360 motion-sensing on the way, says Wall Street Journal

So the difference between this and the current video camera for the Xbox 360 console that allows players to control games with the movement of their bodies is? You know the one, it sits near the TV and captures when players move their hands, legs or head.

I mean obviously there is going to be a difference, but all these news stories just list off a load of stuff they already do with the current camera.

Yup, sounds like a description of the original EyeToy.

*sits on hands*

Planning a luxury wank there Patrick?

The difference is that it would be a lot more advanced, being able to differentiate individual limbs and digits. The EyeToy and such simply use basic edge detection to create a kind of silhouette of the person playing, whereas this new device will be able to discern facial expressions and hand gestures. So for instance you would be able to navigate the NXE with Minority Report-style hand waving.

It’s kind of like the difference between the vanilla Wiimote and Wii Motion Plus: same basic principle, just a lot more accurate.

Tonka – Anal stimulus.

CRAP CRAP CRAP…. I was hoping MS would stay away from this Wii Motion Plus Crap….Now Nintendo will release the Wii Motion Plus Plus…It plugs into the bottom of your Wii Mote into the First Wii Motion Plus, so before Long you have a Wii Mote So Long and HUGE that it will Be Doing Porn Called Wii Motion Plus Plus:12 Feet of Jiggly Goodness and still can’t please the skank!

Luxury wank. Sit on you hands until they fall asleep. Then it will feel as if someone else is doing the wanking.

I know what it is. Just saying I favour trying to fit three fingers in my ass.

Why am I typing this?

If I understand it correctly, there are multiple cameras built into it so that it can actually detect movement in 3D space rather than 2D space – that’s how it differs from the original MS camera and EyeToy and stuff. And it also detects sounds, so you can shout at it as well. If you’re not feeling enough of a fool poncing about like an idiot.

I think this is a done deal. Rumours are too detailed to be made up now.

@Aimless
That all sounds like image processing – so why the new camera? Maybe it does thermal imaging or infra red. Problem with the current set up is that in a nice perfectly lit room with no clutter it works great. In a normal room there can be problems.

Still not convinced about where they are going with this.

As Blerk said, it uses multiple cameras. Or at least that’s the ‘rumour’.

As it’ll have two angles on whatever it is you’re doing it can attribute a sense of depth to your actions, meaning it should be able to sense if you move your hand towards or away from the screen and such. My understanding is that the EyeToy could only really work out, “Hey, that part of the image is changing so the person must be moving,” whereas Microsoft’s new device would actually have an idea of your position in 3D space.

I can’t say much (quite why, I don’t know), but it’s based on military object recognition tech from what I’ve been told. It “sees” and recognises things as opposed to just tracking movement.

Let’s hope it’s not programmed to search and destroy then.

Sounds like one for the tinfoil hat guys to worry about.

Nice!

BAck to the Luxury wank. I knew a guy who would sit on his cock instead. GAve him the feeling of wanking off some one else he said.

Hung like a donkey he was

Ahhh… life in the Royal Navy

I thought a luxury one was sex? Not as good as a real wank but close enough or wearing a condom (maybe that’s a posh one).

The tech is here… and it’s quite clever:
http://www.3dvsystems.com/technology/tech.html

Minority Report incoming.

I actually think this could be pretty cool. It could be used as part of other games to do some cool shit.

Could be a factor, I guess. But it still feels like they are jumping on the wiiwaggle thing to me.

RTS could be awesome with it, potentially. Providing it actually does work like Minority Report.

RTS would be shit with that lagfest.

Have you seen it? There’s doesn’t seem to be any lag at all in the CES 2008 demos. It has 60fps sensing. (I don’t think sensing is the word I’m looking for!)

The vids off that link you provided above weren’t all that lag free – the full body sensing for example. However I’d expect it could be nicely optimised for the 360 by release. How much of an overhead is it going to introduce though?

Not the vids on that link (I haven’t actually watched those). I’m talking about the vids taken at their booth at CES 2008. Plus the comments from the people who have tested it.

I’ve seen some of their early stuff though, and it’s very laggy.

Hasn’t the PlayStation Eye already been proven capable of all these things? Nearly two years ago a London developer said they were working on a suite of motion-controlled games for it but it later disappeared from their website.