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Mikhailov: Move’s Star Wars game will “be damn better than Kinect could ever do”

Thursday, 25th November 2010 13:48 GMT By Johnny Cullen

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Sony R&D bod Anton Mikhailov has hit out at Kinect’s abillity to deliver a proper Star Wars title with the tech.

Microsoft unveiled a Star Wars title for Kinect back at E3, with Kinect boss Kudo Tsunoda dating it for Christmas 2011 at the start of the month.

But Mikhailov came out punching against the motion-free tech, saying the wand-like device can do better with Star Wars.

“I’m usually not very aggressive, but I will say it’ll [Move's Star Wars game] be damn better than Kinect could ever do,” Mikhailov told Eurogamer.

“There’s no way Kinect can do a good lightsaber game. Just never. Unless they give you a stick. If they give you a stick then they can do OK, but then they’re going to ruin their whole no controller motto.

“I’ve seen the demo but it’s so scripted, and wasn’t it like, faked?”

In actuality, Sony hasn’t actually announced a Star Wars title for Move so far, nor has IP owner LucasArts. So has Mikhailov spilt his load on something before its time?

“I’m not in the product planning division so unfortunately I can’t tell you much more about that. But technologically it’s 100 per cent feasible.”

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  1. LOLshock94

    ahhhahaahhaah awwwwwwwwwwwwww sum1 angry tht MOVE didnt sell

    #1 3 years ago
  2. 52pickup

    So Sony’s Dec. 12th reveal is a Star Wars game? :)

    #2 3 years ago
  3. viralshag

    Kinect would be better when you want to emulate using the force.

    However, the Move would give you a better impression of holding a Lightsaber.

    Either combine the two or make me a real Lightsaber…

    #3 3 years ago
  4. Erthazus

    @2 :D nice one.

    Mikhailov is a smart guy btw… Can’t say that he is a douche. He created with another guy that Move tech.

    #4 3 years ago
  5. Erthazus

    “I can sort of see them doing it, like hold your hands together and move like this [holds them out in front of his body], and then from the x, y, position and for the angle. If anyone’s listening, you guys should try that. That would probably work all right.”

    + this is interesting:

    Mikhailov should know: he revealed to Eurogamer that Sony stopped research on 3D camera technology before it settled upon Move.

    #5 3 years ago
  6. Michael O’Connor

    Bit of a new brainer, really.

    #6 3 years ago
  7. StolenGlory

    Really?

    Honestly, who cares which platform holder can bring out a better, more gimmicky motion controlled lightsaber game than the other?

    #7 3 years ago
  8. Gadzooks!

    Mikhailov is not a smart guy. He should actually make sure his claims are not bogus before flapping his mouth.

    The proof that Kinect can do a lightsaber game is in this EG thread: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2010-11-25-kinect-cant-do-a-good-lightsaber-game/comments

    #8 3 years ago
  9. Psychotext

    I linked this in the similar EG article: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EeJCln5KYg

    Done on the PC using a bit of wood to track. Maybe they could include a lightsaber hilt with the game. ;)

    …and yes, it’s laggy, but keep in mind it’s been knocked up using hacked drivers in a couple of days by some random coder, not a whole team of developers with a big budget.

    Edit – Bah, apparently Gadzooks! beat me to it.

    That aside, it would still suck without a way of moving around. :)

    #9 3 years ago
  10. freedoms_stain

    What I would like to see is a Jedi Knight II style game where the lightsaber was controlled via motion controls.

    Kinect can’t really deliver that, Move can.

    The only issue I see is that the traditional lightsaber stance is double handed, if you’ve got Move in one hand and the Nav in the other it’s not going to feel right.

    #10 3 years ago
  11. KAP

    CONect can barely work let along make a convicing star wars title..

    MOVE will defo make a more robust game with the tech it has under its belt.

    #11 3 years ago
  12. Erthazus

    @9 i saw your comment on Eurogamer… But in reality it is what Mikhailov SAID.

    you can’t use lightsaber so fast. It’s not accurate and it can’t detect your wrist.

    “I can sort of see them doing it, like hold your hands together and move like this [holds them out in front of his body], and then from the x, y, position and for the angle. If anyone’s listening, you guys should try that. That would probably work all right.”

    X, Y, and Z not going to cut it.

    #12 3 years ago
  13. Psychotext

    That’s why it’s detecting the stick… it’s not complicated.

    Hell, I’d bet a kid would rather play with a fake lightsaber that’s being detected than the dildo. Of course, your house would get entirely smashed up, but I guess that’s part of the fun too. :D

    #13 3 years ago
  14. Erthazus

    @13 Except it’s not going to work because kinect can’t recognise your wrist. You can’t wave it like a fucking… DARTH VADER :D
    You can’t do it really fast.

    But with the stick as Mikhailov said it will ruin: “You are a fucking controller”.

    “Hell, I’d bet a kid would rather play with a fake lightsaber that’s being detected than the dildo.”

    When you are a kid you don’t know this word (unless you saw your parents XD) and it’s natural to play… mhm.. with the stick.. XDDD

    #14 3 years ago
  15. JonFE

    Psycho,

    Do you *actually* need convincing that there’s no point arguing with Erthazus over… anything really???

    #15 3 years ago
  16. Michael O’Connor

    @14 It wouldn’t be tracking your wrist. It would be tracking the stick in your hand. They could probably bundle the game with a lightsaber peripherial, actually.

    Agreed though. This would be far more precise on the PS3, using Move. I don’t think it would be terrible on the Kinect, but the Move is obviously far more precise when it comes to this sort of motion tracking, so it’s a bit of a no-brainer, really.

    @15 Erth actually has a point of once, and it’s a valid point regardless of whose mouth it’s coming out of.

    #16 3 years ago
  17. Psychotext

    “Do you *actually* need convincing that there’s no point arguing with Erthazus over… anything really???”

    That’s why I’m not posting again. I said / backed up my point and anything further will just be a 200 comments long bitch fest. I tend not to bother staying involved with the more stupid discussions these days. :)

    #17 3 years ago
  18. Erthazus

    @16, now with that i agree. But how much this thing is going to cost? + it’s not about a detection of a wrist then. But it’s going to be just slow.

    But yeah i want to see next E3.. because everything what was shown was staged.

    @15, hey can you say something more productive than your trollism?

    #18 3 years ago
  19. Craymen Edge

    Don’t be silly, Mr. Sony man. NEITHER OF YOU are going to deliver a good Star Wars game.

    #19 3 years ago
  20. Blerk

    Amen, Mr Edge.

    #20 3 years ago
  21. theevilaires

    and the NATAL defense force is in full damage control mode on this article :D

    #21 3 years ago
  22. naffgeek

    Until people stop trying to crow bar motion control into todays games, nothing is gonna be that impressive imho.

    I am still waiting for the killer idea that makes everyone change their whole perception of motion controls (or Child of Eden).

    #22 3 years ago
  23. JonFE

    @Erthazus:

    I’m quite positive that if *anyone* could judge my entire comment history here or in Eurogamer, I’d hardly be called a troll.

    Your posting history, however, has shown an extreme intolerance over accepting anything other than your “well educated” opinion…

    #23 3 years ago
  24. Michael O’Connor

    @23 Still doesn’t change the fact that, in this specific instance, he actually has a point, and one which nobody has adequately argued against either.

    Instead, you’re insulting each other where you should discussing the topic at hand. It’s that sort of stuff that kills threads.

    Kinect’s lag is minute, but it’s still there. There is simply no way you can compare that to the Move’s super fast and super reliable precision. Force move could be easily pulled off as well, simply by detecting specific movements of the Move, such as a dramatic forward movement for a force push.

    #24 3 years ago
  25. cookiejar

    It would be though :D

    To be honest, anything that related to holding a physical object (Sword, Wand and yes a Lightsaber)would surely work better with Move. I was actually surprised the latest Potter game didn’t use move. It sounded ideal.

    I just hope MGS Rising uses Move. Be silly not to.

    #25 3 years ago
  26. JonFE

    @Michael:

    I’m not insulting anyone; just stating a observation, based on his posting history.

    But, for the sake of the argument, let’s discuss the article.

    1. Kinect’s Star Wars is a game we really know nothing about, besides that trailer. All we can do is speculate at this moment.

    2. Kinect software is still evolving and some of its deficiencies (like lag) could improve in the future.

    3. The video that Psycho provided, shows what a random coder did in a short amount of time. Who’s to say that a full team of developers with Microsoft’s help behind them, over the course of a whole year, cannot do better?

    4. Could Move do better? Probably, as the technology supports it, but until someone actually tries to, is a moot point.

    5. Finally, in an ideal world, people would prefer to prove that their product is better by offering something solid rather than bad-mouthing their rival product.

    #26 3 years ago
  27. NiceFellow

    Well, I have both Move and Kinect and I reckon he’s 100% correct.

    If you want lightsabers and you want the optimal input device then Move (or Wii TBH) is definitely going to be better than Kinect.

    Kinect would probably be a bit better for Force gestures but I reckon the Eye could probably pick up an arm raise well enough to support Force gestures, too.

    But for swinging a lightsaber – Move is definitely the better input device.

    #27 3 years ago
  28. chipvideo

    This part is so fanbboyish.

    “There’s no way Kinect can do a good lightsaber game. Just never. Unless they give you a stick. If they give you a stick then they can do OK, but then they’re going to ruin their whole no controller motto.”

    So basically it comes down to the no controller moto. So if they get a stick it will be just as good or possibly better with kinect IMO. I would love to see a person with a move attatched to their feet hands and head.

    #28 3 years ago
  29. Gekidami

    It all boils down to one thing for me:

    Star Wars Kinect = On-rails.

    Star Wars Move = One hand light saber but full movement.

    Full movement wins all the time.

    #29 3 years ago
  30. OrbitMonkey

    A Stars War game using either Kinnect or Move could be great… Just so long as Lucas has no say in it other than to ok the use of the name Star Wars.

    #30 3 years ago
  31. Anders

    A Star Wars game with Kinect would just be the Kinect-mode in Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows: Part 1. A Move version could be pretty good though.

    #31 3 years ago
  32. DSB

    Nigga be trollin’.

    It’s not like either game is going to be any good.

    #32 3 years ago