E3 2009 – Sony press conference liveblog!

Tuesday, 2nd June 2009 18:22 GMT By Patrick Garratt


It’s so on. Microsoft delivered a blistering E3 keynote in LA yesterday, leaving many shellshocked at the depth and quantity of its announcements and Sony with everything to do in its conference today.

PSP Go’s a cert, as are God of War III, Heavy Rain and the like, but what else? We could tell you what we know, but we’d be in mortal danger.

Don’t blink, for God’s sake. It’s make or break time. Nuke or die. Boom or bust.

The Sony E3 press conference starts at 11.00am PST/7.00pm BST/8.00pm CET. Get our liveblog after the break.

If you’re after streaming video, check IGN, Gametrailers, Gamespot or G4.



  1. Gekidami

    Tell us what you know eh… Well i beleive Pat knows what this ‘BBC game’ is so i’m guessing it’ll be making a show.

    #1 6 years ago
  2. daytripper

    will the “bbc game” be making a showing? i’ll paypal you £13.47 if you answer

    #2 6 years ago

    I reckon this is gonna be HUGE!!

    #3 6 years ago
  4. Razor

    I heartily recommend the Gamespot stream…been flawless streams for MS and Nintendo.

    #4 6 years ago
  5. Gekidami

    Hard to say, Sony have already announced alot of their future games chances are they’ve already shot a good amount of their load. I just hope they dont hang around to much on PSP stuff, i honnestly dont give a shit about it.

    #5 6 years ago
  6. Roybott

    Yeah Gamespot stream has been good to me so far (touch wood), and has full screen butotn unlike one of the others (G4 i think)

    #6 6 years ago
  7. Razor

    I like how you’re building this up Pat…

    #7 6 years ago
  8. daytripper

    the guys i know at sony liverpool know a couple of things and wont tell me ffs

    #8 6 years ago
  9. Robo_1

    Sony so better have some huge guns to fire back at MS. A price drop and TRICO would probably win it for a lot of people.

    #9 6 years ago
  10. Gekidami

    Can a price drop even be a secret? Retailers are forced to be told in advance and they’re all as leaky as gut syndrome. Unless its a really distant price drop.

    #10 6 years ago
  11. Razor

    I just want to see GT5 in some form…anything, even if it’s just a trailer I don’t care, just…something….

    #11 6 years ago
  12. Psychotext

    Hopefully this will be good. GT5 & TRICO or bust!

    #12 6 years ago
  13. Shatner

    Like with all other conferences, I’m hoping for something completely unexpected and compelling but not gimmicky. Surprises with substance are where it’s at.

    I will, of course, fap furiously over anything God of War related.

    #13 6 years ago
  14. Cort

    Sony desperately need a good show. I’m worried for them.

    #14 6 years ago
  15. ashers2ashers

    you have to get a bus there?!

    #15 6 years ago
  16. daytripper

    heavy rain night club scene demoed, with a release date

    TRICO Trailer with Spring 2010 date

    Wipeout HD expansion pack with price

    God of War 3 gameplay and release date


    #16 6 years ago
  17. theevilaires

    this is it folks be prepared to be blown away

    #17 6 years ago
  18. theevilaires

    Cort said:
    Sony desperately need a good show. I’m worried for them.

    HAHAHAHA you fool no faith, you disgust me. begone!

    #18 6 years ago
  19. Gekidami

    Thats another thing i dont want to see; Sony showcasing stuff they’ve already demoed in pre-E3 stuff.

    #19 6 years ago
  20. Razor

    If Tretton comes out at the start and just has an honest moment and says that it’s been a difficult year for Sony has a whole he will instantly command a tonne of respect.

    #20 6 years ago
  21. Goliath

    I need release dates. Too many titles are rumored to have slipped to 2010.

    #21 6 years ago
  22. theevilaires

    if he says firmware 3.0 he will start a riot let alone be given respect.

    #22 6 years ago
  23. Psychotext

    “if he says firmware 3.0 he will start a riot”

    Doesn’t that depend on what’s in said firmware?

    #23 6 years ago
  24. Razor

    An NXE equivalent would be pretty cool…though Koller has said it’s unlikely, which is a shame.

    #24 6 years ago
  25. Gekidami

    The PS3 dosnt really need an interface upgrade though plenty of other basic options the 360 has are lacking.

    #25 6 years ago
  26. theevilaires

    of course it does and assuming what they have to further approve psn on i say 3.0 should fill in the rest of the gaps.

    #26 6 years ago
  27. Psychotext

    Maybe they’ll fix the battery/clock. That would be a megaton. :D

    I’d actually laugh for real, would be awesome.

    #27 6 years ago
  28. theevilaires

    Razor said: An NXE equivalent would be pretty cool…though Koller has said it’s unlikely, which is a shame.

    who is this idiot, someone explain

    #28 6 years ago
  29. Goliath

    A price drop is needed. Killzone 2 underperformed at retail and the early return on Infamous are lackluster. The software isn’t flying off shelves. The longer they wait to drop the price the more stagnant sales remain. No one wants to buy a console and have them drop the price a week or two later.

    #29 6 years ago
  30. theevilaires

    maybe they will fix that, but i’m hoping for the real upgrade in-game xmb chat

    #30 6 years ago
  31. Gekidami

    The XMB is perfect TEA, is dosnt need changing.

    #31 6 years ago
  32. Robo_1

    OHHHH Yeah – BRING.IT.ON :)

    Love E3 :)

    #32 6 years ago
  33. Goliath

    There are rumors swirling at E3 of a Sony Mass Effect 2 announcement. Anyone thinks it could be true?

    #33 6 years ago
  34. Psychotext

    Goliath: Quite possible… given EA basically ignored the game at their conference and MS didn’t show it.

    #34 6 years ago
  35. theevilaires

    Goliath said:Killzone 2 underperformed

    how?, sales wise? who said kz was going to do halo numbers. you forget the playstation brand wasn’t built behind one genre like xbox. killzone is a technical master piece that M$ has yet to out do.

    #35 6 years ago
  36. theevilaires

    Gekidami said: The XMB is perfect TEA, is dosnt need changing.

    i never said it did gek

    #36 6 years ago
  37. Robo_1

    Moments, people, moments :)

    #37 6 years ago
  38. Gekidami

    “Thank you good morning and welcome! Please take your seats!”
    The MS and Nintendo conferences were missing that, atleast i didnt hear it.

    #38 6 years ago
  39. Goliath

    @ theevilaires

    We’re not talking about what the game technically brings but at the rate it’s selling you know the turn around to profit will be a uphill clime. Sony admitted, they had bigger expectations.

    #39 6 years ago
  40. Gekidami

    Queen! Awesome.

    #40 6 years ago
  41. Goliath

    Great intro but Beatles >>>>> Queen. Great choice of music though.

    #41 6 years ago
  42. theevilaires

    i’m sure they did but i never read that statement before. many things have contributed to kz’s slow sales as you may put it. if i were to drop a list i’m sure you couldn’t disagree but i’m not here for that. kz will continue to sell as long as sony drops the price of the ps3. which i’m not holding my breath for

    #42 6 years ago
  43. theevilaires

    can’t wait to watch this in home later!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    #43 6 years ago
  44. Goliath

    @ theevilaires

    That’s what I’m saying. Drop the price and the hardware and software will fly off the shelves.

    #44 6 years ago
  45. Psychotext

    Good god… they’ve got the “rent a whooper” crowd from the Ubisoft conference.

    #45 6 years ago
  46. Gekidami

    PS2 *yawn*
    Funny how he opened on the media leak and the public seems more active then at the other conferences.
    And i think Queen owns the Beatles :p

    #46 6 years ago
  47. Goliath

    Dude can’t pronounce Uruguay.

    #47 6 years ago
  48. Psychotext

    Show us some stuff… don’t suck yourself off.

    #48 6 years ago
  49. Psychotext

    That’s more like it.

    #49 6 years ago
  50. Goliath

    UC2. Sweet!

    #50 6 years ago
  51. Goliath

    God, they should have demoed co-op play.

    #51 6 years ago
  52. theevilaires

    24 million unique users?! wow

    #52 6 years ago
  53. Goliath

    Animations seem even better than the first game. Is that possible?! :o

    #53 6 years ago
  54. Psychotext

    Looking good.

    #54 6 years ago
  55. Rhythm

    That reminds me, I need to download the Uncharted 2 MP beta/demo tonight

    #55 6 years ago
  56. Goliath

    Now that was SWEET!!!!

    #56 6 years ago
  57. Goliath

    MAG time!

    #57 6 years ago
  58. theevilaires

    of course its possible, this is the cell processor we’re talking about :P

    #58 6 years ago
  59. Psychotext

    Ok… the crowd is annoying, as much as the Ubisoft lot.

    #59 6 years ago
  60. theevilaires

    have fun Rhythm

    #60 6 years ago
  61. Goliath

    Full 256 demo!!! WOW!!!

    #61 6 years ago
  62. theevilaires

    thats because they’re sony fanboys :P

    #62 6 years ago
  63. Goliath

    Interface is a clusterf**k though.

    #63 6 years ago
  64. theevilaires

    mag demo, no f-ing way, 256 players….still think its going to suck though

    #64 6 years ago
  65. Goliath

    If you liked Battlefield 2 this is right up your alley. A bit overwhelming though but in a good way.

    #65 6 years ago
  66. Psychotext

    Not sold on this.

    #66 6 years ago
  67. theevilaires

    i agree psycho

    #67 6 years ago
  68. Goliath

    Neither am I. Really underwhelming.

    #68 6 years ago
  69. Psychotext

    Ok, time to nuke the crowd from orbit. Sorry EG / VG247 associates.

    #69 6 years ago
  70. Goliath

    Their conference is all over the place though. They go from 1 to the other to another. Just focus on one platform at a time please.

    #70 6 years ago
  71. theevilaires

    lol wheres mr. masters degree, hes been quiet for a while. i hope he doesn’t have the gun in his mouth ready to pull the trigger if sony drops a gigaton :P

    #71 6 years ago
  72. Psychotext

    Grah, still fugly.

    #72 6 years ago
  73. theevilaires

    they are too excited they must have the biggest ace up their sleeves that only GOD knows about. come on sony you can do it!

    #73 6 years ago
  74. theevilaires

    what the psp go, shit we’re on a roll today psycho i agree with you again. i hope it fails big time…sorry sony :P

    #74 6 years ago
  75. Psychotext

    I like it when it’s closed, but good god it’s nasty when it’s open.

    #75 6 years ago
  76. theevilaires

    its a damn video player because i don’t know who in the hell would want to play games on that shit. keep it closed and watch vids or listen to music. psp 2000 ftw

    #76 6 years ago
  77. Psychotext

    That price can’t be right can it?

    #77 6 years ago
  78. Psychotext


    :( :| :(

    #78 6 years ago
  79. theevilaires

    fucking fail bye bye psp “no” go

    #79 6 years ago
  80. Goliath

    Man, they’re threading water right now. There blowing it right now.

    #80 6 years ago
  81. OrphanageExplosion

    PSP Go pricing is officially a joke, surely?

    #81 6 years ago
  82. Psychotext

    lol… that’s not a translator. It’s someone who can read. :D

    #82 6 years ago
  83. Robo_1

    U2 looked pure amaze, PSPGo was nothing new and is surprisingly expensive. no wshow us Gran Turismo.

    #83 6 years ago
  84. Gekidami

    He has to write what he says, no teleprompter like the MS conference… Apart from for the figures.

    #84 6 years ago
  85. Psychotext

    I know times are hard Sony, but surely proper translators aren’t that expensive?

    #85 6 years ago
  86. theevilaires

    ok im going to stop now cause this is going down hill….DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    you can take the gun out of your mouth now bowden, looks like M$ may have gotten the upper hand again :(

    #86 6 years ago
  87. Gekidami

    This GT-PSP bit is TO LONG!

    #87 6 years ago
  88. Seraphemz

    Cant wait for Go…price doesnt scare me

    #88 6 years ago
  89. Goliath

    @ theevilaires

    I know right. They started great with 2 great PS3 showings and then jumped to PSP Go. Seriously, they should just focus on one thing. By the time they get back to PS3 the audience has already lost interest.

    #89 6 years ago
  90. theevilaires

    Seraphemz said: Cant wait for Go…price doesnt scare me

    you scare me seraphemz :P

    #90 6 years ago
  91. Goliath

    They’re 50 minutes into a 2 hour conference. I will get better. I HAS to get better.

    #91 6 years ago
  92. Goliath

    Kojima. Let’s go!

    #92 6 years ago
  93. Seraphemz

    Whatever evil…

    YOU SCARE me…ur starting to sound like a 360 fan..

    #93 6 years ago
  94. Psychotext

    Well… 40 after the delay. ;)

    1hr 20m left.

    Oh, Kojima. I’m surprised no-one is shouting traitor at him. :p

    #94 6 years ago
  95. Gekidami

    Its just the PSP game /rolls eyes

    #95 6 years ago
  96. Goliath

    Kojima is such a hipster. Or thinks he is!

    #96 6 years ago
  97. Psychotext

    Yay, a proper translator.

    #97 6 years ago
  98. theevilaires

    i agree goliath,but this is sony and they’ve been in tighter places, lets see if they can pull themselves back up.

    #98 6 years ago
  99. Goliath

    Kojima emphasized his and MGS4 team’s involvement in the title.

    #99 6 years ago
  100. Monk

    oh no, not again.
    very Expensive Price for PSP GO !!

    #100 6 years ago
  101. theevilaires

    M$ is the light Seraphemz, don’t fight it. The power of the RROD will consume all. its just a matter of time before we convert you too. stop fighting it and “JUMP IN”

    #101 6 years ago
  102. Seraphemz

    Its the “TRUE” sequel….LOL

    #102 6 years ago
  103. Goliath

    Trailer was a pretty impressive. Much more than you get from a Kojima trailer. This game must be far along in development.

    #103 6 years ago
  104. Seraphemz

    damn you EVIL !!!

    #104 6 years ago
  105. Goliath

    @ theevilaires

    I like that. Jump in and be baptisized in the glow of the RROD!

    #105 6 years ago
  106. Psychotext

    Ok… That was a freaking odd ending to the trailer.

    #106 6 years ago
  107. Seraphemz

    See what you guys did…you pissed off PT.

    #107 6 years ago
  108. Psychotext

    Do what now?

    #108 6 years ago
  109. Gekidami

    “The next true step in MGS” …? So Rising isnt?

    #109 6 years ago
  110. theevilaires

    Seraphemz you’re fighting a war we can’t win anymore. please don’t resist join us…. XBOX is the future

    #110 6 years ago
  111. Goliath

    Rising is an all new story and direction that focuses solely on Raiden. It isn’t a sequel. It’s an action game tailored to a more Western audience. Even more so that MGS4 was.

    #111 6 years ago
  112. Psychotext

    Ok, bored with this. Off to cook… will be back for PS3 stuff.

    #112 6 years ago
  113. Seraphemz

    Evil – I hope you are kidding.

    #113 6 years ago
  114. Goliath

    God dammit, why not just show all the PS3 stuff and then move on. I have to sit through all this crap before the return to PS3 stuff. And can we please get some God damn release dates?!

    #114 6 years ago
  115. Gekidami

    “our install base OF UNIQUE CONSOLES” they learn.

    #115 6 years ago
  116. OrphanageExplosion

    Are they really focusing the Presser on PSP with just the odd bit of PS3?

    #116 6 years ago
  117. theevilaires

    just tossed my original 20gig and 60gig ps3′s out the window. I’m afraid I’m dead serious Seraphemz. This day truly marks the end of an era. The book of PlayStation has finally closed in my life. It was fun but all good things must come to an end sometime…

    #117 6 years ago
  118. Goliath

    50 PSX classics coming to PS Store this year. Final Fantasy VII available TODAY.

    #118 6 years ago
  119. Goliath

    Guys calm down. They’re getting back to the PS3. Odd shift to PSP I know but they’re getting back to PS3 in a round about way. Calm down Evil.

    #119 6 years ago
  120. Psychotext

    Oh Home… yay.

    #120 6 years ago
  121. Goliath

    Psychotext said: June 2, 2009 at 8:06 pm
    Oh Home… yawn.


    #121 6 years ago
  122. Seraphemz

    Dude..its because since Micro ONLY has one thing…they are hating on all the things that SONY has..

    #122 6 years ago
  123. theevilaires

    P.S. can someone tell shatner i love him. thank you and goodbye.

    ( not in a gay way, just like the brother i always wanted to have way )

    #123 6 years ago
  124. Goliath

    All the energy has left that room!

    #124 6 years ago
  125. Psychotext

    Plenty of time left for good stuff.


    #125 6 years ago
  126. Seraphemz

    Hey was that Natal they showed …with a little monkey (lol)

    #126 6 years ago
  127. Gekidami

    LP2 confirmed for PS3 just then

    #127 6 years ago
  128. Psychotext

    Ooh… the PS3 exclusive finally?

    #128 6 years ago
  129. Seraphemz

    ROCKSTAR !!!!!!!

    DAMN…no vid !!

    #129 6 years ago
  130. Goliath

    Exclusive PS3 Rockstar title Agent.

    #130 6 years ago
  131. Psychotext

    WTF? They didn’t show anything. :(

    #131 6 years ago
  132. Seraphemz

    that sucks…

    #132 6 years ago
  133. OrphanageExplosion

    The Live Text is only marginally more interesting than the IGN video feed. And that’s because there’s about two minutes of lag on the stream.

    #133 6 years ago
  134. Psychotext


    #134 6 years ago
  135. Seraphemz

    AC2 gameplay…nice.

    #135 6 years ago
  136. Goliath

    With Red Dead, LA Noire, Max Payne and a new GTA all coming from Rockstar, when will Agent be out?

    #136 6 years ago
  137. Goliath

    Sitting on a bench and talking to bums makes a return! YAY!

    #137 6 years ago
  138. Seraphemz

    No vids, or pics… probably not for a while

    #138 6 years ago
  139. G1GAHURTZ

    Don’t worry TEA… The conference ain’t over yet. Relax man!

    #139 6 years ago
  140. Goliath

    AC2 looks the same as AC1. Meh.

    #140 6 years ago
  141. Seraphemz


    #141 6 years ago
  142. Goliath

    Why demo a multiplatform title when you have a wealth of exclusive titles? There is 40 minutes left though.

    #142 6 years ago
  143. Goliath

    Jumping into hay makes a return! YAY!

    #143 6 years ago
  144. G1GAHURTZ

    I can’t believe the PSP Go is so expensive btw!

    #144 6 years ago
  145. Goliath

    Yeh, it’s a much as a console.

    #145 6 years ago
  146. Goliath

    More multiplatform stuff. YAY!

    #146 6 years ago
  147. Goliath

    English voice acting in place though. Not bad.

    #147 6 years ago
  148. OrphanageExplosion

    Mr Ubisoft looks impossibly pleased with himself. Hard drugs?

    #148 6 years ago
  149. Goliath

    Assassin’s Creed, Price of Persia, Far Cry 2, Rainbow Six Vegas 2. Ubisoft has nothing to be please about.

    #149 6 years ago
  150. Gekidami

    FF14 …? Huh?

    #150 6 years ago
  151. Psychotext


    #151 6 years ago
  152. Goliath


    #152 6 years ago
  153. Seraphemz

    Goliath – did you say the same at 360 ?? Or did they ONLY show exclusives…

    OHHHHHHHHHHH…FF14 BURdsjhalkd MEGATON fdsjkhfds

    #153 6 years ago
  154. OrphanageExplosion

    It’s the drugs then. Or the beard. Chicks dig the beard.

    #154 6 years ago
  155. Goliath

    FFXIV When FFXIII is even out yet and no mention of Versus XIII?! What?! 2010?!!!

    #155 6 years ago
  156. Goliath

    MMO?! Maybe?!

    #156 6 years ago
  157. G1GAHURTZ

    WHAT THE!?!?

    #157 6 years ago
  158. Psychotext

    What oddness is this?

    #158 6 years ago
  159. Roybott

    ONLINE == MMO?

    #159 6 years ago
  160. Gekidami

    The crowds reaction was epic to that.

    #160 6 years ago
  161. Goliath

    @ Seraphemz

    Wanted to see more exclusive stuff from Sony and release dates. Like GoW3, Heavy Rain, MAG.

    #161 6 years ago
  162. G1GAHURTZ

    Here we go!!!

    #162 6 years ago
  163. Psychotext

    Ahh… MMO.

    #163 6 years ago
  164. Blerk

    That was AWESOME until they said it was an MMO. And then it all went to meh.

    #164 6 years ago
  165. Goliath

    I have friends that love FFXI, but I’m totally “meh” about it.

    #165 6 years ago
  166. Gekidami

    Nervous doctor.

    #166 6 years ago
  167. Psychotext

    Waggle time.

    #167 6 years ago
  168. Seraphemz

    its not over GIGA….

    #168 6 years ago
  169. Psychotext

    IT’S A SEX TOY! :D

    #169 6 years ago
  170. Blerk

    Did they just unveil some kind of glowy dildo?

    #170 6 years ago
  171. Blerk

    Get out of my brain, Psycho! :-D

    #171 6 years ago
  172. Goliath

    Why are publishers so quick to push MMOs on consoles. I really don’t think Massive Multiplayer, Persistent environment will work on consoles. Can we get some VS XIII new. What the f**k!!

    #172 6 years ago
  173. Goliath

    WOW! YAWN!! What the f**k is this lame crap!?!

    #173 6 years ago
  174. Psychotext

    No brainer… no brain.

    #174 6 years ago
  175. Seraphemz

    yeah they should skip this..

    #175 6 years ago
  176. Goliath

    Dude, where is God of War 3? Is it closing the show?!

    #176 6 years ago
  177. Goliath

    Where is Heavy Rain? It’s playable at E3 isn’t it?

    #177 6 years ago
  178. Goliath

    This is the step between MotionPlus and Natal. Lame.

    #178 6 years ago
  179. Goliath

    Where is my Mass Effect 2 announcement?!

    #179 6 years ago
  180. Psychotext

    They probably should have dropped this after yesterday.

    #180 6 years ago
  181. Seraphemz

    The accuracy is pretty amazing..but how long is this going to take to come out..

    #181 6 years ago
  182. G1GAHURTZ

    This stuff looks amazing!

    #182 6 years ago
  183. Goliath

    @ G1GHURTZ

    Really?! Amazing?! Are you kidding me?

    #183 6 years ago
  184. Seraphemz

    I actually liked the bow and arrow concept…that would be cool in a game..

    #184 6 years ago
  185. Goliath

    I can’t wait for all the dildo jokes.

    #185 6 years ago
  186. G1GAHURTZ

    No joke man… The potential is huge!

    #186 6 years ago
  187. Goliath

    Slideshow for JoyRide PS3. YAY!

    #187 6 years ago
  188. Seraphemz

    yeah the remote stuff was lame, but the shield and sword, the bow and arrow would be really cool to do…

    #188 6 years ago
  189. Psychotext

    I hope you’ve been saying the same thing about the Wii Motion + GHz…

    #189 6 years ago
  190. Goliath


    Yeah, John Holmes huge.

    #190 6 years ago
  191. Robo_1

    Wiimotion Plus for PS3 then. Not surprising, but maybe a little underwhelming in the face of MS’s announcement. We’ll see where they take it, hopefully they’ll leverage the camera and deliver something a bit more special than just Wiimotion plus.

    #191 6 years ago
  192. G1GAHURTZ

    Now Modnation Racers looks really cool!

    #192 6 years ago
  193. Goliath

    Really, was it really cool when it was JoyRide yesterday?! Seriously, the time given to these presentations are really surprising.

    #193 6 years ago
  194. Psychotext

    I like the creation… but I doubt I’d play the game.

    #194 6 years ago
  195. Blerk

    Build your own racer looks fairly amusing. Surprised they didn’t go the whole hog and just stick Sackboys in there, tbh.

    #195 6 years ago
  196. G1GAHURTZ

    The PS3 thing looks better than WMP though…

    Besides, all that WMP will end up getting used with is some rubbish Wii sports clones and not much else.

    If they can use these wands for some actually good HD games, I’m sure the results will be more than impressive.

    #196 6 years ago
  197. Goliath

    10 minutes left. Can I get God of War 3 now? Please announce for Christmas. Please.

    #197 6 years ago
  198. G1GAHURTZ

    Don’t get me wrong, JoyRide looked cool too!

    The more cool stuff, the better!

    #198 6 years ago
  199. Seraphemz


    #199 6 years ago
  200. Goliath


    Red Steel 2 and No More Heroes 2 seem like a good place to start with WMP.

    #200 6 years ago
  201. Gekidami


    #201 6 years ago
  202. Psychotext


    #202 6 years ago
  203. Goliath

    Sneak peak time.

    #203 6 years ago
  204. Goliath

    The Last Guardian

    #204 6 years ago
  205. Seraphemz

    YES !!!! Thank you !!!

    #205 6 years ago
  206. Goliath

    I want it!

    #206 6 years ago
  207. G1GAHURTZ

    That looks familiar!

    #207 6 years ago
  208. Gekidami

    lol diiferent gfx

    #208 6 years ago
  209. Seraphemz

    Its the same vid that PSLS leaked.

    #209 6 years ago
  210. G1GAHURTZ

    Seen this before mate!

    #210 6 years ago
  211. Psychotext

    I think I like the old one better. =/

    #211 6 years ago
  212. Goliath

    Love the art style.

    #212 6 years ago
  213. Seraphemz

    Small changes… the clothes the kid has on

    #213 6 years ago
  214. Gekidami

    the gfx engine is completly different

    #214 6 years ago
  215. Goliath

    Yeah, it the leaked footage but it’s still good to see.

    #215 6 years ago
  216. Seraphemz

    ok…new stuff !!!!!

    #216 6 years ago
  217. Goliath

    That was pretty SWEET!!!

    #217 6 years ago
  218. G1GAHURTZ


    Just don’t mention GT5!! LOL!

    #218 6 years ago
  219. fearmonkey

    of all the games shown so far, last Guardian seems the most intereting. The leaked trailer was great.

    #219 6 years ago
  220. Goliath

    GT5 time!

    #220 6 years ago
  221. Goliath

    Release date please.

    #221 6 years ago
  222. Blerk

    Last Guardian looks smashing!

    #222 6 years ago
  223. Goliath

    NASCAR license?

    #223 6 years ago
  224. Psychotext

    Hmm… slight body deformation. Was that proper damage or not?

    #224 6 years ago
  225. Seraphemz

    GOD OF WAR !!!

    #225 6 years ago
  226. Goliath

    God of War 3. Release date please?!!

    #226 6 years ago
  227. Goliath

    Live demo.

    #227 6 years ago
  228. Goliath

    AHHHHHHHHH!!!!! CRAZY!!!!!

    #228 6 years ago
  229. Goliath

    Harpy boobs. ewwwwww

    #229 6 years ago
  230. JonFE

    Boobs! Nipples!! OOH!!! MY EYES!!!

    #230 6 years ago
  231. Psychotext

    I was expecting to be more blown away by GoW.

    Still… GT & TRICO = Win!

    #231 6 years ago
  232. Psychotext

    So… they need to end this with a price drop announcement or it’s all for naught.

    #232 6 years ago
  233. Goliath

    The action adventure genre is back, big time. Darksiders, Dante’s Inferno, Bayonetta, God of War 3, Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2. WOW!!!

    #233 6 years ago
  234. Blerk

    GoW3 looks excellent!

    #234 6 years ago
  235. Psychotext

    This is too long.

    #235 6 years ago
  236. Goliath

    God these guys and Sony Santa Monica are creative. How do they come up with these enemies.

    #236 6 years ago
  237. Goliath

    @ Psychotext

    I think you weren’t really impressed because it’s really more of the same. But that’s what make it so effing exciting man! It’s God of freaking War!!!

    #237 6 years ago
  238. Psychotext

    Oh dear…

    #238 6 years ago
  239. Goliath

    Wasted time on AC2 and Waggle controller. No Heavy Rain release date or demo, no MAG release date. A bit underwhelming.

    #239 6 years ago
  240. Len

    That was…underwhelming to say the least.

    Last Guardian looked beautiful but that’s about it for me.

    #240 6 years ago
  241. Blerk

    Tric…. Last Guardian and GoW3 were great. Rockstar announcement is tentatively interesting. The rest…. er… yeah.

    But they did better than I thought they would! I wonder why we didn’t see Heavy Rain, though? Seems odd.

    #241 6 years ago
  242. Goliath

    No Ratchet and Clank even.

    #242 6 years ago
  243. Syrok

    Wasn’t underwhelming for me.
    Last Guardian, GT5 (with WRC) is all very good in my book. The glowing vibrator waggle thing was cool too, even if Natal looked more impressive. Eitherway Nintendo has some work to do. Motion Plus is not really cutting it anymore, by the looks of it.

    I could list Agent and FFXIV as well, but I don’t care about the latter and don’t know anything about the former.

    #243 6 years ago
  244. Gekidami

    No Vs. XIII either.

    #244 6 years ago
  245. daytripper

    that was shite although god of war and uncharted looked great. no heavy rain release date??? god of war 3 2010?

    #245 6 years ago
  246. Goliath

    Where the hell are all the exclusives. White Knight Chronicles announcement. Yakuza 3 stateside and Europe. What the hell man. You mean Uncharted 2 and another Ratchet and Clank is all the bolsters 2009?!

    #246 6 years ago
  247. Gekidami

    They did bother announcing stuff thats already well and truely announced.

    #247 6 years ago
  248. Goliath

    I can’t believe the focused on Agent and a Final Fantasy MMO when we get no mention of games on the horizon. Is VS XIII still coming?

    #248 6 years ago
  249. Blerk

    I don’t think Nintendo does have work to do, Syrok. After all, regardless of how impressive Sony or Microsoft’s tech appears to be, they’re still add-ons and not integral to the system. Nintendo’s stuff is available right now and is the standard controller – they’ll still easily be the first port of call for the casuals and the bi/curious.

    Although Natal didn’t half cause some conversation among the non-gamers around my office this morning. But talking about it and actually buying it are two very different things.

    #249 6 years ago
  250. G1GAHURTZ

    I give sony a strong 8/10 for that conference.

    Loads of cool games, motion control looked cool, etc.

    Get marked down for coming up with a stupid price for the PSP.

    MS conference was a strong 9/10, and Nintendo gets a 6/10 too.

    #250 6 years ago
  251. Goliath

    @ Gekidami

    Gimme some damn release dates. Even if you tell me Heavy Rain is coming Spring 2010, I’ll feel better about a release window. Tell me White Knight Chronicles is on it’s way to Europe and N/A. Tell me Yakuza 3 is on the horizon. Tell me something.

    #251 6 years ago
  252. Syrok

    @Blerk that is true, too.

    The Sony waggle thing looked more like what I was expecting from the Wii.

    #252 6 years ago
  253. G1GAHURTZ

    E3 isn’t over yet… There’s still plenty of time to talk to the press about dates and other releases…

    #253 6 years ago
  254. Seraphemz

    I think that if anything, Micro and Sony tied…

    IMO…obviously SONY was better

    #254 6 years ago
  255. Syrok

    @Goliath: WKC was in the trailer that covered half of the games coming out, so I guess that confirms it’s coming to NA.

    #255 6 years ago
  256. G1GAHURTZ

    Well if even you are calling it just a tie Seraphemz, I can’t be too wrong.


    #256 6 years ago
  257. Blerk

    I think they pretty much tied on games. Microsoft won out on the ‘wow’ factor, despite me finding it about as interesting as… the Wii! :-D

    #257 6 years ago
  258. Seraphemz

    I dont really think that Micro came out with something HUGE… Natal was cool..but what else? Raiden just showed pics… and what..HALO games ??

    #258 6 years ago
  259. Seraphemz

    More GOW on G4…

    #259 6 years ago
  260. theevilaires

    tied on games… are you crazy? man this guy actually believes the bullshit that comes out of his mouth

    #260 6 years ago
  261. Blerk

    Well, there were two games at the Microsoft conference that I really liked the look of, and two at the Sony conference that I really liked the look of. Draw! See? :-D

    #261 6 years ago
  262. Seraphemz

    what were they?

    #262 6 years ago
  263. Goliath

    Microsoft announced Halo ODST coming in September, Forza 3 in October, Splinter Cell Conviction and Left 4 Dead 2 in November and Alan Wake in Spring 2010 and Mass Effect announce by EA as early 2010 as well as Crackdown 2 and Halo: Reach which may have impressive showings next E3. The games showed impressed. They demoed Modern Warfare 2 and FFXIII running on XBox 360 hardware and Natal had a very impressive showing and may be the most exciting thing coming out of E3. They also landed a Metal Gear Solid game developed by Kojima Productions. Anyone who think Sony had a more impressive showing is a fanboy. I got nothing. Not even a release date for Uncharted 2.

    #263 6 years ago
  264. Blerk

    Alan Wake and Crackdown 2 versus Last Guardian and God of War 3. I would’ve included Final Fantasy XIII, but that was at both so they cancel each other out. Tentative interest in a couple of others from both conferences too, so all in all they both did about the same for me.

    Sony’s first-party stuff seemed more comprehensive than Microsoft’s, though. I expected more non-Halo first-party titles from MS.

    #264 6 years ago
  265. G1GAHURTZ

    I think you summed it up pretty well there, Goliath.

    #265 6 years ago
  266. Seraphemz

    2009 line-up for Sony is already known and has been known.

    We saw FF 14 exclusive.

    Uncharted 2 gameplay was AMAZING

    Heard about Rockstar Eclusive.

    Saw official Trico game.

    God of War Demo.

    Metal Gear PSP.

    Gran Turismo PSP

    Assasins Creed PSP..

    COME ON !!!

    #266 6 years ago
  267. Goliath

    So is Uncharted 2 coming out this year?

    #267 6 years ago
  268. Seraphemz

    its been said that its coming out 2009.

    #268 6 years ago
  269. Goliath

    @ Seraphemz

    What is the rest of the lineup for the year? Another Ratchet and Clank ( . . . a franchise that needs to be put to rest) and Uncharted 2 which didn’t even get a release timetable.

    #269 6 years ago
  270. Seraphemz

    Heavy Rain is coming out 09 as well.

    #270 6 years ago
  271. theevilaires

    goliath you are an idiot if you think uncharted is not coming this year.

    Natal is next year which doesn’t do anyone any good because the tech is probably too expensive.

    Halo: really getting old

    Crackdown: infamous is better

    Alan wake: silent hill clone= BORING!!!!

    Modern Warfare 2 and FFXIII running on XBox 360 hardware: don’t make me laugh kid.

    a Metal Gear Solid game developed by Kojima Productions.

    yes by Kojima Productions, not Kojima!!!!!!!! and nt a true sequel its a spin off, i hated Ac!d.

    Left4dead: SO MEH

    Splinter Cell Conviction: we get real next Metal Gear

    #271 6 years ago
  272. Blerk

    Are you sure about that? I thought they’d already said it was a 2010 release. Regardless, Cage can’t get anything done on time – we’ll probably be lucky to see it before 2011. :-D

    #272 6 years ago
  273. Seraphemz

    Oh…and MAG and The Agency

    #273 6 years ago
  274. Goliath

    Heavy Rain is not coming out this year. You and I both know this. It wasn’t even at the conference even though it’s playable at E3. They said on G4TV it’s coming 2010.

    #274 6 years ago
  275. Seraphemz

    Im watching G4 right now and its on…lets see what he says.

    #275 6 years ago
  276. Goliath

    MAG isn’t coming this year either and if it is, it’s lackluster. The Agency hasn’t been shown in ages. Come on man, we didn’t even see Yakuza 3. What the hell is up with that?!

    #276 6 years ago
  277. theevilaires

    Goliath said: Another Ratchet and Clank ( . . . a franchise that needs to be put to rest)

    such ignorance let me know M$ answer to that franchise then it can go to sleep

    #277 6 years ago
  278. Gekidami

    Dont forget that unlike MS, Sony actually had games announced for 2009-10 way before E3 started, in the end its more about spacing, Sonys given out info over time, MS in pretty much one day, obviously the day after that day seems more impressive then whats came over 2-3 months.

    #278 6 years ago
  279. Psychotext

    TEA… you make yourself sound like such an idiot writing off all those games. Preference is one thing, but you’re coming across as a full on shill.

    #279 6 years ago
  280. Seraphemz

    ok.. he said Heavy Rain early next year. I stand corrected.

    #280 6 years ago
  281. Goliath

    Sorry, it was on GameTrailers TV on Spike they said Heavy Rain was coming in 2010.

    #281 6 years ago
  282. No_PUDding


    So I mean, that was a better presentation than I expected xD

    But what the fuck is that shitty racing game… FUCKING STANDARD SONY, you need sackboys or Home avatsr in that thing, you fuckign ididots.

    And even the motion controls looked not so bad. Not so inaccruate. Althoguh they do looks tupid, if you ask me.

    #282 6 years ago
  283. Goliath

    @ thevilaries

    Dude, really Ratchet and Clank needs to end. Seriously. I don’t give a flying f**k about Microsoft, the franchise is past the expiration date.

    #283 6 years ago
  284. No_PUDding

    I am reeling in all honesty.

    #284 6 years ago
  285. Seraphemz

    I would prefer Jak and Daxter. Loved those games.

    They might talk about more stuff after the presser right…like some luncheon they have?

    When the hell is the BBC game going to be announced?

    #285 6 years ago
  286. theevilaires

    seems like I’m opening up some old fanboy wounds. they are my opinions and some are facts. if you don’t like it crawl back under M$ nuts

    #286 6 years ago
  287. Syrok

    ” Anyone who think Sony had a more impressive showing is a fanboy. I got nothing.”

    Or likes different games. ;)

    #287 6 years ago
  288. Seraphemz

    Syrok – Great point. I mean I dont give a crap about Halo so its not important to me. I would have liked to see ME2. That game i want.

    #288 6 years ago
  289. theevilaires

    of all the info gathered so far it seems sony has the best line up for 09 and 10. (imo)

    #289 6 years ago
  290. Seraphemz

    HEY..i forgot.. when can i my FF7 !!!

    #290 6 years ago
  291. Goliath

    Could any of you give me an idea of what definitively is coming in 2009 for the Playstation 3? Seriously? The dick tease Sony does every year is pissing me off.

    #291 6 years ago
  292. Shatner

    Well, hugely disappointed with their investment in a gimmicky controller. Tied into Eyetoy = expensive peripheral just to even get started with. Demo was cute but, really, novelty controllers can GTFO.

    Happy with some of the unexpected announcements – Agent and FFXIV came out of nowhere. Disappointed that the latter is MMO as that does nothing for me. Maybe if it’s a truly decent MMO that’s truly free to play then I might try it.

    Glad to FINALLY get a credible source of Trico/The Last Guardian information. I can start investing interest in it now. I liked the different shader used on the boy.

    God of War 3 disappointed to be honest. VERY drab looking and seriously needs some of that epic God of War theme music to keep the momentum going. I’ll still adore it when it hits.

    That DIY Racer could be interesting. Reminds me of Trackmania to be honest but then that’s not the worst thing in the world to be compared to.

    If Sony are serious about taking “Play Create Share” in different directions then sign me up for a snowboarding effort right here, right now.

    #292 6 years ago
  293. G1GAHURTZ

    Well IMO, over the next few days most, if not all of the independent gaming press are going to say that MS had the better conference, because of Natal and the Metal Gear deal.

    Natal is something that the other two can’t really match (especially the XBL integration and facial recognition, etc) and the Metal Gear deal is a massive coup that brings the 360 a long, long way from where almost everyone had predicted it would be just a few years ago.

    I really liked some of the Sony stuff, especially the car thingy, but I just think that more people will be wowed with what MS brought.

    #293 6 years ago
  294. Gekidami

    Indeed the games Sony showed appeal more to me then what MS had, for the most part they’re sequels to games i didnt like (Left 4 [Content lacking], Snooze Down…).

    #294 6 years ago
  295. Goliath


    I don’t even care about all the motion control stuff. Where are the release dates. GT5 – next year, GoW3 – next year, Heavy Rain – next year, MAG – next year (They didn’t even announce a beta), Last Guardian – Lord knows, Agent – Don’t even know or care what it is at this point, Yakuza 3 – no show, White Knight Chronicles – no show. What the hell, should have called it the Sony PSP Go conference.

    #295 6 years ago
  296. Seraphemz

    Gig.. Natal was definately cool but was pretty much matched with the motion sensing. Not even the wii mote has that accurate of movement.

    And the MGS Raiden wasnt even shown. Just picks. Its like getting all crazy about the Rockstar game with no real idea what its about.

    #296 6 years ago
  297. theevilaires

    you really think sony won’t implement the few extra things natal can do by next year. are you people stupid. that tech is old. face detection. Kuturagi said the ps3 could have that in the ps3 from day one. give me a break people.

    don’t get me wrong its cool and looks bad ass but all these M$ PR sites will call it the second coming for no reason and then they will say sony copied next year.

    #297 6 years ago
  298. theevilaires

    if it isn’t tactical espionage action then i don’t care. If i don’t play as snake or big boss its not metal gear to me.

    #298 6 years ago
  299. Gekidami

    On a side not did anyone see Demons Souls? Its meant to be coming to the US yet i didnt notice it in the trailers showing all the coming games.

    #299 6 years ago
  300. theevilaires

    in whole i was disappointed because they didn’t say anything about firmware updates.

    #300 6 years ago
  301. Seraphemz

    SONY was going to lose in the eyes of many whatever they did.

    I love the PSP so all the games and the new one got me real happy. Im really liked all they showed.

    ( fanboy comment coming ) i guess since they have so much stuff they couldnt fit it in 90 mins.. or even 2 hrs like they had.

    #301 6 years ago
  302. Psychotext

    Ehh… there was plenty of fluff they could have cut. Either way, the full picture will be known over the next couple of days.

    #302 6 years ago
  303. Seraphemz

    True, i think that the vids of all the games could have been left out, and maybe the motion could have been shorter.

    #303 6 years ago
  304. G1GAHURTZ

    The motion control presentation could have been so much better if they had shown it running in an actual game.

    Natal is doing that dodgeball thing and Burnout, so they seemed a little bit like they just don’t have anything good enough to show yet.

    #304 6 years ago
  305. Patrick Garratt


    I thought that was alright. I’ll do a “who won” feature this week.

    #305 6 years ago
  306. Psychotext

    Oh god… that’ll be a fun comments section.

    I think I’ll avoid that.

    #306 6 years ago
  307. Patrick Garratt

    Was there some nice, reasoned discussion going on in here? Haven’t had a chance to look.

    #307 6 years ago
  308. G1GAHURTZ

    Are you serious??

    #308 6 years ago
  309. Patrick Garratt

    No :)

    #309 6 years ago
  310. theevilaires

    please psycho contribute to garratts amusment when he posts that article.

    #310 6 years ago
  311. No_PUDding

    Well I am happy. I guess I can’t put it any other way.

    Agent trailer please! But it IS Rockstar, isn’t it – so minimal marketing I am guessing.

    #311 6 years ago
  312. No_PUDding

    There was one game, I forgot the name, but, ugh…. Oh yeah Last Guardian.

    #312 6 years ago
  313. G1GAHURTZ

    @ Pat:


    #313 6 years ago
  314. DrDamn

    I think MS had a very solid showing of good standard titles – what they lacked was anything different or new – aside from Natal. If you are a fan of those they did show then obviously you’d think it was a better conference. I think Sony showed more interesting stuff for me – Last Guardian, FFIV, Mod RaceNation and the motion controller stuff were good.

    Oh and GT5 nabbing WRC and Nascar licenses – that’s pretty big news right there.

    Both had good conferences, and my personal preference is with Sony, but a lot will prefer the MS stuff.

    #314 6 years ago
  315. Mike

    Shame everything Sony showed was next year. Uncharted wsn’t dated either.

    #315 6 years ago
  316. fearmonkey

    If your a Sony fan, then what they announced might have done it for you. I didn’t see a particular reason why I needed to buy a PS3, except for Last Guardian, which is not enough of a reason alone.
    With MS, pretty much feel the same. There wasnt a real reason to make a PS3 owner buy a 360.
    Nintendo is of course milking Mario for all it’s worth, and nothing new there either.

    The motion controllers from Sony and MS look interesting. Sony is doing an extension of the Wii, and MS is doing something different not using a wand or dongle, though that would be easy to implement.

    The question on how laggy the tech is for Napal, how much light it needs, how close you have to be to the camera, how good the audio pickip is, are unknown. If it can live up to what Milo and those videos show, then its going to be amazing, but im skeptical..
    With MS and Sony, it really depends on the software. The Wii was built from the ground up to support that wand, laggy though it is. Every game uses it.
    With a piece of hardware that people have to buy seperate from their console, its unknown how well it will sell.

    The new motion controller winner will win due to the software, not the hardware. MS’s seem to be most unique, but its cost, and repsonse are yet to be seen.

    MS’s won this E3 imho, but not by a huge amount. Only the promise of the Napal system, sets them ahead, and it remains to be seen if it was just hype or not.

    #316 6 years ago
  317. Goliath

    @ Mike

    I thought I was the only one that noticed that.

    #317 6 years ago
  318. Mike

    It’s Natal.

    #318 6 years ago
  319. DrDamn

    I think the Natal system is very good for non-gamers, but as a gamer I’m more interested in what they can do with the MotionPlus and Sony systems. They are going to be more accurate and have a greater breadth of uses. It’s all going to come down to the software though.

    #319 6 years ago
  320. Mike

    I don’t see how it’s going to be more accurate tbh. Anyway, both release next year. Let’s wait and see.

    #320 6 years ago
  321. No_PUDding

    One releases later one releases earlier.

    One is waggle and Eyepet, one is Peter Molynuex.

    Compare and contrast.

    #321 6 years ago
  322. Mike

    I would just’ve liked to have been excited about the next 6 months. Apart from Uncharted (still not confirmed as 09), what is there?

    #322 6 years ago
  323. Goliath

    @ Mike

    Don’t waste your time. I’ve been asking what’s really on the horizon this year and know one could tell me. Before E3 Sony had so many exclusives coming this year, now they have an unconfirmed Uncharted 2 and Ratchet and Clank. Microsoft has Forza 3, Halo ODST, Left 4 Dead 2 and Splinter Cell: Conviction. How the hell the roles get reversed so quickly in 2 days?

    #323 6 years ago
  324. Len

    Uncharted better be this year, I can’t wait till next for that!

    #324 6 years ago
  325. Syrok

    I think Uncharted is still slated for Autumn 2009 release in the US.

    #325 6 years ago
  326. DrDamn

    They will be more accurate because of the motion sensors built into the controllers and for the Sony one that it has something very specific to track. The hand writing demo showed how accurate it is. The avatar spazing out when the guy tried to show the bottom of his shoe showed how accurate the Natal system is. Neither are perfect, and both have limitations. There are a couple of fairly clear strengths/weaknesses from what has been shown so far though.

    #326 6 years ago
  327. Mike

    Strange how there was now mention of it. Not even a “coming this fall.” Nothing.

    #327 6 years ago
  328. G1GAHURTZ

    But Sony have already done a whole load for this year…

    KZ2, Infamous, etc…

    (I’m sure there are more that I can’t think of right now)

    What, have you guys finished with these and want more already??

    #328 6 years ago
  329. Goliath

    Finished Killzone 2, working on Infamous. I think Infamous is pretty bland and boring. Just got Red Faction and getting Prototype next week. Don’t even play Killzone 2 online anymore, not interested in map packs.

    #329 6 years ago
  330. G1GAHURTZ

    How did you get Red Faction??

    I’m really looking forward to that game, but it’s not out until Friday…?

    #330 6 years ago
  331. Goliath

    No, it came out today. I’m in the US.

    #331 6 years ago
  332. G1GAHURTZ

    Oh, well that explains it then! lol.

    #332 6 years ago
  333. Goliath

    It’s pretty sweet but the mission are already a bit repetitive. Blowing stuff up is pretty cool.

    #333 6 years ago
  334. theevilaires

    you really think infamous is bland and boring Goliath? you’re the first person i got that from. i’m sure blerk would be second

    #334 6 years ago
  335. Goliath

    To be honest, open world games have a tendency to get repetitive really quicking. The game is fill with repetitive taxi missions and fetch quests and there is no way to remain neutral. You’re either good or bad.

    #335 6 years ago
  336. Goliath

    I actually like games that a linear with great set pieces and atmosphere. I loved Killzone 2, loved FEAR 2.

    #336 6 years ago
  337. theevilaires

    thats the point hence the term “infamous” but i understand what you mean by open world games have a tendency to get repetitive. i can respect that judgment.

    #337 6 years ago
  338. theevilaires

    then you’ll love UC2. its coming out this nov

    #338 6 years ago
  339. Goliath

    Really hope Uncharted 2 comes out this year. And after how well Yakuza 3 did, I was hoping it would be released in Europe and North America but no announcement or even hint at the title.

    *edit* you read my mind :D Love the first Uncharted.

    #339 6 years ago
  340. G1GAHURTZ

    I’m more interested in the multiplayer tbh.

    I play multiplayer a lot, so this looks like something fresh to give me a break from COD4 for a week or so.

    The demo was a blast, so I’m looking forward to getting the full game.

    #340 6 years ago
  341. Goliath

    Not big on multiplayer. Don’t have the time to invest to not be considered a noob. I guess it’s why I don’t play Killzone 2 anymore.

    #341 6 years ago
  342. theevilaires

    anyone notice the new cleaner ps store

    #342 6 years ago
  343. No_PUDding

    FUUUCKKK Uncharted 2 trailer is so beauitful… And Elena is so beautiful, and just wow.

    #343 6 years ago
  344. theevilaires

    shes back holy crap yes, i loved that chic

    #344 6 years ago

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