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Reggie: No one would want Move when they have Wii

Wednesday, 17th March 2010 12:48 GMT By Johnny Cullen

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NoA president Reggie Fils-Aime has said there’s no point getting PlayStation Move if you have a Wii.

Speaking with Industry Gamers, he said:

“So I’m a consumer and I’m having a great experience with my Wii. And we know that’s the case – we look at the software that’s being purchased. Consumers love the Wii. What’s going to motivate them to spend minimally $300 for a new [PS3] system, plus minimally $100 for the Move motion bundle?

“So [as a consumer] now I’m into this for $400 and I still have to spend money on software. What’s going to motivate me to do that?”

That’s despite comments made last week by Fils-Aime, where he said he was “flattered” over what Sony was doing with the motion controller.

Move is due out in fall.

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115 Comments

  1. Razor

    Reggie’s getting a little mouthy lately isn’t he?

    #1 5 years ago
  2. runningman

    Quote “Having a great experience with my Wii”, well this may happen once a year when you actually publish something good.

    #2 5 years ago
  3. Droid

    Lol if people own a Wii as well as a PS3, I’m sure those owners won’t care about a “little” extra expense to buy Move. More money than sense.

    #3 5 years ago
  4. Hero of Canton

    He’s not really saying no-one would want it, more suggesting it’s unlikely to drive PS3 sales and that it’s perhaps too similar to Wii to make people migrate. Of course, those who already own a PS3 might well be tempted to splash out, but that’s another story.

    Natal’s quite a different proposition, which is why I imagine he’s not talked about it in the same way.

    #4 5 years ago
  5. daytripper

    his comments are very narrow minded, what if the PS3 Move has the better games? Not everyone wants a Mario/Zelda every year.

    #5 5 years ago
  6. ZarraN

    Don’t live in US but I guess that the Wii cost around 250$ and then you need to buy Wii fit for 100$.

    The Wii experience cost you around 350$

    And I believe that Sony will give out a all included bundle for around 350$ to match Wii.

    Price drop from Nintendo at E3???

    #6 5 years ago
  7. Robo_1

    You know what, the more I hear Reggie bad mouth Move, the more I think Nintendo could actually be rattled by it.

    You can’t dispute the maths he’s calling out, but the Wii’s motion abilities are pretty much all it’s got going for it. If people get a PS3 they also get a media hub, HD games console, online network, movie and tv rental/purchasing, Blu-Ray and Move coupled with PSEye is actually a far better motion solution than Nintendo have anyway.

    The PS3 is useful beyond being wheeled out as a party device every now and again, and I guess Sony are hoping people will see the PS3 as an all in one box, and dump the Wii for it.

    #7 5 years ago
  8. Tallon 4

    Maybe he is right. But folks who don’t own a console but do own a HDTV-set there aren’t anymore reason to buy a wii.

    #8 5 years ago
  9. Hero of Canton

    He’s not really bad-mouthing it, though, is he? Title and first sentence of the post are quite misleading.

    (Understandably so, as it’s a bit of a non-story otherwise. And getting hits is the name of the game.)

    #9 5 years ago
  10. Dr.Ghettoblaster

    ..unless they care about graphics..

    #10 5 years ago
  11. mojo

    wow. move seems to be realy good, seeing how much negitve talk is needed from the competitors..

    if i have learnt only one thing of the industry over my years as a gamer then its this: They lie!

    #11 5 years ago
  12. theevilaires

    I want MOVE and I don’t want Wii. :D I pass by them every time without ever being tempted. I have a PS2 and I enjoyed it very much last gen. Thank you very much Reggie.

    #12 5 years ago
  13. theevilaires

    Come to think of it….what if SONY made a PS2 MOVE version also. Could the PS2 have an extended 5 year life???

    #13 5 years ago
  14. OlderGamer

    I agree he isn’t bad mouthing Move.

    And I also agree with his thinking. I own a Wii and a PS3. I am not buying Move. I do enjoy the Wii, often. However it will never replace, in my mind, traditional gaming. Move, WiiMote, nor Natal. Those are just flashy gimmicks.

    I want perciese, dead on, pin point control. I want 16buttons and the ability to use them in combinations. I want duel analog sticks For my regular gaming I will stick with the XB360. Its online, it has the games I want to play, and it has the best controler ever made(opnion alert, yes that was my very own two cents).

    However one thing I do think some of you folks over state is the value of HD.

    I own a HD TV, most of us do. I use HD Cables for the Wii. It runs in 480p. Nope it isn’t 1080p, but it doesn’t have to be. Most of the nintendo games are plain and simple(but not in a bad way), we are talking WiiFit, Wii Sports, Super Mario, etc. They are colorful, and the screen is not crowded. Hard to explain, but it means that the simple presentation looks neat and crisp. Less is more. The Wii looks fine in 480p. The Wii games worth owning are made to run in 480sd/hd and that makes it good. If you tried to run BFBC2 in sd, you would have a problem. The screen would look too busey and stuff would look too small and condensed. the Wii doesn’t have that problem.

    I have no idea if Move will sell. I have a feeling that it won’t. I feel it is too expensive, and doesn’t do much to say I am not a Wii rip off.

    Time will tell.

    #14 5 years ago
  15. Robo_1

    In general though, he has been bad mouthing the Move. His previous comments of how he’s embarrassed to watch his competitors playing catch up in the motion control space, and his prior remarks saying:

    “I think the key question is, how will they respond when we continue to innovate if this is their best effort?”

    At the very least, he’s damning them with faint praise.

    #15 5 years ago
  16. theevilaires

    Wait until E3 before you make your final judgment O.G. if you think the Wii is a gimmick then why did you buy one….cause of your kids and wife? Maybe they will like MOVE better.

    #16 5 years ago
  17. Gheritt White

    @17: IMHO, X360 has the joint first best gamepad ever – it’s tied with the GameCube (that pad was stellar).

    @7: Couldn’t agree more. I can’t wait for Move and the prospect of having a BluRay player bundled as well is a nice bonus.

    @TEA: If you’re gonna capitalise Sony and Move every time you write it, why not add the appropriate ™, ® and © symbols as well?

    #17 5 years ago
  18. OlderGamer

    Maybe they will like Move, Tea, maybe they will. But Like Reggie said, they already have a Wii. And really its the wife, my kids are grown save for two, both of them teens. Needless to say they enjoy xb360/PS3.

    #18 5 years ago
  19. Blerk

    I really hated the shoulder buttons on the Cube pad, they were just nasty!

    #19 5 years ago
  20. JonFE

    The Wii has enjoyed stellar sales because of the wow factor, however, the deciding factor for Move will be the games.

    People will not be impressed by the gesture / motion controls alone for a second time, they will probably see it as a “me-too” gadget. So Move must impress them with the quality of its games.

    It will also be a non-standard PS3 controller, so developers / publishers will not be able to safely assume its install base (their potential customers) and invest accordingly. So, at first, 3rd parties will probably have it as a secondary / optional control scheme and not use it to its full potential (this is where 1st party support becomes crucial).

    #20 5 years ago
  21. ianbenoir

    Reggie should start wondering why the wii sells well, but wii games don’t (exept for some in particular).

    Also, we know the main reason for wii numbers is the motion controller, not graphics or great games or nextGen.

    I know Reggie is all about nintendo, but he might start to worry that Ps3 might take the place of “Wii HD”.
    And he should also consider a plastic surgery. That donkey kong look isn’t of any help.

    About sony, I don’t think they can’t make Move much cheaper.. but I believe that by the time its released they can make a new price cut for Ps3, and of course, bundles…

    #21 5 years ago
  22. theevilaires

    well if its just your wife who is mainly into the Wii then yea Reggie’s statement is half true. But I will have MOVE on day 1 (anyone surprised) and that cancels out his “No one” remark

    #22 5 years ago
  23. Hero of Canton

    But I think it’s telling that he’s not really directly referenced Natal. The thing with Move is that it’s almost identical to what Nintendo’s been doing for, what, three years now? A bit more precision isn’t going to sway the millions that bought into Wii to shelling out for Move. Hence the ‘imitation is the sincerest form of flattery’ comments and the wondering aloud where Sony goes when Nintendo does something new.

    #23 5 years ago
  24. Hero of Canton

    Reggie should star wondering why the wii sells well, but wii games don’t

    http://www.casualgaming.biz/news/29869/76-Wii-games-sell-over-1m

    #24 5 years ago
  25. Hero of Canton

    @TEA – Where exactly was his “no-one” remark?

    #25 5 years ago
  26. theevilaires

    @TEA: If you’re gonna capitalise Sony and Move every time you write it, why not add the appropriate ™, ® and © symbols as well?

    I don’t know, its just a habit I guess. I’m so use to seeing it that way on my bravias that I type it that way now. I do it for MOVE so people won’t get confused with the adjective.

    #26 5 years ago
  27. theevilaires

    @TEA – Where exactly was his “no-one” remark?

    I only read the headlines Hero. That’s why I may come off as hot headed in the comments most of the time. Blame Garratt, J.C, and Stephany for putting up misleading headlines.

    #27 5 years ago
  28. G1GAHURTZ

    @17:

    I agree that the 360 controller is the joint best controller, but with this one instead.

    Best Street Fighter pad I’ve ever had…

    #28 5 years ago
  29. Eregol

    Please note, he didn’t say anything about buying a PS3 without Move.
    I have nod esire to get Move at all. But I wouldn not be without my PS3.
    A Wii I can easily do without.
    There is one in the house, but it belongs to the fiance’s kids. I’d trade it in in a flash if I could.

    #29 5 years ago
  30. Redh3lix

    I’m fed up with shovelware on the Wii… if there’s some decent motion titles for the PS3 then I’m definitely up for it.

    #30 5 years ago
  31. spiderLAW

    I have Wii. I’d rather have PS Move. Zelda and Mario(including Smash Bros.) is enough for me to play my Wii twice a year at least.

    #31 5 years ago
  32. theevilaires

    If MOVE will have better precision than wii and people who are into the wii find out they may want to try and buy MOVE.

    the possibility is there. It will come down to marketing (which Sony will put a hell of a lot into) and price. The American economy is still shaky, you euros will buy it cause you have nothing else better to do over there and the Japs love PlayStation period so NATAL sorry buddy.

    #32 5 years ago
  33. DrDamn

    @17 & @28
    360 controller is exceptional (bar the d-pad). I’d put it joint with one of these babies though … Konix Speedking

    On a general point the PS3 has quite a lot to offer a Wii owning family. Aside from the HD graphics, Blu-ray player and more general media capabilities it also has a load of great games which you play with a regular gaming controller. Something the Wii is lacking. Absolutely a Wiimote being the standard controller was the right thing for the Wii at launch. It has hampered it somewhat for more regular gaming though.

    @OlderGamer
    I think you make a good point about Wii graphics being plain and simple (and not in a bad way). I’d agree it’s clean, it’s never crisp though. Blocky is more the word. It doesn’t help that 480p doesn’t fit so well with native resolutions of HD LCD TVs though.

    #33 5 years ago
  34. ianbenoir

    I insist: the problem with wii players is that they’re stuck with a last-gen console.

    I think ppl learned how to play with wii. Now they’ll go for Move or Natal, which is a natural improvement, at least if Nintendo don’t show up soon with a new console or start talking about it right away. Its the only way to make nintendo fans stay with them. I bet that by now they should alredy be thinking about getting a blu-ray player for their homes anyway…

    And you know what? That’s always been the problem with nintendo: They know how to make lot of success but never how to keep up.

    #34 5 years ago
  35. theevilaires

    Dualshock 3 is the best controller ever. Stop with this 360 pad bullshit.

    #35 5 years ago
  36. Hero of Canton

    I can guarantee you that not one Move game will be anywhere near as good as the best Wii game of this year.

    #36 5 years ago
  37. Blerk

    DS3 still has the left-stick in the wrong place and horrible triggers. It’s much weightier than the Sixaxis though, so that’s good. And the sticks seem better than the DS2.

    #37 5 years ago
  38. theevilaires

    Hero of Canton said: I can guarantee you that not one Move game will be anywhere near as good as the best Wii game of this year.

    I take you on that bet for a year xbox live sub.

    #38 5 years ago
  39. frod

    putting in convex triggers was a stupid idea as well. It’s not a very good controller really.

    #39 5 years ago
  40. theevilaires

    we need a pepsi and coke challenge with these damn controllers once and for all. All you people who love the 360 and scream Sony never changes the dualshock will see that next gen M$ wont change their controller either.

    I bet anyone here $1000 they won’t so stop with the Sony needs to change the Dualshock because it won’t ever happen because its the industries best for all genres.

    The 360 is not: FACT!

    #40 5 years ago
  41. frod

    that’s a strawman argument.

    #41 5 years ago
  42. Blerk

    DS3 is best for shooters? Really? Like, seriously really?

    #42 5 years ago
  43. redlander

    Move is due out to fail.

    #43 5 years ago
  44. theevilaires

    you pull your trigger(RT) and I’ll press my button(R1) and we’ll see who dies and who’ll be tea bagging who.

    and those RB and LB buttons are way worthless than the DS3′s R2 and L2

    #44 5 years ago
  45. Mike

    Move might be bought by current PS3 owners, but I very much doubt it’ll eat into Ninty’s market.

    So basically, Reggie’s right. Again.

    #45 5 years ago
  46. reask

    I mean cmon guys between the 2 of them there is little difference except for size.
    Press a on 360 press x on PS3 press triangle on PS3 press y on 360.
    I have found it quite easy to adapt to either as developers seem to use the same buttons for various actions.

    #46 5 years ago
  47. frod

    it’s quite easy to logically rubbish the DS3 design.

    When Sony first created the original Playstation controller they put the controls in the optimum position, like this:

    http://i42.tinypic.com/x3trn9.jpg

    Then, halfway through the PS1 generation they added analogue controls, mindful (and this is the crux of the matter) that the digital controls would still be the primary controls for all old games and for all gamers who didn’t invest in the dualshock:

    http://i44.tinypic.com/6jddnk.jpg

    It seems like at this point they had already sacked their ergonomic designers, because they then released basically the the same configuration in Dualshock 2.

    http://i42.tinypic.com/14obr7r.jpg

    Then, we can see a grain of common sense, albeit from what was clearly a work experience guy drafted in, with the infamous batarang. Notice that the digital controls are pushed outwards in favour of the analogue sticks, almost curving onto the top of the pad:

    http://i43.tinypic.com/ipxnqs.jpg

    But of course Sony couldn’t take the heat over this slightly unconventional controller design, even though it was a clear admission that the Dualshock layout had had its day, so we’re left with the DS3.

    #47 5 years ago
  48. The Hindle

    Cant we all just get along?

    #48 5 years ago
  49. theevilaires

    The fact that the 360 pad has triggers lets you know what the system is mainly about….shooters…and shitty ones at that (Shadow Run anyone)

    While the L2 and R2 are meant for racers like GT5, motorstorm, NFS. and the R1 and L1 are meant for FPS like COD and KZ2.

    360 d-pad….don’t make me laugh.

    #49 5 years ago
  50. DaMan

    yeah, I liked the Boomerang gamepad. thanks to all those pricks mocking it in 2005, they dropped it.

    #50 5 years ago
  51. theevilaires

    Frod I can’t be bothered to read your bullshit after your first picture link. Obviously you are too young and probably started gaming on a xbox system before you could realize true greatest that was the PS1 and PS2 controller designs that became the “INDUSTRY LEAD CONTROLLER”

    #51 5 years ago
  52. frod

    Hmm. I’m pretty sure that Sony have released more shooters than Microsoft in this generation. So that doesn’t hold water either.

    I don’t really think anyone is denying that the 360 d-pad sucks, but the point is that it’s only used in such a tiny minority of games that it almost doesn’t matter – which makes the positioning of the left analogue on the DS3 all the more baffling.

    #52 5 years ago
  53. frod

    and that’s an ad hominem argument.

    #53 5 years ago
  54. frod

    Just one final point, I’m fairly the design of the analogue triggers is more to do with ergonomics, i.e. comfort and ease of use, than trying to look like a gun trigger.

    It’s also worth noting that one of the Playstation magazines gave away concave triggers with their magazine once (Gioteck Real triggers I think?). Interesting that no-one has thought to sell convex trigger attachments for the 360 pad however.

    #54 5 years ago
  55. onyxbox

    reading this thread just makes me want to scream!

    both pads have their pros and cons.

    #55 5 years ago
  56. frod

    yes, I agree.

    #56 5 years ago
  57. DeSpiritusBellum

    I guess if you have a PS3, it could be a cool little novelty controller in case any of the entertaining Wii games make the jump.

    It just seems to me like it would be easier to buy a Wii and get the actual games that a controller like that was tailored for in the first place. I could see why Nintendo would be threatened by an HD console stealing their controller though, aside from queasy family games, that’s just about their biggest weakness.

    Either way, I’m not gonna be dancing and prancing in front of my TV any time soon.

    That’s my story and I’m sticking to it.

    #57 5 years ago
  58. Blerk

    Absolutely. There’s no such thing as the ‘perfect’ pad. Yet.

    #58 5 years ago
  59. JonFE

    “The fact that the 360 pad has triggers lets you know what the system is mainly about …shooters…”

    *cough*cough*bullshit*cough*cough*

    #59 5 years ago
  60. DrDamn

    @TEA
    Shadowrun was a great game – it was let down by lack of game modes/map for a full price game. Controls and balance wise it was a great game though.

    What makes the 360 controller great for shooters is nothing to do with buttons, it’s the sticks. Concave tops and perfect resistance.

    #60 5 years ago
  61. theevilaires

    Oh how I wish online multiplayer was cross platform. Please if Sony and M$ are reading this let one game become online cross platform play so I can wipe the floor with the people who think they have the better edge with that 360 pad.

    #61 5 years ago
  62. frod

    both pads work on PC…

    #62 5 years ago
  63. DrDamn

    You can get an adaptor to use a wired 360 controller on a PS3.

    #63 5 years ago
  64. frod

    but then you’d be a fool not to use the superior mouse controls :-D

    #64 5 years ago
  65. frod

    @63, that’s interesting I didn’t know that!

    Interesting that it’s the 360 controller on the PS3 and not the other way around ;-)

    #65 5 years ago
  66. DaMan

    360 triggers are awesome, DS3 has a decent d-pad though.

    they’re both okay overall, it’s a matter of preference.

    #66 5 years ago
  67. theevilaires

    didn’t you hear Frod The PS3 does EVERYTHING!

    #67 5 years ago
  68. Blerk

    Apart from ‘work on March 1st’, that is. :-D

    #68 5 years ago
  69. theevilaires

    I rather take 1 day over an entire holiday break any time of my life Blerk :D especially when I’m paying for it.

    #69 5 years ago
  70. Sini

    maybe because as you upgrade to hdtv(if one hasn’t already) wii looks like utter shit? 480p doesn’t cut it on large hdtvs.

    #70 5 years ago
  71. G1GAHURTZ

    This thread has made me laugh so much!

    #71 5 years ago
  72. DrDamn

    Cross Battle Adaptor to allow wired 360 controllers to work on a PS3 … link

    XConverter 360 to allow wire PS2 controllers to work on a 360 :-)link

    Lack of PS3 support is probably more related to the lack of a wired PS3 controller.

    #72 5 years ago
  73. theevilaires

    I challenge G1GA to a match with these cross Battle adaptors to settle this once and for all. COD4 match!

    #73 5 years ago
  74. G1GAHURTZ

    lol.

    Which one would I have to use?

    #74 5 years ago
  75. theevilaires

    It doesn’t matter, you have the set up to record also. I just want to finish this goddamn argument once and for all. I’m comfrontable with either the DS2 or DS3.

    #75 5 years ago
  76. cookiejar

    IMO, people who will buy this might not have a Wii, or use their PS3 more and will get this as well.

    Its hardly like buying a second console.
    No one is under the illusion (well, maybe Sony) that this is the ‘new’ Wii, its just Sony’s own offering in this market, an accessory if you will.

    It won’t sell like the Wii did, but im sure it will do very well for Sony, and will be a nice extra to have, same can be said for Natal with Microsoft.

    I think people, as usual, are blowing this thing totally out of proportion.

    #76 5 years ago
  77. elronathon

    Why does anyone need to defend any hardware ever against the acusations of anyone on the internet?

    None of this matters. In the purest sense this whole thread is useless.

    Enjoy yourselves, buy what you enjoy, sell what you don’t. You will not get a discount from Sony or Microsoft dependent on what you post online.

    #77 5 years ago
  78. G1GAHURTZ

    I don’t mind. I’m ok with both, too. Obviously, I had a PS1 and PS2…

    #78 5 years ago
  79. theevilaires

    Its not about that elronathon. its all in fun just so we can bust each other balls thats all. You think if G1GA beats me I’m going to be mad….hell no man. This is all just fun

    but seriously the DS3 is better :D

    #79 5 years ago
  80. elronathon

    Fine. Well we all know that the Dreamcast is king, everyone ripped it off. It had Shenmue 2, MvC2, Jet Set Radio and Power Stone.

    So there.

    #80 5 years ago
  81. Blerk

    Dreamcastlol! :-D

    #81 5 years ago
  82. elronathon

    I’m gonna punch you square in the chops.

    #82 5 years ago
  83. G1GAHURTZ

    DC pads were cheap and plastic-y with a little LCD screen in the middle for no apparant reason whatsoever.

    What was it supposed to be, some sort of tamagotchi??

    Wow, SEGA really did make the worst pads in the business.

    The worst pad ever HAS to be the Master System controller. Over time, the right and down direction seemed to merge into one single unusable mess.

    #83 5 years ago
  84. Blerk

    Jaguar pad says hi!

    #84 5 years ago
  85. G1GAHURTZ

    LOL!

    #85 5 years ago
  86. Blerk

    Jesus, I’d forgotten about that one!

    #86 5 years ago
  87. G1GAHURTZ

    Not sure I remember ever using a Jaguar pad.

    I might have wanted to make a phone call if I did, though…

    #87 5 years ago
  88. DaMan

    looking at that Saturn controller makes me sad :(. RIP.

    Sega really had trouble making a plausible gamepad until DC.

    #88 5 years ago
  89. elronathon

    If you take out the LCD you are dangerously close to an original Xbox pad :)

    #89 5 years ago
  90. spiderLAW

    Both 360 and PS3 gamepads are stellar. They both are really great controllers and it just depends on your own opinion on comfort. I can easily pick up my xbox360 controller and play with it without one complaint. I can easily pick up my DS3 and play with it without a single compaint.
    I am more comfortable playing with the PS3 controller though. Its a matter of opinion.

    As far as Move goes. If people would look into Move seriously, they will notice the complete advantage it has over the Wii remote. Clearly the Move setup is technologically better than the Wii….but in a casual market, simplicity and word of mouth seems to rule.

    #90 5 years ago
  91. elronathon

    @ spiderLAW: if you’re going to insist on being diplomatic you have no place on the internet :D

    #91 5 years ago
  92. spiderLAW

    how was i diplomatic? i dont really care what people think, it was my opinion on the matter. Isnt that the whole reason of blogging/commenting? correct me if im wrong

    #92 5 years ago
  93. spiderLAW

    i’ve only been posting here for 2days and im already getting tired of the people that react with superiority to comments others have made. Realize that these are all opinions on subjective material for fucks sake.

    #93 5 years ago
  94. elronathon

    It was a compliment, I consider being even-handed to be a good thing. The ‘no place on the internet’ comment was irony.

    #94 5 years ago
  95. spiderLAW

    SpiderLAW
    Spider = Spiderman fan
    LAW = for my last name Laidlaw

    #95 5 years ago
  96. spiderLAW

    ahahahahaha i totally missed that! its hard to understand sarcasm with typed words..Sorry budy!

    #96 5 years ago
  97. G1GAHURTZ

    LOL!

    I liked it when you got all defensive about being diplomatic!

    #97 5 years ago
  98. Michael O’Connor

    “Wow, SEGA really did make the worst pads in the business.”

    Please tell me this is a joke?

    The DC pad may have been a little plasticy, but its triggers were very much a precursor to the design of the Xbox controller.

    The Saturn D-Pad was straight up the best d-pad of any controller that’s ever been made. It was incredibly precise and fluid you actually *could* play fighting games with it, something that most other controllers sucked at.

    Also, that “shitty” controller you linked to was the first major analogue controller in mainstream gaming (if not the first analogue stick ever), well before the Dual Shock was released. It may have looked silly, but it felt *great* in your hands.

    Not to mention that the Mega Drive controller with its groves and curves was far more ergonomic than that brick that was the SNES controller.

    #98 5 years ago
  99. spiderLAW

    @ G1GAHURTZ
    Hahaha I know…. i laughed at myself too….hope nobody reads it *fingers crossed* LOL

    #99 5 years ago
  100. theevilaires

    O’Connor alert O’Connor alert!

    Anyways we have to get this game controller business settled once and for all. And after I beat G1GA I’m coming for the wii mote with the MOVE mote :D

    Let the best gaming controller win.

    #100 5 years ago
  101. Michael O’Connor

    “O’Connor alert O’Connor alert!”

    Sad thing is, I was just about to make a post defending something you said earlier in this thread. I’ll save my breath.

    #101 5 years ago
  102. theevilaires

    O’Connor I don’t need you to defend anything I say. I’m a veteran on this site and my word alone is bigger than anyone here whether I’m wrong or right.

    #102 5 years ago
  103. Michael O’Connor

    “I’m a veteran on this site and my word alone is bigger than anyone here whether I’m wrong or right.”

    Delusional, much?

    #103 5 years ago
  104. theevilaires

    I typed that knowing you would quote that troll

    predictable, much?

    #104 5 years ago
  105. Michael O’Connor

    Unoriginal, much?

    #105 5 years ago
  106. spiderLAW

    now the back and forth between TEA and O’Connor actually doesnt bug me, it actually is a reason to come back to this place. The conversations between them are usually good reads.

    #106 5 years ago
  107. G1GAHURTZ

    No joke, Michael.

    I’ve never liked a single SEGA pad.

    Like I said about the Master System pad, one of the worst things about them, which the 360 D-pad is also guilty of, is that there is almost no clear distinction between the 8 directions.

    I can’t tell you the amount of times I’ve been trying to walk forward with Sonic, only for him to crouch on the spot.

    The main flaw with this type of D-pad, as remains the case today, is that they’re rubbish for fighting games. There used to be a time when I used to judge a controller on how accurate it was for doing a fireball, which is practically the basis of most special moves in Street Fighter. SEGA pads were too imprecise for me. The last thing you want to do is lose a fight because you were charging back, then pressed down forward instead of forward and end up doing a medium punch instead of a sonic boom!

    Ninetndo’s pads, on the other hand, were excellent at this kind of stuff.

    SEGA even tried to rip Nintendo’s D-pad off, like Sony has basically done, with the DC controller, but the last time I picked one up it didn’t feel anywhere near as robust, to say the least.

    I never played with the Saturn Pad. Probably due to the amount of grief the Master System, Game Gear and MegaDrive had given me over the years…

    #107 5 years ago
  108. theevilaires

    O’Connor is no Psychotext, spider, so I don’t even bother to try as much.

    But on the topic of controllers the new 360 pad is clearly a rip off of the dreamcast pad done slightly better. Like I said before I’m all up for a showdown with the best gamer on this site who matches my skills in COD4 and I’ll be more than happy to take on Reas…..I mean G1GA :P any day with his 360 pad against the king DS3.

    #108 5 years ago
  109. G1GAHURTZ

    lol.

    Did the DC controller ever have a rumble pack add on?

    #109 5 years ago
  110. LordVonPunx

    uhh yah there is if you want High Def. duh..

    #110 5 years ago
  111. DaMan

    I really liked MD, spent as much time playing it as I did on PS 1 & 2. didn’t like the gamepad though, Nintendo had a better one I thought. wasn’t comfortable to hold it, X/Y/Z buttons were too small, and the d-pad wasn’t accurate. I later even bought myself an unofficial one.

    #111 5 years ago
  112. reask

    theevilaires said:

    You think if G1GA beats me I’m going to be mad….hell no man. This is all just fun

    And the first flinch goes to Tea. :D

    #112 5 years ago
  113. xino

    that’s what he says….

    seriously, hardcore titles on the Wii are having bad sales, why should developers keep making games for Wii when Move is the same and is in Next gen graphics to attract more users?

    #113 5 years ago
  114. theevilaires

    “And the first flinch goes to Tea. :D

    you haven’t seen me and G1GA play side by side before on PS3 COD4 Reask. I had G1GA on the edge of his seat a couple of times. Our first F4A match I won. The next two games I won again. So I know I can hold my own against him with no problem.

    He is known as this site COD fanatic but I can assure you there are better players than him here also….even me. Flinch??? ….no, I laugh at the chance to be face to face with him running around a virtual map trying to best him. Its an excitement I look forward to every time I play COD.

    #114 5 years ago
  115. Michael O’Connor

    “seriously, hardcore titles on the Wii are having bad sales, why should developers keep making games for Wii when Move is the same and is in Next gen graphics to attract more users?”

    Indeed. Move offers a great opportunity for us to see great titles that would have otherwise been sent to die on the Wii got some much deserved exposure on a core gaming console.

    Games like Lost Winds, Okami, MadWorld.

    I also hope to see the Move being used as an alternative control option in many new games (especially shooters) instead of simply seeing games that *require* it. I don’t know how easy the tech is to implement, but that sort of thing would go a long way towards getting the Move into the hands of the core gamers, and not just the casual audience.

    Example: Stuff like the new Sam and Max would be great with the Move. Imagine that… a point and click there you actually point and click once again! *laughs*

    #115 5 years ago

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