UK charts: Duke nukes LA Noire from top spot

Shows that the Duke brand is still relevant and powerfull today, because it sure as hell diden’t sell on the quality of the gameplay.

Guessing the PS3 version of Red Faction suffered from launching the same week as Infamous 2. Not a great start for Infamous either, though.

@2 I think Infamous 2 did well for a PS3 only title.

Loving inFamous 2. Even more amazing than the original.

Infamous 2 should’ve at least beaten Zumba Fitness. That’s practically single-format (95% of sales on Wii) and it’s been out for ages!

Agree with Blerk that it’s not great to be beaten by two other titles which have been out a good few weeks.

Despite some middling/poor reviews I was looking to pick up the other PS3 exclusive this weekend – White Knight Chronicles 2. Due to the sterling job done by SCEE I couldn’t actually find a copy. It wasn’t that it was sold out, it just wasn’t being stocked. Here’s a hint Sony – if you want players to support your games then how about supporting them yourself?

Sony have this weird habit of launching multiple exclusives in the same week, so they’re competing with themselves. What’s that all about?

Having said that I wouldn’t consider buying Infamous 2 currently as I’m happily making my way through Infamous 1 courtesy of the Welcome Back thing. It may have a longer tail than expected due to this.

@7
The genres are diverse enough to support it, though I contest your assertion that they are in any way competing with respect to WKC2. If it’s not on the shelves it can’t really compete can it?

I guess that’s true!

They did launch WKC2 for PS3 and WKC: Origins for PSP on the same day too, though.

Would have been nice to see WKC 2 up there, oh well

Duke Nukem Whenever slated for 2013/14 Mark my word!
Gearbox would use latest unreal engine like for Borderlands and Colonial Marines and that would be great game:P

They should call it ‘Duke Nukem Whatever’.

Duke Nukem going to Number 1 is exactly the opposite of what should have happened.

@14 The developer put a lot of effort and time (srslol) into the game. The quality is utterly shite but atleast they can leave the franchise be for now (forever).

Hail to the King baby! xD

Back in the old days, gamers used to love games. Neo-gamers are all about hating them.

Nobody’s pushing Duke Nukem in your face. If you can’t appreciate the fact that a 12 year old game sees release, outliving its own studio and probably large parts of its original fanbase, you should really go polish your Smashing Pumpkins CD’s, think evil thoughts about your parents for not getting you that [Useless Object] and cut yourself a little. You’ll feel better.

As we speak a army of emo neo-gamers unite against DSB…& write nasty things about him on their blog pages

This cut really hurts! I’m not taking your advice again, man!

That’s the shame hurting you, not the cut!

Heh heh. I’m actually quite keen to try Duke, just not keen enough to actually buy it. Release the demo, already!

The demo doesn’t really do it justice, but I think anyone’s right to wait unless they have those fond memories of the old games. It’s essentially what you’d expect from a Duke Nukem game from the period between 2000 and 2004.

Obviously not worth the full price given the competition today, but as a huge Duke fan from way back when, I can totally live with how dated it feels. It’s easily a better sequel than Doom 3.

It’s also a funny look into how much crap a development team will cram into a game, if the lead designer has absolutely no critical sense.

But for anyone who isn’t interested in Duke nostalgia, you should definitely wait for a sale.

From the sounds of it there are going to be quite a lot of copies jostling for space on the pre-owned shelves by the end of the week.

@1 I don’t think it’s the fact that it’s Duke Nukem, It’s probably because it’s Duke Nukem Forever.

I for one didn’t care if it was a piece of shit, I just had to own a piece of video game history.

Wow, i can’t believe people actually bought that crude, immature pile of shit.

Due to it’s shitty ending I wouldnd buy LA Noir anymore. Duke instead is a super funny game and worth any price tag imo!

Infamous 2 would of sold more at a lower price point, £50 on PSN, are they fucking mad!!!!!!!!

@27

Blame retail stores as publishers still bizarrely cater to them more than digital revenues.

@27

Retailers have laws against digital stores if they did put it at a lower price point Brick amd mortar stores would blacklist their games. No publish is yet ready to make that jump with bandwidth not fully utilized.

@26

Really? Everyone else seems to think it’s an absolute disaster and a massive waste of everyone’s time. Plus two gun limitlol.

One thing’s for sure, the ammount of garbage that’s been said in reviews with regards to DNF far supercedes anything that’s actually in the game.

It’s incredible how many games writers are actually holy men, who care so much for women, that it’s practically unbearable to sit through a session of Duke Nukem Forever.

Male feminists are seriously the most ridiculous people in the world. Grow a fucking vagina, cunt-hippies.

@26 It’s an ancient game, and it definitely shows, but it’s still no less fun than any other old game. An alarming number of those reviewers seem to be going off on tangents that have nothing to do with the game itself.

Although you can definitely argue the sense in asking full price for a game that can’t compete with anything else today.

I thought DNF’s problem was the game is boring and shit, not that it’s insensitive.

@32

It is boring if this was 10 years ago people would have shrugged it off but in today’s age with the price tag they are slamming onto DNF. It should be reviewed as if it was in the same rank as COD/Battlefield or any shooter. You want to charge for the big boy price you get treated like a big boy. 2k should have taken it as a loss and just charged 25-30$ not that 50-60$ price F that noise.

It’s boring and shit for console players and who never played Duke Nukem games before or just don’t like the philosophy of these type of games.

Back on topic. The problem with DNF that it has only 2 guns which is absolutely disrespectfull to the first Duke Nukem 3D and similar games design philosophy.
Levels in most cases were cut and in the end it’s just a linear experience.
Exploration does not exist which is a shame.
Minimum interactivity for the Duke’s game.

I saw earlier build for Duke Nukem forever when it was just in development in 3D Realms and it was a completely different game (the most hillarous thing that IGN saw that build and posted on their site like in 2002 or 2003 i don’t remember). The Duke people all wanted really just was not ready even for today. Design was broken basically. 3 studios can’t make a game, especially when it is in development for 12 years.

But it’s not a BAD game. It’s not a bad game at all. It’s not worth 60$ thats for sure, but it’s not a bad game. It’s just average because a lot of content was cut and it’s not boring. If it is boring for someone he is a fucking noob and deserve to play Call Of Duty to death with some casual crap like Mass Effect that have no puzzles and RPG elements and etc. thinking that it has an amazing story and etc.

Duke Nukem forever didn’t disapointed me, because it was just a vaporware since 2004, so i’m ready for the Real Next Generation Duke Nukem. DNF was not just a nostalgia for me, i just wanted to see what they wanted to achieve 12 years ago.

@34

Lot of content was cut because it was broken so Gearbox removed to make the deadline and not pushing the release date even further. If anything they may fix what content was originally there and throw it in as DLC. 3D Realms will be known as a joke for developers and as an example to what not to do in this industry.

@35, 3D Realms is not a joke and never will be a joke. They are the one who created one of the best games in history. They created 40 games

and Duke Nukem forever had just a bad design philosophy. Same philosophy shared Polyphony digital with Gran Turismo 5 or Blizzard entertainment with SC2.

but there is a difference. 3D Realms at it’s time when they developed game had a lot of publishers which didn’t liked that or that or that.

In the end project died. No biggie. 3D Realms is fantastic, they created a lot of fantastic titles and i will remember them till i die.
3D Relams is my childhood and i have no regrets playing DNF.

@36

They are a joke they took too long to make a game, they kept changing engines and designs mid production. They are the prime example of what not to do if you want to be a developer. Gearbox is made of mostly of people from Duke 3d and they can handle Duke. 3D realm couldn’t hack it and thats why they died off. Not because of the publisher but because they bit off more than they could chew.

“They are a joke they took too long to make a game, they kept changing engines and designs mid production. They are the prime example of what not to do if you want to be a developer.”

So what? So what? These guys created 40 titles before.

I will repeat again. It’s not a developers fault. It’s a publishers fault. They didn’t recieved enough money and half staff worked, in the end only one designer worked on Duke.
also the team is very small. 35 people only, not 100 or 200.

I will repeat myself last time. These guys created 40 games. 40! Some of which are masterpieces and some of the games they worked with ID software. Wolfenstein 3D is an example. If you don’t know what it is, then sorry.

So your argument about “3D realms is a joke… du~uh… Herp derp” is invalid.

@38

“35 people only, not 100 or 200.”
Excuse Portal 2 was made with the same amount of people in half the time.

“These guys created 40 games. 40! ” So? I can count with one hand how many were good the rest were utter shit.

The publisher gives them money to make a game if they can’t make a milestone then the developer doesn’t get paid they miss a paycheck so everytime they had missed a milestone they had to fire more and more people to stretch the dollars they had. The owner of 3d realms was putting his own money into development. This is what 3d Realms signed on to that is what the contract states you make these milestone we pay you x dollars. Thats probably why most of the members of 3d Realms went to make Gearbox because they didn’t want to sign on to that deal and I don’t blame them.

Jesus if Duke Nukem Forever actually was dated then it might be a better fucking game that it turned out to be.

However its filled to the brim with every shitty choice that has become the FPS norm since Duke 3D. Regenerating Health, 2 gun limit, on rails/turret sections, non-interactive cut-scenes, forcing the player to watch the horrible non-interactive cut-scenes, horrible linearity, shitty weapons and a general lack of fun gameplay.

This is a Duke game in all but name and shit jokes.

I don’t agree that a game being aged somehow makes it less fun. It just plays by different rules.

Sure, two guns is pants, physics puzzles are lame, and platforming has long since been purged from the FPS, but it’s not like any of that instantly disqualifies the game in any way.

Ultimately the blame lies with Broussard. He was in charge and he was obviously completely incompetent in leading a project like that. It’s not the first or the last time that happens, just look at Kaos Studios.

As someone who played the old games to death back in the 90′s, I feel totally redeemed playing Duke Nukem Forever. It’s a very genuine sequel, and vastly more so than Doom 3 in comparison.

People bitch a lot about what it lacks compared to modern games, which is kind of pointless, since it isn’t one. Besides the point though, what would you expect? Highly detailed gameplay sporting the newest features, with cutting edge writing recalling the likes of Keats and F. Scott Fitzgerald?

Then it would have zero credibility what so ever – It’s a simple game, it’s base and it’s old, just like the games it’s following up on. I don’t see it pretending to be anything else.

I think a lot of people ignored reviews because they could sense the pre-baked hatred reviewers had toward the game or the gender politics that the critics were putting into their reviews. Kind of the same thing that will happen with Modern Warfare 3. Consumers already understand there that critics will hate games that they’re not good at since they’re forced to rush through them as soon as possible.