Mon, May 17, 2010 | 13:09 BST

Premium PSN plans for E3 reveal, to cost “less than £50 per year”

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VG247 has learnt that Sony is to reveal plans for PSN’s premium services at E3.

According to a highly-placed source, Sony will announce a large-scale monetizing scheme for PSN at the LA show, but we’re assured nothing planned will impact the service’s current free aspects.

A string of features will be revealed, apparently costing “less than £50 per year”.

Sony will confirm plans to give all subscribers one free PSN game per month, from a choice of “two to four” every month.

“If you work it out, PSN games cost an average of £6-9 each, so over a year you’re basically going to be breaking even,” said our source.

A streaming music application similar to Spotify will be announced in Sony’s press conference on June 15. It’s thought that this can run in the background while playing games.

Rumours that cross-game voice chat is being saved as a paid feature are apparently not true, we were told.

“I can tell you now, 100 percent, that that’s not the case,” our man continued.

“There’s nothing in the premium package which will gimp regular PSN users.”

The PSN premium services announcement is thought to be a major part of Sony’s E3 conference, which will also heavily feature Move.

It’s thought that a PSP2 announcement, for this reason, is unlikely, and will be saved for either gamescom or TGS later this year. Get more detail on that here.

37 comments

#1

deftangel
17/05/10, 1:15 pm

t’was only a matter of time. I hope it’s not limited to a 12-month subscription only mind because that ain’t gonna end well. Intrigued to see what they’ll add.

#2

52pickup
17/05/10, 1:15 pm

As long as it’s features packed and less than 50 quid i’ll subscribe day 1.

#3

Blerk
17/05/10, 1:18 pm

“Less than £50″? That’ll be £49.99, then. :-D

The ‘free’ PSN game sounded like a good idea until they restricted it to only the ones that they pick – no doubt it’ll be rubbish ones that you don’t want.

Still, if they’re not gimping the free service then it’s all good. But if they’re not doing that then this’ll have to be pretty spectacular to convince people to shell out, surely?

#4

Erthazus
17/05/10, 1:20 pm

I’ll subscribe if one free game each month, if not, no way.

I’m not spoiled child that buys Stimulus packs on Xbox 360 or PS3.

#5

Erthazus
17/05/10, 1:21 pm

@3 yeah and if it is rubbish i won’t pay.

#6

daytripper
17/05/10, 1:24 pm

what sony need to do is revamp the whole online ID/customization to make it feel more like a gaming profile rather than business style software, the xmb seems to be best suited to a media player rather than a gaming machine.

http://www.destructoid.com/ps3-trophies-and-how-they-underachieve-130646.phtml

that article is pretty spot on imo, give me a job sony i’ll sort it out for you.

#7

Retroid
17/05/10, 1:26 pm

One PSN game included each month?

Hmmm.

I’d prefer the rumours of included PS1 games but if those count…. I may well subscribe.

#8

Alakratt
17/05/10, 1:27 pm

Sooooo, it’ll cost less than $72..hmm.. I’m thinking that they’ll say that it’s less than $60? If this article is right of course…

#9

OlderGamer
17/05/10, 1:32 pm

So I am guessing we will see LastFM and Netflix as premium services. But Netflix is now included in the free stuff, so maybe not.

But.

Why would anyone want to pay for anything?

Save your subscript fee and buy/pick the PSN game you want each month.

Also I expect to see a “Deal of the week” type thing half off this or that DLC if you subscribe.

But I just can’t see them adding anything of real value to make paying worth it.

IMO they should just charge like LIVE and be done with it. Online services cost to maintain. Simple as that, no shame in it. But the way Sony is handling this makes me wonder what they are thinking.

Looking forward to learning more at E3.

#10

Kaufer
17/05/10, 1:36 pm

What happened to the tiered subscription model?

#11

Johnny Cullen
17/05/10, 1:37 pm

I’m guessing that Netflix will remain partially a free feature.

The disc you need to stream stuff will still work for your PS3, but I’d think that if you want to do it without the disc, the stream without disc feature is a premium feature.

#12

mojo
17/05/10, 1:39 pm

“Online services cost to maintain”
yeah, but far off 50$ per user per year.
not even close.

#13

James91
17/05/10, 1:46 pm

“A streaming music application similar to Spotify will be announced in Sony’s press conference on June 15. It’s thought that this can run in the background while playing games.”

UK ‘unlimited’ ISP’s will love that.

Plus, streaming music in-game, surely this might bring about some lag issues?

#14

Aimless
17/05/10, 1:48 pm

To me it makes sense to bolster a premium option with tweaks that will appeal to the core audience willing to pay for such things, like being able to set up different friend groups — essentially separate friend lists in personalised folders, so you could sort people by the games they play online, et cetera — or even some sort of overarching clan support.

Now that Microsoft are freed from supporting the original Xbox it stands to reason that they will be making improvements to Live, perhaps even announcing them at E3, and if Sony are introducing a paid service I can see them wanting to trump whatever it is their competition are offering; PSN has come a long way since launch, cross-game chat being the only real differentiator between it and Live these days.

#15

theevilaires
17/05/10, 1:51 pm

hmmmmm this sounds kinda ok. I might start paying for PSN which then I have to shut up about Xbox live and start paying for that too :(

#16

Retroid
17/05/10, 1:59 pm

:D

#17

SplatteredHouse
17/05/10, 2:02 pm

If people do pay for PSN, then there WILL be a greater focus on quality of service, and frankly, where’s the community equivalent of Nelson of Microsoft, for Sony users? Talk about a poisoned chalice, for whoever takes up that role!
Because otherwise, the complaints will be found posted to the likes of major gaming news blogs (who also would state ‘public interest’ for increasing their scrutiny/baiting), and those comments are just such an order of magnitude more visible there.

Can they offer a level of service and reliability, to match the price? Who’s culpable, if there’s a problem on the server side – the publisher? I think paying for PSN raises questions that will need answering.

#18

OlderGamer
17/05/10, 2:11 pm

It really does seem like a no win at this point for Sony.

Can they offer a quality service as good as LIVE?

Easy to tout “ok LIVE is a bit better, but PSN is free!”

Again need to keep in mind that we can still play games and use the PS3 Online w/o paying. They aren’t forcing us to pay to play.

I just can’t understand what they can offer that would make me want to pay them to use.

#19

The Hindle
17/05/10, 2:25 pm

I really hope E3 still has some suprises in store now that this has been leaked :(

#20

Aimless
17/05/10, 2:26 pm

SplatteredHouse, I’d argue that Sony actually have a much stronger internet presence than MajorNelson: the PlayStation.Blog and its regional variants. They field store refreshes, announcements, service updates and get developers in for video interviews or walkthroughs. It’s easily one of Sony’s most successful ventures in recent years.

To be honest I don’t really understand why people seem to think Live is a more reliable service than PSN. In my experience — some thousand hours spent using both — I would be very hard pressed to place one above the other in that regard. Not to say that my experience has been problem-free with either, but I really don’t see the divide on a service level.

#21

The Hindle
17/05/10, 2:29 pm

On topic, if Sony do start seriously taking on live its gonna force Microsoft to up thier game as well its good news for everyone.

#22

xino
17/05/10, 2:32 pm

i truly wish this Premium service is true and real!

because YOU DON’T have to pay for it!
Everything PSN has to offer is still good and better yet you can play for free!
If you want to get MORE out of PSN, then pay for the service!

#23

Erthazus
17/05/10, 2:38 pm

@22 the question is: Is it worth it.

#24

Quiiick
17/05/10, 2:50 pm

@ 23
Your milage may vary.
For some it will definitely be worth it. For others not at all.

#25

KAP
17/05/10, 2:52 pm

“You get a FREE game”

It’s free, if you pay for it. I love my PS3Slim but sony; Your a damn rip off.

#26

Quiiick
17/05/10, 2:54 pm

@ 25
Their logic is: By subscribing to the service you pay for some of the features & you get a few things for free.

#27

get2sammyb
17/05/10, 2:55 pm

This is the way to do it if this rumour is correct. More features for the hardcore Playstation community to enjoy, while taking nothing away from those who just want to play Fifa online, etc.

Sounds good.

#28

Redh3lix
17/05/10, 3:48 pm

I’d would possibly subscribe given the options outlined by comment 14 (Aimless). For myself and friends who are on most nights organising matches, life would be much easier from a clan perspective if party chat was available.

#29

Zekeban
17/05/10, 4:05 pm

I think it´s a good thing if the PSN gets a premium service. Competition is always good, it means better pricing than the rival and all the consumers win

#30

heyheyhey
17/05/10, 9:22 pm

“PSN has come a long way since launch, cross-game chat being the only real differentiator between it and Live these days.”

Nah, there’s still tons of differences. For example, Live has: -

Cross-game chat
Private voice chat
A party mode for up to 8 players
Demos of ALL downloadable games
Live status updates for all games
Indie Games
Appear offline option
“Friends only” communication options
Title updates limited to 8 MB
Full 1080p streaming movies with 5.1 audio
1 Vs. 100 with real prizes
Cross-game invites that work in every game
Voice chat in every single game
Reputation system
Reporting system
True Skill matchmaking system

Plus a few other bits and bobs. PSN is still waaaaaay behind, but hopefully with Sony planning to charge twice what Xbox Live costs per year for their premium tier, they’ll catch up a bit.

#31

Aimless
17/05/10, 9:39 pm

A lot of that list is rather… dubious. Some of those points are like me listing Home as a pro of PSN, which I’m obviously not going to do as most people aren’t going to be interested in it.

#32

Boris Fett
17/05/10, 9:48 pm

“Why would anyone want to pay for anything?”

Because you can’t keep a service running for free? Talk about a false sense of entitlement.

Just look at the PlayStation division’s financial losses recently and you’ll see that this is a necessity more than anything else.

@31 There’s nothing dubious about that list in the slightest. I for one use 90% of the things mentioned there on a regular basis with Xbox Live, and I imagine so do most users.

The PS3 is an awesome console with some amazing exclusive, but it’s interface is archaic, extremely limited, and dull to boot.

I’m interested in this subscription model, but I remain apprehensive until I see what comes as part of the package. It’s going to have to be good.

#33

Aimless
17/05/10, 10:06 pm

I’m not saying the list is wrong, per se, just there’s a certain amount of tautology in it and features which are a bit of a stretch from where I’m sitting.

Were I to create a counter list — and let’s be clear, for all our sakes that will not be happening — it would be easy to bulk it out with things like Home, VidZone, iPlayer support, et cetera, but to my mind the one important differentiator between the two is cross-game chat/the party system as that makes a fundamental difference to online play. I appreciate that is something of a value judgement, and I’m not denying Live is the more standardised and better service, but considering I pay for one and not the other, Sony’s solution has come a hell of a long way.

Then again, and as I mentioned earlier, I’m hoping that Microsoft are going to give their service a nice boost in the arm now that the original Xbox is no longer hanging around their necks. Eradicating the need for dummy Gamertags would be a good start!

#34

Galactic_Barret
17/05/10, 11:17 pm

Make KB Sony’s MN?

Thats all, really. I have no interest in paying for online services.

#35

heyheyhey
18/05/10, 3:51 am

“to my mind the one important differentiator between the two is cross-game chat/the party system as that makes a fundamental difference to online play”

So does having cross-game invites for all games, voice chat in all games, live status updates for all games and being able to join a session in progress wherever possible in any game. The reporting system, reputation system, 6 communication channels that you can swap between at will, friends only communication option, appear offline option and the ability to send/receive messages from/to a PC are handy too.

As for the list I posted, you didn’t mention that you were only talking about online play, but even if we just single that out, clearly there are more differences than just cross-game chat.

#36

lirky
18/05/10, 4:32 pm

make it mandatory sony so i can go back to single-player gaming i miss those days :D .

#37

Rene-Nurido
18/05/10, 5:07 pm

Less than £50 per year is a fair price I think – and I would love more features for the psn like a clan chat or something like that.

I would buy it – and you?

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