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Xbox One UK sales about to overtake Wii U total, according to sources

Monday, 25th November 2013 12:54 GMT By Dave Cook

Xbox One launched in the UK on Friday, November 22. Word has it that sales of Microsoft’s console are on the cusp of overtaking the total number of Wii U consoles sold across Britain.

It follows Nintendo’s confirmation that 3.91 million Wii U consoles have been sold worldwide since the machine launched in December 2012.

MCV reports that Chart-Track has recorded some 150,000 Xbox One console sales across the UK since launch, which is double the launch week sales of Xbox 360 at 70,000.

An unnamed source has supposedly told the site that Xbox One is now just a few thousand consoles away from over-taking Wii U lifetime sales in the UK. MCV adds that Microsoft’s machine will over-take Nintendo before this week is through.

What do you make of the above?

Via CVG.

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  1. redwood

    breaking news.. PS4 NA sale to overtake X1 total!

    #1 9 months ago
  2. KAP

    @1

    +1

    #2 9 months ago
  3. monkeygourmet

    Not really surprising, but a bit sad though.

    It will def cement the idea that microtransactions ‘work’ and are the way forward though. Especially as Forza did pretty well too.

    I expect this to be the generation of full priced F2P titles, especially on the X1. I hope it isn’t as pronounced on the PS4.

    #3 9 months ago
  4. Djoenz

    I agree MG you make a good point. If I see more microtransactions in the upcoming games on either next gen console I will skip next gen entirely and find a new hobby…..

    Or just skip those games/wait till they are cheaper :P

    #4 9 months ago
  5. monkeygourmet

    @4

    Exactly.

    If Forza was actually ‘free’ (or maybe £15), the MT’s are easier to swallow. Still, even with that I don’t like the idea of balancing. Devs find games hard to balance without money involved so it could all end up a horrible mess with a lot of good IP’s and names being dragged through the dirt.

    Forza looks to be a prime example, KI is similar and maybe Fable next?

    #5 9 months ago
  6. Djoenz

    @5
    Well it gets even sweeter check out the prices of some Forza cars:
    http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=721448

    #6 9 months ago
  7. Dark

    http://i4.minus.com/jmmvTNrEFMURe.jpg

    #7 9 months ago
  8. xBASSxMONSTAx

    Microsoft’s Forza 5 is absolutely scandalous.. How its been rated so highly is beyond me.

    I’ve read the cost to own every car in the game equals to nearly £1,400 in micro transactions and with the new system now geared to push you towards paying for micro transactions with less tracks, less ways to earn credits, no cars given at level up. Disgraceful.

    Anyway with my Forza rant over, I don’t get why MS is getting all this positive press when the PS4 is doing a lot better as it’s only been on sale in two country’s so far. When it goes on sale in Europe and Asia it should sell another 2 million easily surpassing every console to date.

    #8 9 months ago
  9. Ireland Michael

    @5 Fable will apparently take the “episodic content” path, which personally I think is a horrendous approach for an RPG.

    Every game Microsoft is releasing is obsessed with these alternative transactions. They’re not trying to sell good games, they’re trying to sell money scroungers. Forza 5 is designed like a F2P game (why wasn’t this brought up on a single review) and Killer Instinct is a paid beta while they actually complete the rest of the game.

    Give them an inch, they take a mile. With a shitty interface, expensive extras (the Kinect), a controller that is apparently made of Fisher Price cheap components, and their bullshit past practises… I’m done. The Xbox One will be the first console I don’t buy.

    #9 9 months ago
  10. fihar

    After I read some of the indepth review of Forza 5 from the veterans of the series, I felt disgusted after defending Turn 10 earlier on. Forza 4 did lots of thing right and for Turn 10 to do a massive 180 with Forza 5 just made things worse, a lot worse.

    One prominent journalist thought that the fact that FM5 has less tracks is a good thing because he has the chance to get to know them better.
    What. The. Fuck.

    #10 9 months ago
  11. monkeygourmet

    @6

    That’s disgusting.

    It’s another reason why I don’t champion good sales of devices / business models like this.

    Yes, it may sell a shit load, but people can be stupid and this just makes marketing think ‘this is what people want (will put up with), give ‘em more!’

    Makes me puke and it will destroy gaming as we know it. Indies will step up though but from a AAA experience, I fear MT’s will permeate much of the experience.

    @Michael

    Yeah, I’m just not interested now. It’s a shitty, shitty business model and the amount of sales just show how ‘under the thumb’ people have got. I see main line cinema in much the same light. It’s amazing what tripe people put up with really. It also goes to show how much MS values gamers and even it’s own IP’s…

    They just don’t give a fig if a title like Fable / Forza gets dragged through the dirt if they can make a quick buck.

    #11 9 months ago
  12. Cort

    Well that’s just humiliating. How the mighty are fallen….

    #12 9 months ago
  13. Fin

    @9

    Eurogamer and Gametrailers mentioned the F2P bit of Forza.

    Polygon gave it 9.

    #13 9 months ago
  14. polygem

    @3: if that will be happening: fuck the industy. i wont buy my games anymore. i will rent them or skip them.

    #14 9 months ago
  15. Ireland Michael

    Vote with your wallets, and let the console burn.

    This entire console and everything Microsoft is doing with its services and games is an insult to consumers, and has been from the start. I’m really, reeeeeeeeally tired of giving them chances. Every time I think it can’t get any worse… it does.

    They’ve burnt their last bridge with this monetisation bullshit.

    #15 9 months ago
  16. Djoenz

    @15
    Are you sure Microsoft is behind all these aspects ? I think its the devs man I mean publishers.

    EDIT:
    Then devs it is!!!

    #16 9 months ago
  17. Ireland Michael

    @16 Microsoft *are* the publishers.

    #17 9 months ago
  18. monkeygourmet

    @15

    Sony will have to follow to an extent if there is money to be made. It’s how they balance it that’s the key.

    Nintendo would be doing the same but they haven’t got a solid online infrastructure which is probably why companies like EA hate them! They can’t make as much cash! ;)

    #18 9 months ago
  19. Ireland Michael

    @18. All of Killzone’s map packs post launch will be free.

    Just to offer one example.

    Nintendo have made some optional DLC here and there, but they choose *not* to. They have the infrastructure in place to provide it already, but they don’t believe it’s a fair approach.

    #19 9 months ago
  20. mistermogul

    @10 – Yeah check out this Forza 5 comparison of the retail release and the E3 demo…

    http://i.imgur.com/FHLgmd2.jpg

    Where the *uck has the detailing gone?!

    @8 – I agree. Not sure why the media in general have largely overlooked the rip off that is Forza 5. $32 for one car! wtf!

    Forza 5 just seems like a result stemming from MS’s old policies before their 180. In other words anti-consumer.

    I certainly won’t be buying free to pay games that aren’t effing free!

    #20 9 months ago
  21. polygem

    #15+1

    and looking at it now i feel like an idiot actually.

    they really (ab)used the xbox and 360 to gain trust. xbox now is well established, people got attached to their systems, forged online friendships, started to care about their achievements, many even became brand loyal. now they start to show us what they had in mind right from the start and people seem to be ready to swallow it now. looks like it works. in$ane.

    #21 9 months ago
  22. Djoenz

    @20
    Hmmm it could be the Cloud no seriously otherwise wow.

    #22 9 months ago
  23. Cort

    @20

    According to the advert on this very site, “only possible on XBox One”……

    #23 9 months ago
  24. Ireland Michael

    @20 I would wager they were probably running on higher spec PC units. Didn’t they have “Xbox Ones” at some conventions that were crashing to Windows?

    Visually up-played preview videos are the new render shots. Ubisoft are probably the worst offenders when it comes to that sort of thing.

    This is why I never bother with professional converage anymore. It’s almost always controlled bullshit, at least with the triple A stuff. I’d rather see the game as it actually is.

    —–

    The monetisation thing I don’t inherently have a problem with.

    Optionally paying to unlock content? That’s fine.

    It’s when the game is designed in such a fashion as to severely hamper your progress *on purpose*, to the point where doing it on your own simply isn’t feasible (or enjoyable), that it becomes a problem.

    #24 9 months ago
  25. Phoenixblight

    @22

    Its not the cloud if it was doing cloud processing for rendering it would look more distorted than that. They were using a higher end machine and giving out bullshots just like Ubisoft does at every convention.

    #25 9 months ago
  26. monkeygourmet

    @19

    Sony have been pretty reserved so far, which is much better than MS’s bullish attempts. In fact, with the market in their favour, they are in a good position to watch MS and see how hard this approach fails or the extents of its success. Who knows, maybe MS will destroy a few of their much needed franchises in the process?

    They certainly seem like they are doing a good job of that at the moment!

    #26 9 months ago
  27. Cort

    The XBox brand’s two biggest markets, by far:

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/2013/videogames/ref=zg_bs_tab_t_bsar

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/bestsellers/2013/videogames/ref=zg_bs_tab_t_bsar

    Ouch.

    #27 9 months ago
  28. polygem

    @26: definitely. with me alone, they lost one guy who probably would have spend at least 600 Euro a year on games for their system. i am not the only one. the question really is: can they generate that lost cash otherwise, from other audiences than your average gamer guy? loos like that´s the plan. sure, there are still lots and lots of dedicated gamers buying xbox ones but there are also lots of 360 gamers that are jumping ships now. will be interesting to watch how all this pans out. looking at it 2 or 3 years from now will be interesting.
    i for one am at a point where i really cannot see myself going back to ms. shame, the 360 was/is an awesome gamesconsole. all that crap started with the ads on live.

    #28 9 months ago
  29. mistermogul

    @24 – Totally agree dude.

    I just hope micro-transactions don’t become a big part of PS4/XB1′s future.

    @23 – lol!

    #29 9 months ago
  30. Ireland Michael

    @29 This seems to be mainly a Microsoft thing right now. Microsoft are asking you to pay for one car what most publishers would ask you to pay to unlock *everything* in the game.

    The PS4′s flagship launch game – Killzone – on the other hand, will be releasing all of it’s future map packs for free. So yeah, Sony definitely seems to have a different idea of the direction that things should be taken.

    If the reactions are anything to go by, I don’t see it lasting. I don’t see the Xbox One lasting either, to be honest. If the sales of the hardware stumble start to faulter, most devs will just jump ship.

    #30 9 months ago
  31. Bomba Luigi

    The Problem is that Microtransaktions in Full Price Games are working. It worked for Dead Space 3 and co., that was like the consumers telling the Developers “Yes please, do it!”.

    Forza4 already had MT, and Consumers where throwing Money at Turn10 and MS – so they are taking it now to the Next Level. They will always go as far as they can to make some money. Money Rules the World.

    #31 9 months ago
  32. monkeygourmet

    @30

    Or is it because Killzones multiplayer has to compete with BF4 and Ghosts out of the gate?

    Hmmm… It’s so hard to tell sometimes! :)

    #32 9 months ago
  33. Ireland Michael

    @31 Dead Space didn’t forcibly restrict you. It was entirely optional.

    @32 Does it matter? It’s free.

    I don’t have to pay $30 for each weapon or grind out the same map for 10 hours just to get it.

    #33 9 months ago
  34. absolutezero

    KI is more or less a game in Steam Early Access, if you choose to buy it then you get everything released afterwards for free. Just like Steam Early access.

    The team had 11 months to make the game and yeah, its not finished. Its by far no where near a fucking beta though. That would be the realm of buying a Battlefield game at launch.

    #34 9 months ago
  35. TheBlackHole

    “I don’t get why MS is getting all this positive press when the PS4 is doing a lot better as it’s only been on sale in two country’s so far”

    Yeah, comparing countries isn’t quite the same as comparing population, is it.

    @IrelandMichael

    “They’ve burnt their last bridge with this monetisation bullshit.”

    “Sony definitely seems to have a different idea of the direction that things should be taken.”

    http://www.teamvvv.com/en/news/comments/Gran-Turismo-6-15GB-in-size-as-digital-download-in-game-Credits-available-to-buy-for-real-money

    Welcome to the future. Everyone’s at it.

    #35 9 months ago
  36. TheBlackHole

    “The Problem is that Microtransaktions in Full Price Games are working.”

    This. This, all day long.

    #36 9 months ago
  37. Cobra951

    Hmm. I must admit that ruining the big games through microtransactions is something I did not expect. I planned on skipping the XB1 because of the forced-online DRM. While that issue went away (mostly) now there’s an even better reason to turn my back on Microsoft this gen. I’m waiting a year regardless, but unless many other games make up for this travesty, I see only a PS4 in my future.

    And that’s assuming Sony doesn’t follow the same path.

    #37 9 months ago
  38. Bomba Luigi

    “Dead Space didn’t forcibly restrict you. It was entirely optional.”

    See, you even excuse them. They are working Perfect, of course EA wont stop.

    #38 9 months ago
  39. daytripper

    Voted with my wallet. I will be a PS4 owner this weekend. As a long term fan Im pretty irked at MS , wish the likes of J Allard was calling the shots

    #39 9 months ago
  40. Ireland Michael

    @38 I excuse it because I don’t have a problem with microtransactions in general. The game is just as accessible without them as it is with.

    Forza 5 is not. Stuff is up to 8 times more expensive than past games, content and modes have been removed, and the ability to earn the points needed to access the content on your own has been severely hampered.

    I expect that kind of model out of Jetpack Joyride, not a full price game.

    You’re comparing an ant to an elephant.

    #40 9 months ago
  41. fihar

    @33
    FM5 doesn’t forcibily restrict you either.
    Dave mentioned in his write-up that the Drivatar system allows you to earn money while you’re offline, which might help to alleviate the fact that there is no more level-up car rewards and manufacturer affinity discounts.

    No, my main beef is the fact that FM5 lost half of what made FM4 so enjoyable in the first place and I’m not talking just about the cars and tracks. Check out the neogaf link that Djoenz posted.

    To give you a comparison, Arkham Origins was criticized for not improving enough on Arkham City. Now FM5 goes beyond that by actually not improving at all from FM4 and was instead a step back in almost every way.
    Sure, it looks better, sounds better, drives better and the AI is more dynamic. But it is for an altogether new machine that is significantly more powerful than its predecessor in every single way, of course FM5 is going to be technically better than FM4 but that’s pretty much a given.
    I mean, you could just upscale everything from FM4, add the new cars and tracks and it would still be much better than this shameless money-grabbing attempt.

    #41 9 months ago
  42. absolutezero

    Ryse has more or less the exact same structure of Dead Space 3 to be honest. Its also far less insistent and obvious than DS3, theres nothing inside the game-world extolling you to open the EA store for example. They pop up in the upgrade menu, use gold instead of valour to unlock or something like that. Theres nothing in Dead Rising 3.

    #42 9 months ago
  43. Dave Cook

    @42 Dead Rising 3 is the fucking nuts. Seriously. I like it.

    #43 9 months ago
  44. absolutezero

    I spent too much time playing with the smart glass side quests yesterday that it became in-game night and I bricked it and turned it off.

    Waiting on my buddy getting back from his Xbone shopping trip today to continue in co-op.

    #44 9 months ago
  45. Ireland Michael

    @40 So I can progress further and purchase things in the game by… not playin it?

    That’s just stupid. And it’s doesn’t excuse the obscene costs one way or another. It turns a grind into climbing Mount Everest, minus the sense of actual achievement.

    What Microsoft are doing with Forza 5 is a system employed in F2P games. They don’t belong in a fully priced title.

    @42 Dead Rising is a Capcom game, exclusive or not.

    I’m not sure what the status with Ryse it? Does the license belong to Microsoft? If it does then it’s the one exception to the rule. If it doesn’t then credit to Crytek for not being complete dicks.

    #45 9 months ago
  46. Fin

    @40

    Ya this is my thoughts on it.

    Microtransactions are fine, as long as the core game isn’t deliberately unbalanced to encourage their purchase.
    That seems to have happened here.

    #46 9 months ago
  47. The_Red

    Xbox One isn’t a horrible console but they way they are treating first party games (Forza, Crimson Dragon and Ryse) is just disgusting. Seriously, neither one of them is free and yet they have f2p mechanics (And in case of Crimson Dragon, a pretty huge gating system that is pretty much on par with bad f2p games, let alone a title that costs 20 bucks).

    Wii U is out (At least in my book). Hopefully PS4 can sell without this sort of dogshit even though they are doing it with GT6. Of course if Sony really goes the way of MS, I will finally stop criticizing Nintendo and say that system is worth twice PS4 and Xbox One combined. Hopefully that’s an if and we can have a f2p-free generation with both PS4 and Wii U.

    #47 9 months ago
  48. fihar

    @45
    It’s a flawed system but it is in place to help mitigate the flaws, whether you like it or not.
    I doubt the Drivatar makes more money than you though, so I’m guessing grinding for yourself (or purchasing tokens, yuck) is still the way to go.

    In a way, I kinda hope that this Drivatar thing gets copied on to GT’s B-Spec system. I hate having to train AI drivers before they can take on a more difficult race. If the game allows them to grow by watching me race and while I’m offline, I don’t have to spend my time doing B-Spec races over and over again, watching at the TV screen issuing orders to those incompetent AIs.

    #48 9 months ago
  49. Lv01

    @47, there are F2P games on PS4, like war thunder and DCUO, but they are sold to us as F2P. and are free. i would expect microtransactions in those games, and would not complain, if after playing it (for free) for a while, to see that either i have to grind the hell out of it to progress, or cough up a little bit.
    in a game i paid full price at retail for? no thanks.
    i echo a lot of people on here: this forza thing is disgusting.
    (and that neogaf link above, when you look at the maths, is truly shocking.)

    #49 9 months ago
  50. Ireland Michael

    @47 Crimson Dragon as well? Damn.

    #50 9 months ago
  51. absolutezero

    Crimson Dragon is a horrible mess. Its actually terrible. Like the worst of the Korean F2P games terrible.

    Just gems to buy and packs and dragons and re-doing areas to unlock more stuff and etc etc etc.

    #51 9 months ago
  52. TheBlackHole

    @41

    “FM5 goes beyond that by actually not improving at all from FM4 and was instead a step back in almost every way.

    Sure, it looks better, sounds better, drives better and the AI is more dynamic”

    Ahahahahaha. Sorry, that just made my day :)

    #52 9 months ago
  53. monkeygourmet

    Even the statement:

    ‘I’m okay with MT’s as long as they don’t effect gameplay’… Annoys me slightly.

    I would argue that the camel has already got his nose inside the tent at that stage. When did anything like this get any BETTER?!

    Example:

    Stage 1 : Music festivals… Bring your own water / drinks and beer…
    Stage 2: you can bring your own drinks but we also sell water for £5 a bottle
    Stage 3 : now you can’t bring drinks in and you have to pay £5 a bottle

    That’s generally how shit like this works. There are hundreds of similar examples… Like i said, the Camels nose is in the tent, his body will shortly follow.

    #53 9 months ago
  54. TheBlackHole

    “Stage 3 : now you can’t bring drinks in and you have to pay £5 a bottle”

    Except that this is illegal.

    Tap water MUST be provided.

    I see where you were going though :)

    #54 9 months ago
  55. monkeygourmet

    @54

    :)

    Yummy tap water next to the toilets filled with poo! ;)

    #55 9 months ago
  56. Irani

    Viva Xbox One Viva Microsoft , Sony is #@**&^ :))

    #56 9 months ago
  57. The_Red

    @Ireland Michael
    Crimson Dragon is the worst one. The others are normal games that have had a few design changes to reflect the f2p nature (Like Forza 5 no longer awarding cars for wins and keeping everything to buy either via in-game money or the real one).

    Crimson Dragon on the other hand is not a normal title. The very core of its design is based on micro-transactions. There are parts that force you to replay missions (Near the end) and all kinds of elements that are in the core of f2p games rather than superficial bonuses.

    #57 9 months ago
  58. derpachu

    Woah, noticed a bunch Sony shills in the comment section. Except some.

    #58 9 months ago

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