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Gaikai to stream PS3 games to PS4 in 2014, Yoshida confirms

Thursday, 19 September 2013 11:57 GMT By Dave Cook

PlayStation 4 is to offer Gaikai streaming of PS3 titles across North America in 2014, Sony Worldwide Studios president Shuhei Yoshida has confirmed.

IGN reports that in a post TGS key-note roundtable, Yoshida stated that a selection of streamed titles will be made available to North America at some point next year. That selection will grow over time.

Yoshida stressed that gamers will want a decent selection of games to browse through from the service’s launch, and confirmed that they will be playable via PS4, PS Vita and PS Vita TV. While the service will launch in North America in 2014, Yoshida was unable to comment on a European launch.

We recently heard that GaiKai’s European launch is now without a time-frame due to broadband concerns across the territory.

What do you make of the above?

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23 Comments

  1. pcbros

    My only problem with streaming games is that they tend to be a little blurry (you are essentially streaming video).

    But playing PS3 games on the Vita or VitaTV sounds good! I just hope our existing games are still tied to our PSN account and that we can somehow convert disc games to Gaikai games.

    #1 1 year ago
  2. Kieran

    I live in Ireland so yea the internet isint good so i can count gaikai out !! would downloading ps3 games onto your ps4 work ??

    #2 1 year ago
  3. AngryConsumer

    gaykai is crap, we did see how unplayable the ‘ OnLive Game Service’ have been. so to think that this will be the second coming in gaming is an overstatment. you can take this for an exsample… you connect to the gaykai with your connection. then stream from the gaykai servers to play on servers or others p2p connection for online gaming. if you havent seen hellish lag in ps3 cod/lbp or other games i can promise you will this time. it is gonna be so crappy and a huge smack on sonys jaw this one. because as long not everyone have a 100mbit connection it is gonna fail…. and the same goes for the xbones cloud bs crap, mark my words.

    #3 1 year ago
  4. stealth

    At what price? at what bandwith limit?

    sorry I will stick with ps3.

    #4 1 year ago
  5. DuckNation

    Id like for them to at least tell us a recommended DL/UP Speed for our ISP
    so then you can see what you really need

    #5 1 year ago
  6. DrDamn

    @2
    No it wouldn’t, this is essentially running the PS3 games on PS3-like servers and streaming the video to the PS4/PSV. It doesn’t mean PS4 will be backward compatible with PS3.

    #6 1 year ago
  7. MFBB

    Its fine if you have a good connection.

    You need a low latency.

    The games dont look as good as if you play them on your local consoles (its like a 720p video).

    #2 no you cant play PS3 games on PS4, only through Gakai as videostream.

    It would be cool if we can play PSP/PS Vita games on PS4 through Gakai.

    #7 1 year ago
  8. TheBlackHole

    Given that it will likely cost even if you’ve bought those games previously, I have absolutely NO interest in this.

    #8 1 year ago
  9. KesMonkey

    @2: “I live in Ireland so yea the internet isint good”
    Surely you meant to say “I live in the middle of nowhere in Ireland, so yea, the internet isn’t good”, because I too live in Ireland (Dublin) and have had an excellent high speed low latency broadband connection for many years, as has everyone I know who lives here.

    #9 1 year ago
  10. AngryConsumer

    @8 there will be an interest to play games like lbp1/lbp2,kz3 and cod games. these have the strongest user base for online gaming on the ps3. but with gaykai latency etc and washed out look on graphics. it will be no pleasant experience, that is for sure. the ‘OnLive Game Service’ that have been here for years earlier, gives a good indication on how its gonna be.

    #10 1 year ago
  11. VibraniumSpork

    Is it possible that the they’re looking to launch Gakai in the UK and other territories alongside the deals they mentioned at Gamescon with Broadband companies like Virgin and BT? Might not be a bad all round deal – pay £x and you get unlimited game streaming and the beefy connection needed to back it up. Hmmmm.

    #11 1 year ago
  12. rasmithuk

    @11 Your connection is only half the problem, the other is the distance their servers are from you.
    I have access to a reliable 80Mb connection and Gakai/OnLive would randomly change between fine or unplayable, even when everything else was running at full speed.

    The major issue is latency, and the only way of fixing that is to have lots of bandwidth in-between you and them, and to have their servers physically close.

    Getting enough hardware close enough to keep the latency down will take time and a lot of cash. They’ll get there, just not quickly.

    #12 1 year ago
  13. DrDamn

    @11
    Yeah I think so. Physical distance to server is big so embedding in the ISP’s is the way to go I think.

    #13 1 year ago
  14. fearmonkey

    If anyone actually got a chance to try Gaikai on a good connction, I think you would have been impressed. I have used both Onlive and Gaikai and Gaikai was way more impressive when actually playing a game.

    Onlive has a great interface but the games look blurry and look like they are set to low settings. I played multiple demos on Gaikai and it’s latency was much lower, the graphics looked a lot better, and it played very nice. If they can pull off what they did with PC demos on PS3 games, its going to be very cool.

    I hope they do demos on Gaikai with ads like it was on PC. On Gaikai’s website, you could click on any game and be immediately in it. It would be very cool to see an ad for a new demo for a PS4 game and click on that and immediately be able to play it without download.

    There are a lot of uses for Gaikai, not just PS3 titles. I hope to see PS1, PS2, demos, etc on there.

    #14 1 year ago
  15. VibraniumSpork

    @12 + @13

    So does DrDamn’s point possibly help solve rasmithuk’s conundrum? If Sony are working out deals with Virgin et al is it possible that this will lead to ‘closer’ servers, either physically or virtually?

    Sorry guys, I find this stuff fascinating but am pretty clueless about how it all works exactly (I assume it’s 60% magic).

    #15 1 year ago
  16. Arcnail

    Why can’t you just download the game? Why does it have to be streamed?

    Where are all the ‘always online’ gears that MS took for their console with this service?

    Eh.. sounds like a bunch of fail to me..

    #16 1 year ago
  17. G1GAHURTZ

    What’s all this NA focus from Sony, these days…?

    #17 1 year ago
  18. VibraniumSpork

    @16 They’re looking for (ironically, given the technical issues) ease of use on the consumer’s side. Like Uncharted 3 is on PS+ right now, but it’s around 38GB to download. For me that’d probably take around 48 hours straight downloading, plus my puny 80GB hard drive just cannot take the weight. Using Gakai you could just jump straight in.

    Plus, it’s gotta happen sooner or later. The consoles that follow PS4 and XB1 will have no disc trays and will most likely stream everything. They’ll also be able to project hard light holograms of Kate Upton into my living room. Hopefully.

    #18 1 year ago
  19. AngryConsumer

    @12 yeah your correct its all about latency, time and a lot of cash. they are now forcing the customers to pay for it with plaistationplus. most people that dont live in the city will not see any benefit for this at all. they are like milking cows for sony now. so they can start up their gaykai. its sad to see this happen really, they should have not forced people on plaistationplus, that is a big mistake.

    #19 1 year ago
  20. rasmithuk

    @17 Simple, they already have the infrastructure in place to do it as they brought Gaikai. Also in the US they can probably just do a deal with one hosting company and get space in machine rooms in most states, rather then in Europe where they’ll probably have to make 2-4 deals with different companies.

    @15 When it comes to latency they have to be physically close to get better numbers, nothing else really helps. That said, in the UK pretty much everywhere is close, since there’s so much fibre going around you’re never too far from a peering point.

    It’s going to come down to cost in the end. To get the most out of the servers you’re going to want to have them ‘close’ to as many people as possible, which means putting them in mainland Europe.

    Servers in the UK would be fine for us but we’re stuck out on the side of Europe which doesn’t help them to cover it cost effectively.
    It’ld make more sense to put a few in Ireland (as it’s cheaper over there, which is why Amazon and Microsoft have big DCs over there) and use those for caching content from the states, before pushing it out to the rest of Europe.
    For gameplay I’d put a load of servers in France to cover the west of Europe and another load in the Ukraine/Romaina to cover the west. Russia’s going to need it’s own.

    They’re going to have to invest a lot of time and money in an area before making it available so they’re probably going to go slowly to keep the risk down.

    #20 1 year ago
  21. pcbros

    My question is that if a PC (not even a high-end one) can emulate PS1, PS2 and PSP…. why can’t Sony do the same on a PS4? Surely you can emulate PS3 on a PS4.

    Gaikai is going to require a solid internet connection and even then, you will always have slight latency issues.

    I sure hope Gaikai is only for PS3 games and not PS1/PS2 games.

    #21 1 year ago
  22. rasmithuk

    @21 Emulating the lower/mobile device should be do-able on the PS4.
    As for the PS3, that’s a really nasty problem to solve.
    First off, simple emulation is out of the question, there just isn’t enough power in the machine to do it. Writing a JIT to cross-recompile the code from PPC to x86 would be your best bet.

    The 2 PPC cores wouldn’t be too much of a problem and they map quite nicely onto the x86 instructions set. While Jaguar is clocked slower, it’s an out-of-order system so it should be able to make up the difference with better pipelining.

    The SPEs however would be a nightmare as they’re pretty much running at full speed all the time (as they don’t touch main memory). I don’t think there’s enough L1 cache in Jaguar to ensure they don’t stall so you’ld need to have them running faster then on the PS3 just to match the performance, and that’s before you come up with a way to fake the DMA system the Cell used to shift data in and out of them.

    I’m not sure about the GPU. In some ways it could be easier since you’ve got a known API to convert, but on the other hand all the graphics and compute shaders would need converting.

    In short, if Microsoft came to me and asked me to do back-compat on the Xbox One it’ld be a big job but not too impossible. If Sony asked me to do the same I’d run a mile.

    I’m guessing what Sony will do for the PS3 is produce rack-mountable versions without the optical or hard drive, then just run the games on that.

    #22 1 year ago
  23. noamlol2

    THEN POST WHAT HE’S GOING TO STREAM

    fucking useless site…

    #23 1 year ago

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  • Infamous 2 one of five new PlayStation Now additions for March

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  • Final Fantasy 10/10-2 HD Remaster gets PS4 release date

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  • Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare getting 15 new Prestige levels

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  • Destiny: Crota’s End recreated in Minecraft

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  • Xenoblade Chronicles 3D trailer introduces the Heir to the Monado

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  • The Elder Scrolls: Total War mod covers Morrowind, Oblivion and more

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  • Five Nights at Freddy’s 3 out now on Steam

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  • EVE Online heister makes off with $13,000 worth of goods

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  • Marth Amiibo getting a stock refresh in North America

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  • Skyrim beta update upgrades creation kit file size

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  • Paradox’s next epic RPG is, uh, Knights of Pen & Paper 2

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  • Amplitude looks amazing in new gameplay trailer, has a team multiplayer mode

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  • DayZ creator’s “crazy”, “esoteric” next game developed with Improbable

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  • Battlefield Hardline will support AMD’s Mantle

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  • Unreal Engine 4 GDC 2015 sizzle reel shows what the tech can do

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  • Survarium’s latest patch removes limit on battle ammo, rebalances experience gain

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  • The Hunt Begins in new Bloodborne TV spot

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  • World of Warcraft: you’ll soon be able to buy game time with gold

    Blizzard will soon allow World of Warcraft players to exchange in-game gold for game time and vice versa. Blizzard has announced a new system that will launch soon for World of Warcraft. The system is called WoW Token. Using this system, players will be able to buy game time using in-game gold. Here’s how it […]

  • 3D Realms’ Bombshell returns with the first gameplay trailer

    Remember 3D Realms’ Bombshell? The isometric ARPG that was announced last year? Well, it’s back, and we get to see gameplay footage. The game stars Shelly “Bombshell” Harrison, a bomb technician turned mercenary with a mechanical arm. She will embark on a quest to rescue the president and save Earth, all while shooting aliens. The […]

  • Unreal Engine 4 is now free for everyone to use

    Epic Games has made Unreal Engine 4 available for anyone to download and use, for free. Unreal Engine 4 is now free. Anyone can download it and start using it, the developer announced today in a blog post. The download features the the full set of tools used by Epic, and includes 100% of the […]

  • Call of Duty European Championship winner announced

    The winner of the European round of the Call of Duty Championship has been announced. This past weekend, 28 teams representing UK, France, Germany, Spain, Italy, Netherlands, Sweden, Finland, the rest of Europe and Middle East attended the final of the European round of the Call of Duty Championship. UK team Epsilon eSports was crowned […]

  • GOG brings back Insomnia sale with discounts up to 90% off

    GOG.com is bringing back its Insomnia sale event with even more games. GOG’s Insomnia sale is back with double the amount of games. This year, there will be two sets of games available at once. The sets are seasoned classics and fresh new titles. Each set will feature games with discounts up to 90% off, […]

  • 2K is shutting down NBA 2K14 online servers, won’t affect career save files

    2K will be shutting down the servers for NBA 2K14 this month. The publisher revealed yesterday that online servers for NBA 2K14 will be turned offline on March 31. “You will no longer be able to play ranked games/online association,” reads the announcement. NBA 2K14 relied on online servers to store save files for MyCareer […]

  • One Dead or Alive tournament organiser is proposing ban of “over-sexualised” costumes

    A Dead or Alive tournament organiser has suggested a soft ban on some of the game’s “over-sexualised” costumes, and not everyone is happy. Tournament organiser “The HuBBs” took to the FreeStepDodge forums to suggest a list of rules that other offline tournaments can follow. The list goes over stages, characters, moves, which is certainly in […]

  • Destiny: all the news from Bungie’s open house Q&A

    Bungie hosted an open house Q&A session with the community last week and lots of exciting news have come out of it. Arekkz Gaming has gathered all the information that came out of Bungie’s open house Q&A in one handy video. The list is massive, going over Exotic weapon balance, upcoming events, PVE, Crucible rewards, […]

  • Elite: Dangerous and Star Citizen to honour Nimoy with in-game memorials

    Developers behind space exploration games Elite: Dangerous and Star Citizen will honour the memory of Leonard Nimoy through in-game memorials. The develops of both games have confirmed separately that in-game memorials will be established to honour the memory of the late Star Trek actor, Leonard Nimoy, famous for playing Spock. Elite: Dangerous executive producer Michael […]

  • Deal: get a PlayStation 4 + three exclusives for $399

    Amazon’s latest PlayStation 4 deal is not one to miss. With purchase of a PlayStation 4 console from Amazon in the US, the online retailer will throw in digital codes for Infamous Second Son, Killzone Shadow Fall and The Last of Us: Remastered, all for the same MSRP of $399. The Last of Us Remastered […]

  • Destiny: this is how one player predicted House of Wolves details and Xur’s inventory

    The method one Redditor possibly used to leak some details from Destiny’s House of Wolves was the same one he used to predict the inventory of Xur: Agent of the Nine. Last week, Reddit user Megamanexe4 leaked a few pieces of House of Wolves expansion content. The leaks included strikes, new Crucible mode, and a […]

  • Mortal Kombat X is coming to iOS… as a card-battler

    Mortal Kombat X will be releasing on mobile devices in some form, just not the one you except. Mortal Kombat X is coming to Android and iOS devices as an extension of the main game. It will launch in April alongside the console versions. The mobile game will be part card collecting and part fighting […]

  • Metal Gear Solid 5: The Phantom Pain announcement coming this Wednesday

    Kojima Productions will unveil something about Metal Gear Solid 5: The Phantom Pain this Wednesday. Metal Gear Solid fans should standby for a Phantom Pain-related announcement on Wednesday, March 4. According to developer Kojima Productions’ Twitter, there’s going to be an announcement at 2pm GMT on Wednesday. The developer posted the following image. The image […]

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    We’d really appreciate it if you could fill in this survey about the websites you read and the games you buy. It massively helps! You can fill out the survey right here and obviously all the information you supply is confidential. It helps us build a better picture of the people who read our site […]

  • Battlefield Hardline Premium: here’s everything you get for $50

    Battlefield Hardline’s Premium membership will give players access to 4 new features, early access to expansion packs and more. EA detailed the offer today – it costs $50 in total (£40 in the UK) and gives players a whole bundle of new gear and content. Check it all out in handy list form below: Masks […]

  • Hayter’s gonna hate: the voice of Solid Snake wouldn’t answer my Metal Gear question

    Voice actor and Hollywood writer David Hayter discusses the differences between movies and games. And politely declines my leading question. “It might be fun to do a crazy, over-the-top film version of Saint’s Row.” Yeah, that headline is a bit cheap but you’re reading the work of a man who once asked the maker of […]

  • Xbox One bundle gets £100 price cut in UK

    Microsoft has knocked up to £100 off Xbox One bundles in the UK. The Xbox One with Kinect Assassin’s Creed bundle is now £100 cheaper and comes with a free £20 voucher to be spent on the official Microsoft online store. Over on the Xbox online store there’s a £70 price cut on the white […]

  • Pokemon Shuffle downloaded 1m times, free stuff given out to celebrate

    Free-to-play 3DS title Pokemon Shuffle has been downloaded over 1 million times. As a reward for playing the match-3 puzzle game Nintendo has gifted players a Complexity -1 item for free. The item reduces the difficulty of a level, according to Eurogamer. By all accounts Pokemon Shuffle is a cynical game with poorly implemented microtransactions. […]