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Microsoft responds to Xbox 720 ‘always-on’ net connection rumour

Thursday, 7 February 2013 12:30 GMT By Dave Cook

Xbox 720 is rumoured to require a constant internet connection to verify games and to block both pre-owned and piracy – see our report on the rumour here. Microsoft has today responded to the claim.

Microsoft passed a note to OXM that read, “The manufacturer has responded to our mails. “Microsoft does not comment on rumours or speculation. We are always thinking about what is next for our platform, but we don’t have anything further to share at this time.”

So that’s not exactly a no, is it? Our own sources have verified this as true. Read what they had to say here.

Meanwhile Sony’s PS4 is rumoured to include NFC tech to bind game discs to one console. It seems that both parties want to crush pre-owned game sales under their mighty boots.

What do you think?

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31 Comments

  1. FinalStar

    I think that this sort of non-news isn’t worth reporting, but hey, anything for a click. What happened to the high standards, or does that only count for (against) booth babes?

    #1 2 years ago
  2. Hcw87

    This is allways their standard answer when someone asks them about their supposed next system.

    #2 2 years ago
  3. SameeR_Fisher

    They will both get fucked if they do so, for real, you see Piracy isn’t going away, and they are shooting themselves in the foot.

    For one gamers will buy nothing that gets a rating less than 9, I used to get games that were rated 6 back in the PS2 era, now I am more between 8 to 10, if next gen blocks the used games, then it will be 9 only games.

    2nd hackers will find a way to pirate the system, it WILL happen, and I will go with it if they block the used games, cause this is stupid, I don’t have the money to buy 3 games a month, sometimes my friend buy a game and I buy another, then we exchange them, and they want to block that ?!, No thanks, FUCK you.

    What if 2 brothers have 2 consoles, they need to buy the game twice ?!, Where the fuck is the logic in that !!!.

    Game stores will be affected so much with such move as well.

    I am sure for the language, but the whole thing about blocking used games is getting on my nerves.

    #3 2 years ago
  4. Moonwalker1982

    @2

    Exactly. It’s the exact same. So honestly….not worth it to report imo.

    #4 2 years ago
  5. Karooo

    Haha.

    #5 2 years ago
  6. Erthazus

    Always DRM is just horrible for a console.

    #6 2 years ago
  7. Gnosis

    Well, no answer is still an answer. It’s not that kind of rumor you can simply ignore and MS not trying to deny it sounds to me like they’re AT LEAST considering it as an option. If not more.

    #7 2 years ago
  8. Moonwalker1982

    @6

    I don’t mind always being online, cause when i go gaming on my 360 i always want to be online too. But it’s going to suck bigtime when your internet provider is having problems and you can’t use the console. That would be pathetic.

    #8 2 years ago
  9. Fin

    This really doesn’t need its own story. An update to the original at the most.

    At the least, the headline should include the words “no comment”.

    #9 2 years ago
  10. MadFlavour

    They can go and fuck themselves.

    #10 2 years ago
  11. orakaa

    Well, even if we’re still on the phase of rumors, they didn’t say no, indeed. Which MIGHT mean they are considering it or that they will put it on Xbox720.

    If it was out of question, they would have said it: it would have made them “shine” a bit, or at least calm minds until they make a full announcement. Look at what happened at Gamestop’s stock value after this rumors arrived. A “no” would have calmed the markets (at least for their partners).

    It’s really sad to see console brands have so little care for the ones that helped them and brought them where they are today. At a point when video games were not mainstream yet, if there hadn’t been specialized shops, the media wouldn’t have grown that much. Same goes for gamers.

    The worst part is that they will present this feature as something that benefits the gamer… but how and where does the gamer benefit from restrained access to their games?

    #11 2 years ago
  12. hives

    If both consoles will have that… I’ll just upgrade my PC and I’ll borrow a console from one of my non-PC gamer friends when some fine exclusives will be released….

    #12 2 years ago
  13. DeyDoDoughDontDeyDough

    This is what Microsoft says to literally anything you ask them if the answer is something you don’t want to talk about. Word for word.

    You could ask them what flavour ice-cream they prefer and you’ll get the same answer. Word for word.

    This is not news.

    Seriously: Google that whole reply.

    #13 2 years ago
  14. karma

    If this rumour does indeed turn out to be true, not only will I not buy either the Mirco$oft or $ony next gen consoles, but I will go out of my way to bad mouth them at every possible opportunity. And the reason is because I’m a 360 gamer who can barely afford to game as it is in this shitty economy, and these types of limitations will force me out of AAA gaming completely. Such an arsehole thing to do to gamers like me who have been gaming for more than 30 years and have given the best part of everything we have ever earned to game companies like MS, Sony and Ninty, and this is how two of the top companies repay us for putting them where they are now? Well FUCK those money grubbing arsholes!

    #14 2 years ago
  15. orakaa

    @14: well said, sir :)

    #15 2 years ago
  16. Myth

    I’m fine with it, like stated in the other thread.

    Used game sales is a parasite that doesn’t benefit the content creators at all, and therefore increases the prices of new games and drives down the number of new games being developed.

    If we are to have the ability to trade games, we need to be able to do it in a way that benefits the people who create them – not just the store where you do the trading.

    (always on DRM seems unlikely, we’ll get an authentication demand instead – I think we’ll be fairly close to the Steam-model on consoles)

    #16 2 years ago
  17. G1GAHURTZ

    Yeah, well, you all moaned about Diablo 3, but you still bought it, didn’t ya!?

    #17 2 years ago
  18. Judicas

    Gamestop publicly said months ago if ps4/x720 had something preventing pre-owned games they wouldn’t stock any system that does this. Microsoft/Sony’s console sales would go down considerably I would imagine if this was indeed true, and some other retailers who dabble in pre-owned sales might not stock the systems either.

    #18 2 years ago
  19. DrDamn

    @18
    Who relies on who more though? Brick and mortar retail is dying for lots of reasons. Can they really afford to take that sort of stance? What are they going to sell instead?

    #19 2 years ago
  20. orakaa

    @16: this is the same kind of analyst bullsh*t I kept reading when I was working in strategy consulting companies years ago.

    Many people don’t have that much money and sell their used games to finance their future purchases. It’s the same mechanism as old cars being sold to buy new ones. I can assure you that if it wasn’t possible to sell old cars anymore, constructors would really see lower sales.

    This is greed, nothing more. You can’t expect to prevent second hand game markets AND keep people buying the same amount of games. People DON’T have this money. If this system happen, sales will drop, primarily because people won’t have the money to buy as much games as before, and in 5 years from now analysts will blame poor sales on smartphones/tablets/whatever but won’t acknowledge the fact that they will have scr*wed this up themselves

    #20 2 years ago
  21. OlderGamer

    Walmart would love to use the advert: Exclusivly at Walmart. Gamestop honestly doesn’t matter as much as you might think. Not to the average everyday person, and collectivly, they far out number the core gamers.

    #21 2 years ago
  22. DrDamn

    @21
    Agree. What Gamestop offers over the Walmart etc is meant to be a decent selection and “knowledgeable” staff. The staff aren’t so knowledgeable and if they are anything like Game the selection has been tailing off for years. Online retail is covering that off too.

    #22 2 years ago
  23. Old MacDonald

    Hey, VG247 & Dave Cook: I have a problem with this article.

    The problem is not that you’re reporting on non-news. That’s fair enough.

    The problem is that you’re reporting on non-news in a way that makes it seem like you have some actual news to show us.

    With your headline and teaser text, you are giving the impression that they have addressed the rumours.

    You know full well that this is Microsoft’s standard reply. And, as it explicitly states, they have NOT responded to the rumour in question.

    You’re essentially tricking us into clicking the link. That kind of tactics is not appreciated, and it will come back to bite you.

    #23 2 years ago
  24. Clupula

    Not to mention, many places, like New York City, have managed to keep Wal-Mart out of our lives. No 720′s in Gamestop means that no one in a city of 11,000,000 will be able to buy the system unless we go out to Long Island or upstate or order through the mail.

    How many people do you think will be willing to do that? Some, yeah, but they’d be costing themselves thousands of sales.

    #24 2 years ago
  25. TheBlackHole

    Firstly, it’s not always on, it’s for activation. Secondly, this is a natural process between boxed product and digital download.

    Do you still expect to be able to sell or trade the game you download from xbox live? Steam? The iStore? No.

    The only difference between a digital product bought online and a digital product bought on disc is the method of delivery. Why should the actual content (or its use) be any different?

    #25 2 years ago
  26. ps4some

    @20 Well said sir ! If this happens I’ll be buying about 3 games a year rather than the 20 or so I get through now. Hey publishers ! All those second hand game sales aren’t going to turn into new game purchases. They’re just going to vanish along with some new game purchases too and you’ll also have less people to sell dlc to.

    #26 2 years ago
  27. Eyelekin

    Always on DRM, barring pre-owned games, 2011 technology…

    I had been considering picking up a new console for the same reasons as the old gen; chilling on the sofa with a few mates who brought some games (and beer) round.

    With wireless HDMI and a plethora of hardware coming out that brings your PCs computing and gfx power to your big TV with proper controllers, I really see no reason to shell out £500+ one one of these. MS really need to pull something big out of the hat in the next 6 months, and I don’t mean a new version of Xbox Live or social media integration. Nobody’s going to buy a next-gen console for sharing angry birds scores with their aunt.

    #27 2 years ago
  28. Kelsjb85

    I really don’t care i’m use to it because i play pc time to time and it’s the same thing. I have all the consoles, but never bought used games not to say there is anything wrong with it i just never did. This is still a rumor until ms and sony confirm all this.

    #28 2 years ago
  29. Cobra951

    @25: You have it exactly backward. Boxed products have been around forever, and they carry with them certain expectations, one of them being well covered by the doctrine of first sale. You should be able to sell your used games, just like any other product. Digital distribution is a new paradigm entirely. Why should physical media suddenly get slapped with its limitations? If anything, digitally distributed products need a way into the used marketplace, and some countries have ruled legally to that effect.

    #29 2 years ago
  30. Keivz

    Lots of comments and an interesting topic but I have to agree with posters 1, 2 ,23, et. al. I find this article’s title very misleading. Anyone who knows anything about Microsoft’s policy on commenting on rumors is ‘we don’t comment on rumors’. So for them to do otherwise, as the headline suggests, is HUGE news. Come to find out it was just a dirty trick. I’ve seen similar tactics here before but this is just low. For shame.

    #30 2 years ago
  31. PCFreak

    What we will do with the new xbox console after Zombie Apocalypse there will be no internet after that.and this mean no fun.think about it.

    ____________________
    Call of Duty Modern Warfare

    #31 2 years ago

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    Hopefully, you pre-ordered the Metal Gear Solid 5: The Phantom Pain Collector’s Edition in the UK already. If not, you are likely out of luck. According to GAME, the pack which contains the Half Scale Replica of Snake’s Bionic Arm has sold out in the UK. The retailer confirmed the news to Videogamer this morning. […]

  • Far Cry 4 Complete Edition coming June 19 for PC, PS4 to the UK

    A Far Cry 4 Complete Edition has been announced and it includes the full game as well as the Season Pass. This is the sku which popped up on Amazon Germany earlier in the week. The Season Pass provides access to five separate pieces of DLC. Here’s a refresher on the DLC content: The Syringe: […]

  • The Witcher 3: live Q&A stream with CDP, new monster dev diary inside

    The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt is out in just two weeks, and if you want to know more about Geralt’s latest adventure, CD Projekt is hosting a live Q&A now on Twitch. There’s also a new developer diary below which focuses on monster in the game. The Witcher 3 is out on May 19. Huzzah! […]

  • Forza Horizon 2′s Alpinestars Car Pack has five cars and is ready for download

    The Alpinestars Car Pack for Forza Horizon 2 is out now on Xbox One and its the only way you will ever be able to afford a 1992 Bugatti EB110 Super Sport. Unless, of course, you win the lottery or are left in some rich person’s will. In that case, I’ll take the ’53 Corvette, […]

  • Shadow of Mordor – Game of the Year Edition is now available in North America

    Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor – Game of the Year Edition has been released in North America. It will be made available in the Europe on May 7 and in the UK May 8 for £49.99 on consoles and £34.99 on PC. As previously announced, this edition contains all previously released DLC content as well as […]

  • Two GAME exclusive versions of Halo 5: Guardians now available for pre-order

    GAME has announced two exclusive versions of Halo 5: Guardians, and both are now available for pre-order exclusively through one of the retail chain’s 318 stores or online. The £79.99 Limited Edition Halo 5: Guardians, which delivers new digital content wrapped in a steel book. There’s also the £199.99 Halo 5: Guardians Limited Collector’s Edition […]

  • Deals with Gold: Far Cry 4, Assassin’s Creed Unity, Bioshock Infinite, more

    Microsoft has announced its latest Deals with Gold discounts for Xbox Live Gold members. Franchises on sale include Far Cry, Call of Duty, along with individual titles Assassin’s Creed Unity and Bioshock Infinite. The full list is below. Bioshock Infinite discounts are available for both Xbox Live Gold and Silver members. Xbox One Far Cry […]

  • Wolfenstein: The Old Blood has released, watch the launch trailer here

    Wolfenstein: The Old Blood has launched on PC, PlayStation 4 and Xbox One. You can watch the launch trailer for it below. Boxed copies in Europe arrive from May 15, and in Australia/New Zealand on May 14. You can grab digital copies from the following online services: Steam, PlayStation Network, Xbox Store.

  • GOG’s online service GOG Galaxy is now in open beta

    GOG Galaxy, the DRM-free online gaming platform from the folks at GOG, has left Alpha and is now in open beta for all to try. As previously announced, the online service, similar to Steam, is option. Players do not need to play online as all games are stored by the service and can be played […]

  • DayZ-inspired Goat Simulator DLC GoatZ is out this week on Steam

    Goat Simulator players can download DayZ-inspired DLC this week called GoatZ. According to Coffee Stain Studios, GoatZ is “the only survival game on Steam that isn’t in Early Access.” Jokingly of course. The DLC features: Mandatory crafting system because everyone else is doing it. Zombies that bug out. There’s a pun here about actual living […]

  • No, Far Cry 4 is not currently free on PSN

    You may have seen a few Tweets from people saying that the PS4 version of Far Cry 4 is available to download from PSN for free. This is not true. A few readers have tipped us off to what looked like a glitch on PSN that allowed players to download the full version of Far […]

  • Metal Gear Solid: The 1984 Collection confirmed to be a clothing line

    Konami is teasing a Metal Gear Solid thing called “The 1984 Collection.” The Metal Gear Solid Facebook page posted this image about an hour ago: The caption reads, “Step back into the 80′s with our new MGS collection coming very soon! Stay tuned!” This is supposedly in reference to the clothing line that was announced […]

  • Portal, The Simpsons, Jurassic World & Scooby Doo packs listed for Lego Dimensions

    Lego Dimensions is likely getting a few unannounced content packs. One of which is themed around Valve’s Portal. A set of unannounced content packs for the upcoming Lego Dimensions have been revealed by US retailer Walmart. The listings include packs for The Simpsons, Scooby Doo and Jurassic World, and most interestingly, Portal. The listings have […]

  • This is the most authentic recreation of GTA 2 in real life ever

    Affordable drones have many uses. Most of them are not nearly as exciting as recreating GTA 2 in real life. I am surprised it took us this long, but someone has finally captured footage using a drone that resembles the protagonist’s experience in the classic GTA 2. These aren’t just shots of cars from a […]

  • PlayStation 4 sales reach 2m in the UK

    Sony has sold 2 million PlayStation 4 consoles in the UK, faster than it did with the PlayStation 2 – the company’s best-selling machine in the country. MCVUK is reporting that as of last weekend, 2 million PlayStation 4s have been sold in the UK. The data is based on GfK Chart-Track estimates. This makes […]

  • H1Z1 gets female characters, skin colour options planned

    In an effort to improve diversity in the game, H1Z1 developer has added female characters. Female survivors can now be found throughout the world of H1Z1. Developer Daybreak added the new feature in a patch released last Friday. You will be able to choose a female avatar in the main game and in Battle Royale. […]

  • Possible teaser site for Castlevania creator Koji “IGA” Igarashi’s new game opens

    Either Castlevania creator Koji “IGA” Igarashi is working on a soon-to-be-launched Kickstarter for his new game, or someone is pulling an elaborate prank. At PAX Prime last year, during Keiji Inafune’s Mighty No. 9 panel, a flyer was handed out to attendees that showed what appeared to be a 2D game of some sort with […]

  • Destiny weekly reset for May 5: Heroic and Nightfall strikes detailed

    Tuesday is here and Destiny’s weekly reset is also here. Bungie announced that your weekly Destiny grind has now begun. The Nightfall and Heroic strikes are now live too. This week’s strike is Winter’s Run. Rainbow burn is back for the Nightfall, which means you do more damage with all elemental weapons, but also receive […]

  • PC version of Project Cars delayed in Australia due to severe weather

    Recent weather conditions in Sydney, Australia are responsible for a slight delay of the PC version of Project Cars in the country. Sydney recently suffered from storms that caused flooding in some areas. One of those is the place where publisher Namco Bandai was storing PC copies of Project Cars. The stock was “severely damaged,” […]

  • Twitch’s new process makes it easier for streamers to appeal flagged content

    Twitch has updated its appeals process concerning videos that have been flagged by the audio ID system. Towards the end of last year, Twitch introduced a new audio recognition system that scans archived streams and automatically mutes the audio whenever copyright music is identified. The system has been in-use ever since and Twitch has today […]

  • The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt has a day one patch, but it’s not a major one

    The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt will indeed have a day one patch, to make the first-time experience as smooth as possible. Like many modern games, The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt will have its day one patch. According to the developer however, it wasn’t born out of necessity. Miles Tost, level designer at developer CD Projekt […]

  • CoD: Advanced Warfare owners get free pistol today

    Advanced Warfare developer Sledgehammer Games is adding a new pistol to the game, free to all players. The M1 Irons is a new pistol that comes to Advanced Warfare starting today. The weapon is offered as a thank you gift from the developer. Sledgehammer says the Irons is good at range and packs a punch. […]

  • Fall down the Skullgirls Big Band music video rabbit hole with me

    Skullgirls is a pretty amazing fighting game, but did you know it’s also a passable music creation suite? Earlier today I was idly perusing an episode of PlayStation Underground showing off Skullgirls 2nd Encore, a re-release of the indie fighter packing in loads of new features and coming to PS4 – with full cross-play! – […]

  • The many uses of Wolfenstein: The Old Blood’s pipe weapon

    Wolfenstein: The Old Blood adds a sick new weapon to BJ’s arsenal: a pipe. In Wolfenstein: The Old Blood, a pipe is not just a pipe. Not only can you bash nazis with it, you can use it to climb walls, reach hatches, and even break through some walls. Plus? You can dual wield it. […]

  • Mortal Kombat X teaser gives first look at Predator

    Mortal Kombat X’s next celebrity guest was teased during the latest Kast. Today’s Mortal Kombat X Kast was mostly about all about Jason, but also included a very brief nod to Predator. You can watch the full livestream to see the tease in situ if you’re really keen, but IGN shared this convenient edit: There’s […]

  • Rock Band 4 has count-ins, drum fills and vocal harmonies

    Rock Band 4 will more closely emulate the feeling of being a real musician with some neat personalisation touches. For Rock Band 4, Harmonix elected to double down on player ownership of their experience rather than technical precision. To this end, it has implemented a number of cool new features. I am wildly envious of […]

  • Yaiba: Ninja Gaiden Z, Lost Planet 3 developer shuttered

    Spark Unlimited has gone down with all hands. The Yaiba: Ninja Gaiden Z and Lost Planet 3 developer has been shuttered and all staff laid off. Chief technical officer John Butrovich confirmed the news in a statement issued to IGN. “Spark Unlimited is closing as a video game developer. The ongoing opportunities for smaller mobile […]

  • PS Now subscription available on PlayStation 3 this month, Vita coming soon

    PlayStation Now’s all you can eat service has finally been dated for PS3. Subscriptions to PS Now, Sony’s cloud-based gaming service, will be available on PS3 from May 12 in the US. The all you can eat package will also be made available on select Bravia TVs and Sony Blu-ray players on the same date. […]

  • GTA 5 is even better with a gravity gun

    GTA 5 modders have made a dream come true, adding a gravity gun to your arsenal of mayhem-causing weaponry. GTA 5 isn’t ready for this. It looks like a heck of a lot of fun, but the poor old Los Santos po po can’t deal with the resulting carnage at all. If Rockstar were ever […]

  • “Mod makers should be able to make money from their creations,” says DOOM creator

    DOOM co-creator John Romero has weighed in on the paid mods debate. Paid mods are a hot issue right now. For years, Valve has been enabling content creators to make money from their work on Counter-strike: Global offensive, Dota 2 and Team Fortress 2, but when it partnered with Bethesda to offer the same for […]

  • Watch WRC driver Kevin Abbring smash through a DIRT Rally challenge

    WRC driver Kevin Abbring has been participating in Dirt Rally’s daily events – and kicking ass. Dirt Rally seems to have ticked one of the most difficult to attain boxes of racing development – creating something professional drivers like to play, and which rewards their years of experience. Codemasters published the video below showing Hyundai […]

  • Mortal Kombat X patch to bring PC version up to console standard

    Mortal Kombat X PC will be fixed tomorrow, NetherRealm has promised. The PC version of Mortal Kombat X has come under fire for poor performance, including stuttering frame rate and bugs as plenty. About 45 minutes into a recent Twitch stream, NetherRealm boss Ed Boon said an update will drop tomorrow to address many of […]

  • Destiny House of Wolves: all new Crucible maps detailed

    Destiny’s House of Wolves DLC will add four new maps to the Crucible, the game’s competitive multiplayer mode. Let’s take a look at all of them. Alex brings you new footage showing all of the four maps that will drop with House of Wolves. He goes over the layout, landmarks, gameplay styles, and other important […]

  • Custom Xbox One Star Wars controllers look very tempting

    Microsoft is celebrating May 4 by showing off concept designs for Star Wars-themed Xbox One controllers. May 4 is of course Star Wars Day and the controller concepts you’re about to see are just that, concepts. Or at least that’s what they said they are. There are four designs and they don’t look very practical. […]

  • Project Cars launch trailer is an anthology of race cars, set to the beats of Deadmau5

    Project Cars comes out this week and there’s just enough time for one last trailer. Project Cars, Slightly Mad Studios’ ambitious racer that has been in development for ages, is finally coming out this week. The racer received plenty of changes throughout its development based on community feedback and the final product will be in […]

  • Star Wars Battlefront dev reveals planet Sullust

    Sullust, a planet that has not been previously shown, will be featured in one of Star Wars Battlefront’s maps. Star Wars Battlefront developer DICE revealed today that planet Sullust will be one of the game’s locations. The planet was mentioned in the films and other Star Wars works, but was only shown today. DICE posted […]

  • Destiny House of Wolves: Tower vendor changes

    House of Wolves will change the inventory of some of Destiny’s vendors and add new roles to others. Here’s everything that has been announced so far. You know that House of Wolves will bring a new social space to the game in the form of The Reef. But did you also know that the good […]

  • Nintendo apologises for Amiibo shortages, will reissue some out-of-stock figures

    Nintendo released a statement today to apologise for fan’s frustrations in finding some Amiibo figures and promised to handle distribution better going forward. Nintendo has been criticised recently for its lack of communication when it comes to new Amiibo figures. Something which has lead fans to not know if certain figures are limited to some […]

  • Halo: MCC “a black eye for us,” Halo 5 won’t suffer the same fate, says franchise director

    The development of Halo: The Master Chief Collection was of an “outrageous complexity,” which was one of the reasons it suffered a horrible launch. None of that will happen with Halo 5: Guardians, according to Frank O’Connor. Frank O’Connor, Halo franchise development director opened up to Xbox Achievements about the difficult task of developing The […]

  • Destiny House of Wolves: weapon Reforging explained

    When House of Wolves drops in a couple of weeks, you’ll be able to change the stats of some in-game weapons. This process is called ‘Reforging’. Alex goes over all the details Bungie revealed about the new Reforging system. This covers the materials you need, the weapons that can be reforged and much more. Make […]

  • GTA 5 PC: control the in-game phone with your iPhone using this mod

    GTA 5′s latest mod lets you control the in-game phone with your real-life iPhone. Reddit user Planetleak wanted to see if he would succeed in getting his iPhone to control the phone in GTA 5. He did it and has a video to prove it. It’s not a mod per-se, but it emulates mouse and […]