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Valve skips PlayStation to avoid “stepchild version”, says Lombardi

Friday, 3 July 2009 13:22 GMT By Patrick Garratt

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Valve doesn’t want to make PlayStation games. End of.

“If we were customers of that product on PlayStation, we’d feel like we sort of got the stepchild version of the product while the guys on the PC and the 360 got the sweet version of it,” Valve marketing boss Doug Lombardi told CVG in London yesterday.

And why are Valve’s PC and 360 games better than Valve’s PlayStation games? Because Valve isn’t very good at PlayStation games. End of.

“If you look at it as a matter of Valve doing it, Valve did the 360 and the PC version of the Orange Box and they both go 96 on Metacritic – The PS3 version was nowhere close to that. Left 4 Dead got a 89 or a 90 on 360 and PC,” Lombardi said.

He added: “Until we have the ability to get a PS3 team together, until we find the people who want to come to Valve or who are at Valve who want to work on that, I don’t really see us moving to that platform.”

End of. Please.

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39 Comments

  1. Razor

    Ok, thanks for that Valve.

    #1 6 years ago
  2. Blerk

    The PS3 version of Orange Box scored 89 on Metacritic. That’s hardly ‘nowhere near’ the other versions! :-D

    #2 6 years ago
  3. Armitage

    :D Joystiq seems to be reporting the same story in completely the opposite light to CVG:

    http://www.joystiq.com/2009/07/02/valve-up-on-idea-of-ps3-development-waiting-to-build-talented/

    #3 6 years ago
  4. Blerk

    From the tone of what he said it doesn’t sound like he’s ‘up on the idea of PS3 development’. He says they can’t do it unless they have a dedicated team, but doesn’t actually say that they are hiring a dedicated team.

    #4 6 years ago
  5. TheTwelve

    Armitage—- Interesting how the P.O.V of the people reporting completely change the meaning of the article, eh? Jem Alexander of Joystiq has always been a PS3 fangirl, while (I may be wrong but)Patrick here has never shown a particular bias towards the PS3 during my time reading here.

    12

    #5 6 years ago
  6. notpill

    @blerk

    Joystiq: When asked whether Valve is actively seeking to hire PS3 developers, he noted that “Valve is always looking to hire people. So yeah, definitely.”

    #6 6 years ago
  7. Freek

    In that interview they seem to be explaining more why they aren’t developing for PS3 at this time. But that they are looking to putt together a team who will do this in future.
    Not that they never want to do it.

    #7 6 years ago
  8. Armitage

    @Blerk

    The “up on the idea” thing was in quotes, so make of that what you will. Still, him then saying “we have to get people under our roof who are dedicated, talented PS3 guys and then all bets are off”, I don’t know, doesn’t sound like Valve is exactly ruling out all PS3 development ever to me.

    #8 6 years ago
  9. Blerk

    Well, no. But it doesn’t sound like they’re actively pursuing them either.

    It seems odd to me to stop doing the outsourced versions for the platforms they’re not geared up to support. If they’re worried about the quality not matching up, why not just pay more attention to the studios doing the port?

    #9 6 years ago
  10. notpill

    I dont’ know but maybe because that choice it’s up to the publisher

    #10 6 years ago
  11. Armitage

    It doesn’t sound like they’re actively pursuing them? When asked that question he said “Valve is always looking to hire people. So yeah, definitely.”

    #11 6 years ago
  12. TheTwelve

    Why are we confused by this? This is why Valve has brought crappy ports to the PS3:

    http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/12568/Gabe-Newell-PlayStation-3-Is-a-Total-Disaster/

    Remember that?

    Now that Sony is proving Gabe wrong, Valve has no choice but to begin to think about ways to make more money. Valve will eventually come around but first they have to restructure the direction that Gabe was taking them.

    12

    #12 6 years ago
  13. reask

    A bit silly really imo.
    I mean PS3 has 2 thirds install base so it would surely make sense to be developing for both at present.

    #13 6 years ago
  14. Blerk

    @Armitage: But that sounds like a general “yeah, sometimes we hire people” rather than a “at the minute we’re working hard to put together a kick-arse PS3 team”.

    #14 6 years ago
  15. Whizzo

    Valve aren’t short of a few bob, I don’t think they need to do something they can’t be arsed to do and PS3 development appears to fall into that category.

    #15 6 years ago
  16. Armitage

    @Blerk

    Yeah fair enough.

    #16 6 years ago
  17. Razor

    I wonder if Sony has ever thought about treating its studios as outsourcing studios for third parties.

    Maybe Sony Santa Monica could work on L4D after they’ve done God Of War.

    L4D + Blades of Chaos = Immersion :)

    #17 6 years ago
  18. Armitage

    :D I wonder if you were a PS3 developer and applied to Valve they’d treat you like some sort of social leper.

    #18 6 years ago
  19. Hunam

    I don’t think Valve are coming round the the PS3 at all and it seems he only said it to show that their is no real bias with him. Valve are rich, silly rich actually. They are a private company and one of the largest digital retailers in the world. I don’t think we’ll see them on the PS3 tbh.

    #19 6 years ago
  20. Razor

    Valve may not, but EA might dev Valve games in house for PS3 as they’re the pubs of some of the games.

    Who really cares though…just get the Valve games on PC if they don’t come to PS3.

    #20 6 years ago
  21. Armitage

    Nvm, ignore this post. It was a bit of a rant, I’ve edited it away, apologies.

    #21 6 years ago
  22. TheTwelve

    There is no such thing as a company being so rich that they’ll ignore obvious and feasible ways to get richer. No human institution says “we’ve got enough money now, let’s chill out now and relax”.

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    #22 6 years ago
  23. SniperWolf

    @ TheTwelve
    Patric did show a lot of bias article in the past.

    about Valve
    Valve = laziness.

    #23 6 years ago
  24. Blerk

    Supporting another platform is always a risk, you can’t just say that they’re being ‘lazy’. They’d have to put a whole bunch of extra money into hiring a team, doing the ports, etc. with no guarantee that people will actually buy the end product. Their titles sell to a particular hardcore audience, so perhaps their thinking is that the percentage of that potential audience who only own a PS3 is likely to be quite low. Given that porting to an entirely different architecture is likely to be non-trivial, is it really worth the risk?

    #24 6 years ago
  25. No_PUDding

    Blerk, I really don’t think it’s impartial to interpret it either way.

    They are interested in hiring people in general; people with experience on PS3 come into that, but until they have a team who can produce an equally great game on the platform, they aren’t interested in supporting the PS3 at all.

    #25 6 years ago
  26. SwiftRanger

    They aren’t exactly the only developer on that PC/Xbox360 boat.

    #26 6 years ago
  27. Zarckan

    Lazy, incompetent arses!

    #27 6 years ago
  28. Patrick Garratt

    :P

    #28 6 years ago
  29. No_PUDding

    You may laugh Patrick, but god damn those guys are lazy! I am right, becuase it has been a good two years since episode 2, and it’s taking ages not becuase it’s quality, but becuase they’re lazy. I KNOW that. It’s the truth, forever.

    That’s all.

    #29 6 years ago
  30. David

    Rofl-copter: No_Puding they are not lazy they just take their time with development same as Blizzard take their time. Just look at Starcraft 2 development or diablo 3 development.

    Valve are a PC developer first console developer second. The only reason they even have put valve games on the 360 is cause its simaler in programing language to the PC. If the 360 didn’t have that similarity you can bet your ass Valve wouldn’t bother. Fact is they make more than enough money to be dicks about what format they develop on.

    They are dicks not lazy.

    #30 6 years ago
  31. Cort

    Valve are 360 fanboys with a history of anti-PS3 rants. Should we expect anything else from them? Do we have to hear about it every time they whine about PlayStation?

    #31 6 years ago
  32. No_PUDding

    I was joking, but whatever you too.

    #32 6 years ago
  33. theevilaires

    Cort- I agree

    #33 6 years ago
  34. Armitage

    Well they’ve stated they’re looking to hire PS3 developers. That they are “up on the idea” of PS3 development. Sounds like they are looking to develop games for the PS3 at some point.

    #34 6 years ago
  35. Armitage

    Ah nvm

    #35 6 years ago
  36. David

    No_PUDing I would rofl but I can’t find the joke.

    #36 6 years ago
  37. No_PUDding

    That’s becuase joke has two definitions.

    One of which is funny, the other is not so much, just means someone is not serious.

    #37 6 years ago
  38. Esha

    I believe Valve were supposed to be hiring people for a PS3 team, as well as a Linux team, nothing seems to have come of either though. And it doesn’t help that Left 4 Dead was really rather shit on the 360 compared the vastly superior PC version too (look up comparisons, please don’t just take my word for it).

    I don’t think Valve can do consoles period looking at TF2 (EA did it for the PS3) and how far behind it is, and how poor the L4D port is. I think that Microsoft just threw them a big bag of money and they’re trying, but that they don’t give much of a damn about any console out there is painfully transparent.

    Valve have, are, and always will be a PC-first developer.

    The only reason we get stories like this is because Sony hasn’t offered any financial encouragement yet. Look at Bethesda as an example of this model; they went on about how impossible it was to do DLC on the PS3, about the limitations of hardware, the way the RAM was split, and any other ludicrous idea they could come up with.

    I pointed out how ludicrous this was at the time and that their motivations weren’t at all related to PS3 development difficulties, if anyone cares to remember. So a bit o an ‘I told you so’ there. But I digress…

    The fact of the matter is, anyone can buy an effort, and that’s what the 360 ports are, albeit an incredibly poor effort. Valve will probably find a magical way to suddenly develop for the PS3 too if they’re encouraged enough, because money talks after all.

    But really, even if they did, it’s only going to be a shallow, poorly ported excuse of a game anyway.

    TL;DR: If you want to play anything developed by Valve, you’re going to need a Personal Computer, of either the desktop or laptop variety.

    #38 6 years ago
  39. Hunam

    About Bethesda… erm, what? I don’t remember that, all I remember is Bethesda outright saying Microsoft had paid them money to keep DLC on the PC/360.

    @Razor (despite me being about a day late) EA only distribute the physical product for valve, they own no right to any part of Valve or its games.

    #39 6 years ago

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  • March PS Plus games include OlliOlli 2, Oddworld: New ‘n’ Tasty, more

    March PlayStation Plus titles have popped up on the PS Plus page. Noticed by NeoGAF user skynidas, the titles include: OlliOlli2 (PS4/VITA) Valiant Hearts: The Great War (PS4) Oddworld: New ‘n’ Tasty (PS4) Counterspy (PS4/PS3) Papo & Yo (PS3) Sherlock Holmes: Crimes and Punishment (PS3) A notice has also been posted on the EU PS […]

  • Sci-fi horror game Caffeine will release on Xbox One, PS4 alongside PC – new trailer

    Caffeine creator Dylan Browne has announced the Unreal Engine 4 game will be released on Xbox One. The game will be published through Microsoft’s Indie Program. As previously announced, it is also coming to PC and and now PlayStation 4. Caffeine is a sci-fi horror game which stars a young boy who has been abandoned […]

  • Xbox 360 Preview program invites going out this month

    Much like the Xbox One Preview program, starting early this month, invites for the Xbox 360 Preview program will start rolling out. Select invitees will be able to join program directly from their Xbox 360. A special Xbox Live message will be sent, directing users to head over to their Settings page. Further instructions are […]

  • Tron: Legacy director in negotiations for Gran Turismo film

    Tron: Legacy director Joseph Kosinski is said to be in early negotiations to direct the Gran Turismo film. This is according to the Hollywood Reporter, which states Michael De Luca is still slated as one of the producers alongside Matt Milam, Dana Brunetti, Josh Bratman, DeVon Franklin and Elizabeth Cantillon. Plot details are still unknown […]

  • Fifth add-on pack for Alien: Isolation is available for download

    The Trigger, which is is the fifth add-on pack for Alien: Isolation, is available to download from today. In it, players will “compete against the clock” across three new maps in Survivor Mode. Set before the events of the main game, players step into the shoes of Sevastopol Station’s Ricardo who will do what he […]

  • HBO Go app now available on PlayStation 4

    Sony has announced the HBO Go app will be made available for download later today for PlayStation 4. The app works just like the PS version. Now you can watch True Detective, Game of Thrones, Veep and more through your console. Information on installation is available through the PS Blog.

  • Skyrim mods no longer restricted to 100MB in size

    Bethesda has announced a beta for Creation Kit update 1.9.33, lifts the 100MB size restriction for Skyrim mod makers. The beta is for both Skyrim’s PC launcher and the Creation Kit which will allow for unlimited file sizes. Here are the notes: Creation Kit 1.9.33 Update Creation Kit now supports unlimited file sizes for mods […]

  • Mad Max release date set for September, PS3 and Xbox 360 versions canned

    Mad Max from Just Cause developer Avalanche Studios has been given a September release date, along with the new of a last-gen cancellation. The axing of the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 versions were announced via Game Informer. Mad Max is the magazine’s featured game for the April issue. Avalanche, according GI, nixed development on […]

  • MGS 5: The Phantom Pain out in September, Kojima “closing the loop” on saga

    Metal Gear Solid 5: The Phantom Pain will be released in September, according to an IGN Italy video, which also features Hideo Kojima discussing “With Metal Gear Solid 5, I’m finally “closing the loop” on the Metal Gear saga. The video has since been removed, but an image cap of the date is posted above. […]

  • Forza Horizon 2 Rockstar Energy Car Pack now available

    The Rockstar Energy Car Pack for Forza Horizon 2 for Xbox One is available now, alongside the free car for March. The free car is the Acura Integra Type-R, and the Rockstar pack included the following vehicles: 2014 Volkswagen Beetle GRC 2015 Subaru WRX STI 1996 BMW 850CSi 2015 Jaguar XFR-S 1970 Volkswagen #1107 Desert […]

  • 3DS firmware update kills web browser exploit

    Nintendo has issued a 3DS firmware update which fixes a web browser exploit that was being used to run pirated Game Boy Color ROMs since January as well as inject code within downloadable games. Another piece of code, per Eurogamer, changed the setting on the handheld to make it region-free. The exploit was only available […]

  • Unreal Tournament video shows updated textures on Outpost 23

    The latest footage from Epic’s new Unreal Tournament has surfaced, and it shows off the game’s first high-textured map which is called Outpost 23. As you can see from Zaccubus’ video, its the same are which Epic showed in the flythrough video from last year, only with updated textures and some new areas outside. The […]

  • Final add-on for Sunset Overdrive arrives in April

    The final add-on for Sunset Overdrive, Dawn of the Rise of the Fallen Machines, will be released in April. On April 1 to be exact. No, that’s not an April Fool’s joke from Insomniac Games either. Below, you can watch a fist-look at the new story, area, and traversal mechanic.

  • Heroes of the Storm playable at EGX Rezzed

    Heroes of the Storm will be playable at EGX Rezzed. This will be the first UK public hands-on with the online team brawler. Blizzard will also host giveaways and friendly tournaments at its stand. Tickets for all three days of Rezzed are still available, and you can purchase a pass through the official website. EGX […]

  • PES 2015 Data Pack 4 coming next week with Winter Transfers, new faces

    Data Pack 4 for Pro Evolution Soccer 2015 has been dated, and it updates the game with Winter Transfers, new player faces, and additional stadiums. The latest free update contains real-time player transfers made within the January window, and player ratings have also been updated. Additionally, a number of improved likenesses to key players will […]

  • Here’s the changelog for Dragon Age: Inquisition Patch 5

    Notes for upcoming Patch 5 for Dragon Age: Inquisition have been posted, noting improvements to gameplay and stability, and the new features outlined back in early February. Along with the new party storage system added to the Undercroft at Skyhold, players also have the ability to adjust the size of subtitles. Below you will find […]

  • Game of Thrones, Mortal Kombat X, Batman mobile games on the way

    Warner Bros. has announced free-to-play mobile titles spanning its DC Comics, Mortal Kombat and Game of Thrones properties. The following five new games under development are: Mortal Kombat X from NetherRealm Studios: The game blends fighting and card collection with cinematic gameplay and Fatalities. Play as both classic and fighters, and if you own the […]

  • Win! Beta access to new MMORPG Skyforge and DLC worth $70

    We have ten Wrath of the Gods Founders Packs to giveaway for new RPG Skyforge, worth over $70. All you need to do to win a Wrath of the Gods pack is enter your details in the form below and we’ll pick 10 winners at random on Thursday, March 5, after 3pm GMT. Skyforge is […]

  • PC gaming expected to be worth $35 billion by 2018

    PC gaming is alive and well. In fact, it’s expected to be worth $35 billion by 2018. According to game-business group Open Gaming Alliance, the PC gaming industry is expected to grow beyond its current $26 billion worth and to a massive $35 billion by the year 2018. The information is based on data collected […]

  • Advanced Warfare: new patch adds new weapon, Master Prestige ranks, more

    Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare has received a new patch that gives season pass holders early access to a new weapon and everyone else a myriad of fixes and additions. The patch went live today on Xbox 360 and Xbox One, without any official notes. CharlieIntel reports that among the new additions is the new […]

  • Destiny’s end game and raids explained

    Destiny’s end game can be a bit obtuse to those not used to MMO games. Fear not, we’ve got a few quick tips on how to crack it. Arekkz Gaming has a video for new players of Destiny or those who are looking to brush up on their knowledge of the game. Today’s theme is […]

  • Capcom adds local co-op to Resident Evil: Revelations 2 on PC

    Following fan outrage over lack of local co-op support for the PC version of Resident Evil: Revelations 2, Capcom has now added it. Resident Evil: Revelations 2 now officially supports split-screen local co-op in both campaign and raid mode. The update is currently in beta on Steam, but anyone can opt-in to try it. Capcom […]

  • New Destiny glitch spawns infinite Thralls on Earth

    Destiny’s latest glitch spawns infinite Thralls to help fuel your bounty hunting and loot lust. The glitch is simple to replicate. You’ll need to start The Dark Within mission on Earth, on any difficulty. Then follow the steps in the video below (Via DualShockers) to get to an area out of the map. You’ll then […]

  • Battlefield 4 Winter Patch is here with new game mode, netcode improvements and more

    DICE has released the Winter Patch for Battlefield 4. The patch brings an eSports focus with new game mode Squad Obliteration and plenty more. Battlefield 4 Winter Patch is now live on all platforms. It’s just over 400MB on PC and 1.34GB on consoles. The patch adds new game mode Squad Obliteration and more customisation […]

  • HTC hopes to see Half-Life on VR headset Vive

    Vive manufacturer HTC said that it hopes to see Valve games, including Half-Life, on the virtual reality headset. Speaking to the BBC, HTC chairwoman Cher Wang said that Valve is keen on having its games available on the VR headset. “I think Valve’s best game is Dota, right, and Portal and [Team Fortress] and I […]

  • Make money easily in Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate

    If you’re looking to buy a fell set of armour for your character in Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate but keep falling short on Zenny, this video will show you an easy way to make lots of it. Arekkz Gaming has a very handy tip for all Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate players: how to make Zenny […]

  • This is how you claim free Xbox One games from your Xbox 360

    Microsoft is giving everyone the ability to claim their free Xbox One Games with Gold titles from their Xbox 360 console, even without owning an Xbox One. If you don’t yet own an Xbox One and want to make sure you don’t miss out on all those free Games with Gold games, you’ll be pleased […]

  • Destiny weekly reset for March 3: Heroic and Nightfall detailed

    Bungie has reset the weekly cap of Crucible and Vanguard marks and added new Heroic and Nightfall strikes, now with burn. From now until next Tuesday, the weekly Heroic strike will be The Devil’s Lair with Heroic and Lightswitch modifiers. As for the Nightfall, you’ll be fighting Sepiks Prime with the help of Arc burn. […]

  • Few Mass Effect FemShep cosplays are as elaborate as this one

    The internet is full of Female Commander Shepard cosplay from Mass Effect, but very few are as terrific as this one. Visual artist Freya Willia has spent over two years painstakingly creating the perfect suit of armour and the best weapons to make her cosplay of Female Shepard as authentic as possible, Omni tool and […]

  • Deals with Gold: Assassin’s Creed Unity, Red Dead Redemption and more discounted

    This week’s Deals with Gold titles for Xbox Live subscribers is a good mix of modern games and old favourites. The list of discounted games through this week’s Deals with Gold is live with discounts on Assassin’s Creed Unity, Amazing Spider-Man 2, Red Dead Redemption, Max Payne 3, and more. The deals are live now […]

  • Destiny guide: how to maximise your Grimoire Points

    Destiny players regularly compare the size of their Grimoire Points. Learn how to make yours the biggest. Destiny guide: how to earn Grimoire Points In Destiny, earning most Grimoire cards is just a matter of playing the game, maybe a little more attentively than usual. You’ll either need to complete a certain number of actions […]

  • Shovel Knight: Plague of Shadows will let you play as a baddie

    Shovel Knight owners will benefit from the generosity of Kickstarter backers quite soon. Because Shovel Knight was overfunded during its Kickstarter campaign, developer Yacht Club Games committed to releasing free content updates. The first of these, Plague of Shadows, has now been detailed. The expansion stars baddy Plague Knight, who turns on his former allies, […]

  • GTA controversies, from Hot Coffee to PR manipulation

    GTA has a long history of controversy. The latest Did You Know Gaming tells the full stories behind the sensational headlines. Grand Theft Auto is such a byword for controversy that it’s easy to forget the full context of what actually happened to bring mainstream press, politicians and interest group awareness to the Rockstar series. […]

  • Infamous 2 one of five new PlayStation Now additions for March

    PlayStation Now will expand to the tune of five new games this month. The March PS Now additions are Infamous 2, Twisted Metal, R-Type Dimensions, Alone in the Dark: Inferno and Operation Flashpoint: Red River. PS Now will set you back $20 per month or $45 for a three month subscription. It offers all you […]

  • Final Fantasy 10/10-2 HD Remaster gets PS4 release date

    Final Fantasy 10/10-2 HD Remaster hits PS4 in May. The PS4 release date for Final Fantasy 10/10-2 HD Remaster is May 12 in North America and May 15 in Europe. Gematsu reports a special pre-order bonus calendar with art by Yoshitaka Amano is available through the Square Enix Store and participating retailers. In Europe, pre-ordering […]

  • Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare getting 15 new Prestige levels

    Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare players can now aspire to the ranks of Grand Master Prestige. Advanced Warfare developer Sledgehammer Games will add 15 more Prestige levels to the latest Call of Duty, giving players at max XP a chance to grow even further. According to the Sledgehammer Games blog, when you enter Master level […]

  • Destiny: Crota’s End recreated in Minecraft

    Destiny’s toughest challenge gets even nastier if you throw Creepers into the mix. The ultimate Destiny challenge – for now – is the Crota’s End raid. Taking place in an alternate dimension accessed through the Hellmouth on the Moon, the Raid takes Guardians through a pit of darkness to the resting place of Crota himself. […]

  • Xenoblade Chronicles 3D trailer introduces the Heir to the Monado

    Xenoblade Chronicles 3D protagonist Shulk is the Heir to the Monado, his distinctive red sword. Let this trailer fill you in on what that means. Xenoblade Chronicles 3D releases for New 3DS on April 2 in Europe and April 10 in North America. As well as all the content of the Wii original, it has […]