Vita “having a more difficult time” securing publisher support, says Yoshida

Hey Sony. You secured the people who desperately wanted your device. Go ahead and drop the price by 25-50 bucks compete directly with your competitors and let the developers roll in. Although I’m sure your waiting till after CoD and Assassins creed drops you might as well just take the leap

A price drop before holiday season would be great.

I bought my 1st PS2 in 2003; I bought my first PSP in 2008; I bought my PS3 in 2010. I always waited until a lot of interesting and treffic games have been on a console.

So for Vita, maybe never. I’ve really regretted buying 2 PSP just for T3B.

PSP did very well in Japan because of the support of Japanese publishers. But did well in Western but got worse and worse because of lack of games.

Vita? Any support from 3rd party publishers? Maybe SONY has not been yet ready for launching Vita as it’s totally crap which i mean the sales of SONY group.

Man, I could have swore that last year, there were tons of games on the way. I mean everything was perfect, the price was good, the games looked great, and the system itself proved to be amazing. What happened?

@4, “What happened?”

they forgot to secure device with games after Launch Day.

Yeah, launch line-up was super awesome and device is still really good but times go forward and device is getting old with no games. Not even enough ports…

I still have mine to this day as a piece of garbage already. No one wants to buy my Portstation Vita, but I still wait for games on it.

@1
Yep agree. A price drop to increase user base would be a lot of help. That’s going to be a big consideration for third party support – how big is my market.

One point I found really interesting …
“Yoshida sees strong potential for the handheld as a pltform for “smaller, independent developers”.”

More of this please. I like that it can do bigger games for when I can’t get to a TV console but this is an area it could really excel in. We are already seeing some great smaller games like Snapshot and Sound Shapes coming through. Plus this yesterday …

http://www.vg247.com/2012/08/09/really-big-sky-publisher-bringing-three-free-games-to-eu-ps-plus-members/

If Vita lives through these sort of games rather than the big blockbusters I’d be happy with that. Sony may not be but I would .

“Because of the growth of the social/mobile sector, lots of opportunities are being presented to publishers to choose from, and because the social/mobile side is the growing sector in terms of the business now, they are very quickly shifting their development resources to be part of that growing market,” he said.

Yeah that’s why Nintendo is also struggeling to sell their Handheld with no support from Capcom, Konami or … oh wait!

Typical Sony. Typical outdated biz model. Let me explain:

Sony has been putting together fantastic pieces of hardware. Lots of advanced tech(compared to their competition), lots of great features. System that should impress and please gamers. I am talking about PS3 and Vita. But the problem is that because of all the uberness of the hardware, Sony keeps missing the mass market price points.

Both PS3 and Vita have over priced launches. Please Sony figure this out before you do the samething with PS4.

The outdated biz model is in relying too much on 3rd parties to provide your support and games. If no one put out a single 3DS game besides Nintendo, the system would still sell. And because 3DS can sell on its own, 3rd parties understand that the platform will be such where as releasing their own games makes a lot of sense.

I fully believe that in order to support a platform and make the platform atractive to 3rd parties, you must be able to support your platform w/o their help if need be. I point to the Wii as an example. We all know that most of the big name pubs didn’t focus on it, and yet it the system and its (nintendo 1st party games) sold so well they set records.

At this point, certianly the Vita has lost any momentum it may have had. A price cut is vital to moving units. The price cut has to bring Vita down to 150usd-200usd. And the 200usd sku should include a game. But even if it starts to sell, I wonder if 3rd parties will come back if they have already decided to leave. I think Sony needs to prove that they can sustain sales momentium.

Time will tell.

There’s nothing ‘advanced’, ‘fantastic’ or having ‘great features’ in any of their consoles, when compared to ‘competition’. Regardless of PS Lifestyle.

If anything, their business model is better now.

Stop DM. The difference between me and you is that, even if I don’t use something, I know quality when I see it. All your going to do bash and troll. If you hate Sony, fine, move along.

I don’t own a Vita, but I know the system is a high quality system. I have played around with one a bit, it is truely a nice piece of hardware. Better, imo, then 3DS. But when I get ready to buy a handhaeld, I will prolly buy a 3DS. That doesn’t mean I can’t see Vita for what it is.

PS3 when it launched, fully featured, was an amazing system. It just wasn’t worth the 600usd plus I paid for mine at the time.

Drop the price, shove your own recognized franchises on it, somehow force PS2 games on there & make the third parties interested.

@8
Agree with most of that. I think they have got a very good model for games in place with the Vita though, just not the console sales to back it up. Lots of price points and options for publishers, the kit is very easy and quick to develop for and there are some great cross platform opportunities to exploit. Needs more units sold and that equals a sizeable price drop.

Nothing whatsoever to do with price points or business models.

It’s basically a home console that you hold in your hands.

The only problem with that is that you need a dev team big enough to make a home console game.

Why is anyone going to spend $10m developing a Vita game, when they can make an iOS/Android game at a fraction of that cost, with a only a handful of people and potentially make bigger profits?

It’s about dev costs… He clearly explained this:

“Because of the growth of the social/mobile sector, lots of opportunities are being presented to publishers to choose from, and because the social/mobile side is the growing sector in terms of the business now, they are very quickly shifting their development resources to be part of that growing market,“

@8
“But even if it starts to sell, I wonder if 3rd parties will come back if they have already decided to leave.”

They will go where the units are and where they feel they can sell best into the available units. The second part works against Nintendo in part because why would third parties develop for a huge user base if that user base is already buying a load of Nintendo product.

Old man, you used words which usually imply techy advantages or some kind of superior power.

I corrected you.

No, the diff between us is that you like to ramble. Do make up your mind. Quality has nothing to do with being advanced or powerful.

@13
“It’s basically a home console that you hold in your hands.”

It’s home console controls on a console you hold in your hands.

“The only problem with that is that you need a dev team big enough to make a home console game.”

No you don’t, some of the biggest successes on the Vita are the smaller titles. As mentioned above, lots of opportunities to put out a game at a price which matches the development costs. Much easier to develop for than previous Sony consoles too.

I’m sure what you’re saying is exactly what Sony reps are hitting the publishers with, DD, but like he said…

They’re more interested in mobile and social media.

How does that stack up against Nintendos 3DS dev costs? I am guessing Vita(for big name games) is much higher. And then you have to say that Sony misjudged the market, dev costs and hardware costs are reflected in retail price points.

Imo, Sony made a better system then they had to make. And because of that their retail price is beyond what most folks are willing to pay. Tech doesn’t win hardware races and often times over shoots mass market price points. Sony did it twice first PS3, then Vita.

My point about being able to sustain yourself with your own software is extremly valid. I think the days of putting out hardware and relying on liscencing to 3rd parties is over. You have to be able to move your own hardware. that is done with an affordable price and a quality line up of your own, exclusive games. Those two things combined will move units, and moving units is what atracts 3rd parties(provided dev costs are reasonable and feesible).

I think it especialy true in the handheld space.

Consoles are a slightly different animal, but not too much. But if your the thrid system out(like Wii) your not going to get a lot of the same multiplat games that the other two will get. But in handheld space…

@17
Sure I agree – but they are trying to address this with dev costs and price points – it’s just without volumes they will struggle. That said a good title has the potential to stand out more on Vita than the sea that is mobile.

@18
“How does that stack up against Nintendos 3DS dev costs? I am guessing Vita is much higher. And then you have to say that Sony misjudged the market, dev costs and hardware costs are reflected in retail price points.”

You mean cost to develop the system or cost to develop games? I would expect games dev costs to be similar but with greater flexibility in Vita publishing points. Developing the system? Much higher for Vita.

@18:

Vitas are considerably cheaper than iPads/iPhones/Samsung Galaxy S3s/etc.

But the above mentioned can do everything, if not more, than Vitas (other than big budget games), and have a much, much bigger install base.

Retail price is a small factor here.

Plus most of those you mentioned G1GA are subsidised with long term contracts and data plans. So their price points can be offset. Not so easy to do with a game system. Tho I am expecting XBXNXT to carry such a biz model.

People will justify more on phones and tablets because of the use they get and the subscription schemes available. Any handheld will be seen as a games machine and need to be at a price the mass market will tolerate for that sort of device. Vita needs to be the prices OG mentioned above.

Edit: Actually I doubt many realise how much they do spend on phones as it is.

They surely do not. What Sony should do is sell Vitas with 3G data plans. Maybe Buy a Vita from At&t for 99$ and sign up for a 2 year 3G data plan. Something to get the average consumer jumping and “thinking” they got a value. That way they can build install base.

If your going to indirectly compete with the mobile market you might as well sell in some respects like one. Push Skype usage too like At&t can make a deal with Skype for you to get a set amount of skype credits to make calls with.

Why would anyone in their right mind use a dedicated handheld console for anything other than playing games? Let alone getting it for something like that.. It’s ridiculously lacking even compared to WP7. Does it even have an e-mail app or a calendar? Reminders? Notes/stickies? It’s not comparable even on a basic level.

Da Man it’s called bundled value. Manipulating the system core features and making it have market appeal. Vita has a web browser that allow you to access e-mail accounts. I use it all the time, There is a app coming out for vita soon called wake up with me where you get an alarm clock/calender/ and notes that you can share on near.

The premisses requires you to actually know what the device is capable of doing. If you make a $99 bundle through specific providers(not across the board) then you can give a scarey thing called wait for it………OPTIONS!*Gasp*

P.s The vita has already showed that it can be more then a dedicated gaming device.

Could you post a link saying there’s an upcoming app with anything other than alarms?

What, options and choice? What ‘re you talking about? That people would abandon smartphones or tablets in favour of this bundled value? And that they start using a dedicated handheld console with two analog sticks and a limited web browser (which you apparently like using for it’s minimal e-mail access) with promises of some basic functionality in the future?

Smartphones and tablet computers have marketplaces, where on top of basic features you can get both free and non free apps. Lots of them. Does psv have this? Nope.

On top of all that smartphones and tablets are open in terms of development. Android even allows you the freedom of putting malware on the store.

So what were you saying again?…

P.S. Where?

As a developer,

Why would you create a game for the Vita over the 3DS, IOS or Andriod?

Sony are really messing up here, by the time Vita starts getting into its stride, mobile devices will have easily surpassed it graphically and the 3DS will be completly mopping up.

The sales figures are soooo bad, especially in Japan where Sony usually does well, I just can’t see this changing until the price point drops hugely and a steady stream of good titles come out.

Sony are letting a quality device stagnate terribly.

Now the Nexus 7 is out at a cheaper price, they are really in the shit.

In before people call the Vita a dedicated games machine with 2 sticks…

Da Man seems like you don’t understand what this topic is about. We have been discussing what could not only get 3rd party developers on board more PLUS increase the install base of the device. This is not a “HEY I HATE THIS DEVICE BECAUSE I THINK IT’S SHIT DEBATE” this is a “What do you think this device can do to further improve its install base.” If you were less of a prick about everything that comes up about sony you’d be able to comprehend what people are discussing in an article.

Where? Clearly you don’t have the device and have only used it at a demo kiosk. Netflix,Skype, Facebook, Twitter, Music Unlimited have all already proven the device can be a portable hub dedicated to your personal entertainment. The Topic isn’t “OHZ BOIZ I THINK MY IPHONE/TABLET/CELL PHONE CANZ DO EVERYTHING SO WHY DO I NEED THIZ?!” its a factor that even though your phone can do it so can this and play games too.

@ monkey the nexu 7 is a sleek device but it is seriously lacking. It only has a front facing camera at 1.2 megapixels. No 3G only offers 8gb and 16gb storage. It is a nice device but in comparison to Vita it is a cheap device.

Also, if your developing for 3DS,iOS, and Tablets why not put your games on Vita as well? It’s just more income and appeals to more audiences. It would be naive as a developer that develops across the board to skip a potential source of income.

I think the situation of the vita will change as soon as the next gen consoles arrive, with that the console aspect of the handheld will not be the primary focus, then we are going to see a lot of games like gravity rush, that are only found on vita, and less games that are found on the sony console counterpart, i think that will be key, differentiate both sony products, because in a way right now they are competing, and price wise the ps3 has the edge, when the next gen arrive it will be not longer the case in both factors, price and games.

@28

I know where your coming from but something seems to be stopping the Vita getting the releases other mobile platforms do…

You can only posite, that Sony dislike IOS games coming out on Vita because they would have to sell them for 2.99, 69p etc… And that would undermine them trying to sell bigger games like Uncharted for 39.99…

A bit like the problem Nintendo had trying to sell games like tetris for 29.99 when you can get better versions on your phone for 69p…

This kind of thing plus free to play games must make it really hard to develop a game for Vita that might not reach the same target figures as they would on phones or the cheaper to develop for 3DS.

The market has changed so much and the Vita really seems to be a device that is struggling to find its niche…

Just my 2 Euros worth!

I would agree if it were’nt for free to play games existing and soon coming to Vita. PSO2 is suppose to be free to play across the board. TOMB is free to play with microtransactions. And a game like Crimson Gem Saga is on iOS right now for 9.99 but on psn where it’s compatible with psp and vita it’s 7.49.

Even mini’s like Farm Frenzy which before I new I bought new at gamestop on 3ds for my wife, it was 14.99. On PSN it was 3.99 the same exact game.
I don’t think Sony has anything against the pricing on the games on PSN I think it’s a case of developers eye’s being then they should.

They see iOS and they see 17 million already dedicated users. They look at 3DS and they see 19 million already dedicated users. Developers aren’t trying to make games that sell systems they are trying to sell games on already dedicated user install bases. And that’s a recipe for disaster. Just because your device has a high install base doesn’t mean they will buy your game.

We saw that with Jrpg’s on 360.

@31

I forgot about phantasy star and the like!

Surely Sony must have understood that’s the way dev ompanies are working in this present time? Even if it’s a shitty attitude, surely Sony’s R & D and marketing teams could have courted these developers abd sorted these issues out before its got to this stage?!

I mean, their the supposed experts aren’t they?

I think they have just been stubborn (no one wants to jump on their sword), and don’t seem to be able to come up with a second plan or angle.

Even thoughive sold mine, it is def nice tech. I really hope to see some stuff at TGS, Gamescon… If they miss these targets, they could be in deep shit.

I don’t think they have the time to wait for PS4 release to turn things around…

So we can establish that you were a liar about the organizer apps. Thanks, calling me a prick only further convinced me you weren’t just yet another Sony servant.

I ‘m well aware what I was on about, it was the app functionality which is factually completely inferior to any tablet/phone out there, even on a basic level.

I don’t quite see what not having something I deem so useless has anything to do with your argument…

#31 i would had agree with you, but using JRPGS on the 360 is not an accurate data, especially when JRPGS this generation was bad overall on all consoles, even Final Fantasy only sold decent numbers compare with past iterations, also i think that the DS which had an strong third party support, like most of the nintendo handheld consoles,indicates that even developers that pursue the idea regarding creating games to dedicated installed base on a device, can be done seliing good amount of titles being very profitable.

Actually no it isn’t me being a liar. What you look for in a universal Organizer app is not what you stated specifically. And I gave you an example of the app’s releasing for the device that have those particular functionality. Also, If you had been paying attention to PS Suites you would know that that will add more functionality across the board.

Don’t call me a servant because you like to derail discussions by trying to attack a persons personal observation’s on a discussion that is more interesting then bolstering about the inherent success of other devices. That is called making good constructive conversation and analysis of a hardwares in our particular interest group.

Also, Da Man I called you a Prick because you are generally a prick. no denying it show’s everywhere you post. You intentionally poke people to derail and get a reaction out of people and then after EVERY derailment you actually contribute something useful towards a convo and it’s generally very little.

@ Manu No the example was justified. MS originally tried to secure Japanese based games to gain a spot in Japan and in the western market as the go to system for games. And, it was initially working but the JRPG’s like Lost Odyssey Infinite Undiscovery, LAst Remnant, Tales of Vesperia, and Eternal Sonata showed that that wasn’t were the interest lied in the install base of 360 owners.

The point was to be made Developers have been making games based on a consoles install base and that’s just not a guaranteed hit in the gaming industry. 3DS sold based on the software of Mario, Zelda, Star Fox. Amazing Spiderman isn’t a system seller for the 3DS.

Wow, not only you are a proven liar, but a dishonest zealot too. Thanks for further convincing me then. You ‘re doing a pretty good job.

Out of interest, was there ever anything released by Sony you thought was bad?

Yes, I did state it:
quoteWhy would anyone in their right mind use a dedicated handheld console for anything other than playing games? Let alone getting it for something like that.. It’s ridiculously lacking even compared to WP7. Does it even have an e-mail app or a calendar? Reminders? Notes/stickies? It’s not comparable even on a basic level.

To which you replied with a
quoteThere is a app coming out for vita soon called wake up with me where you get an alarm clock/calender/ and notes that you can share on near.

After that I asked for a link.

Nowhere did I say ‘universal organizer app’. You did. That’s yet another convincing statement, you like putting words into others’ mouth.

Simple, right? Not that it should stop you from further trying to spin everything.

I contributed more than you! Esp since you seem to think making software for a platform with the biggest user base is an, erm ‘receipt for disaster’.. Right, which is why Ps2 saw all those releases. they all made a huge mistake, right.
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Sorry, I’ll take a box of sweets and my $599 next time I dare criticize a shitty jap company. is there anything else you wanted to say on topic? Because atm in addition to all that you’re also establishing yourself as an idiot with inane posts.

Besides, I ‘m not derailing *any*thing here. You were the first to go on about other functionality, I merely stated the fact that it’s nowhere near phones/tablets, thus it’s ridiculous to try and compare it in that regard.

Oh hey its this again.

“in addition to all that you’re also establishing yourself as an idiot with inane posts.”

Oh the irony, you’re calling someone “an idiot with inane posts”, it humors me.

It’s not my job to provide you with links towards a device that you want to critize I told you about the App YOU go find it. Also, you said i’m putting a spin on things yet your talking about one thing out of 10 things i’ve brought up for discussion. You completely forgot to point out how you (possibly without reading prior comments) just bursted in in rage mode over me talking about a potential business plan that Sony could look into to move more units.

Also, Ps2 had TONS of games your right. But, did they have tons of success? No. Look at critically acclaimed games like Godhand which was a giant flop. Brave Samurai Musashi where the Soundtrack was amazing, gameplay mediocre and still FLOPPED. Would it have do better if it wasn’t for them only being released on 1 platform flooded with other games that had more hype? Probably so.

And yes there is plenty of things for Sony I don’t give a shit for and i’ve expressed my disdain for them too. Infamous 1 being amongst the games. Folklore another. Hell Ps2 had tons of crap festering through them. But is that the topic? No. The topic is you half assing your research on a device because you think a cellphone can “do it” better.

Again, if it’s hard for you to stay on topic then I will do like i’ve been doing overlooking your post.

Before taking out swords and daggers and taking Sony to the gallows, can we wait for a few more months? People like OG here are already saying sony does not know business, cant sell hardware etc. despite the fact that they had bested the previous 2 gens by a long margin and beat ninty to a pulp. I think the overall sony climate is preventing them from taking drastic measures like ninty did with 3ds.
Same doomsayers rejected ps3 but it has recovered well from the earlier slump.
Although it definitely looks like sony needs to something to make vita reach “critical mass” asap, ie. a large user base. I more they delay in doing so, the more they will repent it afterwards.

@40

I know what you mean, but I think gamers have a little right to be hard on companies at the moment, especially considering the amount of shit being funnelled into our stomachs like a fois gras goose…

All 4 major players, MS, Apple, Sony and Nintendo have all made very dubious choices regarding how they view the next generation of media and gaming output they think ‘fans’ and general consumers want…

To be honset, venting a bit when someone makes a bad call that everyone could spot from a mile off or squandering good tech in this case helps a little!

At this stage Sony might has well made a new issue of the PSP with an OLED screen at a budget price and ran that until PS4 came out, then launch VIta shortly after that with a shit load of polished titles and FULL PS4 integration…

Sony are in the weakest position this coming gen, they have lots of conflicting products and seem unsure how to tie all their SMART TVs, tablets, Bluray, Phones, Handhelds and Home PCs together…

MS are in the best position next gen with Kinect 2 and Smart Glass.

Sony could screw up big time if they can’t figure out what they actually want people to buy and How it works together…

PS Move in PS4 or are they gonna scrap it?! PS Go lost tons of money… Tablets are failing against rivals…

Jack of all trades, master of none…

Not that Ninty and MS aren’t without their failings, but Sony really need to blow peoples tits off with PS4 and Vita…

Everyone seems to forget that Most Sony consoles are sleeper devices to install media formats into people’s living rooms, DVD, Bluray etc…

They play just as dirty as everyone else!

Yes, they’re so inane that I made a simple three sentence post stating facts, which was escalated to a whole whopping debate. Do you know what ‘inane’ means, language barrier perhaps? Oh oh oh. Do try harder though.

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You said there’s an app which encompasses the functionality I mentioned. There’s none. It doesn’t exist and there was no such announcement. Ironically, you ‘re a bigger twerp than me here…

Yes they did, the whole reason Re4 went to Ps2 was the userbase… It came out on Gamecube in an attempt to sell the system and then came to the one with the biggest amount of customers, as usual.. I don’t see how some titles which flopped (can be found anywhere) prove otherwise. Niche/poor games can indeed find success on worse selling platforms, but that’s another topic entirely.

I’m not half arsing. I was saying the obvious, which isn’t only how it can do it better, but merely do it, while Psv can’t do borderline anything… Why try and sell Psv with 3g plans in the same manner phones are being offered (the post I was originally addressing), it’s a crazy idea.

“People like OG here are already saying sony does not know business, cant sell hardware etc. despite the fact that they had bested the previous 2 gens by a long margin and beat ninty to a pulp. I think the overall sony climate is preventing them from taking drastic measures like ninty did with 3ds.”

Mostly what I was talking about was Sony not understanding/keeping up the changes in market place climate. If anything their hardware is too good. An that leads to what I think of Sonys biggest handicap this gen: competitive price points.

Sony didn’t clean up with PSx and PS2 by making expensive hardware. They won by releasing affordable systems. Meeting that sweet spot of mass market price. Combined, of course, with strong JPN support(something that they haven’t been able to count on this gen).

It is also worth noting that Sony didn’t beat Nintendo last gen in the handheld space. I am not sure anyone ever has. The Atari Lynx was better hardware. The TG Express was better hardware. And the Gamegear was better hardware. Over the current at the time Nintendo gameboy offerings. Pointing that out, because here comes Sony, and with two gens of handheld systems, they also have better hardware. And yet Nintendo is rolling them.

That isn’t a fanboy Nintendo thing, really it isn’t. Just backing up my asertion that tech savy hardware alone doesn’t win a hardware war. Sometimes all it does price you out of the market. That has happend to Sony twice.

I hope they don’t do it again for PS4.

@43

Both MS and Sony really need to thnk hard about some kind of subscription based sale pattern for next gen if they want to keep high performance consoles but also offer a means of entry for lower income family’s.

If they can make really good tech that could survive 6 – 8 years, it’s going to cost about £350 – 450 on launch especially if it comes bundled with things like Kinect 2…

Now if they can release the console for £149.99 with a 5 year subscription service that costs £49.99 a year, that can kind of make up the difference and give two options for people on different incomes…

Only thing is, Sony prides itself with ‘free online’… Whereas Xbox owners are used to paying for services (obs PS Plus is the exception…).

So any switch by Sony could garner a negative reaction from Playstation owners.

I think you’re spot on Monkey. And I have a suspicion that XBXNXT will have such a plan. Could well be like my cable, you get the box for free, but you pay for the service to use it. I just don’t know if Sony have been building enough parteneer suport to offer a substantial service. I think MS have been hard at work doing just that.

@45

I think so too, and that where I think a Western Company can really damage Sony and Nintendo in the long run, via media control.

It’s not what gamers want but as devices are merging, MS has been quite clever not to confuse their brand.

The home media box is what there aiming for… Even the Xbox name sounds like a media hub, it clearly is how they viewed the brand.

Sony have their fingers in a lot of pies but seem confused about where the PS brand is heading. Hopefully purchase of Gaikai will prove fruitful, and Vita can be correctly integrated into PS4…

MS are building some seriously powerful media partners at the moment though, it’s like they are on the verge of a huuuuuge takeover of general media space. Only Apple can really block that with Apple TV.

At home at the moment, I’m running a Acer Revo mini PC with XBMC, which runs films at 1080p using my iPad as a visual remote control.

It’s fanastic, and seeing Smartglass at this years e3 was clearly MS’s attempt to bring that kind of functionality to the mass market without any kind of messing around and techie knowledge.

Coupled with Kinect 2 and potentially AR glasses and the suggested specs of Durango, they have a potentially formidable set up.

If they also been spending the time in the Xbox’s twilight years making some good exclusives while Sony has been spending all there money on PS3 exclusives, they could kick off the next gen in a big way…

I can see Sony ditching Home and Eyetoy with the PS4, how they include Vita and Move in their PS4 plans will be interesting…

Fully agree.

http://youtu.be/uhmSSyqwnNY lazy ass can’t even look something up yet still claiming it’s non existing. What you don’t seem to get is this was about what Vita can do to better itself. You claim what I said was inane but couldn’t take 5 fucking minutes to look up a simple app that is to give functionality to the device.

1 of others soon to release on the apps department for vita. You claim you can’t compare Vita to Phones because it doesn’t offer the same things? It’s already got dedicated apps like cell phones and soon a dedicated Market place and 3FUCKING G.

You very much can compare the device to the mobile market because it’s a mobile device! I swear your brash ignorance is so frustrating that im done talkin to you. Say whatever you like after this dude because clearly you like beings a angry blind hater.

When I compared the flops of developers from the ps2 gamecube era I had more tales of failure then your 1 success story. So just shut the hell up if you can’t stay on topic. I’m no longer lower my standard on this one. If anyone else want’s to discuss possible ways to increase the consoles install base im game.Peace

@ #35 lexph3re: “3DS sold based on the software of Mario, Zelda, Star Fox. Amazing Spiderman isn’t a system seller for the 3DS.”

Really don’t mean sound like a prick, but I bought my 3DS (XL, bitchez) more or less exclusively to play Castlevania LoS:MoF on my daily commute and don’t own any Nintendo titles (…yet). But I accept I’m in the minority.

Point is, long-term 3rd-parties are important no matter which first-party you are. Why else would Nintendo make such a big deal out of courting the third parties for Wii U support and feature them so heavily in their E3 presentations?

@46,
I dont think ms can do so . Their multimedia apps in us is definitely better but sony leads in eu and japan . I think it will boil down to who differentiates their next-gen consoles from present ones. The company which provides the most “universal “box will win imho.