Edge gives FFXIII a 5

also, you’re actually right FF games’ plots and characters were aimed at teens. they were never aimed at adults, with the exception of XII.

VI or VII still had stories way above say, X.

“with the exception of XII.”

Which is why FFXII is the most under-rated Final Fantasy in the entire franchise.

not only because of that, I still see people that want screen swirling random battles back.

*laughs* It was nice to see the back of those as well. I think the screen-swirling random battles can still work though – Tales of Vesperia does just fine using them.

FFXII was just… well, it was like Final Fantasy had finally grown up a bit. Of course, all the kids hated that, so we ended up with the teen angst again…

btw, Pudding. it’s FFs, not jrpgs. out of Square and Enix games, FFs were always the most teen oriented jrpgs. Chrono Cross, Vagrant Story or Valkyrie Profile weren’t exactly aimed at 30 years olds but they were different.

edit: @MOC I think that was the point of FFXII.. the FF fanbase shoul’ve er, spiritually grown up but apparently it didn’t.

Tetsuya Nomura stated that Versus will be a darker and more mature Final Fantasy. I think they should make a more adult RPG, there are not a lot of those, all we have is Bioware to make those. God, I miss Parasite Eve.

“Tetsuya Nomura stated that Versus will be a darker and more mature Final Fantasy. I think they should make a more adult RPG, there are not a lot of those, all we have is Bioware to make those.”

FF Versus XIII will be “dark” and “more mature” in a way that only teenagers are capable of digesting – lots of black clothing, wind-swept hair, angst-ridden brooding and emotional problems that take precedence over bigger issues like… oh, I don’t know… saving the world.

It will not be mature in any real sense of the term that actual adults understand it, and anyone hoping it will be is kidding themselves.

“I think they should make a more adult RPG.”

Try Lost Odyssey. It’s awesome. Tales of Vesperia has some strong, subtle character driven story-telling as well, if you can look past the cartoonish graphics.

I wasn’t stating that Versus would be a rated M game, was just repeating what Tetsuya said. I know they wouldn’t make a rated M Final Fantasy when the franchise has been made for teens then again think of the controversy if it was.
Waiting for Nier that looks like it has some potential.

I have played Lost Odyssey. It was alright, the talent system was god awful, no character had their own unique abilities and each character had a blank slate that you could only copy mortals to get their talents.

Never played Tales of Vesperia because of the cartoonish look, thought it would be like those chibi anime. I will look into it.

Nier is developed by Caivia, they made Drakengard. that game had a decent plot btw, overlooked by the majority of SquEnix fans.

Barely remember Drakengard, but I do remember having a blast on the dragon and liking the story.

Drakengard was like the not shit version of Lair.

I enjoyed Drakengard 1, and not Drakengard 2 as much. I VERY VERY much want an Adult themed FF, though I may die before it happens. Being an Adult..I am so tired of the teen angst themes anymore. I have a TON more disposable income then any Teen could ever dream of, and there are a ton of other Adults out there like me…I would take a M-Rated FF…as long as it was Solid it Story.
The 25 Hour Grind I am hearing about with 13 is getting scary..because EVERYONE is talking about it…but putting a but in, saying it is FF13 and it does get better…Who cares..why is everyone handling FF13 with white gloves…if the first 25 hours suck they suck…just state it…and then state it gets better after 25 hours..

@Frost

Every reviewer is saying something different so far. My friend has the import and he said he enjoyed it very much so and didn’t find it as a “grind” I can’t say I won’t find it so since I only played the demo.

As the Matured rated RPGs all we have to look forward to is Shin Megami finally putting a game on the console or this Nier which we can only hope it delivers.

“I VERY VERY much want an Adult themed FF.”

Just play FFXII. There, you’re sorted.

I think he means more of a Parasite Eve only with the FF brand on it Michael.

So blood and gore, basically?

I don’t think Final Fantasy needs it.

Thats not all Parasite Eve was.

@Michael: I liked XII too, but I don’t think it’s too unreasonable to pine for a title that takes advantage of one’s current gen hardware in the year 2010 AD

As for the age issue, there are two different ways to look at that. There are “teen” games, in that their content is appropriate for teens. Then there are “teen” games, in that their content is targeted at 13 year olds, full of angsty, airily verbose, pseudo-deep morose characters with hearts of gold, to the annoyance of all other age groups. We can’t rightly complain that a SE wants to make an all-age blockbuster, but Final Fantasy has mostly fallen into the latter category since the move to 3D.

PE wasn’t even actually gory. but it was just a different game.

also, I actually believe something like FF 6-7 plots were targeted at ages 16-18. that is altogether.

with FF8 and X being targeted at mostly 12-16 years olds.