Sony extends anti-hacker legal net, plans to subpoena sites

Monday, 7th February 2011 23:34 GMT By Brenna Hillier

According to court documents received by PSX-SCENE, Sony is ramping its anti-piracy legal activities in an attempt to track down major figures in the homebrew and hacking communities.

Following its case against GeoHot, Dukio reports that Sony is planning to subpoena YouTube, Twitter, PayPal and Slashdot as well as various PlayStation and cracking-centric forums and sites.

Sony allegedly means to track down Cantero, Peter, Bushing, Segher, hermesEOL, Waninkoko, KaKaRoTo, Hermes, Kmeaw and Graf_Chokolo, all named within the documents, among several others.

The targeted sites will be required to give up each user’s contact details and personal information, as well as all posts and documents created, IP address information and more.

Thanks, Gamefront.



  1. Crysis

    Wow, Sony’s really tacking a stand against hackers, must have cost a fuckload to implement their security system, but it’s fair enough, if someone stole your key & copied it & gave it out to everyone, I’m sure that no one with a brain on this site would be happy, unfortunately for Sony’s sake, fixing it isn’t as simple as getting a new lock.

    #1 4 years ago
  2. lexph3re

    Holy sh*t! Sony is kicking it into high gear. I honestly thought that it would be close to impossible to find these guys due to how vast the internet is. But, hot damn they are out doing themselves. Guess its an example to internet users that we can be found…. with the right amount of money. Oh wait that’s nothing new our info is sold daily pfft -_-

    #2 4 years ago
  3. Bond James Bond

    Sony are fucked and they know it.

    #3 4 years ago
  4. theBEAST137

    #3 is right. They are doing all of these lawsuits to make the general audience think that their console’s safety is being worked on, but Sony knows that there is nothing they can do to stop it without making a Playstation 4. Plus, the way that the security code was revealed was by fault of Sony, as they essentially gave it away behind a code of math that could be easily solved by people willing to dig into it. The distribution of the code would be the only thing that they might be able to get a win on the lawsuit side, but even then, it will be extremely difficult to bring the law into it.

    Give up Sony. Exploiters win.

    #4 4 years ago
  5. Michael O’Connor

    @2 You underestimate how incredibly easy it is to track down people online. Just as an example… if Pat wanted to, he could easily find out out where most of us live simply by tracking our IP addresses, which are recorded every single time you post.

    You’d be amazed how quickly these people will crumble to provide such information with the threat of financial “if you don’t give us the information we want, we’ll sue the pants of you” bankruptcy being throw in their direction.

    #5 4 years ago
  6. Over

    @1 except that If Sony sold you a house, you have the right to make as many copies of the keys as you want. It’s your house.

    Sony’s strategy is to go after the main hackers. The problem is that I’m sure there’s more capable hackers around. Other hackers will come to the foreground.

    #6 4 years ago
  7. Erthazus

    To be honest there is no point anymore.

    Sony is late for the party… Ps3 is hacked to pieces.

    #7 4 years ago
  8. Crysis

    But Sony isn’t selling the house, they’re renting it out to us. We own the PS3, Sony can’t do a damn thing to us for fucking with the hardware, but why does everybody instantly think they also own the software of everything we buy? It’s a new day & age, get used of it. I assume half the pro hacking community have never read the Terms & Conditions in anything they have ever signed/agreed to.

    #8 4 years ago
  9. lexph3re

    I was hoping people would get that crysis. But everyone keeps going about talking about how its “mine mine mine”. I stated this in an older post, I for one think sony,microsoft, nintendo, or any other aspiring company has the right to sue if people hacked/rewrote the software they promised not to tamper with.(online user agreements) when xbox was hacked they didn’t hack the security of the software they hacked the games. That’s why xbl is able to implement the ban hammers.

    Sony on the other hand can’t ban or tell whose doing it. So its completely different circumstances and they are force to take it personal. Its like giving your friend a key to your house but when you come home some weird guys sleeping on your couch. And when you ask the guy wth he’s doing there he says “oh, bill gave me a copy of your key and told me I can crash here. Don’t mind me*rolls back over*”. Are you not going to go find your friend(after kicking the weirdo out) and kick his ass?

    Of course in this scenario you can’t sue your friend because you didn’t have him sign a contract not to copy and distribute your keys. But, sony did get them to agree legally. Sony,microsoft and nintendo got all of us to agree to their terms to get online. So how can any of you complain or call foul on sony’s part?

    #9 4 years ago
  10. The_Red

    This could actually hurt Sony more than the PS3 hackers. With this action, Sony has declared war on hacking community.
    “It’s on now!”.

    #10 4 years ago
  11. NoxNoctisUmbra

    Even Xbox 360 is hacked to pieces. All systems are hacked. As long I play a multilayer game without any hackers, I will be happy.

    #11 4 years ago
  12. ninjanutta

    all sony is doing is trying to slow down the ultra fast mess they found themselves in all of a sudden,they are trying to catch a breath and see if they can close the gapping hole that got opened up.Its too late i think,they are going for the big money bully approach to keep their software companys happy.if you was producing games for ps3 exclusivley,you would be pissed off knowing that 50% or more owners are getting your game for free,sony cant offer any reason to stay loyal to ps3 and thats the bottom line.i love my ps3 but 360,wii are both in the same boat and still turn a nice profit.time for sony to suck it up and stop acting like kids,its going to back fire badly on them im afraid.

    #12 4 years ago
  13. NoxNoctisUmbra

    On and all they are still making profits, yet they want more , but if I was in charge of a game company, and know that many of my consoles are hacked, I would try to sue all of them if i could. No one’s buisness should be hacked, no matter how evil or good they are.

    #13 4 years ago
  14. back_up

    put all those idiots in jail

    #14 4 years ago
  15. Over

    Crisis, when I went to the store and BOUGHT the console, no one said I was renting it. And I don’t care if in the terms & conditions in the console’s OS says anything about it (if at all), because the terms & conditions should be exposed before the sale. What, if I buy a PS3, then I’m able to read the terms & conditions and I don’t agree, can I return it to the store? I don’t know about the USA, but in my country, if you open the box, you loose the right to return it (unless there’s a fault, of course).

    #15 4 years ago
  16. TheWulf

    Don’t bother with Crysis. I know a contrarian troll when I see one, because they tend to shove fallacies in the face of anyone who’ll give them the time of day, just to support their contrarian viewpoints.

    The example of the fallacy here is that Crysis is being intellectually dishonest by willfully purporting the fallacy that Sony’s root key is a physical thing. By doing so he’s trying to trick you to accept that there’s scarcity involved in this argument, there isn’t.

    The root key is a non-physical thing. A house key is a physical thing.

    Therefore, Crysis’ entire argument is entirely null and void. He’s trying to have you think that people could copy your key to get into your house to steal something that you only have one instance of (scarcity). However, if someone utilised the root key (infinite instances) to run homebrew (infinite instances) on a hacked console (personal property) then it has absolutely no relation to Crysis’ entirely fallacious argument.

    In other words, his argument is sound and fury but it doesn’t signify anything because it doesn’t relate to the situation at hand. You can’t mix up scarcity with an instance of something that has no scarcity. He’s trying to purport that scarcity exists in data though, that’s what the argument of him and people like him boils down to. Hopefully that’s as clear as day to anyone with a brain, as Crysis puts it. :P

    #16 4 years ago
  17. TheWulf

    Really, could we stop this trolling about data as scarcity? Won’t someone please think of the little baby megabytes that are being callously stolen from Sony?! Please think of the data babies! It’s getting as old as it is ridiculous.

    Please stop relating data to physical things, it results in nonsense arguments that geeks like myself have to spell out in layman’s terms, and we’re always completely embarrassed for the people who make these arguments. If you’re going to make an argument, you have to make it in relation to data and information. You can’t compare data to physical objects because they are not the same.

    Copying a file is never the same as stealing a single instance of a physical object. So let’s just stop that now. It’s completely ludicrous. And I’m afraid I’m going to end up with brain damage from all the violent facepalming I end up doing every time someone tries to relate data to a physical object.

    Next thing you’ll be telling us that the insides of our computers are really like Tron. If you don’t understand how it works, don’t talk about it.

    #17 4 years ago
  18. ninjanutta

    @wulf????????what are you on about,have you got an obsession with cock or are you a sony lawyer,i cant may think you have apoint in lar lar land but sorry,your chatting utter tripe mate.

    #18 4 years ago
  19. daytripper

    “Next thing you’ll be telling us that the insides of our computers are really like Tron”

    if only :-)

    #19 4 years ago
  20. lexph3re

    @the wulf. What is data housed in? Is it not a physical item? Is data not transfered from one physical device to another? Data isn’t just lingering in the air, so it does have a physical form. And, the data on the ps3 is stored in a physical medium. So, in those retrospecs it is scarce. It is not growing within itself reproducing new forms of data. It is at a default setting.

    Anything with a file restriction is at a finite standard not infinte. So when you see a file at 6 mb its is not infinetly unlocked. The only way you can make it infinite is to copy and produce it. Now, any given passcode or security standard is at a finite state. So, it can be own and given standards of distribution. But, at this point there are few laws on digital distribution and they do not protect the distributor of said data. So, terms and services are applied.

    So, in this scenario with sony versus hacker, they took a finite code placed it on a physical standard and transferred it to another physical standard. While distributing it over the net. You can hypothetically compare the scenario to a house key

    #20 4 years ago
  21. NeoSquall

    Man Sony has really started the Legalroll

    #21 4 years ago

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