FFXIII is 50-60 hours long

Wednesday, 2nd December 2009 07:20 GMT By Patrick Garratt


FFXIII director Motomu Toriyama has told a mysterious Japanese magazine – we’re assuming it’s Famitsu – that his imminent RPG won’t be for the faint-hearted in terms of time-commitment.

“For XIII, the size of the entire game is considerable,” he said, as reported by Kotaku.

“Just running through the main story takes experienced players over 50 hours. For the first time, I think it’s possible to play through in full in about 60 hours or so.”

All you 10-hour namby pambies had better man-up, innit. The Japanese version’s out next week. Europe and America get it in March.



  1. Blerk

    Hmm. When they say ’50-60′ that usually means ’30-40′. Still lengthy, though.

    #1 5 years ago
  2. loki

    Very cool

    #2 5 years ago
  3. scratchy69

    But if that’s just for the main run-through you could be looking at double that to do everything. I easily cracked 100 hours on XII and that was about 90-95% completion.

    More is not necesarilly better though. You could pretty much wring every drop of gameplay out of IX in 30-odd hours and it’s still one of the best in the series.

    #3 5 years ago
  4. Blerk

    I totally agree. I’d much rather they left out the ‘padding’ and made a shorter but more interesting game.

    #4 5 years ago
  5. Phoenixblight

    When the Japanese say 60 hours they mean 60 hours not like how the western developers say 60 hours and they mean doing everything very slowly.


    I disagree FFIX was good but was not the best for me that would easily be between 6,7,8, 10. All of them gave me over 100 hours of gameplay.

    #5 5 years ago
  6. Quiiick

    IT’s an RPG. It’s a JRPG. It’s Final Fantasy.
    F I N A L F A N T A S Y !!!
    It’s supposed to be long!

    #6 5 years ago
  7. Blerk

    When the Japanese say 60 hours they mean 30 hours of game and 30 hours of backtracking/wandering around lost/teleporter mazes/pointless conversations with NPCs/unskippable summon animations/angry young men saying “…”.

    That is part of the charm, I suppose. :-D

    #7 5 years ago
  8. Phoenixblight

    Thats how I like my RPGs, my favorite RPGs of all time are those one of them being Digital Devil Saga.

    ANd if you don’t like that Blerk, there is a thing called a guide and the summons length on animations always have had options since FF7 to cut them short.

    #8 5 years ago
  9. Blerk

    I’m just messing. :-D

    I actually wish FF would take a few hints from the various Megaten games. They always feel far less waffly than Final Fantasy does (although they do still occasionally like their teleporter mazes, curse them).

    #9 5 years ago
  10. Phoenixblight

    Yeah the infamous Tower dungeons.


    You know its not just the length of the game that makes it so much better but the story. The best stories were that of Final Fantasy. I can not honestly remember a RPG that made me dumbfounded by the twists FFX with TIdus, FF7 with Aerith and with Cloud and his memories, FF8 with Rinoa. THose were pretty epic twists.

    #10 5 years ago
  11. Hunam

    You need to play more RPG’s dude :P

    FF8′s story is woeful, and I don’t think much of 10′s story either though I love the characters.

    #11 5 years ago
  12. Blerk

    I much prefer Megaten stories, too.

    #12 5 years ago
  13. Hunam

    I still think FF7 is a stand out story in the RPG genre. Aside from the end you aren’t saving the world from impending doom, you are just chasing your personal goals which I thought was great and for some reason seems to be generally an ignored story technique. Same with Planescape: Torment too, no world saving going on there.

    Persona 3′s story is pretty amazing though, mostly because of the TV show style aspect to it, each month in game being like an episode in a long arc sowing a subtle story with a nice big finish.

    #13 5 years ago
  14. RomaTotti10

    If the main game turns out to be about 40 hours long than that will live up to my expectations. Hopefully after some time they will also release some DLC with an additional 20 hours of gameplay.

    #14 5 years ago
  15. Blerk

    I’d agree about VII’s story. I don’t think Square successfully recaptured that in any of the games that followed. I think Persona 3 still edges out even VII, though. Such an amazing game.

    #15 5 years ago
  16. Hunam


    #16 5 years ago
  17. Blerk

    I liked Yukari, but I could never have cheated on Chihiro.

    #17 5 years ago
  18. Hunam

    Isn’t she the one scared of men? That says something rather suspicious about you Blerk.

    #18 5 years ago
  19. Johnny Cullen

    Persona 4 > all, innit.

    #19 5 years ago
  20. Hunam

    Persona 3 is better than 4.

    #20 5 years ago
  21. Blerk

    Yes, she’s the bookish one with the glasses.

    /googles for pictures of bookish ladies with glasses
    /to protect

    #21 5 years ago
  22. Hunam

    You just enjoy feeding off the sexual fear of women and you know it.

    #22 5 years ago
  23. Phoenixblight


    I have played quite a bit of RPGs. Not saying FF8 was the best but it was the most memorable not the overall impending doom from Ultimecia but the CHaracter develope and the relationship that developed between Squall and Rinoa.

    I have never played Persona 3 but that is because isn’t it tied to the previous series or is it just like FF with it just being a name?

    #23 5 years ago
  24. Blerk

    Forget Final Fantasy and play Persona 3 (preferably the FES edition) right now, Phoenix. You don’t need to have played any of the other Persona games and if you’ve played DDS then you’ll already be in good stead for the battle system.

    Just leave Chihiro alone or we’ll have a problem. Right?

    /cracks knuckles

    #24 5 years ago
  25. Phoenixblight

    I would but Ps2 on HD tv looks like crap. Its why I have an untouched library of PS2 games because of the Ps2 having the inability to play on HD tv.

    #25 5 years ago
  26. DaMan

    @Hunam ” Aside from the end you aren’t saving the world from impending doom, you are just chasing your personal goals which I thought was great and for some reason seems to be generally an ignored story technique. ”

    have you guys played anything aside from FF or Atlus games, seriously? Chrono Trigger, Xenogears, Chrono Cross, the first two Suikodens and Shadow Hearts. just to name a few.

    #26 5 years ago
  27. Phoenixblight

    I have. I have played all of those. Vagrant Story is one of my top ten with Chrono Trigger. I didn’t want to name those because its the same company and even some of the same designers. THe original creator of FF did Vagrant Story and Kitase (who is doing FFXIII) started with Chrono Trigger.

    #27 5 years ago
  28. Hunam

    I’ve played and completed all the games you mention except for Suikoden as I watched a mate play a whole bunch of it and didn’t really seem my thing.

    You failed to mention Xenosaga though, which annihilates Xenogears tbh.

    #28 5 years ago
  29. Hunam

    Oh, and what’s wrong with Atlus games? If I could only have games from one publisher Atlus would be a decent bet to keep me busy forever.

    #29 5 years ago
  30. DaMan

    well, I don’t quite see how is that ‘generally ignored’ then. I mean, more like most of the jrpgs were crap even in the 90s.

    Xenosaga was awful I thought. they’ve butchered pretty much everything that made Xg so good. the first episode was somewhat decent for a ‘prologue’ but it went just completely downhill with the second game. was a nice idea though, I’d say it ‘could’ve annihilate’ the original Xg if it was made right.

    Edit: nothing is wrong with them, but I wouldn’t put them alongside old Square classics. they also lack a decent combat system imho.

    #30 5 years ago
  31. Eregol

    50-60 hours?
    I’d say 60 hours if you do all the extras.
    If I take my time as I normally do I reckon I’d break the 50 hour mark without doing all optionable extras.

    #31 5 years ago
  32. zoopdeloop

    expect 40-50 hours maximum…sidequests included

    #32 5 years ago
  33. Hunam

    The second one was a bit crap, the third was was megarockets of fun.

    Still, in most of the games you mention you are out and out saving the world after the first 10 minutes or stopping wars of something like that.

    #33 5 years ago
  34. DaMan

    they did manage to partially ‘get it’ in the third, but it was too little too late imho.

    how so? I might as well say that you’re up against the Evil Corpration and Sephi almost right from the beginning.

    you practically don’t even do that at all in CC, Xg plot was nothing about saving the world up until the final Deus appearance, the game is like 60% about Fei and Elly btw. Shadow Hearts was nothing like that as well, especially the first game. CT does that only in the very end as well.

    #34 5 years ago
  35. Hunam

    But you’re not trying to stop Sephi because you don’t even know he’s alive till a fair chunk of the game and you aren’t even going after Shinra for anything more than because there isn’t much else to do other than casual terrorism.

    In XG there is a giant War going on almost from the offset which is being fuelled by those nasty folks you in turn punch in the face. CT has Lavos from a pretty early stage, CC you’re probably right on, I can’t remember much of that game to be honest. Shadow Hearts has a wizzard trying to use your ladyfriend to summon a god to destroy the world.

    I think the problem with Xenosaga for most people is that it wasn’t trying to be any part of Xenogears, it was using XG as a reference point and telling a new, and more awesome, yarn.

    #35 5 years ago
  36. DaMan

    I don’t quite see how Avalanche clearly being against a huge evil Corporation that’s slowly ruining our planet and Cloud realizing he should care about the stuff as well is one thing , and Xg having a background war or Lavos appearing in the second half of CT is another.. that’s just biased to be honest.

    Shadow Hearts did that very subtly, comparable to say FF7 actually. and the plot also had more than enough other stuff, like Yuri’s character development or that female officer side story.

    #36 5 years ago
  37. Michael O’Connor

    “I don’t quite see how Avalanche clearly being against a huge evil Corporation that’s slowly ruining our planet is one thing and Cloud realising he should care about the stuff as well.”

    Not to mention the whole “Sephiroth summoning a giant meteor to damage the planet in order to help him become a god” thing.

    Anyway, Disgaea owns all of you.

    #37 5 years ago
  38. The Hindle

    Anyway valkryia chronicles owns Disgaea, that game was Japanese gaming at its best

    #38 5 years ago
  39. Hunam

    Maybe you’re right DaMan, not about FF7, the world never felt in danger in that till the end but with the others they all have war in them as an aspect (not the Chrono games mind) so from the onset everything looked a little fucked from the get go. I know Shinra were eating the planet, but that’s no more fucked than our world is right now and I’m not diving for cover yet.

    Michael, you’ll notice reading the thread that I mentioned right away about the world being in peril at the end of FF7, but it litteraly starts up right at the end.

    #39 5 years ago
  40. Michael O’Connor

    And Shin Megami Tensei 3 owns Valkyria Chronicles. Screw Persona 3, SMT 3 is the defining game of the entire franchise.

    #40 5 years ago
  41. DaMan

    @ Hunam well, I see what you mean. but to be honest Fei’s personality was way more fucked than the continent of Ingas xD. I mean, the two protagonists’ character development was the central point, the war was a background really.

    #41 5 years ago
  42. Blerk

    Ooh, I have to disagree there. I really liked SMT3 but DDS kicked its arse and Persona 3 dropped a piano on both of them while they were scrapping. :-)

    #42 5 years ago
  43. Hunam

    I never got that far into SMT3 to be honest. DDS got me really into the megaten gameplay and Persona 3, or about 42 hours into I should say is when it just clicked with me and I learned every nuance of the battle system and learned how to use the fusion system. I bet I could go back and get a lot more out of SMT3 and DDS now I know how everything works underneath the gameplay.

    What’s really turning me of Persona 4 is that the overworld is a little more drab and down to earth compared to 3 and whilst yes, having control of your team is much better in gameplay it sacrifices other aspects, like mastering the fusion gameplay because now you only really need one or two top line persona’s where in P3 you needed a team that could do everything but at the same time you got to know how the AI reacts with your team mates and you start to grow a bond of trust with them, praising them when they get a timely heal or cursing them when they let you get your ass kicked. Plus I prefer having one big tower vs little dungeons.

    #43 5 years ago
  44. Johnny Cullen

    “And Shin Megami Tensei 3 owns Valkyria Chronicles.”


    I’m sorry, but nothing can be better then VC. It’s automatically better then any other RPG in the past two years.

    #44 5 years ago
  45. Hunam

    VC is about as much RPG as Bioshock is.

    #45 5 years ago
  46. The Hindle

    Indeed it is, VC is an RPG btw as if you dont level your squad up you will not get anywhere in that game.

    #46 5 years ago
  47. Michael O’Connor

    I find it a stretch to call Valkyria Chronicles an RPG. It’s an amazing game, don’t get me wrong, but it’s very much a strategy game with some (very, very light) RPG elements added on top.

    Shin Megami Tensei 3 is, and probably will be for a very long, on my favourite RPGs of all time. From a pure gameplay perspective, it kicks every other title in the series out of the water.

    The system is balanced perfectly. While playing well has always been a requirement of the franchise, Shim Megami Tensei 3 is such that when you die, it’s entirely your own fault. Its challenging and its hard but it’s never unfairly so. Persona and Digital Devil Saga are challenging, but SMT3 would spit them on the floor for breakfast.

    Aesthetically and story-wise, the game is a work of art. It’s story is muted but compelling with lots of layers for those who appreciate the underlying mythological and religious elements, and is willing to explore them. Elements which are largely just tacked on in the later games with little or no relevance to the actual mythos of the game’s story.

    The later games also got far too wrapped up in their teen angst, school girl outfits and other such generic RPG cliches for me to be able to take them seriously or maturely.

    #47 5 years ago
  48. Hunam

    I didn’t feel the occult aspect was tacked on in Persona 3 but I can understand if the school drama thing doesn’t appeal to you as I guess it’s just a matter of taste. But when I was a young teenager I was a big fan of Buffy which again is another school based occult fest (obviously less researched than Persona) but obviously not a game.

    Did you finish Persona 3? Because it also has a muted story through a lot of it. There is always something going on in the foreground, but the story which is culminates at the end is basically built up through the 70 hours it takes to get to the final chapter in a slow and stirring way and you get more out of it the more you put into it.

    I will get back to SMT3 one day, probably after I’ve done Persona 4 and Persona 1 PSP (and maybe Persona 3 PSP if that’s out before I’ve done the other two) but Persona 3 was the game that I ‘got’ the most.

    #48 5 years ago
  49. Phoenixblight

    You mention Persona 3 for the PSP is that the same one that was on the PS2? If so thats another reason to get a PSP.

    #49 5 years ago
  50. Hunam

    Unfortunately it’s not the exact same game per se, I think the dungeon crawling is exactly the same, but then school/overworld stuff is now all 2D screens and you just go from screen to screen with a cursor to talk to people.

    Bit gutted about that change to be honest.

    #50 5 years ago
  51. Hunam

    #51 5 years ago
  52. Phoenixblight

    I can get over the graphic changes after all I still play Chrono Trigger (Have the PSOne version) but is the overall story still the same or did they change that too?

    #52 5 years ago
  53. Hunam

    The actual story is the same, but this time has both a male and female option for the Player Character.

    I will miss wondering around the town though. Mechanically it does the same thing as the PS2 version, but it wont have the same joy of strolling around talking to folks you spot. Mostly though it is an odd change as there is nothing in P3 that the PSP couldn’t do both in terms of grunt and storage.

    #53 5 years ago
  54. Phoenixblight

    I would gladly play the original but as stated the PS2 just can’t play on HD. I have attempted it once and it just looked god awful. FFX looked like I was playing FF7. Something like this with P3 on the PSP, I guess will do. I wish I never got rid of my 32 inch Standard Def TV.

    #54 5 years ago
  55. Hunam

    I know what you mean, I ended up buying a cheapish 15″ TV that i’ve got the Wii and PS2 plugged into in my bedroom.

    #55 5 years ago
  56. Jadeskye

    Persona 4 is awesome. the only game i’ve ever pulled my PS2 out of storage for.

    60 hours for ff13. i’d be pleasently surprised. i can usually breeze an ff game in 40 hours or so.

    #56 5 years ago

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