for 3. yesterday night i played some conquest matches again in bfbc2 and really enjoyed it. havent played the game for quite some time. will play a bit more tonite if someone wants to join. on 360.
    that said. i still feel like skipping bf3. i am tempted to buy it but i think i wont be able to enjoy it as much as i have bfbc2

    #4 3 years ago
  5. DSB

    They should’ve given it more time in the oven and really tweaked the balance. That would’ve added a lot more value for me than B2K at least.

    #5 3 years ago
  6. tdrules

    @#4

    http://www.blogger.com

    #6 3 years ago
  7. roni1175

    Personally I think DICE did a great job with this game, to much initial marketing by EA though.

    Making a game that appeal to more crowd is not a bad thing. Some compromises are done and it’s should be acceptable.

    count me in for all 3 expansions…

    #7 3 years ago
  8. noherczeg

    The world isn’t the same place as it was 5-6 years ago. You guys seriously can’t compare software development back then with how it is today. They can’t afford to stick with one project for 5 years, because there are lots of alternatives, or will be for this genre.

    Yes maybe value has something to do with the fact that you played BF2 for 5 years, but back then I bet there were not even as much games out there like it is now. Developmnet has become a faster process because people want more, or what not. The core fans “say” that they want a product wich lasts for 5 year without any investment, but it can’t be accomplished now.

    If this game will last for ~2 years actively then they’ve reached what they wanted imho.

    Also, don’t forget that people wan’t a second part of Mirror’s Edge to, and if I can recall correctly it was developed by Dice, so if you ever want to see a worthy sequel for that they’ll need to split their resources to do that :)

    #8 3 years ago
  9. polygem

    @#6

    http://www.wikihow.com/Be-Funny

    #9 3 years ago
  10. DSB

    @8 What are you talking about? The same games that were out back then are the same games that are out now. Medal of Honor, Call of Duty, Battlefield.

    Publishers obviously want us to believe that the game has changed so they can sell us even more shit we don’t need, but there are plenty of developers who still go the extra mile at their own expense.

    Splash Damage, Valve, Relic and Blizzard support their games long after they leave the shops, and CD Projekt Red are piling on free DLC for nothing but the cost of the original game.

    There’s a big difference between “Can’t” and “Don’t want to”.

    #10 3 years ago
  11. freedoms_stain

    @8, between the 2 dates I listed DICE developed 6 other titles (including Mirror’s Edge), so what the hell was your point again?

    #11 3 years ago
  12. noherczeg

    @10 I was talking about gaming as a whole. Other genres including. Devs are competing in a larger number. It’s just my opinion that they can’t sit on one title for that long.

    Other than that: Valve has microtransactions, Blizzard has wow. It’s really easy to come up with them but everyoe knows where teir money comes from, and yes, maybe they don’t come up with something every year, but they have teir income. So I can’t look at them as what you try to imply to.

    And yes I basicaly said that Dice doesn’t want to, so NO I didn’t try to defend them, I only said that if it lasts for 2 years or more, than its already a great thing considering the trends. Thats all.

    #12 3 years ago
  13. DSB

    @12 Sorry, but that still makes no sense. I count nine micro-transaction titles off the top of my head plus two MMORPGs under EAs roof.

    I also mentioned two other developers, both of which are indies.

    Valve are a private company, so they can spend the money however they want, but Blizzard has to answer to investors just like EA does. The only difference between the two is that Blizzard doesn’t use the market as an excuse to stop supporting their games.

    Business isn’t about relaxing as long as you’re ahead. I don’t know of any business people with that kind of mentality. A lot of the more mechanical companies out there, like EA, certainly wouldn’t agree. For them it’s a question of making more money, all the time, to meet the unrealistic expectations set by investors, slowly setting the bar higher for what you can expect of a public company.

    In the old days you’d call that common greed, and subscribing to that is a choice made by EA. It’s not forced on them by anyone or anything.

    Valve has one micro-transaction title, EA has nine. Valve has a digital retail client. EA has an digital retail client. Blizzard has an MMORPG, EA has two MMORPGs.

    Splash Damage has none of those things.

    CD Projekt Red has digital retail arm selling older and indie games for 10 bucks, with two proprietary titles earning them 100% margins. EA probably has something like 40+ titles earning them 100% margins.

    It’s quite obviously a difference in mentality, not a difference in circumstance.

    #13 3 years ago
  14. jacobvandy

    EA is scrambling, hemorrhaging money. Really wouldn’t surprise me if they take that Korean F2P publisher up on the buy-out offer…

    #14 3 years ago

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    Halo: The Master Chief Collection has been updated to help fix its tragic matchmaking. Again. Now almost four months old, Halo: The Master Chief Collection was still pretty broken as of this morning, with rubbish matchmaking and plenty of other issues to go around. 343 Industries is still trying to fix it, and has today […]

  • Nvidia unveils Shield, an Android 4K Smart TV set top box

    Nvidia has named yet another product “Shield” in an attempt to render us all hopelessly confused. The heart of Nvidia’s GDC 2015 press conference was the Shield, a $200 Android set top box launching in May. Apparently the “world’s first 4K Android TV”, the Shield supports 4K content encoded with h.265. The box runs on […]

  • Star Wars Battlefront footage shown behind closed doors

    Star Wars Battlefront is being shown to retailers. Now we want EA to show it to us. Star Wars Battlefront is expected sometime this year, so it’s about time EA gave us a look at DICE’s latest. It turns out that while press and gamers have had to twiddle their thumbs, EA is showing it […]

  • Dragon Age lead creative moves onto mysterious new BioWare project

    Dragon Age creator David Gaider is leaving his baby behind. Dragon Age is a team effort, but Gaider was one of the key creatives behind the franchise, creating the setting of Thedas (which, I was recently amused to learn, is an acronym: “THE Dragon Age Setting”). He was lead writer on all three games and […]

  • Unity 5 available for free with “no fucking around”

    Unity 5 looks amazing, and you can download and faff about with it for free right now. “We’re not nickel-and-diming people. When we say it’s free, it’s free. We’re not charging a royalty, which I think is akin to looking for whales.” Unity Technologies announced the release of the fifth version of its popular, simple, […]

  • Five Nights at Freddy’s 3 may be the end of the series

    Five Nights at Freddy’s 3 released yesterday, and many fans theorise that it marks the end of the series. Five Nights at Freddy’s developer Scott Cawthon has released a new teaser image on his website, but rather than pointing to a new game, many fans believe the teaser signals the end of the series. The […]

  • Source 2 announced, will also be free

    Valve has formally unveiled Source Engine 2, the third major engine to go free to developers at GDC 2015. Source 2 is the successor to the engine Valve has been using since Counter-Strike: Source and Half-Life 2. Valve didn’t have much to say about the technicalities of this long-awaited release. It is apparently focused on […]

  • SteamVR: Valve’s Lighthouse tech allows you to walk around while playing

    SteamVR’s key differentiator is a piece of tech allowing headsets to connect with other devices for extra accurate, room-scale tracking. Valve has announced a new bit of technology called Lighthouse, which it is making freely available to any hardware manufacturer. Like the extra tracking LEDs on Sony’s updated Project Morpheus, Lighthouse improves the headset’s accuracy, […]

  • Steam Machines, Controller, streaming box to launch in November

    Steam Machines will finally become a reality before the end of the year. Valve’s living room PC systems will release in November, the company announced today. Well, I say Valve’s – the idea behind Steam Machines is that a number of manufacturers will offer variously priced systems. Alienware and Falcon Northwest are among the dozen […]

  • Telltale veterans form new team, announce teen thriller Oxenfree

    Oxenfree is a supernatural teen thriller from some of the team behind Telltale Games’ award-winning adventures. New indie Night School Studios unveiled Oxenfree at GDC 2015. It tells the story of a group of friends who accidentally open a “ghostly rift” at an overnight party on the coast. Night School, which is made up of […]

  • PS4 global sales now stand at over 20.2 million

    The PS4 has sold 20.2 million units worldwide. Sony announced the new PS4 sales milestone at GDC 2015 today. It’s a hell of an achievement and salt in the wounds for Microsoft, which hasn’t updated us on Xbox One sales since it shipped “almost” 10 million back in November last year, and has fallen back […]

  • PS4 VR headset Morpheus out in 2016, capable of 120 FPS – video

    Sony’s VR headset Project Morpheus has some impressive grunt. Virtual reality and Morpheus were the heart of Sony’s GDC 2015 presentation today, ahead of its newly announced first-half 2016 comemrcial launch. SCE Worldwide Studios boss Shuhei Yoshida detailed the headset’s impressive capabilities, notably the fact that it can handle 120 FPS VR games. The PS4 […]

  • Papo & Yo developer making a VR game about dinosaurs

    Some days you write a headline and it makes you so happy that that you have to do a little chair dance, you know what I mean? Papo & Yo developer Minority Media, whom I would personally go to the wall for after they cut out my heart and stomped on it via the medium […]

  • Wasteland 2, Shovel Knight and more in big ole bunch of indies coming to Xbox One

    Xbox One owners are about to receive a pile of great new indie games. At GDC 2015, Microsoft revealed a list of new indie games headed to Xbox One. Some of these titles have already released on other platforms, so it looks like Microsoft has really relaxed the parity clause of ID@Xbox – or perhaps […]

  • Here’s an indie VR game made with Unreal Engine 4

    GDC 2015 is blowing up with indie games, VR and Unreal Engine 4, so here’s a video combining all three. Loading Human is a virtual reality adventure from indie developer Untold Games. It’s in the works for Mac and PC, and Sony has given an early green light for Project Morpheus, too, so expect it […]

  • GTA Online: Daily Objectives and Adversary Mode coming next week

    Heists aren’t the only thing coming to GTA Online next week: players can also expect Adversary Modes, new Daily Objectives and other Freemode activities. GTA Online’s Adversary Modes are new PvP modes which feature a range of competitive challenges and will unlock as players progress through Heists. Here’s a rundown straight from Rockstar: Come Out […]

  • Syndicate is the latest free game download on Origin

    The latest free title to be added to EA’s Origin service is 1993′s Syndicate. For a limited time, you can download the game for free and keep it, much like previous titles such as Theme Hospital. The isometric, real-time, tactical-action game was developed by Bullfrog Productions and released in June 1993. It is a favorite […]

  • Ancient Labyrinth DLC for Lords of the Fallen now available

    The Ancient Labyrinth DLC for Lords of the Fallen is now available for PC, PlayStation 4, and Xbox One. It will run you $7.99 and builds upon the existing lore, characters, and storyline. Have a look at some new screenshots in the gallery below.

  • Shadowrun Online gets a name change and release date

    Shadowrun Online developer Cliffhanger Productions has announced the game’s name has been changed to Shadowrun Chronicles: Boston Lockdown and a release date for April has been set. The new title was formed via the developer and its Kickstarter backers, with the goal being to let those unfamiliar with the game know by the title alone […]

  • Amazon hosting Rockstar and 2K Games sale

    Amazon is hosting a Rockstar Games and 2K Games sale with discounts Max Payne titles, Bully and more. Here’s just some of the offerings listed: Manhunt 2 PC Download $3.00 Max Payne 3 PC Download $4.00 Bully: Scholarship Edition PC Download $3.00 LA Noire Xbox 360 $2.95 L.A. Noire: The Complete Edition PC Download $6.00 […]

  • Destiny weekly reset video shows off Inferno Crucible gameplay

    We have a gameplay video featuring Inferno Crucible gameplay featured in the Destiny weekly reset for you. In it, Arekkz Gaming gives you a look at Inferno Crucible and goes over the various intricacies. You can read up on the weekly reset through the links.

  • Resident Evil: Revelations 2 Episode 2 available from today

    Episode 2 for Resident Evil: Revelations 2 is now available. If you’ve purchased the Complete Season, you’ll be able to download Episode 2 on PS3, PS4 and Xbox One. Steam players should see the episode go live around 9-10pm PST, and Xbox 360 owners should be able to download very early tomorrow morning, per Capcom […]

  • Here’s a sneak peek video for Warhammer: End Times – Vermintide

    Fatshark Games has released a sneak peek video for its upcoming Games Workshop title, Warhammer: End Times – Vermintide. Vermintide is a FPS, co-op action title coming to PC, PlayStation 4 and Xbox One, and its set during the End Times of the Warhammer universe in the city of Ubersreik. Warhammer: End Times – Vermintide […]

  • Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare video shows Ascendance DLC early access weapon

    As you know, Xbox Season Pass holders now have early access to the Ascendance DLC Pack bonus weapons for Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare. Now you can watch a trailer for the weapon. The OHM directed energy hybrid weapon can switch between an LMG and Shotgun “on the fly,” and it also includes the OHM-Werewolf […]

  • March PS Plus games include OlliOlli 2, Oddworld: New ‘n’ Tasty, more

    March PlayStation Plus titles have popped up on the PS Plus page. Noticed by NeoGAF user skynidas, the titles include: OlliOlli2 (PS4/VITA) Valiant Hearts: The Great War (PS4) Oddworld: New ‘n’ Tasty (PS4) Counterspy (PS4/PS3) Papo & Yo (PS3) Sherlock Holmes: Crimes and Punishment (PS3) A notice has also been posted on the EU PS […]

  • Sci-fi horror game Caffeine will release on Xbox One, PS4 alongside PC – new trailer

    Caffeine creator Dylan Browne has announced the Unreal Engine 4 game will be released on Xbox One. The game will be published through Microsoft’s Indie Program. As previously announced, it is also coming to PC and and now PlayStation 4. Caffeine is a sci-fi horror game which stars a young boy who has been abandoned […]

  • Xbox 360 Preview program invites going out this month

    Much like the Xbox One Preview program, starting early this month, invites for the Xbox 360 Preview program will start rolling out. Select invitees will be able to join program directly from their Xbox 360. A special Xbox Live message will be sent, directing users to head over to their Settings page. Further instructions are […]

  • Tron: Legacy director in negotiations for Gran Turismo film

    Tron: Legacy director Joseph Kosinski is said to be in early negotiations to direct the Gran Turismo film. This is according to the Hollywood Reporter, which states Michael De Luca is still slated as one of the producers alongside Matt Milam, Dana Brunetti, Josh Bratman, DeVon Franklin and Elizabeth Cantillon. Plot details are still unknown […]

  • Fifth add-on pack for Alien: Isolation is available for download

    The Trigger, which is is the fifth add-on pack for Alien: Isolation, is available to download from today. In it, players will “compete against the clock” across three new maps in Survivor Mode. Set before the events of the main game, players step into the shoes of Sevastopol Station’s Ricardo who will do what he […]

  • HBO Go app now available on PlayStation 4

    Sony has announced the HBO Go app will be made available for download later today for PlayStation 4. The app works just like the PS version. Now you can watch True Detective, Game of Thrones, Veep and more through your console. Information on installation is available through the PS Blog.