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Beyond: Two Souls – reviews for Quantic Dream’s latest arrive, get all the scores here

Tuesday, 8th October 2013 16:00 GMT By Stephany Nunneley

Beyond: Two Souls is the latest high-profile release from Dave Cage and his team at Quantic Dream, and today, the embargo has lifted on reviews. We’ve round up a few scores to get you started below.

Here’s the scores – which are all over the place:

Polygon – 8
CVG – 6
Eurogamer – 6
God is a Geek – 9
Destructiod – 5
Edge – 5
Gamechump -7.5
OPM – 8
Joystiq – 2.5/5
VentureBeat – 88/100
Gameranx – 3
GameFront – 55/100
New York Times – No Score
GamingBolt – 8
Electronic Theatre – 84/100
VideoGamer – 4
Next-Gen Gaming Blog – 9
Shacknews – 5
Neoseeker – 9
The Verge – No Score
ShopTo – No score
IGN – 6
Kotaku – Yes
Digital Spy – 5/5
Gamersyde – No Score
PSU- 9.5
Gamespot -9
Toronto Sun – 80/100
Game Informer – 7.75
Metro – 4
Meristation – 8.3
Gamer.no – 7
Canadian Online Gamers – 75/100
PlayStation Lifestyle – 8.5
Inside Games – 90/100

Beyond: Two Souls launches today, October 8, in North America exclusively on PS3. It releases October 9 in Europe and October 11 in the UK.

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  1. ecc

    Gamechup: 7.5/10 – http://www.gamechup.com/beyond-two-souls-review-flawed-but-riveting/

    Add ours too Steph!

    #1 10 months ago
  2. Kachlo

    Konzolista.cz – 8/10 – http://konzolista.tiscali.cz/articles/onearticle?link=beyond-two-souls-176719

    #2 10 months ago
  3. Marcel

    insidegames – 90%

    http://www.insidegames.ch/review/beyond-two-souls-ps3-test-review/

    Thanks!

    #3 10 months ago
  4. rashid

    GamingBolt: http://gamingbolt.com/beyond-two-souls-review 8/10 =)

    Thanks!

    #4 10 months ago
  5. Dark

    IGN 6/10
    http://ca.ign.com/articles/2013/10/08/beyond-two-souls-review

    #5 10 months ago
  6. Legendaryboss

    I knew it was going to be a hit or miss with the media.

    #6 10 months ago
  7. Joe Anderson

    ShopTo – No Score.

    http://www.shopto.net/news/44290/Beyond-Two-Souls-Review

    Thanks :)

    #7 10 months ago
  8. daevgs

    GameStar Hungary 89/100
    http://www.gamestar.hu/beyond-two-souls-teszt.html

    #8 10 months ago
  9. Dave Cook

    @6 Read this. I don’t toot my own horn much, but I tried to be as balanced and explain why it may polarise people as best as I could – http://www.vg247.com/2013/10/08/beyond-two-souls-tugs-at-the-heart-but-is-it-a-success/

    Personally, I enjoyed it.

    #9 10 months ago
  10. pukem0n

    it’s a PS exclusive and gets bad scores?

    then it must be utter crap

    #10 10 months ago
  11. Crazyreyn

    Digital Spy, 5/5
    http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/gaming/review/a521821/beyond-two-souls-review-ps3-breathtakingly-cinematic.html

    #11 10 months ago
  12. Keivz

    Gamespot 9/10. A bit divisive this one is…

    #12 10 months ago
  13. Adam Scab

    games™ 8/10 http://www.gamestm.co.uk/reviews/beyond-two-souls-review/

    #13 10 months ago
  14. pamelapatty

    GamesVillage.it 9.1/10
    http://www.gamesvillage.it/review/58910/beyond-due-anime-recensione.html

    #14 10 months ago
  15. Mike W

    @10

    It’s 2013 and some people still can’t comprehend the fact that reviews are someone else’s opinion.

    #15 10 months ago
  16. NeoSquall

    Everyeye.it (Italian): 8/10
    http://www.everyeye.it/ps3/articoli/beyond-two-souls_recensione_20748

    #16 10 months ago
  17. Ireland Michael

    The EDGE review sadly confirms my biggest fear from the demo about Beyond – that messed up inputs wouldn’t end in failure. A game that is impossible to fail makes for a very limited design, and saps the experience of almost all tension.

    Still, there are a lot of things about Beyond I’m looking forward to. This is definitely going to be a divisive one.

    #17 10 months ago
  18. get2sammyb

    Push Square – 8/10:
    http://www.pushsquare.com/reviews/ps3/beyond_two_souls

    Thanks so much.

    #18 10 months ago
  19. Luciferous

    Wow, scores are all over the place.

    I enjoyed the demo and i loved Heavy Rain so I’m still excited for this.

    #19 10 months ago
  20. VibraniumSpork

    Well, that settles it. Going to have to try this one out for myself before making any kind of judgement call. Some love it, some seem ‘meh’ about it, though it’s good that no-one seems to hate it. The scores vary enough for me to probably wait until it’s nearer the bargain bins though…

    #20 10 months ago
  21. Marcel

    insidegames – 90 / 100

    http://www.insidegames.ch/review/beyond-two-souls-ps3-test-review/

    #21 10 months ago
  22. Xephon_70

    Divisive as ever, not surprising. I want to play it for myself. I enjoyed Heavy Rain, so I’m sure to get something out of this.

    #22 10 months ago
  23. Edo

    Er GameInformer review is actually a 7.75/10
    http://www.gameinformer.com/games/beyond_two_souls/b/ps3/archive/2013/10/08/beyond-two-souls-review-playstation-3.aspx

    #23 10 months ago
  24. Stephany Nunneley

    @23 yes It was fixed

    #24 10 months ago
  25. foofly

    It’s out on Friday in the UK, not today.

    #25 10 months ago
  26. Malmer

    Since the scores are all over the place, I guess this is a game that is actually good for real, and not just a lot of hype. Truly good things usually are polarizing.

    #26 10 months ago
  27. mikybcz

    Zing.cz – 9/10 -> http://www.zing.cz/recenze/1060/beyond-two-souls-neobycejne-dobrodruzstvi

    #27 10 months ago
  28. Eregol

    @17 A bit like the forthcoming Ryse then.
    Although, outside of those prompts Ryse does have more ‘interaction’ in it.

    Played Beyond at EGX and thought it was dreadful. The blow could have been softened if I hadn’t have spent 30 minutes queueing to play it. But, the damage had been done.

    #28 10 months ago
  29. Marcel

    @Stephany Nunneley

    Did you forgot me?

    #29 10 months ago
  30. gamesmack_irl

    Game-Smack Ireland: 9.1/10 —> http://game-smack.net/?p=7008

    #30 10 months ago
  31. PEYJ

    Jesus!?!

    I have never seen nor heard about such a spread out amount of opinions on the same game!

    #31 10 months ago
  32. Erthazus

    Someone said that this looks like Next Gen. I think it was hwc87 or whatever.

    Yeh, game looks OK with Playstation 2 textures.

    but now with DUMB characters compared to Heavy Rain or Fahrenheit.

    #32 10 months ago
  33. Mike W

    @31

    I believe the same thing happened to heavy rain

    #33 10 months ago
  34. Dave Cook

    @32 ???

    I can absolutely say that some bits do look close to some next-gen titles I’ve played so far, DURING gameplay as well, not the movie scenes.

    The Somalia section looks brilliant for one.

    #34 10 months ago
  35. Ireland Michael

    “….with Playstation 2 textures.”

    Actual PS2 textures: http://www.gamechup.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/FFX-HD-1-original.jpg

    Screenshot from Beyond: http://media.edge-online.com/wp-content/uploads/edgeonline/2013/10/Beyond-Two-Souls-2.jpg

    #35 10 months ago
  36. Hivvu

    Portuguese website WASD, gave it also an 8. See it here!
    http://www.wasd.pt/analises/analise-beyond-two-souls-ps3

    #36 10 months ago
  37. Mike W

    @34

    Dave ignore him/her, he/she already established himself/herself as a fucking idiot.

    #37 10 months ago
  38. Hcw87

    @32
    I never said it looked next gen. I said it looked very very good, actually better than most current gen games.

    But that doesn’t say much when it’s so non interactive. Great graphics, very limited gameplay. That’s why i don’t have huge hopes for that Sorcerer Demo. We won’t have proper gameplay-filled games with those graphics for a LONG time.

    #38 10 months ago
  39. _LarZen_

    The score is just like with Heavy Rain. All over the place, everything from trash to epic.

    I love Heavy Rain and regard that as one of the best games this console generation. So Beyond: Two Souls looks to be yet a mind blowing experience.

    #39 10 months ago
  40. Icetea

    XGN.nl – 9.5/10
    http://www.xgn.nl/ps3/review/50292/beyond-two-souls/

    #40 10 months ago
  41. Lv01

    i imagine, if you are a heavy rain fan, this will appeal to you. its less QTE reliant, whilst being all about the story and the emotion.
    the trick is whether or not the story is as engaging.
    that will be what sells it or sets it out as a success. but even then, it will be subjective, and everyones opinion will differ.
    as dave said in his review, this will be divisive. and these review scores have proven that unequivocally.

    #41 10 months ago
  42. Dragon

    @34,35,
    You are wasting time on the wrong guy. He knows the game inside out without ever playing it.

    @37,
    +1

    On topic, I don’t really fault the reviews. On the contrary, I think many reviews (including low scores) were great since major focus was given to story and presentation rather than “gameplay” and hence, I feel, judged the game on right parameters. Too many games from niche genres fall victim to reviews that don’t focus on their strengths imo.

    Inb4, “THIS IS NOT A GAEMZ” argument…

    #42 10 months ago
  43. Legendaryboss

    Sigh, might as well:

    http://giffiles.alphacoders.com/192/1929.gif

    http://mrwgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/This-Gonna-Be-Good-Popcorn-Gif.gif

    #43 10 months ago
  44. Ireland Michael

    @42 I know, I just found the comparison to PS2 graphics funny

    People don’t seem to realise just how much is being pulled off with very low specs on current hardware. And I personally find that far more impressive than any fancy post processing effect could ever achieve on superior hardware. It shows a far greater capacity for technical excellence.

    #44 10 months ago
  45. Erthazus

    @35, I’m talking about TEXTURES and not MODELS. You idiot. Seriously.

    Game’s models look very good.

    I’m talking about SNOW textures. They are from PS2′s fahrenheit.

    #45 10 months ago
  46. Ireland Michael

    @45 I know you’re talking about the textures, “you idiot”.

    And no, they’re not.

    #46 10 months ago
  47. Erthazus

    @46, they are. I know it because I played Fahrenheit on the PC and PS2. They are exactly the same PS2 fest in 720P image.

    @Dave cook, Next Gen? Are you nuts? 720p fest with outdated textures and crappy Anti Aliasing, shadows and filters without decent clothes physics?

    Want Next gen?
    THIS IS NEXT GEN: http://media.giphy.com/media/pFP0tLcesIJBS/giphy.gif

    Sorry, but that was very dumb to say that it played or looked like next gen because it’s not.

    #47 10 months ago
  48. Dave Cook

    @47 You’ve gone mental mate, seriously.

    #48 10 months ago
  49. Legendaryboss

    @47
    http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view4/1507654/lord-give-me-strength-o.gif

    #49 10 months ago
  50. Erthazus

    @Dave,
    If you think that i’m wrong on this subject than prove it. Where it looks like Next generation in what aspect?

    http://media.giphy.com/media/pFP0tLcesIJBS/giphy.gif – this is next gen effect… and to be honest. It’s not even next gen. It’s current-gen Direct X11 effect with clothes physics with tesselation.

    What technologies were used for Beyond Two souls?

    Motion Capture? So this is next generation?

    #50 10 months ago
  51. Hcw87

    @50
    That doesn’t even look that good. Looks far too liquid. There are better examples you could have used there.

    #51 10 months ago
  52. Dave Cook

    @50 Sorry I’m done. It’s like I’m pissing into the wind and it’s flying back in my face, with some drops even going back into my mouth.

    You’re the wind.

    #52 10 months ago
  53. Ireland Michael

    Fahrenheit / Indigo Prophecy snow – http://coinarcade.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/fahrenheit-gameplay.jpg

    Beyond: Two Souls snow – http://media.officialplaystationmagazine.co.uk/files/2013/03/hobo_snow1.jpg

    #53 10 months ago
  54. Erthazus

    @53, you used google for these screenshots. The problem is that one is high res and other one is not.

    Trailers do a much better job. Snow in Beyond is not impressive and some of the textures are not that good.

    Models? Yeah. They look very good. Facial animation? Fantastic as always from Quantic Dream.

    @Dave cook, Sorry but you are the wind because you have ZERO argument.

    you said that it looks a bit like next gen. Show me That Next Generation. You can’t and that’s it.
    I showed you an impressive gif that shows you what exaclty technology wise looks impressive.

    #54 10 months ago
  55. KineticCalvaria

    @54, Let’s see…who gives a fuck… I know I don’t, end of.

    #55 10 months ago
  56. Erthazus

    @55, Me too. But I remember there was a guy that said that Beyond looked like a Next Gen game which is a silly argument.

    #56 10 months ago
  57. Ireland Michael

    @54 One is “high res” because the hardware rendering it has a resolution output three times higher than the previous console.

    You said it was “PS2 level” textures. You said the textures were straight “from Fahrenheit”. That’s a PS2 screenshot of the game.

    Even if it wasn’t, one is clearly a stretched, flat texture, and the other has visible depth and volume to it. They are more polygons being processed in that snow alone than in the entirety of Fahrenheit.

    #57 10 months ago
  58. Legendaryboss

    @55
    http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/240/117/e4f.gif

    #58 10 months ago
  59. KineticCalvaria

    @56, we all have different ideas of what next-gen looks like, compared to games at the beginning of this gen I’m sure it looks a hell of a lot better.

    #59 10 months ago
  60. Erthazus

    There is no such thing as the IDEA.
    Look here: http://media.giphy.com/media/pFP0tLcesIJBS/giphy.gif
    This is a great example of something that current gen consoles can’t do but next gen? Sure. Next gen can simulate physics at this level.

    but Beyond has nothing that feels or looks like Next Gen at all. It has everything that this gen had.

    #60 10 months ago
  61. Thugz99

    wow.

    #61 10 months ago
  62. Legendaryboss

    http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Boy-That-Escalated-Quickly-Anchorman.gif

    #62 10 months ago
  63. Ireland Michael

    @60 Some nice physics. Big whoop. Doesn’t make a game better.

    Still doesn’t stand up to your claim that Beyond uses “PS2 level” textures.

    #63 10 months ago
  64. Moonwalker1982

    Hmmmmm….I didn’t expect so many mixed reviews. BUT I loved Heavy Rain and really enjoyed the demo of Beyond, so I think it’ll be ok.

    #64 10 months ago
  65. Panthro

    Why do you guys even bother?
    Erthazus is clearly just a little bit upset about something in his life and has to evoke responses from random people on the internet…

    Indigo Prophecy snow: http://firsthour.net/screenshots/indigo-prophecy/indigo-prophecy-lucas-markus-cross.jpg

    Beyond snow: http://cdn.superbwallpapers.com/wallpapers/games/jodie-holmes-beyond-two-souls-21255-1600×900.jpg

    Hes clearly very wrong.

    + What kind of texture did he want the snow to have? its pretty much just a white surface anyway.

    I do agree with the cloth simulation, thats awesome imo… I love my gaming PC… but you cant bash 7 year old hardware and compare it to a modern day gaming PC, you always come out looking like an idiot if you do.

    #65 10 months ago
  66. monkeygourmet

    Graphics stuff aside, this seems to be a good example of why I don’t really give much power to the ‘Sony has best exclusives’ crowd.

    Sony has ALOT of exclusives, I can’t argue with that… But it also has ALOT of average exclusives and wasted oppertunities.

    They seem to use a ‘throw as much shit at the wall’ technique regarding exclusive titles, without actually making sure they offer long term memories for players.

    I quite enjoyied Heavy Rain, and will probably pick this up at some point, although it’s either going to be borrowed, rented or second hand.

    I’ve got a PS3 for the games it offers I can’t get on 360 / Nintendo systems, but, I can’t really call to mind any that I would really call ‘All time classics’. Maybe some of the PSN stuff, but thats not really the same.

    #66 10 months ago
  67. traumadisaster

    Its ok others like this bit of media, you dont have to persuade people not to buy it. Depending on my mood every genre has its time & place and I have a need for this today! Now in a month after hours of it I will want rome 2 or kinect game for a change.

    #67 10 months ago
  68. rbevanx

    Well I’m not gonna go through 60 odd posts of childish rubbish…

    Back on topic which is the game, I hated Heavy Rain but loved the previous one.
    Gonna see if it goes cheap as it will possibly be a 6hr game as I can see ebay etc being flooded with this one.
    the demo impressed me mind with no frame rate issues like I had with Heavy Rain with actions that felt like they had weight.

    #68 10 months ago
  69. viralshag

    I don’t think Sony has the best exclusives but it’s hard to argue to against them for having the most variety and at least attempting to offer something other than the norm.

    #69 10 months ago
  70. zoopdeloop

    @66 Since it’s obvious were you’re getting at neither 360′s exclusives were those kind of games one could call “all time classics” except for Gears of War.everything else was same old.This of course applies to Sony as well with a few more exceptions like Uncharted,LBP,Demon’s Souls,Last of Us (not exactly classic but pretty good start for a promising franchise)

    #70 10 months ago
  71. Xephon_70

    Well, this went south pretty quickly.

    At least it’s £10 cheaper on Amazon than Game.

    #71 10 months ago
  72. Joe Musashi

    Very divisive review scores – which makes the game all the more compelling.

    Although I have no compulsion to play it more than once, I was hugely impressed by Heavy Rain’s maturity and tone. They also did something I don’t recall any game ever doing – which is to allow it to continue even if a key protagonist dies. That’s a very smart narrative trick and, in the context of a thriller, pretty damn bold. The game was never trying to be Gears of War or Mario Kart or Call of Duty. In fact, it wasn’t trying to be any sort of fixed genre at all. People love to categorise and pigeon-hole and when they struggle to do that it can baffle and frustrate.

    I admire Heavy Rain for trying and for Sony for backing such a project. In precisely the same way I admire what Spec Ops The Line tried (and ultimately succeeded) at and 2K Games for backing that project.

    I’m enjoying the attacks on this game though. Especially from the quarters that once preached how one shouldn’t judge without playing. For which, I’m sure, they’ll give themselves special exception to excuse their own hypocrisy.

    Gaming as a medium and as a passtime is growing, developing and maturing. I’m very glad for efforts like Heavy Rain, Beyond, Spec Ops and others that challenge perceptions of what the medium can be used for. Mis-steps will be made but I’d rather people made the effort than said that the same thing over and over and over is good enough. Because it’s not.

    JM

    Snowgate. From the loon that posts doctored images to ‘prove’ points? What a crock!

    #72 10 months ago
  73. Panthro

    @66

    I dont think ive played any ‘all time classics’ on 360 either, some good games… But I dont think I’ll be revisiting any of them any time soon.

    Only current gen games that stand out for me were:

    1. mirrors edge
    2. metal gear solid 4 (not the best mgs, but still good)
    3. uncharted 2
    4. LBP
    5. Condemned 2
    6. God of War 3
    7. Shadow Complex
    8. Grifball (Halo multiplayer mode, Halo 3+ sucked)

    8 off the top of my head, theats quite bad considering the amount of PS3 and 360 games I’ve owned

    #73 10 months ago
  74. Panthro

    @72

    Its awesome that games are maturing but it seems like the audience for them is growing into a bunch of idiotic kids.

    #74 10 months ago
  75. Legendaryboss

    @72
    +100

    #75 10 months ago
  76. Joe Musashi

    @74 Gaming, for the most part, rewards conflict and agression and point-scoring. I don’t find it especially suprising that this mentality is reflected in its culture.

    Another reason why I welcome efforts that challenge that standard.

    JM

    #76 10 months ago
  77. polygem

    hated every second of heavy rain…never completed it though. stopped playing midgameish, tried 2 or three more times to finish it but it really bored me to death. not interested in this one either. don´t know if it´ll be good or bad, i will probably never find out and i don´t care.

    @73:

    only all time classic exclusive on ps3: demons souls
    only all time classic exclusive on 360: halo:reach

    #77 10 months ago
  78. fearmonkey

    @73 – Did you play the play the first Condemned game, it was far better than it’s sequel.

    I wish the ps4 was backwards compatible, i’d love to play this title. oh well, maybe it will get on Gaikai sometime.

    All this trashing by Erth on the game’s graphic quality has me puzzled. It’s an amazing looking current gen game, but of course it cant compare to a true next gen console game. You can only do so much with 256+256 memory.

    #78 10 months ago
  79. Dragon

    @72,
    +1
    “I’m enjoying the attacks on this game though. Especially from the quarters that once preached how one shouldn’t judge without playing. For which, I’m sure, they’ll give themselves special exception to excuse their own hypocrisy.”
    Yup. Just put another company and another game here and see the SPIN!

    For me, Valkyria Chronicles is a timeless classic from this gen.

    I think (like many here said), Sony should be applauded for bringing such diverse games to us. Hardly any other publisher take so much risk as Sony. Sure, everything isn’t a hit, but the spirit of trying is worth appreciating imo.
    Way better regurgitating same old shit 20-30 years down the line. Oh nostalgia…

    #79 10 months ago
  80. Ireland Michael

    @Joe Agreed with all of what you said, but I need to ask… what’s the big with Spec Ops?

    I’ve read up on the game a lot, and the messages that it supposedly attempted to convey, but the experience I got actually playing the game fell far short.

    I feel like I must be completely overlooking some crucial point that holds the whole concept together, because playing it, it just felt to me like everyone was reading way too much into the whole thing.

    #80 10 months ago
  81. polygem

    @79: i kind of disagree. while i appreciate that they are trying to deliver new experiences (other companies are doing that as well though) and in some cases indeed successfully deliver (journey), at the same time i feel like they make me wade through a swamp of mediocrity to finally find a hidden treasure somewhere…maybe.
    i said this before and i mean it. sony needs to focus on less is more – on quality over quantity. there was a sad drop in quality in the last years. i wish they´d realise that. they own some of the coolest ip´s but they don´t do anything great with them. what a shame really.

    #81 10 months ago
  82. Joe Musashi

    @80

    Spec Ops wears its Heart of Darkness colours pretty boldly and that should be a big clue. The game is very beguiling and spends a lot of time (including all efforts to promote the game) into making it seem like a humdrum ‘me too’ war shooter.

    What it does, better than almost any other other game, is manipulate the player and then challenge the impossible moral dilema of what it means to carry out such actions in terms of tone and context.

    If you’ve beaten the game then I’m sure you know what I’m talking about. If you’ve only played the first few chapters then “not getting what makes it so different/remarkable” is precisely the frame of mind the developers want you to be in.

    Hell, even having Nolan North voice the protagonist is part of its self-awareness.

    It’s not for everyone. And on pure gameplay terms it’s competent but not genre defining. What it achieves, overall, is remarkable though.

    IMO.

    @79 You know, in other sectors, such criticisms (valid or otherwise) would be dismissed as delusional ‘hatred‘ and ‘not getting it‘. Neither of which are actually tangible, logical arguments with any meaning (because they’re not addressing or countering criticism as opposed to merely dismissing it wholesale) – nor directed at the critique but at the critic. Can you imagine the reception to the ‘hatred‘ dismissal if it was employed in this discussion? Oh my.

    JM

    #82 10 months ago
  83. monkeygourmet

    I’m going to give Spec Ops another try, got completely sidetracked by other titles although am still not sure why a dev would try to risk players not continuing the game based on the average gameplay?

    The gameplay and shooting mechanics seemed so generic, I’d completely forgotten I own it. Will have another crack though.

    #83 10 months ago
  84. monkeygourmet

    As for this title, it’s a direction I don’t find particularly interesting when I think about gaming in the future. It feels more like a step backwards to Dragons Lair, rather than trying to merge storytelling with gameplay.

    I don’t begrudge it’s existence , but I’m not really keen for games containing actors like Dafoe trying to bridge the gap between the movie experience and video games. I think the only thing it achieves is diluting both mediums leaving neither one thing nor the other.

    I feel we have stepped away from this direction (mega CD, PC CDROM titles like 7th Guest), and although this is obviously more polished, it is effectively the same ‘style’ of game IMO. Maybe these kind of titles are perfectly suited to tablet play (which might explain the addition of that feature to Beyond), and that may be a better home for them.

    There is a reason these style of titles disappeared, players viewed them as ‘smoke and mirrors’ and the ended up being creative dead ends from a gameplay perspective.

    I’m watching Remedies efforts with Quantum Break to see how they tackle what looks to be a similar style.

    I can def see these titles becoming episodic and merging with shit TV shows though (especially on the Xbone), def not something I’m looking forward to though.

    #84 10 months ago
  85. sg1974

    Oh dear. Them’s some pretty disparate scores.

    I think I’ll wait a month or two and see what the average gamer like me thinks.

    #85 10 months ago
  86. Pitts

    @83- Most people make the mistake of playing Spec Ops to shoot things. I sure as heck did and I’m no shooter fan. Shooting is not the game’s strength. It’s decent in that regard, but it’s claim to fame in the end is how the game interacts with the player. And you really don’t discover that until about the end of the game. Totally worth it, imo.

    “I don’t begrudge it’s existence , but I’m not really keen for games containing actors like Dafoe trying to bridge the gap between the movie experience and video games. I think the only thing it achieves is diluting both mediums leaving neither one thing nor the other.”

    That is a great point.

    #86 10 months ago
  87. TheBlackHole

    This diversity of scores proves to me that hype still works, for journalists as much as consumers.

    It’s clearly a bang average game that some have marked through experience and others through what they expected it would get elsewhere.

    Amazing how many journalists don’t actually play the games they review. And believe me, I’ve been at companies where we’ve monitored it. Incredible.

    #87 10 months ago
  88. ddtd

    @86 You probably already know this, but for those that are still not sure about Spec Ops; I think that the devs of Spec Ops wanted people to see it initially as just a game where you shoot things. It’s one of those stories that starts in one place and totally ends up somewhere else, in a good and thought provoking way. Without giving anything away, the best way to describe the game is that it’s self aware, very meta, and challenges the ethics of the genre in a really clever way. My only slight is that the inclusion of a generic and pandering multiplayer mode sharply contrasts with the pretty deep themes the game brings up.

    #88 10 months ago
  89. lubu

    lol @ PSFanboys :)))))
    beyond: 3 – 4 – 6 – 9 – 5 = great game, i don’t care about scores (if not care why posting here ? lol)
    uncharted: 10 – 10 – 10 = look at those scores, the game is great just look at the scores, perfect :))
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    about textures: did you know “Erthazus” the things they used on models faces are called textures ? and they are some ultra high res textures in there ? textures in this game are mixed, just like the reviews. some places they used Ultra High Quality textures(faces & some enviorments)some-most places they used Ultra Low Quality-Last Gen textures (deserts,streets,buildings,some indoor evn, ETC ETC…)

    #89 10 months ago
  90. Ireland Michael

    Thanks for the thoughts on Spec Ops, everyone.

    I don’t know… does an average game with a decent story make it a better game? Should it be forgiven for being so average in its core mechanical aspect because of the fact?

    #90 10 months ago
  91. themadjock

    Rev3games 5/5

    #91 10 months ago
  92. fihar

    @90
    Isn’t that the point of games like Beyond, Heavy Rain, Spec Ops and The Walking Dead?
    Video games have evolved so much as a medium that the actual gameplay, the core mechanical aspect as you put it, is no longer always at the forefront.

    Whether you like it or not is beside the point, it is the state that we’re in now.

    #92 10 months ago
  93. Ireland Michael

    @92 I’m not saying that gameplay *has* to be at the forefront. But when a game is released where a certain type of gameplay exists, is it really justifiable to dismiss its average gameplay quality on the back of its story alone? Everyone seems more than willing to admit that the actual gameplay is not really Spec Op’s strong point.

    I’m not championing or dismissing either, honestly. My favourite games run the whole spectrum, from insanely gameplay focused (Bayonetta) to games complete remiss of traditional gameplay (The Walking Dead). I think its an interesting question.

    I just remembered that I received Spec Ops a while back on PlayStation Plus, so I guess now is as good a time as any to boot it up again, and try to give it another shot.

    #93 10 months ago
  94. fihar

    @93
    I should hope that the simple act of acknowledging that Spec Ops’ gameplay is average at best means that people aren’t actually dismissing the problem.
    I don’t think people are overlooking the problems within the game, they just thought that the pros simply outweighs the cons.

    If anything, I’ve come to accept that making an all-rounded game is impossible.
    What people want is a bug-free game with an open-ended design that tells a great story with excellent writing and meaningful narrative choices at a great pace coupled with great character performances that features some gameplay innovations and a multiplayer mode that isn’t just standard deathmatch.
    Not to mention with the best graphics and effects that is possible at the time and priced at $60.

    I don’t want to sound like I’m just settling but sometimes you have to accept the fact that some games are going to be a bit of a one-trick pony.

    #94 10 months ago