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UK charts: DJ Hero bombs as FM2010 hits No. 1

Monday, 2nd November 2009 10:07 GMT By Johnny Cullen

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Do you hear that? That is the sound of panic at Activision UK this morning, as the latest UK charts released this morning has shown that DJ Hero has failed to enter the top ten of the all formats UK charts. The game actually entered at 20.

Meanwhile, Football Manager 2010 has entered the charts as the new No. 1, taking over from PES 2010, which drops down to five. The top three is rounded off by Wii Fit Plus and FIFA 10 at two and three respectively.

Grand Theft Auto: Episodes from Liberty City debuts at six and Tekken 6 at eight. Find the top ten below. Last weeks data is here.

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  1. Suikoden Fan

    good maybe activision will stop bringing out music games all the fucking time.

    #1 5 years ago
  2. Gheritt White

    Actilollapalooza

    #2 5 years ago
  3. Blerk

    Wow, look at Football Manager go! I really thought it’d be Wii Fit Plus this week.

    #3 5 years ago
  4. G1GAHURTZ

    Told you Uncharted 2 had peaked, didn’t I???

    It’s got a Metacritic of 96, but it’s number 4 in the PS3 charts already…

    #4 5 years ago
  5. Blerk

    To be fair, there aren’t many games which can sit happily at the top of the charts for weeks on end – especially single-format ones.

    #5 5 years ago
  6. Jackrock

    For a game so expensive, number 20 in the charts is not really negative. The reviews are good, so maybe this game gets a chance in my console.

    #6 5 years ago
  7. G1GAHURTZ

    I disagree.

    It’s only been out 3 weeks, having only managed 1 week at number 1.

    I’m pretty sure that MW2 will manage more than 1 week at number 1 in the PS3 charts…

    Also bear in mind that CoD4 (still full price nearly 2 years on) is number 14, having been number 13 last week.

    #7 5 years ago
  8. Dannybuoy

    I am the target demographic for this game. Pretty decent deck skills, liking of hip hop, PS3 owner and decent disposable income. So why haven’t I bought it? Because it looks shit. I have no interest in using a pretend deck and pushing buttons.. I can use, you know, my real decks for far superior enjoyment.

    #8 5 years ago
  9. Blerk

    COD is a multi-platform FPS, though. It’s ingrained in the public consciousness as a ‘no-brainer’ purchase. Uncharted is single-platform, third-person and relatively new. It’s also fantasy-based rather than military and therefore a much harder sell. I really don’t see how it’s done ‘badly’.

    #9 5 years ago
  10. Psychotext

    Apparently it’s already sold better than the first game. Though what that means I don’t know. That said, if there was any sort of justice, a game with those sorts of review scores should be spending considerably longer in the top ten than it did.

    #10 5 years ago
  11. Bojangles

    At this time of year there won’t be many games sitting at the top of the charts for a long stretch (with the exception of Wii Fit). The seasonal software blitz is upon us with dozens of games being released each week. Week 1 sales are typically the strongest (again, with Nintendo evergreen titles being the exception) with a top-10 fall off accelerated by the influx of seasonal new releases.

    That’s not even factoring the whole single-platform / multi-platform differences that’ll boost already high-profile releases like FIFA and MW2 in these sort of charts.

    But it’s just numbers. And numbers can be presented in such a way as to tell whatever story a person sees fit.

    As for DJ Hero – not my bag. But I suspect it’ll be a slow-burner with a reasonably extended period of sales which’ll then be propped up by plenty of DLC. A title positioned like that isn’t dependent on its week 1 sales.

    #11 5 years ago
  12. G1GAHURTZ

    I didn’t say anything about it doing “‘badly’”. I just think that it’s peaked. It’s on it’s long tail and fading fast, just like LBP.

    As for it being a single platform, relatively new (even though it’s a sequel to one of the PS3′s best selling games), fantasy based TPS, then I don’t see why that should make any difference, tbh.

    In fact, if anything, it should have a bigger chance of doing well, because of its exclusivity and the focus that Sony are putting on it.

    #12 5 years ago
  13. El_MUERkO

    i dont know what acti were thinking releasing it in October, DJ Hero has ‘christmas present’ written all over it, mid november release at the earliest

    #13 5 years ago
  14. Gekidami

    Uncharted 2 is fith in the French charts. DJ Hero isnt in the top 5 (dosnt seem to show abything other then the first 5).

    #14 5 years ago
  15. deftangel

    The game isn’t going to set the charts alight not because it’s any good (reviews have been decent-ish) it’s because;-

    a) It’s pretty expensive
    b) Nobody has even seen anyone “Air DJ”

    Guitar Hero became popular because a huge number of people can relate to playing a guitar. The band set up made that experience much more social. There will undoubtedly be a viable market of people interested in a game like DJ Hero, it’s just a question of how much smaller it is.

    I’m wagering a lot smaller than Activision reckons. They’re intentions are to turn this into another annualised money spinning franchise on par with the Band games but I really don’t see how they’re comparable.

    #15 5 years ago
  16. DrDamn

    @G1GA
    You aren’t half talking a load of crap about Uncharted 2. Peaked? Of course it peaked, just about every big game peaks on their first week.

    CoD4 peaked on it’s first week. So will MW2. What is your point?

    #16 5 years ago
  17. G1GAHURTZ

    b) Nobody has even seen anyone “Air DJ”

    Actually, I do that all the time!

    #17 5 years ago
  18. G1GAHURTZ

    My point is that it’s on its way down after 1 single week of being the top selling game.

    That means that from now on, it’s going to have a lower position in the charts each week than it had the week before until it fades into obscurity.

    A game that didn’t get a single score less than 9 out of 95 reviews is being passed over by potential consumers.

    As I said before, see how many weeks MW2 will be number 1 in each of the all formats, PS3 and 360 charts and you’ll see exactly what I mean.

    #18 5 years ago
  19. DrDamn

    The same applies to the vast majority of games though. What is the point in predicting that and being smug when it happens?

    “That means that from now on, it’s going to have a lower position in the charts each week than it had the week before.”

    No – no it doesn’t mean that at all.

    #19 5 years ago
  20. DrDamn

    @G1GA
    “A game that didn’t get a single score less than 9 out of 95 reviews is being passed over by potential consumers.”

    It really doesn’t matter as long as it sells enough. I don’t want to only play games which get great reviews and go on to sell 10m+. It is a very good thing that people can and do make fantastic games which don’t sell gazillions.

    #20 5 years ago
  21. G1GAHURTZ

    Not many games get nothing less than a score of 9 from 95 different reviews either though, do they?

    This is an award winning, game and one of the biggest releases of the year we’re talking about here…

    No – no it doesn’t mean that at all.

    That’s just what I intended it to mean.

    #21 5 years ago
  22. JonFE

    The music game genre is over-saturated and even though DJ Hero is fresh, it doesn’t have the instant appeal of the air-guitar crowd (which happens to be wider than just rockers or metalheads).

    More over, I feel that customers are a bit tired of big proprietary plastic controllers. I’d hazard a guess that the Tony Hawk will not do well in retail as well…

    EDIT: Either that or what deftangel said :)

    #22 5 years ago
  23. G1GAHURTZ

    It is a very good thing that people can and do make fantastic games which don’t sell gazillions.

    Why?

    Surely an excellently developed game should be rewarded by excellent sales? Shouldn’t the people who put the hard work into this game be appreciated by gamers?

    #23 5 years ago
  24. DrDamn

    @G1GA
    “That’s just what I intended it to mean.”

    Is that what you think happened to LBP too?

    “Why?”

    Because if you just have games which are mega-sellers you are limiting the scope massively. For example Demons Souls – fantastic game, game of the generation for me – will it ever sell very well? No. Is it a great thing it got made? Hell yes.

    Would you like the only TV to be made to be that which is guaranteed to pull in 15m+ viewers? It would be wall-to-wall Strictly X-Factor Come Dancing on Ice. Whilst I appreciate the programmes have their merits I want variety.

    Bottom line – sales are not a measure of quality. I want quality gaming not just what everyone else wants to play.

    #24 5 years ago
  25. Bojangles

    I would rather watch “Moon” than “Transformers 2″.

    #25 5 years ago
  26. pracer

    Sales are a indeed a measure of quality. How ever so is a high Meta score. The difference, really, is in whos eyes is the quality beheld? I can list a long list of movies that I wouldn’t walk across the street to watch, yet critics loved them. The same can be said for more then a few video games. Because reviewers liked the game and gamers didn’t eat it up off of the shelf can tell us that perhaps gamers(en mass) and said critics are simply looking for different “qualities” in the same game.

    Plus quality doesn’t always mean “Fun”.

    I play and enjoy a lot of games that never get higher then 5 or 6 on the meta scale(or in general reviews b4 there was a meta). The reason is that said games are simply fun to play.

    As far as UC2, I told you folks it was overrated to begin with. The hype, I feel was driven by over promotion on Sony’s part. And I do think that that “get the game out there” push from Sony influenced reviews. Its the same type of thing with Gears and Halo. The difference is that games like Gears and Halo are going to cause people to pick the box up off of the shelf far more then something like UC2. Its that fun factor. Thats not to say UC2 fans aren’t having fun. But it is to say that most gamers aren’t going to have fun with UC2. Or, worse, don’t THINK they would have fun with it, and pass it over to begin with.
    UC2 is a good game. I have no interest in playing it after trying the demo/beta. Maybe other folks felt the same. Maybe it just shows the limited sale potential of a PS3 exclusive at this point in its consoles lifespan. If I recall LBP met a similar fate. That game has had a long tial it would seem. Longer then I suspect UC2 will have, but maybe not.

    #26 5 years ago
  27. rainer

    Rejoice! activision bombs at last.

    #27 5 years ago
  28. DrDamn

    @Pracer
    “Sales are a indeed a measure of quality.”

    Sales are a measure of popularity – not quality. Popularity =/= quality.

    You are basing a hell of a lot of your opinion of U2 off the demo – which was limited to MP. I didn’t really rate the first game, it was driven more by the graphics than the gameplay. Having very nearly completed U2 and played a fair bit of the MP I think you are talking out of your arse ;P.

    It improves on the original in a massive number of ways. Important ways like control, variety, fun and core gameplay. It is a much better and more rounded game and absolutely not overrated. It might not be for everyone – no game is – but it is fully deserving of the review scores from people who have actually played the game.

    #28 5 years ago
  29. Gekidami

    “Sales are a indeed a measure of quality.”

    If there was an award for the most retarded comment this would win.

    #29 5 years ago
  30. G1GAHURTZ

    Is that what you think happened to LBP too?

    That’s exactly what happened. It ended up with retailers resorting to dropping the price of the game down to £10-15, and it still didn’t seem to give it much of a chart boost, if any at all.

    #30 5 years ago
  31. Syrok

    “That’s exactly what happened. It ended up with retailers resorting to dropping the price of the game down to £10-15, and it still didn’t seem to give it much of a chart boost, if any at all.”

    It’s still pops up in the Charts every now and then though. ;)

    #31 5 years ago
  32. The Hindle

    Uncharted 2 so far has sold 1.2m copies how is that bad sales may i ask. Christmas is coming up soon so its bound to see a resurgence as well. If a game does a million i see that as good.

    #32 5 years ago
  33. DrDamn

    @G1GA
    It hung around the top 40 for a significant amount of time and went up as well as down. So by your own definition – no that isn’t exactly what happened.

    #33 5 years ago
  34. The Hindle

    Total sales for Littlebigplanet according to Vg charts are 2 and a half million. If thats true thats fair impressive.

    #34 5 years ago
  35. DrDamn

    @The Hindle
    There you go bringing irrelevant things like actual sales figures into the mix. It’s all about chart position – nothing to do with sales. A game which launched in April and stays at number one for 3 weeks selling 100k each week is much better than one which launches at this time of year and only spends a week at number one selling a piffling 800k.

    Just in case there was any doubt … /sarcasm :)

    #35 5 years ago
  36. Dralen

    Haha best news I heard all day.

    #36 5 years ago
  37. DrDamn

    Case in point this weeks chart …

    http://www.mcvuk.com/retail-biz/charts

    LittleBigPlant number 38 Re-Entry :D

    #37 5 years ago
  38. Gekidami

    “It’s all about chart position – nothing to do with sales.”

    You mean UK charts, because its totally irrelevant how the games selling around the world.

    #38 5 years ago
  39. The Hindle

    Dr Dam

    Lol which game are you on about. I just find it amazing that people can turn sales figures and chart positions into a dig on a console. Thats the point im trying to get across.

    #39 5 years ago
  40. DrDamn

    @Gekidami
    Oh no. By looking at UK charts we can determine everything we need to back up our predetermined point of view. We can also usefully overlook how much better U2 is doing than U1 did in the US at launch as that helps our argument too.

    /sarcasm is still on ;)

    #40 5 years ago
  41. DrDamn

    @The Hindle
    Having a discussion with G1GA mainly about Uncharted 2 and what it disappearing from the UK top ten actually means. He predicted it would drop out of the top ten last week – I think he may have special psychic powers … what are the Lottery numbers this week G1GA? ;)

    #41 5 years ago
  42. The Hindle

    Ahh i see DrDamn. Uc 2 has sold way better the first game has, isnt that a good thing people.

    #42 5 years ago
  43. No_PUDding

    A great game deserves to sell like this game did. Two weeks in the Top 10 is absolutely great.

    But Let’s not pretend that MW2 will sell becuase it’s a great game. It will sell regardless of it being a great game, which is the difference between the two.

    One is a massive entertainment event, the other is not. The event, requires the stars to align (they were, with a PS3 price drop), for there to be a big ad campaign (there wasn’t, thoguh it was better) and for the brand to have an established name (which only comes from quality sequel iteration).

    #43 5 years ago
  44. DrDamn

    Yep. Uncharted 2 first week sales were about 6x the first week sales of U1 (worldwide). In the US it was more than 12x.

    #44 5 years ago
  45. DrDamn

    @No_PUDding
    MW2 will sell because MW1 was a great game – lets not mess about. All the indicators are pointing to them pulling it off again too.

    On the flipside, in my opinion U2 has sold what it has in spite of U1 being not as good as review scores suggested. The difference being not just that U2 has had universally better scores, but that it is worthy of them too.

    #45 5 years ago
  46. No_PUDding

    I completely agree, but as I said MW2 won’t sell becuase it’s a great game. It will sell regardless of it.

    As for Uncharted, your opinion on the series is pretty much irrelevant. Mainly becuase there aren’t many opinions on it, it didn’t sell enough! Unintentionally so, the game acted as part of an iterative process, not a strong foundation for the series.

    #46 5 years ago
  47. theevilaires

    wow G1GA you have a PS3 and UC2 is surely to get GOTY, but you still haven’t picked it up. What’s the matter afraid you might help the odds that it will beat your precious MW2 for the award?

    #47 5 years ago
  48. G1GAHURTZ

    @ DD:

    Hehe… No idea what the lottery numbers will be… It’s a complete waste of money anyway!

    OK, so LBP is a re-entry into the charts, so it doesn’t fit my definition at all, but my overall point is that neither of the games (U2 and LBP) are as consistantly high sellers as I would have expected based on their review scores and general gamer opinions of them.

    I’ve just been noticing that this seems to be a consistant theme with almost every PS3 exclusive yet released. I was wondering if U2 would be the first to break the mould, because of the new Slim and the price drop, but it doesn’t look like it so far.

    Lets face it, I’m not expecting MW2 to get a Metacritic score higher than 96, but I am expecting it to stay in the top two in the charts all the way through to mid January at the very least. That’s with all of the other big games coming out in the run up to xmas, and that’s with the higher price and the boycotting from PC gamers too.

    There’s your next prediction right there…

    #48 5 years ago
  49. theevilaires

    I’m expecting it to snow in winter also G1GA

    #49 5 years ago
  50. G1GAHURTZ

    @ tea:

    lol. Nah, the real reason that I haven’t bought it just that it simply doesn’t look like my kind of game, tbh.

    I see the reviews, and I hear the praise, but I’m just not convinced. The mp beta didn;t do much for me either. I can totally see that people are loving this game and it’s like, their best gaming experience so far, but it’s one that I probably wouldn’t buy until I played it to see how much I like it first…

    #50 5 years ago
  51. theevilaires

    wait a sec you mean to tell me you’ve gotten this far into gaming ever since the days of atari or snes and you never enjoyed 3rd person action games. huh?

    So I guess you got your hands on Goldeneye64 and said to yourself, never again will I touch another genre. Lol, ok man if you say so, but you are missing out on what almost every gamer has always wanted videos games to be like.

    #51 5 years ago
  52. No_PUDding

    TEA, it’s the remainder of the fanboy in him.

    Which is fine. I’d be lying if I said I ever wanted to pick up a Gears of War game.

    You hear all the hype, you see all the unecesary jizzing (it’s defintely happening with Uncharted 2) and you get put off, not only as a skeptic but as a fanboy.

    Becuase the hype literally is unjustifiable.

    #52 5 years ago
  53. DrDamn

    I think there is a key step in games which appeal and sell to core gamers and those which will sell to a wider audience. I think you are being too simplistic in trying to equate a good metacritic score to exceptional sales.

    Sales are a hell of a lot more complex than simply the meta critic scores. There are factors of target demographic, genre, marketing, game content etc. For example space marines and macho soldiers may sell more games than adventure type blokes – but that doesn’t mean all games should have macho space marines as the main character.

    If you look at the genre U2 is in – action adventure closer to the Tomb Raider series, then achieving global sales of 1.3m in the first two weeks is pretty damn good. The point coming off from this is that there is a limited number of people who would ever consider buying this sort of game – regardless of how good it was. For example the best Knitting simulator in the world could be developed – but would you ever consider buying it?

    Final point – titles launching at this time of year – with a decent gap before Christmas. Tend to go down in sales but have a bump in the weeks before Christmas as they get bought as presents. So while you may not see anything obvious if you just use chart position as your reference that doesn’t mean sales are on a constant downward slope.

    #53 5 years ago
  54. No_PUDding

    Are you speaking to me Dr Damn? Becuase at no point was I referencing scores, outside of replying to you. I was most certainly not equating a high metacritic to high sales.

    #54 5 years ago
  55. G1GAHURTZ

    @ tea:

    Hehe… Nah, Gears used to be favourite game, and GRAW before that, so I don’t have a problem with TPS’s at all. I dunno, it’s difficult to explain. The main character just looks a bit… scrawny and feeble compared to a US Marine or a COG. I’d feel like I was playing as a banker or an office boy instead of a proper heroic kind of character. I realise that that will sound totally ‘meat-head’ to some people, but that’s just the way that I see it.

    However, after that glowing reference from you, I’ve just decided that I’ll definitely get it now, so I hope that you’re right!

    #55 5 years ago
  56. theevilaires

    PUD half the time I can barely understand what point you are trying to get across. Are you saying UC2 doesn’t live up to the hype. What hype was around it? I only knew it was goig to be good because I played the first one and Naughty Dog are great developers.

    Or are you saying G1GA is a fanboy that is just being headstrong and ignoring how great the game is because he wishes it was on xbox too?

    #56 5 years ago
  57. G1GAHURTZ

    I haven’t forgotten that you’re still the official Fanboy of the Year, btw PUD…

    #57 5 years ago
  58. G1GAHURTZ

    If U2 was on 360, I still wouldn’t have bought it yet. And that’s the honest truth.

    #58 5 years ago
  59. Blerk

    He’s got no chance of winning it this year. There’s a whole new level now.

    #59 5 years ago
  60. DrDamn

    @PUD
    No it was directed at G1GA. It’s him who thinks the two go hand in hand.

    #60 5 years ago
  61. theevilaires

    well that’s great G1GA. If I had to explain UC2 in one sentence it would be this. “A movie experience that you control” or “The best game movie hybrid ever created so far”

    and btw Gears was your favorite game? you’re kidding right? I hope you mean this generation so far. Oh well this week I’m starting the COD4 campaign for the first time ever since the release of the game (back in 2007 :P ) I hope it makes me want MW2 even more.

    #61 5 years ago
  62. No_PUDding

    I meant both of the things I said.

    Most big games have unjustifiable hype. And if you’re a fan of the ‘other system’, althoguh G1GA is way more objective now, which I appreciate, hearing ridiculous hype, that you aren’t a part of, leaves you skeptical.

    I had no desire to play Gears 2, and he didn’t have any desire to play Uncharted 2.

    I am no longer fanboy of the year though, am I G1GA, and I doubt you’re in the running this year. So lets speak as normal folk, right?

    #62 5 years ago
  63. G1GAHURTZ

    Interestingly enough I’m also going through it on PS3 again now that I’m without an internet connection for a while. (Did you get my message?)

    I’m sure you’ll enjoy it.

    #63 5 years ago
  64. Blerk

    BDH has it sewn up this year. It’d be really funny if the prize was a console game.

    #64 5 years ago
  65. Johnny Cullen

    That can be arranged, Blerk. :D

    #65 5 years ago
  66. No_PUDding

    @G1GA Yeah I wouldn’t have bought Gears 2 on PS3. It just doesn’t appeal to me. So I don’t actually understand why you will go and pick up Uncharted 2. Wait for it to be knocked down in price or something.

    @Blerk, well fuck you too, I made an effort this year! I am not gettign prizes for being a better commenter. Some might say, I am like Jesus.

    #66 5 years ago
  67. Tonka

    http://minimalistsupergroup.tumblr.com/

    #67 5 years ago
  68. No_PUDding

    Poor BDH, he worked really hard for that prize.

    But I am sure there was a reason I got some 360 games. xD

    #68 5 years ago
  69. DrDamn

    @TEA
    “A movie experience that you control” or “The best game movie hybrid ever created so far”

    That’s actually a good and bad description. Good because it’s correct from my perspective. Bad because of what that sort of description conjures from previous experiences. Its really impressive how it manages to be so cinematic whilst leaving the control of the game and how things pan out up to the actions of the player. No other game I’ve played comes close. My wife made a similar comment whilst I was playing the moving train level – “this is like a really good action movie” – except I was fully in control with options about how I tackled what was put before me.

    I loved CoD4 for the MP aspects. The SP campaign I completed but didn’t enjoy any where near as much. The re-spawning enemy mechanic spoils the game for me personally. They did mention they were looking at this aspect a little while ago for MW2 – but not sure what they have done.

    #69 5 years ago
  70. theevilaires

    yea I got that message G1GA (on live) did those 1080p wallpapers make it to you ok? (on PSN)

    #70 5 years ago
  71. G1GAHURTZ

    Yeah, I replied saying thanks… They were pretty amazing! Cheers fella!

    #71 5 years ago
  72. The Hindle

    The whole concept of a fanboy is stupid, i mean do you honestly think Sony, Nintendo or Microsoft actyally give a dam about you personally.

    They are all in this business to make money its as simple as that. Sonys games eac do 1m or over every time. Microsoft rely on Gears and Halo to sell its all they have.

    Every game Nintendo do sells like 10m each, so all companies do well

    #72 5 years ago
  73. No_PUDding

    You can’t understand the concept of fanboys? That would be fine if there weren’t millions to study, but stop being ignorant and ask questions.

    For me it was easy, I just understood why I was like it. If you feel you are impartial enoguh that you need specimens for your education on fanboys, ask others.

    I am still not impartial enoguh for that though.

    #73 5 years ago