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Steam Controller video shows how well it works with Portal 2, Civilization 5

Friday, 11th October 2013 19:20 GMT By Stephany Nunneley

Valve has released a video of its Steam Controller playing games like Civilization 5 and Portal 2.

This is the same version that will be shipping to 300 Steam users later this year, and Valve promises more demonstrations like this “soon”, including footage of some other game developers using the controller to play their own games.

Watch it below and check out the update on the community page.

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119 Comments

  1. Panthro

    CANT WAIT TO BUY IT.

    #1 11 months ago
  2. Erthazus

    1-1 precision.
    It is the best controller hands down and much better than PS controller or Xbox One by a freakin mile.
    and precision is decent. Very comfortable too.

    Pretty much the revolution in console gaming and a decent one controller that can hve RTS games such as Civilization or Europa Universalis.

    P.S. Grab button with a controller in CIV5 works very well. awesome. Counter-Strike – headshots are there and of course you can’t move and shoot at the same time like with M&K but precision is way beter than in X1 or PS4 controllers. By Far.

    No more shitty AUTO-AIM please.

    #2 11 months ago
  3. Pytox

    OMG !

    #3 11 months ago
  4. Panthro

    @2 was just about to edit my post and say how well the precision was on counter strike, I knew when I would see a video I would be impressed but I gotta say Im more than impressed. I am going to love playing my PC games with a well designed controller instead of this old 360 one.

    The time is coming when PC gamers can finally lay back and relax and enjoy a controller unlike any other.

    #4 11 months ago
  5. Patrick Garratt

    That looks amazing.

    #5 11 months ago
  6. ChunkyLover112

    There’s a Steam controller now? What kind of people use steam anyway… Jesus. This thing just won’t die.

    #6 11 months ago
  7. Erthazus

    With trackpads you can use it as a mouse pointer (works for RTS’s, even MOBA’s, every game that require mouse). With a standard stick you can’t.

    Awesome.

    @6, you know, like 50 FREAKIN MILLION USERS you know?

    #7 11 months ago
  8. pukem0n

    lol, you guys never held one in your hand and already it is the greatest controller ever. yeah right.

    #8 11 months ago
  9. Moonwalker1982

    Looks great, but i can’t properly judge it yet, nobody can until they have tried it out. I am so used to thumbsticks i wonder if i can adjust to this.

    #9 11 months ago
  10. Erthazus

    @8,

    show me at least PS3 controller or Xbox 360 controller that can work with Civilization V type of games That well.

    #10 11 months ago
  11. Panthro

    @8 we are making assumptions based on a video demonstrating how it works…
    go make a video of yourself using a 360 controller to play Civ V and compare it to this one…

    Its not only that people have absolute faith in valve its also because it looks like valve has just made a solution for PC gamers to use a controller that actually works with games that dont have lock-on, controller support or fast paced gameplay…

    Sure controllers work in online games on console because everybody is using a controller, for example; on PC its different you either play with a mouse and keyboard online in a shooter or your fucked.

    #11 11 months ago
  12. Panthro

    @8 and you could say the same for all these imbeciles claiming the PS4 and X1 are the best thing since marky mark and the funky bunch

    @7 that figure is old… there is way more now ;)

    #12 11 months ago
  13. Ghostcoast

    I find it funny that he only used this for slow paced game play. Even when playing Counter Strike I could tell he was going much slower than someone on a mouse. I want to see someone using this for DOTA 2 or an actual online CS match. Only then can we really see it’s potential.

    Honestly to me this was nothing more than fluff.

    #13 11 months ago
  14. Erthazus

    I’m amazed by the fact that with track pads Mouse pointer games can be played with a controller.
    It’s a Win situation.

    Valve Won. Instantly.

    @13, OF COURSE it won’t have the same precision results as a Mouse and Keyboard. But it has better results than a controller with thumbsticks already.

    #14 11 months ago
  15. Joe Musashi

    Amazing how the “Mouse and keyboard is the best, far better than any gamepad could ever be..” evangelists are blowing their load over a gamepad all of a sudden.

    Steambox: the console for PC elitists.

    JM

    PS: Just so you know, I’ve nothing against Steambox (so far) but fucking hypocritical elitist contradictory double-standard spewing, doctored-image posting, lying, get-caught-spouting-bullshit-and-run-away-yet-still-try-to-make-it-look-like-they-know-everything-about-everything, dumb superiority complex gamers?

    Yeah, not so keen on those.

    #15 11 months ago
  16. freedoms_stain

    Very impressive.

    I reckon with a bit of practice there will be people who are gods with this thing.

    #16 11 months ago
  17. Panthro

    @15 Mouse and keyboard will still be better and more precise to use than any gamepad including the steam controller, but for the times when I wanna relax on my couch and play some games that need mouse and keyboard Im glad to have an option to use a controller that doesnt feel like it was only made for platformers.

    But i guess I’m sorry yeah, I better not get excited over something different since all us fanboys are meant to hate change.

    #17 11 months ago
  18. Erthazus

    @15, Hey, Playstation fanboys. I will still play games on my Mouse and keyboard. By the video everyone already understand that there is no way that thing will be up to par with Mouse and keyboard but it’s a step forward compared to your belowed 360.PS3 controller that can’t do shit.

    The fact that trackpads work with mouse pointer makes it superior in any way.

    #18 11 months ago
  19. Joe Musashi

    Oh, and for the record, I don’t have an opinion on how good the controller is.

    How could I? I’ve not used it.

    JM

    LOL, as usual the best resort Erthazus has to any criticism is to label someone a fanboy and spout more bullshit. Next step: CAPITAL LETTERS.

    #19 11 months ago
  20. Diingo

    I see so much potential with the haptic feedback trackpads.

    I’m eagerly waiting to see a real Steambox for once.

    #20 11 months ago
  21. Panthro

    @19 Dude your a fucking idiot, You were basically labelling all of us as ‘PC elitists’ because we are looking forward to it.

    And why do you put ‘JM’ at the bottom of every post? nobody gives a fuck what your initials are.

    #21 11 months ago
  22. Legendaryboss

    Yep, this gonna be good meme.

    #22 11 months ago
  23. Joe Musashi

    @21

    1) *”Dude youre a fucking idiot..” tut tut!

    2) I was only addressing the “fucking hypocritical elitist contradictory double-standard spewing, doctored-image posting, lying, get-caught-spouting-bullshit-and-run-away-yet-still-try-to-make-it-look-like-they-know-everything-about-everything, dumb superiority complex gamers

    If you feel the description applies to you, please go right ahead and feel slighted and put on your best pout.

    I’ve made it quite clear, numerous times that I am an advocate of PC gaming. Hell, I even built my own gaming PC. I enjoy gaming irrespective of platform. I enjoy a hell of a lot of gaming on PC.

    But twunts who wage a war of words and declare conclusions and victories before anything has even happened can kindly get the fuck off my internet.

    Have a nice day.

    JM

    #23 11 months ago
  24. Legendaryboss

    @12/@To Those Applicable
    Its not like anyone played Xbox One or PS4 at any recent events or anything, but this SteamOS/Steam controller is apparently the best thing ever yet everyone has apparently held it and played it to its fullest.

    I don’t think i have to say this is sarcasm.

    #24 11 months ago
  25. Erthazus

    They need to show me DOTA2 with a controller and this is going to be a winner.

    + the most popular game on earth – League of legends.

    If it is going to have support with a Steam controller than holy jesus

    #25 11 months ago
  26. Gekidami

    Slide thumb to one of the sides, stop, lift thumb up, recenter thumb, start sliding again.

    Yeah, no.

    Its really blatant in the Civ5 gameplay, the cursor isnt gliding from one side of the screen to the other, its move, pause, move, pause, move, pause. Just like with a laptop touch pad, you get jerky movement because you reach the end of the touch pad way too quickly.

    #26 11 months ago
  27. Joe Musashi

    You know, I’ve just checked. The games in that vid were not running at 4K resolution nor at 120FPS.

    OMG. SHITTY SUB-4K LAST GEN TECH. LOL GABEN FANBOYS R DUMBEST.

    I even saw a PS2-standard snow texture in one corner of the Civ 5 vid. I nearly gagged. True story.

    JM

    #27 11 months ago
  28. freedoms_stain

    @26, it’s set to 1-1 movement, you can set it to have acceleration if you want.

    #28 11 months ago
  29. Gekidami

    @28
    And if you do that you’ll most likely lose the finer precision. That actually looks good in the video, its panning around a bigger space that looks like a jerky pain.

    I doubt you could have both.

    #29 11 months ago
  30. Erthazus

    @26, Hey Playstation fanboy. That’s why you can change SENSITIVITY.
    and with trackpads you can have the same sensitivity options just like with mouse. (and the same speed. Up to 5600 dpi and more)
    So, fuck off please.

    #30 11 months ago
  31. fearmonkey

    The next Xbox Controller or Dualshock 5 will have two sticks and a thumbpad now….

    I’m getting one, not sure if I will prefer it over a regular controller, but Ill get one just because it’s different.

    #31 11 months ago
  32. Erthazus

    I’m sure Sony and MS are looking to engineer new controllers for the PS4 and X1 already.

    I can imagine if this works this will be mainstream. Civilization and pointing games on your consoles. That’s something.

    #32 11 months ago
  33. Panthro

    @24

    And before anyone played them at any events they were still hailed as the be all end all gaming platforms.

    @23

    Like I care if I didn’t spell something correctly, was that your attempt at making me look like a moron who cant use correct grammar? :’( …didn’t work.

    YOU clicked on this article and you already knew what you were going to say before it even opened.

    So you think were hypocrites? because a gamepad has came out that shows promise to becoming something with more precision than what is already on offer?
    Fact is I don’t like gamepads, they are good for platformers and sports games but that’s about it.

    If SONY or Microsoft revealed a gamepad similar to this last year I would of accepted it with open arms with the same excitement im showing for valves controller AND it would make me feel more compelled to purchase a ‘next gen’ console but they haven’t, they are pretty much the same controllers that I don’t like using.

    #33 11 months ago
  34. Hcw87

    @30
    This is great an all, but you behave like someone just insulted your mother. Gaming isn’t that serious, dude.

    On topic though, FPS games on trackpads. Yeah, not sure how that’ll work. Still looks 80% slower than m+kb, so it’s not a revolution yet.

    #34 11 months ago
  35. Legendaryboss

    @33
    Okay.

    #35 11 months ago
  36. DSB

    Definite potential there. But he’s still gonna lose milliseconds in shooters, and that’s still not something you want.

    @26 You can set it to glide, but I think it’s pretty obvious that the reason why they haven’t is that there’s no way it would be precise.

    That’s precisely why current gamepads don’t work. So I’d say the fact that you can use it as a laptop trackpad is an advantage, although I agree, I don’t see why you wouldn’t just use a mouse.

    It seems pretty unneccessary.

    #36 11 months ago
  37. YoungZer0

    Naw, Geki’s criticism is pretty much valid. I wouldn’t like that at all. Even if you push the sensitivity very high, you’d still have stop and slide all the time.

    #37 11 months ago
  38. absolutezero

    You know how Arcade sticks are the best way to play fighting games? Yet you do not need an arcade stick in order to play and enjoy fighting games?

    MIND BLOWN.

    #38 11 months ago
  39. Gekidami

    @31
    I got the Wii at launch because it was “different”, i’m not making that mistake again. I mean this pad looks like it’ll help you pull off more precise shots, but whats the point if as soon as a guy runs behind you you have the maneuverability of a tank turret?

    Sorry but i’ll stick to holding down an analogue = steadily panning in a direction.

    #39 11 months ago
  40. Panthro

    I guess its OK for console fanboys to trip over their erections for consoles and controllers that they haven’t used yet… but when it comes to PC gamers, we better keep our mouths shut and not show any excitement :’(

    #40 11 months ago
  41. Joe Musashi

    You know Panthro, for the record, I wasn’t addressing you. But you clearly felt I was.

    Now you’ve gone all super-sensitive on me. I really don’t think our views are that opposed, but if you want to wade in with guns blazing then, hey, thats up to you. My guns are mouse+keyboard controlled, so I guess I have an unfair advantage.

    doyouseewhatIdidthere.gif

    JM

    Sarcastic pedant edit: “..to trip over their..”

    Edit 2: Bless. He fixed it. You do care after all! :)

    #41 11 months ago
  42. Gekidami

    @40
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8ukak8P2vY

    Seriously, stop your butthurt.

    #42 11 months ago
  43. absolutezero

    I think they might be in a state of bewilderment at seeing entrenched mouse and keyboard evangelists spaff over a controller. Even though most of them have 360 pads hooked to a PC anyway.

    #43 11 months ago
  44. Panthro

    @41 I admit that was a good one ;) ouch.

    Yeah I love my mouse and keyboard, best controls that I have used since the PS1 in the age of 3D platforming glory.

    Guess I will revoke some of my harsh words if you didnt directly mean me, Im just used to people on this site having something against any one who uses a gaming PC

    #44 11 months ago
  45. fearmonkey

    @39 – I am kind of a controller fanboy lol, love to collec them and try them all.

    The best controller I have ever used for FPS games was the Spaceorb, it destroyed a mouse and keyboard. A bunch of my friends and I would get together for Quake/Quake 2/Descent/Forsaken and one of them got the controller. It had a learning curve and we all laughed at our friend as he sucked with it. A month later he owned every one of us with it, and I bought one and did the same to my other gaming friends. It was only for FPS games but was amazing at its time.

    This could be like that, good for certain genres but not as good as a regular controller for others. If I can play certain games with a controller that I wasnt able to before, then it’s worth the purchase to me.

    #45 11 months ago
  46. Panthro

    @43 I use mine for platformers, so?

    @42 How about you go fuck yourself ;) And I will go wipe away the butthurt with the tears you made me cry.

    #46 11 months ago
  47. absolutezero

    They have more than enough reason to distrust anyone that routinely chooses to play games on a PC.

    Its Erth.

    #47 11 months ago
  48. DSB

    I think there are a lot of people doing a great job turning people off of their favourite platforms.

    I mean I’m like “I might buy a PS4… But then I’d be one of those guys”. And that kinda burns.

    #48 11 months ago
  49. Panthro

    @47

    Ive never done or said (that I can remember) anything that degrades any console user on this site, I may have expressed my dislike towards a controller but does that comment really apply to a human being who uses it? no it doesn’t.

    Yet when I log in I get nothing but hate, how about not generalizing and not being a dickhead ;) how does that sound?

    #49 11 months ago
  50. Erthazus

    “The best controller I have ever used for FPS games was the Spaceorb, it destroyed a mouse and keyboard. ”

    That controller with a giant ball if i’m not mistaken? Are you nuts? I’m sorry but that is a big lie.
    I know this controller and I even tried it

    This thing is not even close to a shitty mouse from 90s year (without even optic mechanism). If you believe in your words than you don’t know how to play games.

    Nothing can destroy mouse and keyboard if it’s speed of thumbstick is less than 1500 dpi.

    #50 11 months ago
  51. freedoms_stain

    @29, not necessarily, it can be set to 1-1 over most of the track pads surface and only accelerate at the very fringe of the pad.

    #51 11 months ago
  52. Panthro

    @48

    I know how you feel, I really wish people just stop with the negative comments about eachother regarding which platform they use, its ridiculous. I dont even want to be known as a ‘PC gamer’ because I get labelled as ‘PC elitist’ or a ‘PC Beggar’ when I never pirate games.
    How about just being known as a ‘gamer’ I wish people still saw it that way.

    #52 11 months ago
  53. pcbros

    Nice to see this controller isn’t all looks ;)

    I’m proud of them for using a new design and not going with the standard mold. And I’m even happier that it’s a design that appears to work really well.

    Indies + Valve = Exciting future

    #53 11 months ago
  54. Juice_Man101

    @47
    You don’t know how true that is.

    #54 11 months ago
  55. Erthazus

    http://lh6.ggpht.com/nubie07/R-KUsH7bH_I/AAAAAAAAAts/AeZwskeG9Zc/s288/DSCF1076.JPG

    Yeah this is it. Found it on google. I played it. It’s a trash. You can’t do the same moves with one finger that you can do with your hand.
    If you think otherwise than you have some serious issues.

    #55 11 months ago
  56. Joe Musashi

    Panthro, what you’re asking isn’t unreasonable. But, as demonstrated in this discussion (and countless others), a notoriously brash PC gamer with intolerance issues sadly does a great disservice to the perception of “PC Gamer”.

    For what it’s worth, any person that acted that way and affiliated themselves with a specific platform would also give that platform a stigma within this community.

    You’re simply reaping the seeds sown by another.

    JM

    #56 11 months ago
  57. DSB

    @Panthro I think you need to take it a lot less seriously. The tone on VG247 is a little “edgy” but it’s really just shits and giggles.

    Just say no to drama. Ignore it. Stay out of that shit, and just say what you wanna say.

    I’ve been a PC gamer since kindergarden (also fucked around with everything between a Master System and the 360) but I really don’t see why I’d ever have to be threatened by other peoples bias.

    I’m perfectly content with the platform, and the exorbitant amount I’ve spent on it over the years, and that’s not about to change. If people get something wrong, correct ‘em. It doesn’t have to be all dramatic.

    That’s when VG247 goes from interesting to fucking tedious for me.

    #57 11 months ago
  58. absolutezero

    It would help somewhat if we all just stopped rising to the shitty bait. I know its difficult somewhat when someone is just that wrong, to stop and just ignore it.

    We all know who they are, we all know what to expect.

    #58 11 months ago
  59. polygem

    looks like it needs some time to get used to it but it seems like it’s working pretty damn well. can’t wait to check this out!

    #59 11 months ago
  60. bradk825

    Hmmm. I don’t know. I could see switching to this from a mouse quite easily, but I don’t know if I could switch from thumbsticks to it without a lot of practice before it would work well for me.

    #60 11 months ago
  61. Erthazus

    By the way. This is just a prototype and not a finished product. I wonder what will be in the center (it’s going to be a touch panel) but than how it will work!?

    #61 11 months ago
  62. G1GAHURTZ

    No thanks.

    Not for FPSs, anyway…

    The trackpad for aiming sounds interesting in theory, but looking at that video, using a thumbstick is much easier.

    I don’t think all that swiping, placing and replacing is going to compare to using a simple thumbstick.

    Having said that, the fact that it looks like they’ve made it possible to transfer mouse commands to a controller should make casual gaming a whole lot easier…

    It just looks like it would be a big disadvantage against anyone using a m/kb for PC FPSs, and not as comfortable as a regular controller.

    #62 11 months ago
  63. pcbros

    There are idiots for every brand…

    “Toys”R”Us, the world’s leading dedicated toy and juvenile products retailer, was forced to remove it’s Xbox One demo video from YouTube today due to the enormous amount of obscene and racist comments. The video highlighted the Xbox One as part of the company’s “Fabulous 15″ list but was quickly besieged by angry PlayStation 4 fans giving it thumbs down votes and users leaving profane and racist remarks. Comments were later disabled for the video and then it was completely removed.” (Link)

    Just enjoy your console and don’t worry what people think. Some people go out of their way to bash the competition.

    I’m looking forward to the Steam Machine no matter how many times haters will try to convince me it will fail. :)

    #63 11 months ago
  64. G1GAHURTZ

    ^ Yeah, the Sony fanboys are some of the most rabid around. Have been for years.

    #64 11 months ago
  65. DSB

    Nothing comes close to the SNES-Megadrive War of 1992.

    It made the Yugoslav War seem like first grade, and first grade seem like the Yugoslav War.

    Seriously, I watched people beat eachother up. They were 7 year olds, but that’s still people though.

    Proud veteran right here. Blood was fucking spilled.

    #65 11 months ago
  66. Panthro

    Yeah I don’t care what people what people say I’ll never abandon what I like just because of other peoples opinions, I just wish people where more accepting of others opinions instead of lashing out.

    #66 11 months ago
  67. Ekona

    It certainly shows promise as a controller, but I suspect it’s going to work very favourably with some games and be an utter failure with others.

    We also have no idea how comfortable it is to hold, and that’s arguably more important than anything.

    #67 11 months ago
  68. pcbros

    @65 – I fought in that war! 78th Platoon of the Nintendo Army :)

    @67 – It’s biggest challenge might be fighting games.

    #68 11 months ago
  69. Joe Musashi

    All platforms have their rabid fanboys. It’s the just-as-rabid-but-like-to-pretend-they’re-ever-so-neutral that you have to be wary of. Echoing PR speak here. Pushing corporate misinformation there.

    But those ones always give themselves away pretty quickly. It’s just funnier because they continue to put on their act as though people haven’t already seen through it.

    JM

    PS: C64 4 LYFE (SYS 64739)

    #69 11 months ago
  70. Panthro

    @65 I once helped a friend stuff a NEO-GEO pad into his mouth so that it was stuck in his cheeks, his mother took about an hour trying to break it in his mouth to remove it.

    It hasn’t got anything to do with console wars, but it sure was hilarious.

    #70 11 months ago
  71. DSB

    53rd SEGA Ranger Regiment! Mess with the hedgehog and you get the quills.

    #71 11 months ago
  72. G1GAHURTZ

    Yeah, well, we all know who won between Nintendo and SEGA, don’t we?

    Smelly, pointy nosed, blue hedgehog couldn’t save a useless console with a pathetic D-pad! Lol.

    @69:

    So you think a person who is a fanboy in denial, but speaks reasonably is actually worse than one who spams forums and comment sections with profanity/sexism/racism just to get competitors PR taken offline?

    I’m not sure you’ve thought that one through, now have have you?

    #72 11 months ago
  73. pcbros

    @71 – 53rd SEGA Ranger Regiment… I thought we wiped you all out.

    Although now that I think of it… there was a guy named Da Sega Believer who escaped. Never to be seen again…

    @72 – “So you think a person who is a fanboy in denial, but speaks reasonably is actually worse than one who spams forums and comment sections with profanity/sexism/racism just to get competitors PR taken offline?

    I’m not sure you’ve thought that one through, now have have you?”

    +1

    #73 11 months ago
  74. dexfx69

    ONE THING folks are missing here. Valve are getting greedy, trying to compete with consoles, by making a console which is actually a PC in console clothing, then doing away with keyboard and mouse and replacing it with a handheld console controller, eventually trying to do away with PCs and make it so you’re forced to buy their console – think about it. You’ve got most of your games on steam, then once steam has enough consoled sold, they will make it very difficult to play those games on PC, in order to force you to buy their console. So thumbs down to Valve’s PC console.

    #74 11 months ago
  75. freedoms_stain

    @74, yeah, that’s why they’re bothering to release an open source operating system.

    #75 11 months ago
  76. Panthro

    @74

    Yeah, damn Valve for giving people options, those greedy bastards.

    http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4q0zikPbP1qlrwe9o6_r2_500.gif

    The lack of smarts… it hurts my eyes.

    #76 11 months ago
  77. pcbros

    @74 – If the Steam Machine is a PC with a console shell… how are they getting rid of PCs?

    And how can they force us to buy their console if…

    1. You can run Steam on Windows, Mac and Linux.
    2. You can install SteamOS on any machine you build or buy.

    #77 11 months ago
  78. Moonwalker1982

    @14

    It might offer clearly better precision, but how do you know for sure that it will work for you too? I am very used to thumbsticks and i find nothing wrong with them. Let’s say i was to play a game and when controlling a character i don’t actually feel that i am using the thumbstick because well…it’s a trackpad. I truly wonder what that is going to be like and if i can get used to that.

    #78 11 months ago
  79. Ekona

    Another thought: If trackpads are so great for games, why are we still using mice?

    #79 11 months ago
  80. yeoung

    Dear god this comments section is a mess. Even JM’s getting hot and bothered, usually quite level headed. Hast thine cup runneth over? Either way, divisive piece of tech it would seem.

    Personally still not sold on the necessity of the left trackpad. Thumbstick/Trackpad combo would seem more efficient and less… unwieldy (for lack of better term).

    #80 11 months ago
  81. monkeygourmet

    I really want to see how the haptic feedback works.

    I think that feature will tie everything together, without it, having zero tactile feedback wouldn’t really work with 2 touch pads or at least would take too much messing with to get used too…

    Looks very comfortable to use. I presume its wireless?

    #81 11 months ago
  82. yeoung

    @76: “Ze goggles, zhey do nothing!”

    #82 11 months ago
  83. freedoms_stain

    @78, people who have used it claim the haptic feedback makes it feel like you are moving a physical object rather than just rubbing a pad.

    #83 11 months ago
  84. monkeygourmet

    @80

    JM / Shatner can usually keep it under control, occasionally we see a melt down and that’s when things get a bit messy. It’s like an art instillation; a beautiful stream of bile.

    #84 11 months ago
  85. pcbros

    @79 – I think it has to do with the lack of coordination of using the left hand on the WASD keys and using your index finger on the trackpad.

    Also, why assume these are basic trackpads?

    Second, if mouse and keyboard are so great, why are people still using gamepads?

    A lot of it will be preference.

    #85 11 months ago
  86. fearmonkey

    @50 @ 55 – Erth you have no idea what the hell you are talking about..seriously!!

    You “tried” the controller, well great for you but there was quite the learning curve to it, and it took a good month of continual playing to master it. Most people that “tried” it couldn’t do much with it, it was a very different way of playing. That ball allowed very sensitive movement that was very precise, and games back then had more more steps between slow to fast movement and it was unbelievable how quick you could turn and jump and fire.

    It was especially good at Descent and Forsaken and I destroyed so many mouse and keyboard players as well as trackball players back then with it. I would go to Lan parties and own everyone and not because I was a God at the game, but because of that controller. Every Mouse and keyboard player I played Forsaken or Descent against bought one, as well as many Quake gamers.

    A good spaceorb player would own any good mouse and keyboard player at any Quake, Unreal Tournament, Descent style game. Not so sure it would have been as great for games like Ghost recon where absolute precision mattered.

    (I know whats coming, your going to tell me now that you had one hand tied behind your back playing with a IBM Keyboard and a cheap $5 mouse and owned a room of people playing with the Spaceorb.)

    #86 11 months ago
  87. Joe Musashi

    72 & 73 So much irony, somebody should write a song about it. (63 & 64)

    JM

    #87 11 months ago
  88. Lateralis_ip

    Man it looks amazing, can’t wait to try it.

    #88 11 months ago
  89. CyberMarco

    After re-watching the CS segment, I’ perplexed on how it can be useful for FPS games.

    Let’s take BF4 for example. You can map movement (AWSD) and sprint (by clicking) on the left track-pad and mouse movement and melee (by clicking) on the right track-pad. Then you have 6 more buttons were you can reach without lifting the thumbs.

    2 rear-triggers for left and right mouse buttons, then 1 shoulder button for grenade and the other 1 for reloading. Then the 2 back buttons crouching and prawning.

    And we are missing the tag button, use button, change weapons/accessories/gadgets etc.

    So yeah, not so comfortable and versatile compared to m/k but yet again dual-sticks controllers get the job done.

    If it ain’t broken don’t fix it, right?

    #89 11 months ago
  90. monkeygourmet

    @89

    “If it ain’t broken don’t fix it, right?”

    Too a point, yeah. It’s not like your stuck for options with PC gaming though. I imagine this pad will get packaged with Steam machines and provide an ability to go up against K/M players without getting completely slaughtered once you get the hang of it.

    #90 11 months ago
  91. freedoms_stain

    @89, there’s no need for a dedicated sprint button, if your thumb is at the top edge of the track pad shift+W is engaged.

    You don’t need dedicated buttons for crouch and prone either, those can be done on the left track pad.

    The track pads are amazingly versatile. Whereas an analogue stick can only be clicked in for one function the track pad can be clicked in multiple locations for different functions, and still be a track pad.

    #91 11 months ago
  92. TheWulf

    @15

    See, here’s the thing I’m sick of — using ‘elitism’ to attack a brand you hate. If you’re not a bona fide console jockey, you’re an evil elitist. It’s like jocks and greasers all over again.

    Amazing how the “Mouse and keyboard is the best, far better than any gamepad could ever be..” evangelists are blowing their load over a gamepad all of a sudden.

    You read like a sociopath, I’m sorry, but you do. Do you even read the hate-ridden nonsense you write? When I write a post, I sit and read it a few times just to make sure it doesn’t end up like that.

    With that out of the way… Where do you get this notion that PC gamers hate gamepads? I certainly don’t feel that way, as I was using a game pad to play Glare just this morning. I’ve actually never seen a single PC user unironically make the claim that the keyboard & mouse combo are superior in every situation. Even TB, the most serious PC enthusiast I’ve ever encountered, doesn’t believe that.

    Steambox: the console for PC elitists.

    So this is how your dictionary reads?

    e·lit·ist
    əˈlētist,āˈlētist/
    noun
    adjective: elitist; noun: elitist; plural noun: elitists

    1. a soulless heretic who buys a product other than that which I buy.

    Okay, but that’s not how that word works. And you should stop using it like that.

    [...] doctored-image posting [...]

    It’s Conspiracy Time, with your host, Joe Musashi!

    You really need to read your posts before you post them. Do you have any idea how frothingly crazy this makes you sound?

    So, my point is made. I have nothing against console owners, nor do I have anything against console peripherals. What I often see though is sociopathic console gamers attacking me for simply having chosen a different product than what they did.

    I might be elitist in their view, but they’re batshit crazy in mine.

    #92 11 months ago
  93. Joe Musashi

    I’m flattered by the effort and length you’ve gone to to misinterpret and put words into my mouth.

    JM

    #93 11 months ago
  94. pcbros

    @87 – Look everybody, it’s Joe Minutia on his high horse passing his mighty judgement again on internet comment sections. Bow down to the King of Trifling matters.

    But at least I know your comment was an official statement, since you wrote your initials at the end. If it weren’t for those initials, I would have never known that comment came from you or whether you actually wrote it.

    Get a life and stop trying to be superior to others. It’s a video game comment section for crying out loud.

    #94 11 months ago
  95. Joe Musashi

    So pleased to see how unaffected you are. Keep at it, champ.

    JM

    #95 11 months ago
  96. pcbros

    @95 – As you wish lord Minutia.

    PCB

    #96 11 months ago
  97. Armalyte

    *sigh*
    It’s just a piece (of admittedly innovative) hardware.

    @all
    http://i.imgur.com/icVkVbv.gif

    #97 11 months ago
  98. polygem

    joe what kind of strange kicks are you getting out of this? i don’t think it’s healthy to play these little games this often online.

    #98 11 months ago
  99. Joe Musashi

    Thank you for your concern, you shouldn’t have.

    JM

    #99 11 months ago
  100. Panthro

    100th…

    http://gifs.gifbin.com/1238064282_legless_breaker.gif

    #100 11 months ago
  101. monkeygourmet

    Ha! This is eerily similar to the classic Shatner style of old… Just before the ban. It was deranged genius to shift that anal nit-picking onto other forumites rather than the staff. Much less chance of another ban…

    #101 11 months ago
  102. Moonwalker1982

    I’m definitely interested in seeing how this will unfold. But some people seem to expect the world from it, they say thumbsticks are ancient and its time for something new. But i say….is it truly necessary? Cause i for one am definitely not tired of thumbsticks and i think they are fine. I think it’s way too early to start overhyping this. We don’t even yet know what Valve’s real plans are.

    #102 11 months ago
  103. sebastien rivas

    @102
    Ha remember that it is Pc based. Nothing prevents you from getting another controller let alone ps4 controller are pc based and may be adapted to steam os. .. or so down the road.

    #103 11 months ago
  104. G1GAHURTZ

    @87:

    Oh, you were just trolling.

    And there was me thinking that you might actually be making a legitimate comment, for once…

    Carry on, leopard.

    #104 11 months ago
  105. DennoCoil

    >Doing turns by flicking and swiping your finger across the pad.

    Fuck that shit. I probably would have liked it if it worked like a real joystick, but that just looks terrible. Stick to either a mouse or stick. This is why track pads are bad for most games.

    #105 11 months ago
  106. pcbros

    Speaking of Steam, anyone buy any Capcom games during the weekend sale?

    #106 11 months ago
  107. Xbone

    (so many stupid people in this comment section)

    I would NEVER EVER PLAY AN FPS WITH A SHITTY ANALOG CONTROLLER. Never. But this… If I would game on my nonexistence bigscreen TV… yea… I could see myself using this. Not for competitive gaming tho. And all in all, I think this was the goal.
    This controller is way more innovative than anything about the next-gen consoles. Cant wait to see the steamOS.

    #107 11 months ago
  108. archaven

    Looks really good. Only thing i noticed.. precision still not comparable to a mouse. But anyhow.. gonna try it once release. Hopefully it’s not too expensive.

    #108 11 months ago
  109. CatheyBarrett42

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    #109 11 months ago
  110. Edo

    All eyes should be on the next gen consoles,WTF are you doing Valve!?!?

    #110 11 months ago
  111. DrDamn

    It looks a lot more natural as a mouse controller than a regular dual stick one. The first person stuff looks like it might need a fair bit of getting used to, once you are used to it it might be good. Little bit telling they chose static targets for the FPS, wonder how easy it is to track a moving target?

    #111 11 months ago
  112. G1GAHURTZ

    ^ I don’t think it’s necessarily the tracking of moving objects which would be difficult in itself. It looks very easy to use for short movements within a certain range.

    It’s once you start doing the bigger movements where it looks to have the most apparent issue.

    From that video, to do a full 360 degree turn appears to need you to remove and replace your thumb from the trackpad at least twice. (He actually does it 5 times at one point.)

    That’s something that can be done with a simple fraction of a second movement with a thumbstick on a high sensitivity.

    I’m sure that you’ll be able to change the sensitivity on this too, but how would that affect the short movements?

    Of course it needs to be played with, but the placing and replacing looks like a disadvantage against both a mouse and a thumbstick to me.

    #112 11 months ago
  113. DrDamn

    Yeah that’s what I meant with tracking. Small tracks place thumb and move it with the object. Larger tracks and you will get to the point where you have to remove your thumb and re-place it. That’s not gonna be good. Lots of config and you could find something workable, but its a lot more complex for devs to set up and lots can’t even get sticks right.

    #113 11 months ago
  114. Oynox Slider

    It does look good, of course, and I have a serious interest in the Steam Machines, but this looks like a controller, a good old controller. Nothing new or spectacular in my opinion..

    #114 11 months ago
  115. silkvg247

    It looks precise, but it looks like the equivalent of having a mouse mat the size of a coaster. I like big pads and I like to be able to turn at least two full rotations without my mouse falling off the edge.

    The 1:1 looks to support a half turn rotation from the centre outward.

    #115 11 months ago
  116. Pitts

    Definitely the best controller I’ve ever seen for PC gaming.

    #116 11 months ago
  117. DSB

    @112 Good point, but others have said that you can map the gradients on the trackpad. So if you want to have high sensitivity on the outer edges, you can do that, but that still seems like it’ll take some getting used to.

    #117 11 months ago
  118. sebastien rivas

    Good or bad, we can say what we want, provide all technological cues or dream a reality.
    Tje fact remains the same, we will now when we can try1 in our hand.

    #118 11 months ago
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